DLX Shapes

[texasplant]

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The one I bought just the other day wasn’t stamped at all, but I would say it seems quite a bit steeper than my previous IV.

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I saw OCD had a few but already sold out, but apart from that I hadn't gone looking much at what anywhere else had here in Australia.

The price on OCD was almost $260 which I was expecting, but it still makes me catch my breath as that is a lot of money for one deck.

Was yours from here within AU or from somewhere else?  Not a worry where, just curious.

Yeah mine was from Aus, I’ve got some connects so I managed to get ahold of one. There definitely was only a handful of each size sent down here though.


I won’t be able to skate it for a few more months, but I certainly wouldn’t pay full price for one regardless of how long it lasts, but I wanted to try it at least once.

As for the shape it looks and feels quite a bit steeper in the pockets. I’ve never had a I or II 8.5 though to make a comparison.

[Mbrimson88]

Yeah mine was from Aus, I’ve got some connects so I managed to get ahold of one. There definitely was only a handful of each size sent down here though.


I won’t be able to skate it for a few more months, but I certainly wouldn’t pay full price for one regardless of how long it lasts, but I wanted to try it at least once.

As for the shape it looks and feels quite a bit steeper in the pockets. I’ve never had a I or II 8.5 though to make a comparison.

Nice!

I heard some were around, but I am still working through the back catalog of normal DLX / BBS boards I have, so thought no need to rush with the super limited numbers in the first drop here.

More are on the way too, with a few more shape options, so we will see, eg the new 8.62 in DBX would be interesting.

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Ok, I can’t believe I’ve never seen (missed??) this info posted in this thread before:

Does anyone know/have the approximate kick angles of I-IV stamped decks? Some out there with angle finder / phone level must have measured these.

@Mbrimson88 I feel like this is something you’d know?

[Esmith5488]

In my experience the dbx was pretty mellow. I normally skate a IV in dlx and it felt comparable

[Fifty8mm]

In my experience the dbx was pretty mellow. I normally skate a IV in dlx and it felt comparable

It was mellower than any roman stamped dlx deck I've skated recently. Only easy riders are mellower.

has anybody heard crackling coming from their dbx decks. That is what stopping me from skating it. Pops good still but that crackling sound just bugs me out. I know its the board. I ruled out the trucks. Disassembled the board and twisted a bit with my hands amd heard it. Place it tail down vertically and put pressure downward on the nose and heard the crackling. Board still skates good.

Pop-Rocks ass board lol.

[Fifty8mm]

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Super bummed ... bailed a trick and my board rolled into the corner of a ledge and picked it up to this ... I was ok with the chip (even though it didn't hit that hard) but not the fact the whole top layer started to peel up.  This was only my second time actually skating it.  Def can't justify $100+ decks if the cheaper ones seem to take the hits better, even if I liked the way it felt.  All of this when I'm unemployed = sad panda

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Did you ever file a warranty claim? If so, outcome?

Most technology boards have this happen. I remember those Fiberlam decks, same shit happening to them.

Best technology deck I've ever skated is the impact disc almosts. I currently am swapping two around.  Both feel super crisp. Tried to focus one like 5 times cause it is close to razor tail and nothing. Landed horribly on the nose and nothing.

I'm nerding out but maybe the secret to having technology construction is to not add a whole sheet, keep the wood shielding the tech. Maybe the glue doesn't bond as well with tech ply compared to wood to wood bond.

[Esmith5488]

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In my experience the dbx was pretty mellow. I normally skate a IV in dlx and it felt comparable

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It was mellower than any roman stamped dlx deck I've skated recently. Only easy riders are mellower.

has anybody heard crackling coming from their dbx decks. That is what stopping me from skating it. Pops good still but that crackling sound just bugs me out. I know its the board. I ruled out the trucks. Disassembled the board and twisted a bit with my hands amd heard it. Place it tail down vertically and put pressure downward on the nose and heard the crackling. Board still skates good.

Pop-Rocks ass board lol.

I was going to say it felt almost like the easy riders I was on but I didn’t know if I was just imagining it.

