DLX Shapes

[BeachChicken]

You def have but didn't know. Sci Fi, Passport, Theories, Alltimers- basically any non DLX/Primitive/April brand uses these shapes as do tons of shops. If it is:

8.25x14.25
8.38x14.38
8.5x14.5

its likely the generic. Sorta full, but not too full, medium length kicks, nothing too polarizing.

[Mbrimson88]

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I guess the easiest way to check dimensions and shapes is have a look at Skate samples site and go off those ones.

Eg, the 8.75 board on there has a long wheelbase and length, compared to DLX or especially the Black Label board, although not by a lot, it is still different.

Having had some of the Sci Fi boards in my hand, they are the generic shapes, same as the BL 8.5 board, but the 8.75 is different.

I didn't compare or check the 8.25, but the 8.38 board (Omar special shape) is definitely different - BL board is way longer when compared the two which I have both had.


More than anything it is just the boards I have had or currently have, more so in 8.38, 8.5 and 8.75 sizes, but I have also had a number of 8.25 boards come through my hands, with some being different here and there in dimensions and shape, although nothing I recall stands out particularly that any were this or that, only that the DLX 8.25 of which I have lots and skate some has always been bigger than almost every other 8.25 board on the market, again not by much, but when lined up standing on their side, the DLX 8.25 stands up a mm or sometimes two above the others in the side rail.

[Lou Strux]

I pray to Saint Jimothy every day for an 8.5/14.5 twin pressed on the easy rider mold.
My day will eventually come; all devoted faithful receive their just due in due time.

[WelcomeToHell]

I pray to Saint Jimothy every day for an 8.5/14.5 twin pressed on the easy rider mold.
My day will eventually come; all devoted faithful receive their just due in due time.

Peace be with you.

[Lou Strux]

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I pray to Saint Jimothy every day for an 8.5/14.5 twin pressed on the easy rider mold.
My day will eventually come; all devoted faithful receive their just due in due time.

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Peace be with you.

…and also with you.

[Dan Gerous]

I wanted to try the Ishod 8.25 TT Easy Rider but... I looked at three of them and they were all warped a little, as if the boards were twisted in their lengths, rails not parallel when viewed from the side or the two tails not angled in the same axis.

Anybody seen this? Weird as it doesn't seem like a bad batch or even less a single problematic one, they were from 2 different shops and from 2 drops (one cathedral and two with the smoking tire graphic).

I wonder if they were actually warped or if the drilling+shape were not perfectly aligned relative to the mold...

[WelcomeToHell]

I wanted to try the Ishod 8.25 TT Easy Rider but... I looked at three of them and they were all warped a little, as if the boards were twisted in their lengths, rails not parallel when viewed from the side or the two tails not angled in the same axis.

Anybody seen this? Weird as it doesn't seem like a bad batch or even less a single problematic one, they were from 2 different shops and from 2 drops (one cathedral and two with the smoking tire graphic).

I wonder if they were actually warped or if the drilling+shape were not perfectly aligned relative to the mold...

I actually bought the cathedral version of this board today and I don't see a twist at all. That is wild, though, that you saw three from 2 different shops.

[Dan Gerous]

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I wanted to try the Ishod 8.25 TT Easy Rider but... I looked at three of them and they were all warped a little, as if the boards were twisted in their lengths, rails not parallel when viewed from the side or the two tails not angled in the same axis.

Anybody seen this? Weird as it doesn't seem like a bad batch or even less a single problematic one, they were from 2 different shops and from 2 drops (one cathedral and two with the smoking tire graphic).

I wonder if they were actually warped or if the drilling+shape were not perfectly aligned relative to the mold...

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I actually bought the cathedral version of this board today and I don't see a twist at all. That is wild, though, that you saw three from 2 different shops.

Maybe they just succombed to the canadian winter here!

[WelcomeToHell]

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I wanted to try the Ishod 8.25 TT Easy Rider but... I looked at three of them and they were all warped a little, as if the boards were twisted in their lengths, rails not parallel when viewed from the side or the two tails not angled in the same axis.

Anybody seen this? Weird as it doesn't seem like a bad batch or even less a single problematic one, they were from 2 different shops and from 2 drops (one cathedral and two with the smoking tire graphic).

I wonder if they were actually warped or if the drilling+shape were not perfectly aligned relative to the mold...

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I actually bought the cathedral version of this board today and I don't see a twist at all. That is wild, though, that you saw three from 2 different shops.

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Maybe they just succombed to the canadian winter here!

Took themselves out of circulation. 🫠

[swongolianbbq]

The DLX 8.25 standard shape is (or at the very least was at one point) the most popular board in the whole DLX range.

