Gear your contemplating buying?

[BeachChicken]

Thunder 148 or 149 on the DLX 8.5, which is more like 8.38 and shorter than many 8.5s. More width, won't be a boat.

[Jort250]

I need (want) to set up a back up board, mainly because I've been skating an 8.25 forever, and want to try an 8.5.

I'm a thunder trucks guy, hate Indy's, and don't love the look of ventures. I'm in between Lurpiv, or Aces. Those ranger green AF1 got me half mast. Can I buy another pair on Thunders, of course, but want to try something new.

Someone help me decide so I don't regret my purchase. Mostly just riding park and mini ramp. If I ride street, its a mani pad or ledge and I suck regardless

Can you wait for the T2s? Rumor is they’re supposed to come out in summer..

[rocklobster]

^
He's a comedian that skates with Spanky.

Can't skip lunch is gold too

[JoseCansnake0]

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I need (want) to set up a back up board, mainly because I've been skating an 8.25 forever, and want to try an 8.5.

I'm a thunder trucks guy, hate Indy's, and don't love the look of ventures. I'm in between Lurpiv, or Aces. Those ranger green AF1 got me half mast. Can I buy another pair on Thunders, of course, but want to try something new.

Someone help me decide so I don't regret my purchase. Mostly just riding park and mini ramp. If I ride street, its a mani pad or ledge and I suck regardless

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Can you wait for the T2s? Rumor is they’re supposed to come out in summer..

Yes, I've been reading about them and will wait.

The more I read as well about ace/lurpiv, I'm not a loosey goosey truck guy

[theloniousmonk]

I know you said you don’t like the look of venture, but they are worth a try. The forged plates put them at a similar height as your 144’s, and while they are similar to thunder the venture pop has to be experienced.

Also the new royals are pretty cool as well

[Carrolls Chesthairs]

I almost pulled the trigger last night on a Tim Robinson baker board.

[Richard Skidder]

Thinking about picking up some Swiss. Currently on 2 year old Super Reds that seem to be doing fine but are in need of their second cleaning.
Not sure if I want to pull the trigger yet or not.

[moonordie]

Thinking about picking up some Swiss. Currently on 2 year old Super Reds that seem to be doing fine but are in need of their second cleaning.
Not sure if I want to pull the trigger yet or not.

Do it and you'll never look back.

[DERBY]

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Thinking about picking up some Swiss. Currently on 2 year old Super Reds that seem to be doing fine but are in need of their second cleaning.
Not sure if I want to pull the trigger yet or not.

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Do it and you'll never look back.

second this! though i do prefer the quantum isotopes in terms of speed. i prefer some swiss or s6 for the durability and how they handle impact

[hayduke lives]

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Thinking about picking up some Swiss. Currently on 2 year old Super Reds that seem to be doing fine but are in need of their second cleaning.
Not sure if I want to pull the trigger yet or not.

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Do it and you'll never look back.

i got a hand me down set forever ago that were easily best bearings i had up to that point. i've run bones swiss since then. i've never killed one and they sustain speed better than anything in my experience.

[Mbrimson88]

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Thinking about picking up some Swiss. Currently on 2 year old Super Reds that seem to be doing fine but are in need of their second cleaning.
Not sure if I want to pull the trigger yet or not.

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Do it and you'll never look back.

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i got a hand me down set forever ago that were easily best bearings i had up to that point. i've run bones swiss since then. i've never killed one and they sustain speed better than anything in my experience.

Whenever any of the better shops have the percentage off sales, Bones Swiss seem to be the one thing that sells out fairly quickly - I usually check as soon as I see the email and then check again a day or so later.

Honestly I wouldn't really want to pay full retail price for anything (mainly because I have had it so easy with shop accounts in the past) but I think at least Bones Swiss never really go on sale at all, so it is one of the few times to get some with a considerable discount.

That said, next time anyone you see seems to have something like that going on, search for SWISS and get a set.  It is totally worth it, from my perspective, of having some running well for twenty years, more so on transition boards, but they really do hold up and last if you are not jumping down stuff or doing a lot of high impact skating.

[Eddy Mitchel]

a new hip

[BeachChicken]

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I need (want) to set up a back up board, mainly because I've been skating an 8.25 forever, and want to try an 8.5.

I'm a thunder trucks guy, hate Indy's, and don't love the look of ventures. I'm in between Lurpiv, or Aces. Those ranger green AF1 got me half mast. Can I buy another pair on Thunders, of course, but want to try something new.

Someone help me decide so I don't regret my purchase. Mostly just riding park and mini ramp. If I ride street, its a mani pad or ledge and I suck regardless

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Are you currently on Thunder 148s?