[Mbrimson88]

Ok, I can’t believe I’ve never seen (missed??) this info posted in this thread before:

Does anyone know/have the approximate kick angles of I-IV stamped decks? Some out there with angle finder / phone level must have measured these.

@Mbrimson88 I feel like this is something you’d know?

Ha yeah it is a funny one, but I think from checking way too many boards now, after I did buy a box of angle finders, there is not exactly one set number for each of the different roman numeral stamps, but maybe a rough guess if I recall, more like this:

I Stamp = 23 to 25 nose, 22 to 24 tail

II Stamp = 22 to 24 nose, 21 to 23 tail

III Stamp = 21 to 23 nose, 20 to 22 tail

IV Stamp = 20 to 22 nose, 19 to 21 tail


I have had more IV stamp boards than any other number, so just from those alone, some boards that were so very flat feeling, both kicks barely 20 degrees, but then others that also had IV stamp that were way steeper, as in almost 23 nose and 22 tail, which I kept as a show and tell.  I kept the flattest board too, come to think of it, might have been 19 nose and 18 tail, which seemed ridiculous, but I set up another one that was almost the same and I loved it, so who knows.

Usually I will drive over anything over 21 in the tail, just to mellow it out a touch too, but occasionally I will leave them, especially if I am using a set of drilled in trucks on it.


* All the Black Label boards I have had in the last year or so have been super steep, compared to my usual boards, but I don't know whether that is just the boards I have bought or all of them now.  I seem to recall a lot of other Black Label boards never being that steep a few years ago when I got some when they changed to BBS wood.


Comparisons here from a while back (two years ago actually):


https://www.instagram.com/mbrimson88/p/CwrV0VLJH0m/

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Ok, I can’t believe I’ve never seen (missed??) this info posted in this thread before:

Does anyone know/have the approximate kick angles of I-IV stamped decks? Some out there with angle finder / phone level must have measured these.

@Mbrimson88 I feel like this is something you’d know?

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Ha yeah it is a funny one, but I think from checking way too many boards now, after I did buy a box of angle finders, there is not exactly one set number for each of the different roman numeral stamps, but maybe a rough guess if I recall, more like this:

I Stamp = 23 to 25 nose, 22 to 24 tail

II Stamp = 22 to 24 nose, 21 to 23 tail

III Stamp = 21 to 23 nose, 20 to 22 tail

IV Stamp = 20 to 22 nose, 19 to 21 tail


I have had more IV stamp boards than any other number, so just from those alone, some boards that were so very flat feeling, both kicks barely 20 degrees, but then others that also had IV stamp that were way steeper, as in almost 23 nose and 22 tail, which I kept as a show and tell.  I kept the flattest board too, come to think of it, might have been 19 nose and 18 tail, which seemed ridiculous, but I set up another one that was almost the same and I loved it, so who knows.

Usually I will drive over anything over 21 in the tail, just to mellow it out a touch too, but occasionally I will leave them, especially if I am using a set of drilled in trucks on it.


* All the Black Label boards I have had in the last year or so have been super steep, compared to my usual boards, but I don't know whether that is just the boards I have bought or all of them now.  I seem to recall a lot of other Black Label boards never being that steep a few years ago when I got some when they changed to BBS wood.


Comparisons here from a while back (two years ago actually):


https://www.instagram.com/mbrimson88/p/CwrV0VLJH0m/

@Mbrimson88, thanks so much for that DLX info (I knew you would know). I currently have an 8.25/14.38 IV stamp, and my angle measurements corroborate yours.

As to Black Label…

I’ve had a few of their 8.25s, and more 8.5s than I care to admit. The kicks on them have •always• felt waaaay too steep to me. Like, un-rideable steep. I’ve tried parking on them to flatten them a bit, but they always seem to feel waaaay too mushy-gross and flat afterwards.

Now for the LBL curve-ball that I have no way of explaining: I’ve been riding a lot of their 8.75/14.5 decks recently. And for some freak reason, the kicks on these seem to feel consistently flatter than the other 8.25/8.5 LBL decks I’ve had. I assume the 8.5 and 8.75 are same mold (both have 14.5wb), so I don’t thinks that’s it. Could somehow a wider tail on the 8.75 make it feel flatter? No idea. I fear the day I end up with one of their 8.75s that is too steep for me. I don’t think I could now go back the DLX 8.25/14.38…would probably have to go up to the DLX 8.75/14.62 (which is a bit long for me).