With so many more shape options out there now, that might have changed some, but I do think I still know more people on that shape than any other, maybe the one exception being the "blue eagle" 8.5 shape, which is more like 8.3 - listed as 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb anyway. 

Anything around 8.25 to 8.3 or just under 8.5 seems to be the norm right now, that and the 8.25 truck variant being the optimal size, with 8.5 trucks being a very close second, eg Thunder 148 - 149, Indy 144 -149, Venture 5.6 - 5.8 and more.

I still get a bit of a mix of wheel sizes but 52 mm to 54 mm also seems within the most common size range too.


Trying out a number of other DLX shapes (and different brands) in recent months, it is interesting to see and feel the differences, but I do think I post in this thread more than others for a reason - the DLX shapes just work so well for me too.

I think the only boards I don't have set up from the whole DLX range are the Tru Fit and Easy Rider shapes right now, but I sure have had / still do have a lot of boards of varying shapes and sizes for people to try if or when they ask for them.

I did a lot of research and came to the same conclusion pretty much

8.375 seemed to be the average for decks/trucks and 54 for wheels.

I love blue eagles especially the easy rider ones

Been riding the mellow baker 8.25 a lot too

[scab]

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Today I found out I was dead wrong about that and ordered one. I am sooo fucking psyched to set that one up.

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I hope I didn't let you down! Please let me know what you think.

IMHO, the the Label standard cuts are the same DLX 8.25/14.38 shape, but in;

8.25/14.25
8.5/14.5
8.75/14.5

So, if you like the DLX 8.25/14.38 shape, but want to try some different dimensions...

That's exactly it. I think the proportions of the DLX 8.25 are pretty much perfect for a standard popsicle, it's just a tad small overall for me due to my general ogreishness. The DLX 8.75, on the other hand, is a smidge too long both in wheelbase and overall length. If it were just a little shorter it'd be perfect... Which the Label deck is. So I'd be truly shocked if I didn't like it.

[BeachChicken]

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Today I found out I was dead wrong about that and ordered one. I am sooo fucking psyched to set that one up.

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I hope I didn't let you down! Please let me know what you think.

IMHO, the the Label standard cuts are the same DLX 8.25/14.38 shape, but in;

8.25/14.25
8.5/14.5
8.75/14.5

So, if you like the DLX 8.25/14.38 shape, but want to try some different dimensions...

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That's exactly it. I think the proportions of the DLX 8.25 are pretty much perfect for a standard popsicle, it's just a tad small overall for me due to my general ogreishness. The DLX 8.75, on the other hand, is a smidge too long both in wheelbase and overall length. If it were just a little shorter it'd be perfect... Which the Label deck is. So I'd be truly shocked if I didn't like it.

Try the BBS generic 8.38 or 8.5. The 8.38 has more flat before the kicks but is similar to the DLX 8.25 with a hair longer tail. The 8.5 is the 8.38 with a 14.5 and tiny bit longer nose but still decent length.

[Too Frank To Fred]

All I want is Huffer slick and a Huffer in that new fancy thinner (possibly carbon ply) construction.

[Sedition]

You def have but didn't know. Sci Fi, Passport, Theories, Alltimers- basically any non DLX/Primitive/April brand...

Who looks at those decks?!? DLX only! I am half-joking, half-not. When I am at a shop, all I am really looking for is a IV stamped DLX 8.25/14.38.

[Sedition]

I guess the easiest way to check dimensions and shapes is have a look at Skate samples site and go off those ones...

^ Yup.

Skate Samples does not offer an 8.75/14.5, and Black Label does.

Skate Samples says their 8.25/14.25 is 32" with a 6.8" nose. BL says their 8.25 is 32.12 (and it has a 7" nose, if I recall).

Skate Sample's 8.38 is much shorter than BL's 8.38.

The 8.5/14.5 Skate Samples and BL look to be the same.

BL also has a 9.0 with a 14.5wb. Skate Samples does not.

 

[Sedition]

That's exactly it. I think the proportions of the DLX 8.25 are pretty much perfect for a standard popsicle, it's just a tad small overall for me due to my general ogreishness. The DLX 8.75, on the other hand, is a smidge too long both in wheelbase and overall length. If it were just a little shorter it'd be perfect... Which the Label deck is. So I'd be truly shocked if I didn't like it.

