DLX Shapes

[nopopnostyle]

The 8.5 feels wider in the front and narrower in the back than the 8.4 as mentioned above.
Also the tail feels shorter and pointier on the 8.5. It starts to taper in the middle.
The 8.5 reminds me of a toned down OG Baker shape.
The 8.4 feels like a perfectly balanced popsicle to me.
My favorite DLX-Shape and should be an Eagle like the 8.28.

[Sedition]

Yesterday I actually got to see an 8.4 next to an 8.5. Wow, all I can say is those two decks are prolly the most-similar two products DLX produces.

[rikki]

Yesterday I actually got see an 8.4 next to an 8.5. Wow, all I can say is tho decks are prolly the most-similar two products DLX produces.

All this got me kinda hyped to try a DLX 8.4 again, this time with Venture 5.8s.

[nopopnostyle]

All this got me kinda hyped to try a DLX 8.4 again, this time with Venture 5.8s.

I highly recommend it.

[Mbrimson88]

Yesterday I actually got to see an 8.4 next to an 8.5. Wow, all I can say is those two decks are prolly the most-similar two products DLX produces.

And the funniest thing is the DLX 8.25 normal shape is so close to both of those, but is actually longer in wb, not by much, but it is.

Comparing all three, or even a couple of other similar boards, there is so little between all of them.

The thing is that is pretty much the most popular width between 8.25 and almost 8.5 - not going to say 8.38 as the usual 8.38 board I ride is longer and wider than those others, but that's ok.  At least there are enough options to keep most people happy.

[rikki]

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Yesterday I actually got to see an 8.4 next to an 8.5. Wow, all I can say is those two decks are prolly the most-similar two products DLX produces.

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And the funniest thing is the DLX 8.25 normal shape is so close to both of those, but is actually longer in wb, not by much, but it is.

Comparing all three, or even a couple of other similar boards, there is so little between all of them.

The thing is that is pretty much the most popular width between 8.25 and almost 8.5 - not going to say 8.38 as the usual 8.38 board I ride is longer and wider than those others, but that's ok.  At least there are enough options to keep most people happy.

The China-made DLX 8.25's are actually truly 8.25 in width, as opposed to the BBS-made 8.25 basically being a 8.38.

[Mbrimson88]

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Yesterday I actually got to see an 8.4 next to an 8.5. Wow, all I can say is those two decks are prolly the most-similar two products DLX produces.

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And the funniest thing is the DLX 8.25 normal shape is so close to both of those, but is actually longer in wb, not by much, but it is.

Comparing all three, or even a couple of other similar boards, there is so little between all of them.

The thing is that is pretty much the most popular width between 8.25 and almost 8.5 - not going to say 8.38 as the usual 8.38 board I ride is longer and wider than those others, but that's ok.  At least there are enough options to keep most people happy.

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The China-made DLX 8.25's are actually truly 8.25 in width, as opposed to the BBS-made 8.25 basically being a 8.38.

That is interesting to hear.  The normal 8.38 I have a lot of is also not anywhere near as wide in the China made version too, actually about the same as the BBS 8.25 when comparing them last week.

I got one, but didn't set it up as it felt too narrow for what I wanted, but the guy who has it loves it way more than the BBS versions I ride, so it is a funny thing.  There are only a few regular boards I have bought from the China versions, mainly because I like the BBS ones more, but also because I think I have too many boards, even counting shop stock, not just what I have set aside for myself.

The thing is I keep thinking I should get at least one of each China made shape to compare, but then they will most likely just sit there, as I have with the BBS versions, having at least one of everything just to go back and look at, skate again or compare to others.

[Mbrimson88]

* To clarify, with the same boards from the two places, I have noticed this:

The BBS 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb (wider) is about the same as the China 8.38 x 32.2 with 14.5 wb.

The 8.5 x 32.18 with 14.38 wb is the same for both.

The 8.62 Cardiel shape is 14.5 wb on the China one.

The 8.75 x 32.6 with 14.62 wb is a little wider in the BBS version than the China one.

The 9 x 33 with 15 wb is also the same for both, but the mold / concave from the China boards are shorter.

The 10 Horse Pill is the same overall shape, but different molds and concave.


I have a few more but they are the main ones to note, or that I can recall right now.

[rikki]

the guy who has it loves it way more than the BBS versions

This is exactly how I feel about the China-made 8.25 decks. They retain their pop longer and are more durable than the BBS ones. And yes, I really like the stiffness, which is not excessive contrary to what some people say.