What I’d kill for? The LBL 8.75 or 8.5 shape / dimensions in a DLX IV stamp steepness.

[DarkPools]

Black Label's 8.5 shape is one that gets better the more you skate it. It is arguably too steep at first, especially if you're running Indy standards and 54+ wheels on it. Hefty set up, but so much fun in backyard pools/transition.

I noticed all my 8.5 Labels (at least 7+ so far + 2 on ice) were perfect (not too mellow or too steep) 2 weeks into skating them. The kick angles mellowed a bit and the concave was perfect for me. Fresh? Almost too much!

DLX molds seem to have a solid balance in kick angle and concave in many of their shapes, so I keep coming back in between a Label/Polar deck.

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Black Label's 8.5 shape is one that gets better the more you skate it. It is arguably too steep at first, especially if you're running Indy standards and 54+ wheels on it. Hefty set up, but so much fun in backyard pools/transition.

I noticed all my 8.5 Labels (at least 7+ so far + 2 on ice) were perfect (not too mellow or too steep) 2 weeks into skating them. The kick angles mellowed a bit and the concave was perfect for me. Fresh? Almost too much!

DLX molds seem to have a solid balance in kick angle and concave in many of their shapes, so I keep coming back in between a Label/Polar deck.

Interesting to hear that. That said, not sure I could wait two weeks for a deck to break-in. Maybe I'll get one more, and force myself to stay on it for awhile. My 8.25 is feeling too small to me these days. The 8.75 feels much better, but can still be a little clunky at times. On paper, an 8.5/14.5 should be some kind of magic bullet, but they have never seemed to pan out (any brand). They are kind of the worst of both, and the best of neither. They don't seem to have the stability of the 8.75 (which is what makes those great), or the agility of the 8.25. Worst of both. Best of neither.

[DarkPools]

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Black Label's 8.5 shape is one that gets better the more you skate it. It is arguably too steep at first, especially if you're running Indy standards and 54+ wheels on it. Hefty set up, but so much fun in backyard pools/transition.

I noticed all my 8.5 Labels (at least 7+ so far + 2 on ice) were perfect (not too mellow or too steep) 2 weeks into skating them. The kick angles mellowed a bit and the concave was perfect for me. Fresh? Almost too much!

DLX molds seem to have a solid balance in kick angle and concave in many of their shapes, so I keep coming back in between a Label/Polar deck.

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Interesting to hear that. That said, not sure I could wait two weeks for a deck to break-in. Maybe I'll get one more, and force myself to stay on it for awhile. My 8.25 is feeling too small to me these days. The 8.75 feels much better, but can still be a little clunky at times. On paper, an 8.5/14.5 should be some kind of magic bullet, but they have never seemed to pan out (any brand). They are kind of the worst of both, and the best of neither. They don't seem to have the stability of the 8.75 (which is what makes those great), or the agility of the 8.25. Worst of both. Best of neither.

This is my personal preference, so 2 weeks with ~5 days/sessions per week is what works for me when I skate them. It gets it to that broken in sweet spot for at least 2-3 weeks before it's in its twilight days of needing to be retired. I still find them incredibly skateable in those first 2 weeks, however. I've skated at least 2 Label decks for 2.5 months, and one for 4 months before. Perhaps I'm kinda biased as I've spent so much time on them from 2021 - 2024 alone.

I actually find the 8.5 to be the best of 8.25 and 8.75 shapes. Nimble enough to 360 flip easily like 8.25 (even at 14.5" and 32.2") but still stable like an 8.75 without being a boat. I'm 5'10, more legs than torso, and run 11.5 - 12 in shoes, so that also has something to do with it

[Mcidraque]

8.28" newbie here: does it measures closer to 8.25" or 8.3? cheers!

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Sorry guys ... worst year and summer of my life and I'm trying to turn things around but it's been slow going.  Been laid off for months and well, web dev positions now have like 3000+ applicants per job so it's not looking rad.