If so you can try an 8.5 on those anyway and just see what the wider board feels like on those trucks, as quite a few people do run that combination as their regular setup.

In general if you are so comfortable on Thunders, or didn't want to change out anything on an existing setup and get a whole new everything, I would say getting the same Thunder trucks in 149 would be a good decision, maybe more so than trying other brands.

The Madness Support thread is full of similar posts, maybe more so after the person has tried other brand trucks, so this could save you checking in there, or help you a step in whatever direction, any which way.

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yes, on 148.

Good call. But I definitely want a back up board, so going to buy another set. I've been on Thunders for over 10 years, and have been happy as a clam. Appreciate the common sense response!

If you hate Indy why would you want 2 trucks based on Indy that only emphasize the flaws of Indy's? Both Ace and Lurpiv pinch worse, Lurpiv have worse kingpin clearance, and Ace are going to feel crazy if you like Thunder.

Stick with what's working. The grass isn't greener. Honestly the only think I'd suggest to you might be forged Indy or cast Ventures.

[vicious cycle]

I need (want) to set up a back up board, mainly because I've been skating an 8.25 forever, and want to try an 8.5.

I'm a thunder trucks guy, hate Indy's, and don't love the look of ventures. I'm in between Lurpiv, or Aces. Those ranger green AF1 got me half mast. Can I buy another pair on Thunders, of course, but want to try something new.

Someone help me decide so I don't regret my purchase. Mostly just riding park and mini ramp. If I ride street, its a mani pad or ledge and I suck regardless

Maybe check out the Royals.

[moonordie]

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I need (want) to set up a back up board, mainly because I've been skating an 8.25 forever, and want to try an 8.5.

I'm a thunder trucks guy, hate Indy's, and don't love the look of ventures. I'm in between Lurpiv, or Aces. Those ranger green AF1 got me half mast. Can I buy another pair on Thunders, of course, but want to try something new.

Someone help me decide so I don't regret my purchase. Mostly just riding park and mini ramp. If I ride street, its a mani pad or ledge and I suck regardless

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Maybe check out the Royals.

What you hate about Indy? I'm asking since they're pretty close to Ace.

[Scab Picker]

DBX board in 8.38: I just want to try one for the sake of trying one, because I don’t know how long they will be available.

[Bupstop]

Thinking about picking up some slime balls wheels. Kind of got some wheel madness and the bones x formula didn’t do it for me.

[malevy]

Anyone skate the real 8.5 with wheel wells? Wondering if it measures true to the dims online (8.5 - 14.3 wheelbase - 32.18 length)

[Mbrimson88]

Anyone skate the real 8.5 with wheel wells? Wondering if it measures true to the dims online (8.5 - 14.3 wheelbase - 32.18 length)

I have a few of that shape, although not the specific one with wheel wells, but they are true to the 8.5 width, not like the blue eagle 8.5 x 31.75 with 14.25 wb, which is more like 8.3 and tapers significantly.

The bigger 8.5 x 32.18 with 14.38 wb is straight or at least doesn't taper a lot, stays nice and wide from the front bolts to the back, has slightly longer more pointy kicks and I think is a pretty good board to ride.

More info and specs (Tactics is a good example cause they have everything including dimensions and pics) here:


https://www.tactics.com/real/praman-transport-85-wheel-wells-skateboard-deck

Size   8.5
Width (in):   8.5
Length (in):   32.18
Wheelbase (in):   14.38
Nose Length (in):   7.0
Tail Length (in):   6.625

[malevy]

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Anyone skate the real 8.5 with wheel wells? Wondering if it measures true to the dims online (8.5 - 14.3 wheelbase - 32.18 length)

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I have a few of that shape, although not the specific one with wheel wells, but they are true to the 8.5 width, not like the blue eagle 8.5 x 31.75 with 14.25 wb, which is more like 8.3 and tapers significantly.

The bigger 8.5 x 32.18 with 14.38 wb is straight or at least doesn't taper a lot, stays nice and wide from the front bolts to the back, has slightly longer more pointy kicks and I think is a pretty good board to ride.

More info and specs (Tactics is a good example cause they have everything including dimensions and pics) here:


https://www.tactics.com/real/praman-transport-85-wheel-wells-skateboard-deck

Size   8.5
Width (in):   8.5
Length (in):   32.18
Wheelbase (in):   14.38
Nose Length (in):   7.0
Tail Length (in):   6.625

Thanks!!

[j....soy.....]

^ this is correct…..aces are Indy people who want to turn more….

I’d say ventures too but if you don’t like the look…..have you thought about how good the t-shirts look compared to thunders?

