DLX Shapes

[FrAnKenFrEd]

Just came back to post I was wrong about the Jalopi boards... Drooling...

[Sedition]

also weird that they ripped black label
i know lucero doesnt have rights over a word
but why be so lazy
a ton of different names could have been used

Yeah, that's super lame. Should have called it the "beer barge" or something...more original.

[SwitchBenihana]

I would love for DLX to make fewer of these shapes and keep ones that we all love in the actual lineup.

[FatGuy92]

Anyone know the dims for the rust bucket shape?

[Sedition]

I would love for DLX to make fewer of these shapes and keep ones that we all love in the actual lineup.

1000000000000% this.

[FrAnKenFrEd]

Pretty sure the Jalopis are one offs but yeah didn't think about the Black Label pre-existing Tugboat....

[Sedition]

Pretty sure the Jalopis are one offs but yeah didn't think about the Black Label pre-existing Tugboat....

Label has a “tugboat” shape. This is more of a “tugboat” graphic in a “boat series.” Some nuanced difference…but I still wouldn’t have done it.

[SwitchBenihana]

Black Label is probably not on DLX's radar especially a proprietary shape they make. They're on very few radars in general which sucks because their team is pretty legit.

[FrAnKenFrEd]

The Label is def in their radar. Plenty of overlap and mutual respect between those companies.

[Sedition]

….their team is pretty legit.

Elijah is ABSURDLY good and absurdly underrated.

[Sedition]

The Label is def in their radar. Plenty of overlap and mutual respect between those companies.

Without question. I mean, how long did Cards ride for the Label? And didn’t they reissue one of his decks in the last year or two?

[munchbox]

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The Label is def in their radar. Plenty of overlap and mutual respect between those companies.

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Without question. I mean, how long did Cards ride for the Label? And didn’t they reissue one of his decks in the last year or two?

they did, a huffer if i remember
same woodshop and all

pontoon was right there

[Mbrimson88]

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Anyone know the dims for the rust bucket shape?

The DLX Catalog (pre book info) for shops has listed info as follows:

Rust Bucket is 9.2 x 31.6 with 14.38 wb with sanded rails for extra lift, specifically designed for curbs.  Very square nose and tail.

Tugboat is 9.8 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb in the same length and wb as the green eagle, only wider for an all terrain ripper.

Speedboat is 7.74 x 33.99 with 18.3 wb



Also the Hewitt shape reminds me of the Birdhouse Hale deck I got a while back, which is 8.6 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb or something similar, which is pretty much that new shape.  At the time I was after something longer, so it just ended up in a box with others, but I am sure it would be good, like this one as a wider, but not so long type of setup.

[SwitchBenihana]

The Label is def in their radar. Plenty of overlap and mutual respect between those companies.

They can respect the company, but Label isn't exactly popular or a high volume board company. Is it even a brand that is popular in the Bay? I haven't seen a Label in the wild in years and never when I visit my brother in the Bay, but I'm not always paying as much attention. Their YouTube and Social presence is pretty low volume and I cannot imagine Frank checking "oh let's see if Label used this name for a shape and if they'd even care".

[SwitchBenihana]

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….their team is pretty legit.

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Elijah is ABSURDLY good and absurdly underrated.

Jake is also incredible. I thought the team was bigger, but it seems to only be 3 younger pros, Jason, and then guest decks from Omar, Matt Hensley, and Wade Speyer.

[FrAnKenFrEd]

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The Label is def in their radar. Plenty of overlap and mutual respect between those companies.

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They can respect the company, but Label isn't exactly popular or a high volume board company. Is it even a brand that is popular in the Bay? I haven't seen a Label in the wild in years and never when I visit my brother in the Bay, but I'm not always paying as much attention. Their YouTube and Social presence is pretty low volume and I cannot imagine Frank checking "oh let's see if Label used this name for a shape and if they'd even care".

Not that long ago some photos of Cardiel and Stranger with Lucero swapping Grosso boards were on the 'gram. Whatever... it doesn't really matter... The connection is there though...