[Mbrimson88]

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the guy who has it loves it way more than the BBS versions

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This is exactly how I feel about the China-made 8.25 decks. They retain their pop longer and are more durable than the BBS ones. And yes, I really like the stiffness, which is not excessive contrary to what some people say.

For sure!

It is something I have come to get used to a bit more now, the epoxy construction of the China made boards means they have different properties to the BBS made boards, which took some getting used to, but I have some of each now.

I guess I am old and set in my ways and how a board feels right from the first roll is often the make or break for me in terms of whether or not I keep it or pass it on to someone else.  Too steep or too stiff and I am just going to be fighting it the whole time I have it, going by my history of various boards, even in the right size and shape and feel I have had before.

The simple fact that we are getting over 90% DLX China made boards now here in Australia means that anyone who does prefer BBS either has to stock up on whatever is left or find other brands for the same wood, or just deal with the fact that boards are going to feel different now.  Not the end of the world, but I know some others are not as open minded.

[nopopnostyle]

The simple fact that we are getting over 90% DLX China made boards now here in Australia means that anyone who does prefer BBS either has to stock up on whatever is left or find other brands for the same wood, or just deal with the fact that boards are going to feel different now.  Not the end of the world, but I know some others are not as open minded.

As one of the people who openly proclaimed not liking them,
I have to correct myself and agree with you on the above points.

A couple weeks ago I talked myself into giving the China-Wood another go and must say I’m liking it at the moment.
Only four sessions deep I was planning on writing something more in depth in the dedicated thread, but since the topic arose, I wanted to be fair and correct myself.
Guess I’m a little bit old and set in my ways also.

[Too Frank To Fred]

The 8.62 Cardiel shape is 14.5 wb on the China one.

Very interesting. that's a funny shape as the WB is often listed differently even on the BBS shapes.

I am yet to see a Chinese DLX deck....

[Tale Crab]

Has anyone measured the tail and nose angle on one of the 8.25/14.375 Easy Riders?
I'm tempted to try one out but would like to know how these compare to the normal 8.25 or 8.38 models. I remember reading that they might even be steeper than on some of the regular offerings.

[Mbrimson88]

Has anyone measured the tail and nose angle on one of the 8.25/14.375 Easy Riders?
I'm tempted to try one out but would like to know how these compare to the normal 8.25 or 8.38 models. I remember reading that they might even be steeper than on some of the regular offerings.

I had seen and stood on a few, but not actually measured any to give a set of figures, as I have done with some of my other boards.

In general though, they are comparable to all the other boards, press I through to IV having some degree of difference there, but the main thing to note is the twin press is used so the nose and tail are the same, not for example the usual presses, which shows 22 nose and 21 tail on one of my usual IV stamped 8.38 boards.


https://www.dlxsf.com/easyriders/


The info page has the goods there, including a nice little pic of both nose and tail, being the same on the sample board, at 21.4 degrees.

They are still the same shapes as the usual 8.25 and 8.38, so approx 7 nose and 6.5 tail, not twin length kicks, just to make that clear.  I recall someone else was wanting the twin easy rider, which only comes in the Ishod model.

[Bongwater Mojito]

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I have a few of that shape, although not the specific one with wheel wells, but they are true to the 8.5 width, not like the blue eagle 8.5 x 31.75 with 14.25 wb, which is more like 8.3 and tapers significantly.

The bigger 8.5 x 32.18 with 14.38 wb is straight or at least doesn't taper a lot, stays nice and wide from the front bolts to the back, has slightly longer more pointy kicks and I think is a pretty good board to ride.

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So there are (at least) two BBS 8.5 shapes, shorter and longer, shorter being also not true to dims? I am riding now the longer, a Polar. Apparently many DLX pro boards seem to be the shorter version - this is good info, as I'm loving the Polar 8.5 with Ace 60s I just set up. With "more like 8.3" there would be too much hotrod I think.

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There are actually a few more than that, but going back to the Classic shapes, not all the Full, Full SE, Tru Fit, Short and how ever many other options, there are definitely the main ones that are being used for regular board shapes, maybe the last decade or longer.


Blue eagle (shorter 8.5) which is 8.5 (8.3) x 31.75 with 14.25 wb

DLX other / no name given 8.5 which is 8.5 x 32.18 with 14.38 wb


There is also an older one with 14.75 wb that has been used by a few other brands too.