[Bongwater Mojito]

I have a few of that shape, although not the specific one with wheel wells, but they are true to the 8.5 width, not like the blue eagle 8.5 x 31.75 with 14.25 wb, which is more like 8.3 and tapers significantly.

The bigger 8.5 x 32.18 with 14.38 wb is straight or at least doesn't taper a lot, stays nice and wide from the front bolts to the back, has slightly longer more pointy kicks and I think is a pretty good board to ride.

So there are (at least) two BBS 8.5 shapes, shorter and longer, shorter being also not true to dims? I am riding now the longer, a Polar. Apparently many DLX pro boards seem to be the shorter version - this is good info, as I'm loving the Polar 8.5 with Ace 60s I just set up. With "more like 8.3" there would be too much hotrod I think.

[Mbrimson88]

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I have a few of that shape, although not the specific one with wheel wells, but they are true to the 8.5 width, not like the blue eagle 8.5 x 31.75 with 14.25 wb, which is more like 8.3 and tapers significantly.

The bigger 8.5 x 32.18 with 14.38 wb is straight or at least doesn't taper a lot, stays nice and wide from the front bolts to the back, has slightly longer more pointy kicks and I think is a pretty good board to ride.

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So there are (at least) two BBS 8.5 shapes, shorter and longer, shorter being also not true to dims? I am riding now the longer, a Polar. Apparently many DLX pro boards seem to be the shorter version - this is good info, as I'm loving the Polar 8.5 with Ace 60s I just set up. With "more like 8.3" there would be too much hotrod I think.

There are actually a few more than that, but going back to the Classic shapes, not all the Full, Full SE, Tru Fit, Short and how ever many other options, there are definitely the main ones that are being used for regular board shapes, maybe the last decade or longer.


Blue eagle (shorter 8.5) which is 8.5 (8.3) x 31.75 with 14.25 wb

DLX other / no name given 8.5 which is 8.5 x 32.18 with 14.38 wb


There is also an older one with 14.75 wb that has been used by a few other brands too.


To note, the Polar 8.5 is a different shape again, as I have one to compare.  The Polar is 8.5 at the widest point but tapers down to almost 8.25 by the tail, this one also has a 14.375 wb (or 14.38 depending on who you ask) with the Polar having a fairly broad big round nose, then a fairly small / tapered but still longish looking tail.

[Teethcanbesexy]

Im thinking about thos beans (8.5 14wb anti hero decks)

[DERBY]

the hockey belzinz shape. kinda got tired of the aws shovel shape but this looks fucking stupid enough that i wanna try it. anyone try this shape before?

it’s a 9.5 but fits 8.4

[propaganda]

kadow board is tough but ion know if I wanna play 8.38

[Slave IV]

My newest setup is a 8.3" 14.25"wb deck with Ace AF1 44 (8.25") and I like the overall feel for everything except it keeps bugging me that the axels are not as wide or wider than the deck. I'd also like to lighten my trucks so I'm contemplating 55 (8.5") or 60 (8.75") hollow axels since Ace recently made them available to buy separately. I know most people just size up one size so they might run 8.5" trucks on a 8.25" deck but I also hear so many people praise 8.75" trucks and since my deck is 8.3", it's in the middle zone of standard sizes, I can't decide which one to get. I don't think I'll be riding anything wider than 8.3" for a while and I'm liking the shorter wheelbase feel I get either with Ace or a combination of shorter wheelbase decks. The slight differences never mattered to me before but I'm convinced the skinnier trucks are making slappys a little harder than they need to be for me right now. My immediate comparison is my other old deck setup that is 8.5" 14.5" wb on Thunder 149 (8.5"), I don't like most of the feel as much (probably due to everything being slightly too big) other than slappys where I consistently lock in comparison. I know Thunders are known for their pinch but I still feel like the width is making a difference. Is it worth trying the AF1 60 hangers to experience the "magical" 8.75" truck feel or is that too wide for the 8.3 and under decks I plan to ride or does that "magical" size not even apply to Ace since I usually hear about it with Indy and Thunders?

[moonordie]

My newest setup is a 8.3" 14.25"wb deck with Ace AF1 44 (8.25") and I like the overall feel for everything except it keeps bugging me that the axels are not as wide or wider than the deck. I'd also like to lighten my trucks so I'm contemplating 55 (8.5") or 60 (8.75") hollow axels since Ace recently made them available to buy separately. I know most people just size up one size so they might run 8.5" trucks on a 8.25" deck but I also hear so many people praise 8.75" trucks and since my deck is 8.3", it's in the middle zone of standard sizes, I can't decide which one to get. I don't think I'll be riding anything wider than 8.3" for a while and I'm liking the shorter wheelbase feel I get either with Ace or a combination of shorter wheelbase decks. The slight differences never mattered to me before but I'm convinced the skinnier trucks are making slappys a little harder than they need to be for me right now. My immediate comparison is my other old deck setup that is 8.5" 14.5" wb on Thunder 149 (8.5"), I don't like most of the feel as much (probably due to everything being slightly too big) other than slappys where I consistently lock in comparison. I know Thunders are known for their pinch but I still feel like the width is making a difference. Is it worth trying the AF1 60 hangers to experience the "magical" 8.75" truck feel or is that too wide for the 8.3 and under decks I plan to ride or does that "magical" size not even apply to Ace since I usually hear about it with Indy and Thunders?