Anywho DLX warrantee'd my board and sent me out a new one!  Sorry for the delay on the update.  Skating and time on here have been pretty much non-existent lately.

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Sorry guys ... worst year and summer of my life and I'm trying to turn things around but it's been slow going.  Been laid off for months and well, web dev positions now have like 3000+ applicants per job so it's not looking rad.

Anywho DLX warrantee'd my board and sent me out a new one!  Sorry for the delay on the update.  Skating and time on here have been pretty much non-existent lately.

Sorry to hear that (job stuff). Best of luck. Cool DLX hooked it up.

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Black Label's 8.5 shape is one that gets better the more you skate it. It is arguably too steep at first, especially if you're running Indy standards and 54+ wheels on it. Hefty set up, but so much fun in backyard pools/transition.

I noticed all my 8.5 Labels (at least 7+ so far + 2 on ice) were perfect (not too mellow or too steep) 2 weeks into skating them. The kick angles mellowed a bit and the concave was perfect for me. Fresh? Almost too much!

DLX molds seem to have a solid balance in kick angle and concave in many of their shapes, so I keep coming back in between a Label/Polar deck.

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Interesting to hear that. That said, not sure I could wait two weeks for a deck to break-in. Maybe I'll get one more, and force myself to stay on it for awhile. My 8.25 is feeling too small to me these days. The 8.75 feels much better, but can still be a little clunky at times. On paper, an 8.5/14.5 should be some kind of magic bullet, but they have never seemed to pan out (any brand). They are kind of the worst of both, and the best of neither. They don't seem to have the stability of the 8.75 (which is what makes those great), or the agility of the 8.25. Worst of both. Best of neither.

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This is my personal preference, so 2 weeks with ~5 days/sessions per week is what works for me when I skate them. It gets it to that broken in sweet spot for at least 2-3 weeks before it's in its twilight days of needing to be retired. I still find them incredibly skateable in those first 2 weeks, however. I've skated at least 2 Label decks for 2.5 months, and one for 4 months before. Perhaps I'm kinda biased as I've spent so much time on them from 2021 - 2024 alone.

I actually find the 8.5 to be the best of 8.25 and 8.75 shapes. Nimble enough to 360 flip easily like 8.25 (even at 14.5" and 32.2") but still stable like an 8.75 without being a boat. I'm 5'10, more legs than torso, and run 11.5 - 12 in shoes, so that also has something to do with it

Was thinking a lot about this post today. Realized I’m
about 2-3 weeks into my current LBL 8.75, and man, it’s feeling great. So, I based on your feedback…I maybe ordered another 8.5 LBL for my next set-up…and I’ll force myself to stick with it a bit longer. Will report back.

[Mbrimson88]

8.28" newbie here: does it measures closer to 8.25" or 8.3? cheers!

I had one 8.28 that was maybe a single mm wider than the regular 8.25 which in itself is wider than every other 8.25 on the market, but the last three 8.28 boards have come through my hands been the same as the regular DLX 8.25 in width.

Others have said that the 8.28 shape is really just a short 8.25 and they call it the 8.28 shape just so it is easier to identify, which kind of makes sense now, because there really is nothing in it between some of these boards.

The silly thing is when I put the different sizes into the online conversion tool - mm to inch, there is really barely 2 mm difference between 8.25 and 8.3 anyway.

8.25 = almost 210

8.28 = 210

8.3 = almost 211 mm


* Even I have said before every mm counts in skateboard products, but if you have had a DLX 8.25 before, it will be the same, just a little shorter in overall length and wheelbase.  Maybe I should have just said that at the start.

[rikki]

I had one 8.28 that was maybe a single mm wider than the regular 8.25 which in itself is wider than every other 8.25 on the market, but the last three 8.28 boards have come through my hands been the same as the regular DLX 8.25 in width.

A general note, which is good to know whenever talking about the regular DLX 8.25: there's a difference in width between the BBS DLX 8.25 and the China DLX 8.25: the BBS ones are basically 8.38 in reality, whereas the China-made ones are 8.25 spot on.