To note, the Polar 8.5 is a different shape again, as I have one to compare.  The Polar is 8.5 at the widest point but tapers down to almost 8.25 by the tail, this one also has a 14.375 wb (or 14.38 depending on who you ask) with the Polar having a fairly broad big round nose, then a fairly small / tapered but still longish looking tail.

I went to check my Polar with a tape measure, and you're right @Mbrimson88 - the tail indeed tapers to almost 8.375. Funny that it does not bother me with 8.75 axles at all. Maybe I'll just stick with Polars then, seems to work well for me until next wave of gear madness.

[Mbrimson88]

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I have a few of that shape, although not the specific one with wheel wells, but they are true to the 8.5 width, not like the blue eagle 8.5 x 31.75 with 14.25 wb, which is more like 8.3 and tapers significantly.

The bigger 8.5 x 32.18 with 14.38 wb is straight or at least doesn't taper a lot, stays nice and wide from the front bolts to the back, has slightly longer more pointy kicks and I think is a pretty good board to ride.

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So there are (at least) two BBS 8.5 shapes, shorter and longer, shorter being also not true to dims? I am riding now the longer, a Polar. Apparently many DLX pro boards seem to be the shorter version - this is good info, as I'm loving the Polar 8.5 with Ace 60s I just set up. With "more like 8.3" there would be too much hotrod I think.

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There are actually a few more than that, but going back to the Classic shapes, not all the Full, Full SE, Tru Fit, Short and how ever many other options, there are definitely the main ones that are being used for regular board shapes, maybe the last decade or longer.


Blue eagle (shorter 8.5) which is 8.5 (8.3) x 31.75 with 14.25 wb

DLX other / no name given 8.5 which is 8.5 x 32.18 with 14.38 wb


There is also an older one with 14.75 wb that has been used by a few other brands too.


To note, the Polar 8.5 is a different shape again, as I have one to compare.  The Polar is 8.5 at the widest point but tapers down to almost 8.25 by the tail, this one also has a 14.375 wb (or 14.38 depending on who you ask) with the Polar having a fairly broad big round nose, then a fairly small / tapered but still longish looking tail.

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I went to check my Polar with a tape measure, and you're right @Mbrimson88 - the tail indeed tapers to almost 8.375. Funny that it does not bother me with 8.75 axles at all. Maybe I'll just stick with Polars then, seems to work well for me until next wave of gear madness.

I went and got the two boards out to compare - Polar is definitely more beefy up the front end, huge wide nose going down to a smaller tail, whereas the Real board has a smaller sort of pointy nose, but then is very close through the shoulder and down to the tail, so there is not much between them, that's for sure.

At least there are options, so if you couldn't find a Polar board, there are those Real / Krooked / AH / DLX boards too.  They do come out in most brands, so if it is a shape you like, it is worth keeping an eye on the catalogs.

Right now there is a Real Huf deck, a Krooked Wilson "Link" deck, an AH Doobie "Catch of the day" deck, from the current catalogs all in that same shape.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

C'mon Jim, please...

[Fifty8mm]

C'mon Jim, please...

200 dollar board right here.

[kneebone]

C'mon Jim, please...

No DBX but 3 outta 4 ain’t bad https://www.escapistskateboarding.com/real-ishod-wair-cat-scratch-glitter-twin--61221988.html?id=101924363

[Too Frank To Fred]

C'mon Jim, please...

That's some funny shit...

with a T2 151 undercarriage and a Classic Full 55mm F4... Head explodes and soul reunites with the universe....

[BartHarleyJarvis]

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C'mon Jim, please...

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No DBX but 3 outta 4 ain’t bad https://www.escapistskateboarding.com/real-ishod-wair-cat-scratch-glitter-twin--61221988.html?id=101924363

That's the one I missed and am totally regretful about. It won't let me add to cart either, I haven't been able to find it in stock anywhere

[Mbrimson88]

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Really only posting this for the specs and info on it than anything else, but I wonder what happened - not enough interest?


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


Width (in):   8.75
Length (in):   32.61
Wheelbase (in):   14.68
Nose Length (in):   6.8
Tail Length (in):   6.8

[TheCrimsonShroud]

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Really only posting this for the specs and info on it than anything else, but I wonder what happened - not enough interest?