Did you try to add speed rings (that's how they're called?) on the inside?

[TheCrimsonShroud]

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My newest setup is a 8.3" 14.25"wb deck with Ace AF1 44 (8.25") and I like the overall feel for everything except it keeps bugging me that the axels are not as wide or wider than the deck. I'd also like to lighten my trucks so I'm contemplating 55 (8.5") or 60 (8.75") hollow axels since Ace recently made them available to buy separately. I know most people just size up one size so they might run 8.5" trucks on a 8.25" deck but I also hear so many people praise 8.75" trucks and since my deck is 8.3", it's in the middle zone of standard sizes, I can't decide which one to get. I don't think I'll be riding anything wider than 8.3" for a while and I'm liking the shorter wheelbase feel I get either with Ace or a combination of shorter wheelbase decks. The slight differences never mattered to me before but I'm convinced the skinnier trucks are making slappys a little harder than they need to be for me right now. My immediate comparison is my other old deck setup that is 8.5" 14.5" wb on Thunder 149 (8.5"), I don't like most of the feel as much (probably due to everything being slightly too big) other than slappys where I consistently lock in comparison. I know Thunders are known for their pinch but I still feel like the width is making a difference. Is it worth trying the AF1 60 hangers to experience the "magical" 8.75" truck feel or is that too wide for the 8.3 and under decks I plan to ride or does that "magical" size not even apply to Ace since I usually hear about it with Indy and Thunders?

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Did you try to add speed rings (that's how they're called?) on the inside?

Gonna second the speed ring idea. They add about 1mm width to each side. As you’re only, what, .05mm narrower anyway.

I personally enjoy 8.75 a lot, but that’s with 8.75 or larger decks. I’m also admittedly the type to prefer magic carpet to hot rod by a fairly wide margin. Gimme that decreased wheel bite and faster flips.

Also, the whole Ace AF1 hollow setup is only 1g lighter than cast thunders. If I were in your position I’d think it would be more effective to put some thunders on tbh. Cast ones have the same wb as af1 iirc.

[Slave IV]

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My newest setup is a 8.3" 14.25"wb deck with Ace AF1 44 (8.25") and I like the overall feel for everything except it keeps bugging me that the axels are not as wide or wider than the deck. I'd also like to lighten my trucks so I'm contemplating 55 (8.5") or 60 (8.75") hollow axels since Ace recently made them available to buy separately. I know most people just size up one size so they might run 8.5" trucks on a 8.25" deck but I also hear so many people praise 8.75" trucks and since my deck is 8.3", it's in the middle zone of standard sizes, I can't decide which one to get. I don't think I'll be riding anything wider than 8.3" for a while and I'm liking the shorter wheelbase feel I get either with Ace or a combination of shorter wheelbase decks. The slight differences never mattered to me before but I'm convinced the skinnier trucks are making slappys a little harder than they need to be for me right now. My immediate comparison is my other old deck setup that is 8.5" 14.5" wb on Thunder 149 (8.5"), I don't like most of the feel as much (probably due to everything being slightly too big) other than slappys where I consistently lock in comparison. I know Thunders are known for their pinch but I still feel like the width is making a difference. Is it worth trying the AF1 60 hangers to experience the "magical" 8.75" truck feel or is that too wide for the 8.3 and under decks I plan to ride or does that "magical" size not even apply to Ace since I usually hear about it with Indy and Thunders?

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Did you try to add speed rings (that's how they're called?) on the inside?

Good thought! I always run 1 washer on the inside and 1 washer on the outside on all my setups since I can remember. I've never tried adding more than 1 washer to any side and I'm also running NanoCubic wheels so I'm already maximizing my hangar exposure to where I think adding anymore washers would leave a gap between my wheel and the edge of the hangar. Not sure if that would be an issue but I just don't like the thought of having a gap there or running additional washers especially on Ace's that claim you don't need to run any washers. Plus, the axel nuts are already at the edge of the threads.
Thanks for the idea but I think I'm still thinking I want wider hangars - just not sure how wide.