We are the on the same wave length. Love my 8.25, but some times, some times, it just feels too small (esp if I get on bigger transition, which isn't all that often). I've had DLX 8.75s around for awhile, but they were always were a tad too long for me. My stance started to feel a bit unstable if I was doing something that required feet on nose and tail at same time (e.g. "nollie" tail slide on a curb). So, then I started looking for an 8.5/14.5, thinking that might be a magic bullet. I tired a whole mess load of them (Baker, Zero, DLX 8.38, Black Label, etc.), but they just didn't jive with me for some reason. I don't know if it's something inherent with the ratios of an 8.5/14.5, but  proportionally they all looked/felt weird to me. They all also seemed to be more clunky than my 8.25, but not have any of the stability of the 8.75...it's like they were the were the worst of both and the best of neither. But then, then, I found the BLKLBL 8.75/14.5 it was full-on party time...perfect "big" board when I want to bump it up a notch. 

[toque]

anybody skated a There Chandler Burton board in the "Unity 85" shape? looking for a something comparable to the cream eagle but slightly thinner and the dimensions sound about perfect

"8.5 * 32.6 € WB 14.69 (UNITY 85)"

[Mbrimson88]

anybody skated a There Chandler Burton board in the "Unity 85" shape? looking for a something comparable to the cream eagle but slightly thinner and the dimensions sound about perfect

"8.5 * 32.6 € WB 14.69 (UNITY 85)"

I haven't skated that exact board, but I have had a number of the older long 8.5 boards, which are 8.5 x 32.5 with a 14.75 wb, which still have good kicks, so that board would work well for what you want.


I could look up the exact measurements, but the kicks are not quite as long as the cream eagle 8.62 board.

[Lou Strux]

anybody skated a There Chandler Burton board in the "Unity 85" shape? looking for a something comparable to the cream eagle but slightly thinner and the dimensions sound about perfect

"8.5 * 32.6 € WB 14.69 (UNITY 85)"

I rode that shape: absolutely loved it too. 
If you like a little more "leg room" between your trucks, its a gem.
Also rode the other Chandler shape I see on their site, the 8.5/14.5 & really liked that one too.
Slightly different tip profiles, but the width/WB combo is generally what I'm after when spec'ing decks and both of those ticked off all the right boxes for me.
That's my 2 cents decenzo worth.

[toque]

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anybody skated a There Chandler Burton board in the "Unity 85" shape? looking for a something comparable to the cream eagle but slightly thinner and the dimensions sound about perfect

"8.5 * 32.6 € WB 14.69 (UNITY 85)"

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I haven't skated that exact board, but I have had a number of the older long 8.5 boards, which are 8.5 x 32.5 with a 14.75 wb, which still have good kicks, so that board would work well for what you want.


I could look up the exact measurements, but the kicks are not quite as long as the cream eagle 8.62 board.

Nice yeah Real was making Tanner Van Vark boards in that shape for a while and I was grabbing them here and there. Was kind of wondering if that "Unity 85" shape was the same but they just wanted to throw a ".69" in there for fun. Going to grab one in the next week or two to try.

[Mbrimson88]

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anybody skated a There Chandler Burton board in the "Unity 85" shape? looking for a something comparable to the cream eagle but slightly thinner and the dimensions sound about perfect

"8.5 * 32.6 € WB 14.69 (UNITY 85)"

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I haven't skated that exact board, but I have had a number of the older long 8.5 boards, which are 8.5 x 32.5 with a 14.75 wb, which still have good kicks, so that board would work well for what you want.


I could look up the exact measurements, but the kicks are not quite as long as the cream eagle 8.62 board.

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Nice yeah Real was making Tanner Van Vark boards in that shape for a while and I was grabbing them here and there. Was kind of wondering if that "Unity 85" shape was the same but they just wanted to throw a ".69" in there for fun. Going to grab one in the next week or two to try.

Ha yeah, could be there.  Doing the conversion it is just over 1 mm between 14.69 and 14.75 so it really would be pretty close.

I thought I had looked up dimensions of that board before and did have nose and tail lengths too, but I cannot find it now.

[Fasttimes]

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anybody skated a There Chandler Burton board in the "Unity 85" shape? looking for a something comparable to the cream eagle but slightly thinner and the dimensions sound about perfect

"8.5 * 32.6 € WB 14.69 (UNITY 85)"

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I haven't skated that exact board, but I have had a number of the older long 8.5 boards, which are 8.5 x 32.5 with a 14.75 wb, which still have good kicks, so that board would work well for what you want.


I could look up the exact measurements, but the kicks are not quite as long as the cream eagle 8.62 board.

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Nice yeah Real was making Tanner Van Vark boards in that shape for a while and I was grabbing them here and there. Was kind of wondering if that "Unity 85" shape was the same but they just wanted to throw a ".69" in there for fun. Going to grab one in the next week or two to try.