[Plan9Customs]

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The Label is def in their radar. Plenty of overlap and mutual respect between those companies.

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They can respect the company, but Label isn't exactly popular or a high volume board company. Is it even a brand that is popular in the Bay? I haven't seen a Label in the wild in years and never when I visit my brother in the Bay, but I'm not always paying as much attention.

Go hit potato. You’ll see some Label boards. You might even get to see Elijah ripping the living shit out of it as well.
@Sedition I’ve been paying attention to Elijah since he was on Vagrant. You definitely nailed it with your take. He can fucking destroy anything with no hesitation and can also get tech if he wants but going fast as shit and big.

[BartHarleyJarvis]

@Francis Xavier and I met Lucero at some curbs and he said he wanted to do more of the Cardiel Snuffers for Black Label, he even had a graphic picked to rerelease. Hopefully Deluxe gives him the green light at some point.

[FrAnKenFrEd]

@Francis Xavier and I met Lucero at some curbs and he said he wanted to do more of the Cardiel Snuffers for Black Label, he even had a graphic picked to rerelease. Hopefully Deluxe gives him the green light at some point.

Epic. The Snuffer was a good one. A tiny bit wider than the Huffer.

[SwitchBenihana]

Now that I'm a bit baked the better way to say what I said is "there's a lot going on in the world, running multiple brands, all that DLX has to do that it probably was a slip of mind because they don't seem like the folks that would be dicks like that."

Elijah's parts are some of my most re-watched and he needs to be in many more conversations. The last label video was great. My grandparents lived in a rural town and their shop only carried Zorlac, Consolidated, and Black Label and the rare times I was able to afford a deck I'd pick Label.

[pointandclick]

Now that I'm a bit baked the better way to say what I said is "there's a lot going on in the world, running multiple brands, all that DLX has to do that it probably was a slip of mind because they don't seem like the folks that would be dicks like that."

Elijah's parts are some of my most re-watched and he needs to be in many more conversations. The last label video was great. My grandparents lived in a rural town and their shop only carried Zorlac, Consolidated, and Black Label and the rare times I was able to afford a deck I'd pick Label.

I always have a soft spot for the label.

[FrAnKenFrEd]

My grandparents lived in a rural town and their shop only carried Zorlac, Consolidated, and Black Label and the rare times I was able to afford a deck I'd pick Label.

That was a rad fucking shop.

[Esmith5488]

Currently on the 8.5 dbx. Sorta want to go down to the 8.25. Not worried about the wheelbase difference but for some reason the length difference is worrying me. I get that 31.8-32 isn’t a huge jump but man…. I can see it totally ruining a few sessions lol

[skatebruh]

[Mbrimson88]

Currently on the 8.5 dbx. Sorta want to go down to the 8.25. Not worried about the wheelbase difference but for some reason the length difference is worrying me. I get that 31.8-32 isn’t a huge jump but man…. I can see it totally ruining a few sessions lol

I know from my own experience that a few mm can make or break a deal for some measurements, mainly width of board or size of wheel, but when looking at the two decks, one on top of the other, then swapped around, there is so little in it that a couple of mm at either end really seems like the least of my worries.

Got both those set up and maybe to me the "blue eagle" 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 comes up a little short in the tail for my liking, yet I can skate it fine, with the regular 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb feeling just a little narrow, but everything else feels almost right.

If you were looking at another DBX board, there is also the Krooked Full SE 8.25 which also has a 14.25 wb, but the shape might put you off more than anything - full shapes have their place, but maybe not so well liked by some.

Probably best looking at them in person though, but stacking them and seeing where they sit in relation to each other, there is very little in it.


* The funny thing is even though I can try to take pics, they almost show nothing different, or not enough to really notice from these, but I can feel it when standing on the two boards.

[Sedition]

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Currently on the 8.5 dbx. Sorta want to go down to the 8.25. Not worried about the wheelbase difference but for some reason the length difference is worrying me. I get that 31.8-32 isn’t a huge jump but man…. I can see it totally ruining a few sessions lol

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I know from my own experience that a few mm can make or break a deal for some measurements, mainly width of board or size of wheel, but when looking at the two decks, one on top of the other, then swapped around, there is so little in it that a couple of mm at either end really seems like the least of my worries.