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck

Shit, I’d buy that. I love twin tails

[scab]

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Really only posting this for the specs and info on it than anything else, but I wonder what happened - not enough interest?


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck


Width (in):   8.75
Length (in):   32.61
Wheelbase (in):   14.68
Nose Length (in):   6.8
Tail Length (in):   6.8

I managed to get my hands on one of those and it was easily the best deck I skated in '24. The only downside for me was that it was slightly too long both in overall length and wheelbase. I feel like I'd love it even more today because I could pair it with 6.1 V8s now. As to why it never came back... I'd also REALLY like to know.

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Really only posting this for the specs and info on it than anything else, but I wonder what happened - not enough interest?


https://www.tactics.com/real/ishod-cat-scratch-875-twin-tail-shape-skateboard-deck

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Shit, I’d buy that. I love twin tails

@TheCrimsonShroud
https://www.escapistskateboarding.com/real-ishod-wair-cat-scratch-glitter-twin--61221988.html?id=101924363

[Mbrimson88]

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I got one of the longer wb There Chandler Burton boards just to see what it was like.  It is a I stamp so a bit steep, but I had planned to run the V8 type truck on it anyway to bring in the back truck to add length to the tail and make it a more comfortable wb anyway.

Seems pretty good standing on it with the trucks on it, but haven't gone out for a roll anywhere yet.


Comparable board here, although they don't have the wb listed correctly, or it could be a different board, as the one I have is the Nightgarden graphic:


https://www.tactics.com/there/chandler-vivi-85-skateboard-deck

Size   8.5
Width (in):   8.5
Length (in):   32.5
Wheelbase (in):   14.5 (14.69)
Nose Length (in):   7.0
Tail Length (in):   6.625

[RichardBarkley]

Hey guys do you think these are both the same shape? I know the dims are slightly different but they are both Easy Rider 8.25. The reason I ask is I am riding the Krooked Eyes right now and truly love it. I want to get it again but wouldnt mind a graphics change. In my experience sometimes they give these shapes different dims but often its just the same shape.

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/es/p/_p173484

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/es/p/_p176926

[Mbrimson88]

Hey guys do you think these are both the same shape? I know the dims are slightly different but they are both Easy Rider 8.25. The reason I ask is I am riding the Krooked Eyes right now and truly love it. I want to get it again but wouldnt mind a graphics change. In my experience sometimes they give these shapes different dims but often its just the same shape.

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/es/p/_p173484

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/es/p/_p176926

Yes they are both the Easy Rider mold on the regular DLX 8.25 shape, so they should be the same all up in every dimension.

In saying that a lot of shops do have some funny dimensions on the boards, but I also have seen slight discrepancies with half a dozen or more of the same board, but it is really only a hair or so here or there, nothing to really say there would be big differences.


Eg:

https://www.tactics.com/real/double-duty-cops-825-easy-rider-shape-skateboard-deck

https://www.tactics.com/krooked/team-eyes-825-easy-rider-skateboard-deck/green

This is the reverse, one slightly different than the other too.

As well as the wrong board pic in the double duty pair of boards.

[RichardBarkley]

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Hey guys do you think these are both the same shape? I know the dims are slightly different but they are both Easy Rider 8.25. The reason I ask is I am riding the Krooked Eyes right now and truly love it. I want to get it again but wouldnt mind a graphics change. In my experience sometimes they give these shapes different dims but often its just the same shape.

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/es/p/_p173484

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/es/p/_p176926

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Yes they are both the Easy Rider mold on the regular DLX 8.25 shape, so they should be the same all up in every dimension.

In saying that a lot of shops do have some funny dimensions on the boards, but I also have seen slight discrepancies with half a dozen or more of the same board, but it is really only a hair or so here or there, nothing to really say there would be big differences.


Eg:

https://www.tactics.com/real/double-duty-cops-825-easy-rider-shape-skateboard-deck

https://www.tactics.com/krooked/team-eyes-825-easy-rider-skateboard-deck/green

This is the reverse, one slightly different than the other too.

As well as the wrong board pic in the double duty pair of boards.

Gotcha. Great to hear! Cheers!

[devils acrobat]

Just in case someone from DLX reads this:

Dear DLX,

Could you please change the color of the bottom graphic of the real oval 8.12 x 31.3 x 14 shape from red to ANY other color? Love the shape but the red bottom makes it really hard to enjoy skating it, let alone watching clips...

Sincerly,
DA

Edit: added "real oval" before dims