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Ha yeah, could be there.  Doing the conversion it is just over 1 mm between 14.69 and 14.75 so it really would be pretty close.

I thought I had looked up dimensions of that board before and did have nose and tail lengths too, but I cannot find it now.

Can you really tell the difference when you stand on the board or is the measurement device throwing you off. Maybe throw away the tape measure, and go skate? Let's say your 150 lbs, 5' 8", that 1/16th of an inch is gonna to throw you off? you are the dude that 3.6g in the bag and calls it 2.5g, just go skate.

[Mbrimson88]

Can you really tell the difference when you stand on the board or is the measurement device throwing you off. Maybe throw away the tape measure, and go skate? Let's say your 150 lbs, 5' 8", that 1/16th of an inch is gonna to throw you off? you are the dude that 3.6g in the bag and calls it 2.5g, just go skate.

The point I thought I was making was that those two boards would feel almost the same, if not exactly the same, so there should really be very little in it going from the Volcanic board to the Chandler board.  As to anything else re size, weight, or whatever else, I couldn't really care about weight of my own skateboard, but I do have to deal with a lot of people who do care about the smallest details in everything, so when they are my customer base, I do try to help them when I can.

Thanks for your help though, because I should have made it clearer.

Yes we should just go skate more, but sometimes we can't have it all. 

[Fifty8mm]

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Can you really tell the difference when you stand on the board or is the measurement device throwing you off. Maybe throw away the tape measure, and go skate? Let's say your 150 lbs, 5' 8", that 1/16th of an inch is gonna to throw you off? you are the dude that 3.6g in the bag and calls it 2.5g, just go skate.

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The point I thought I was making was that those two boards would feel almost the same, if not exactly the same, so there should really be very little in it going from the Volcanic board to the Chandler board.  As to anything else re size, weight, or whatever else, I couldn't really care about weight of my own skateboard, but I do have to deal with a lot of people who do care about the smallest details in everything, so when they are my customer base, I do try to help them when I can.

Thanks for your help though, because I should have made it clearer.

Yes we should just go skate more, but sometimes we can't have it all. 

Sometimes insignificant amount is to differentiate shapes. I forgot what brans do this. But I've seen a 8.06 and a 8 be different concaves and kick angle but everything else was the same. If i cant recall whish woodshop or company did/does that.

[WelcomeToHell]

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anybody skated a There Chandler Burton board in the "Unity 85" shape? looking for a something comparable to the cream eagle but slightly thinner and the dimensions sound about perfect

"8.5 * 32.6 € WB 14.69 (UNITY 85)"

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I haven't skated that exact board, but I have had a number of the older long 8.5 boards, which are 8.5 x 32.5 with a 14.75 wb, which still have good kicks, so that board would work well for what you want.


I could look up the exact measurements, but the kicks are not quite as long as the cream eagle 8.62 board.

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Nice yeah Real was making Tanner Van Vark boards in that shape for a while and I was grabbing them here and there. Was kind of wondering if that "Unity 85" shape was the same but they just wanted to throw a ".69" in there for fun. Going to grab one in the next week or two to try.

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Ha yeah, could be there.  Doing the conversion it is just over 1 mm between 14.69 and 14.75 so it really would be pretty close.

I thought I had looked up dimensions of that board before and did have nose and tail lengths too, but I cannot find it now.

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Can you really tell the difference when you stand on the board or is the measurement device throwing you off. Maybe throw away the tape measure, and go skate? Let's say your 150 lbs, 5' 8", that 1/16th of an inch is gonna to throw you off? you are the dude that 3.6g in the bag and calls it 2.5g, just go skate.

Just go skate, he says, while posting on a gear forum.


*classic*

[Mbrimson88]

Sometimes insignificant amount is to differentiate shapes. I forgot what brans do this. But I've seen a 8.06 and a 8 be different concaves and kick angle but everything else was the same. If i cant recall whish woodshop or company did/does that.

I had not known for a long time that 8.06 is actually 8 and 1/16th but someone told me a while back (probably on here) so that always gets me now, as I can't help but remember it.

Funny that as I check through catalogs the only 8.0 DLX board I can find is an Ishod twin, every other 8ish board is listed as 8.06 from the original shape, to Full SE, Tru Fit and others.  Is there really any difference between the DLX 8.06 and other 8.0 brands - not that I can recall, or as far as I remember they all pretty much line up the same, but some of the other BBS boards have shorter 14.25 wb on them in the 8.0 size, or different shapes in the kicks for sure, the DLX 8.06 being a little more pointy, whereas other BBS boards listed as 8.0 are not quite as pointy, at least from a few I have on hand to check.