Got both those set up and maybe to me the "blue eagle" 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 comes up a little short in the tail for my liking, yet I can skate it fine, with the regular 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb feeling just a little narrow, but everything else feels almost right.

If you were looking at another DBX board, there is also the Krooked Full SE 8.25 which also has a 14.25 wb, but the shape might put you off more than anything - full shapes have their place, but maybe not so well liked by some.

Probably best looking at them in person though, but stacking them and seeing where they sit in relation to each other, there is very little in it.


* The funny thing is even though I can try to take pics, they almost show nothing different, or not enough to really notice from these, but I can feel it when standing on the two boards.

I’ll look at unmounted DLX decks next to, or top of, each other (e.g. 8.25, 8.38, 8.4, 8.28, etc.) and I’m like the “differences” among these are so slight, that it’s really nothing more than arbitrary and capricious constructions of my mind, and don’t meaningfully exist in the real world.

Then I compare/skate two of them set up on the same trucks/wheels, and it’s like I am dealing with lightening and a lightening bug.

How can such seemingly minuscule variation in shape and dimension suddenly have such a catastrophic and demonstrative effect? It boggles the mind. I know I’m not alone in this…

And don’t even get me started on wheels...

[JugeL]

Search bar hasn’t really worked with me lately so sorry in advance if this has already been discussed.

Any experiences with the 8.5/31.85/14.25 decks? Currently on those China 8.25/32/14.38 boards and was wondering how they compare to those? Looking just at the numbers, length and wheelbase would be more up to my alley but is there any suprises that dont show? Like the Mason shape having short tail.

Currently also on Thunders 148/149 and not planing to change that.

[Sedition]

Search bar hasn’t really worked with me lately so sorry in advance if this has already been discussed.

Any experiences with the 8.5/31.85/14.25 decks? Currently on those China 8.25/32/14.38 boards and was wondering how they compare to those? Looking just at the numbers, length and wheelbase would be more up to my alley but is there any suprises that dont show? Like the Mason shape having short tail.

Currently also on Thunders 148/149 and not planing to change that.

I’ve not ridden the China 8.25s, but the BBS/DLX 8.25
has been my mainstay for a loooong time. For reference, I am 5’11” with a size 10 in Vans.

That said, I’ve always liked the width of the 8.5 (it’s not actually 8.5), but the tail is like 1/16” shorter than the 8.25. Some like that. Some don’t. I also have a problematic relationship with 14.25 wheelbase, despite it pretty much being an industry standard. 14.25 is usually too cramped for me. I have issues with the 8.5 because for me it feels too short overall, tail is too short, and wheelbase too cramped.

However, the 8.25, 8.38, and 8.5 seem to be the most popular DLX decks, so there is certainly lots of love for the 8.5.

[rikki]

How much more tapered is the tail in the 8.5 (Blue Eagle etc.) as compared to the 8.25?

Didn't really like the tapered tail on the Baker b16 which in my understanding is a pretty similar shape to the DLX 8.5.

[Sedition]

How much more tapered is the tail in the 8.5 (Blue Eagle etc.) as compared to the 8.25?

Didn't really like the tapered tail on the Baker b16 which in my understanding is a pretty similar shape to the DLX 8.5.

I am sure @Mbrimson88 can give you the exact taper widths, but it does taper a bit. I've not ridden Baker decks, so I can't comment on those. Also take look at the 8.4 DLX deck. It's sort of a cross of the 8.25 and the 8.5. It has 14.25 WB, far less (none?) taper, and is actually closer in width to the the 8.25 than the 8.5. Oddly, it feels wider than than 8.25, despite being almost exact same width. Nose on the 8.4 is slightly longer than both the 8.5 and the 8.25. It's also the same length as the 8.25, but to me, feels a tad shorter. On paper, the differences between these three is very slight, but per my post above the difference in reality seems much more acute.