There were definitely older versions of some brands that had very different shapes in their 8.0 sized boards, but that doesn't really matter when they are not current or still being made at all.  The funny thing is I don't often deal in boards under about 8.25 now anyway, mostly 8.3 through 8.5 up to 8.75 and bigger more than 8 or anything down around that size.


The DLX 8.06 Full SE is a stubby looking little board, now I come to look at one I had from a while back too, with a 14.0 wb that just worked so well on it, when it was still set up for someone I know.


* It is after midnight here and I am just winding down from a crazy long day (Christmas eve) so right this minute I am not at all thinking about actually going skateboarding, but I am still too wide awake to go to bed just yet, so here I am, sitting on Slap for a bit.  I think it is a worthwhile use of my time anyway.

[JM]

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Sometimes insignificant amount is to differentiate shapes. I forgot what brans do this. But I've seen a 8.06 and a 8 be different concaves and kick angle but everything else was the same. If i cant recall whish woodshop or company did/does that.

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I had not known for a long time that 8.06 is actually 8 and 1/16th but someone told me a while back (probably on here) so that always gets me now, as I can't help but remember it.

Funny that as I check through catalogs the only 8.0 DLX board I can find is an Ishod twin, every other 8ish board is listed as 8.06 from the original shape, to Full SE, Tru Fit and others.  Is there really any difference between the DLX 8.06 and other 8.0 brands - not that I can recall, or as far as I remember they all pretty much line up the same, but some of the other BBS boards have shorter 14.25 wb on them in the 8.0 size, or different shapes in the kicks for sure, the DLX 8.06 being a little more pointy, whereas other BBS boards listed as 8.0 are not quite as pointy, at least from a few I have on hand to check.

There were definitely older versions of some brands that had very different shapes in their 8.0 sized boards, but that doesn't really matter when they are not current or still being made at all.  The funny thing is I don't often deal in boards under about 8.25 now anyway, mostly 8.3 through 8.5 up to 8.75 and bigger more than 8 or anything down around that size.


The DLX 8.06 Full SE is a stubby looking little board, now I come to look at one I had from a while back too, with a 14.0 wb that just worked so well on it, when it was still set up for someone I know.


* It is after midnight here and I am just winding down from a crazy long day (Christmas eve) so right this minute I am not at all thinking about actually going skateboarding, but I am still too wide awake to go to bed just yet, so here I am, sitting on Slap for a bit.  I think it is a worthwhile use of my time anyway.

Of course it’s worthwhile.

Merry Christmas

[j....soy.....]

I'm late to the party but was surprised on how many boards run below 14" wheelbase.  It's temping because I skate ventures but seems pretty wild.   

[Mbrimson88]

I'm late to the party but was surprised on how many boards run below 14" wheelbase.  It's temping because I skate ventures but seems pretty wild.

I think overall there are a lot more people who realise that they skate better on shorter boards for whatever reason, least of all they are smaller, shorter legs, regardless of male or female, but rather than having to try to cut down or redrill wheelbases, DLX really does try to cater to everyone there, even if it might seem like there are now too many shapes.

Then with things like the V8 Koston Ventures, which I am guessing came about because there were not enough shorter wb boards, at least there are options to turn a lot more boards in to shorter wb versions, but in doing so, sometimes the kicks are a bit long, or the whole length of board is too long for some people.

Shorter wb boards are definitely easier to spin, when I get on some of my own boards I have brought the back truck in on, compared to others which are still as per spec on the longer 14.5 wb.

[Sedition]

I think overall there are a lot more people who realise that they skate better on shorter boards for whatever reason, least of all they are smaller, shorter legs...

Man, I hate short WB decks.

Power: They feel like trying to swing a baseball bat, hockey stick, or golf club while being really choked-up on the handle--or like trying to run with resistance bands around your legs that prevent you from going into a full-on sprint.

Comfort: They make my stance feel way, way, way too cramped. Like trying to sit on airplane seat that is too narrow, or walk up stairs that have no depth and/or are too close together.

Stability: A cramped-stance makes me feel way less stable, like trying to stand with your feet together on a moving train/bus/subway.

Flick: Yes, they spin faster, but too twitchy / sensitive to me, and become less controllable. Feels like riding a Penny board.

All that said, I firmly believe that everyone has their "magic WB zone," and if you are shorter, or have shorter legs, a longer WB is going to be a nightmare for the all the opposite reasons stated above. So, I am glad those people have deck options that work them. However, it would be nice if DLX had more 14.38/14.5 WB options to round things out a bit (and not so many 14.25, and smaller) .

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