[Mbrimson88]

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I had one 8.28 that was maybe a single mm wider than the regular 8.25 which in itself is wider than every other 8.25 on the market, but the last three 8.28 boards have come through my hands been the same as the regular DLX 8.25 in width.

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A general note, which is good to know whenever talking about the regular DLX 8.25: there's a difference in width between the BBS DLX 8.25 and the China DLX 8.25: the BBS ones are basically 8.38 in reality, whereas the China-made ones are 8.25 spot on.

Ha yeah I recall you saying that.  It is funny that the China 8.25 is still a board I have not bought, as most people who I know are on 8.3 variants and up, with the others still well stocked up with their own 8.25 boards right now as well.

So yes I should have added, the DLX BBS 8.25 and the DLX BBS 8.28 are almost the same, but still wider than any other 8.25 on the market.

In that case I wonder if the 8.28 shape from DLX China is closer to the original BBS 8.25 or the new China 8.25 shape.


* Thinking back over the DLX China boards, I have bought the regular 8.38, longer 8.5, Cardiel 8.6, regular 8.75, Wilkins 8.86 and long 9.0 shapes, off the top of my head.  Everything else has been older BBS wood, but I can't even recall the last regular 8.25 or smaller board I ordered either.


** The China DLX 8.28 has come out in AH Roach Toad, Grimple Spaced, Krooked Una and Real Mason from just checking now at least, so there are a few out there.

[Mbrimson88]

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So here's an interesting one.

Tactics have DBX boards up, but with the pics, the sticker is in the middle of the bolts, as there is no number stamp on DBX boards, as per the pic below.

Also someone in the know said DBX boards have never had any number stamps as they are single press, so that is an interesting one.

Link and pic below, nothing to do with sales, just to see the pic and the link that it came from.


https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/dbx-eagle-825-basalt-skateboard-deck/yellow

[texasplant]

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So here's an interesting one.

Tactics have DBX boards up, but with the pics, the sticker is in the middle of the bolts, as there is no number stamp on DBX boards, as per the pic below.

Also someone in the know said DBX boards have never had any number stamps as they are single press, so that is an interesting one.

Link and pic below, nothing to do with sales, just to see the pic and the link that it came from.


https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/dbx-eagle-825-basalt-skateboard-deck/yellow

Definitely no stamp on mine either!

[Mcidraque]

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8.28" newbie here: does it measures closer to 8.25" or 8.3? cheers!

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I had one 8.28 that was maybe a single mm wider than the regular 8.25 which in itself is wider than every other 8.25 on the market, but the last three 8.28 boards have come through my hands been the same as the regular DLX 8.25 in width.

Others have said that the 8.28 shape is really just a short 8.25 and they call it the 8.28 shape just so it is easier to identify, which kind of makes sense now, because there really is nothing in it between some of these boards.

The silly thing is when I put the different sizes into the online conversion tool - mm to inch, there is really barely 2 mm difference between 8.25 and 8.3 anyway.

8.25 = almost 210

8.28 = 210

8.3 = almost 211 mm


* Even I have said before every mm counts in skateboard products, but if you have had a DLX 8.25 before, it will be the same, just a little shorter in overall length and wheelbase.  Maybe I should have just said that at the start.

cheers!

[BartHarleyJarvis]

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So here's an interesting one.

Tactics have DBX boards up, but with the pics, the sticker is in the middle of the bolts, as there is no number stamp on DBX boards, as per the pic below.

Also someone in the know said DBX boards have never had any number stamps as they are single press, so that is an interesting one.

Link and pic below, nothing to do with sales, just to see the pic and the link that it came from.


https://www.tactics.com/anti-hero/dbx-eagle-825-basalt-skateboard-deck/yellow

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Definitely no stamp on mine either!

No Stamp on mine.

Excited to skate mine tomorrow. It is spooky holding it for the first time, you can *feel* the difference. It's not much but it's definitely lighter and thinner...

[rikki]

Pulled the trigger on the DLX 8.5 x 14.25 for the first time ever. Haven't set it up yet. Got a IV stamped one. Feels really nice underfoot just on the carpet. Similar to the Baker b16 but doesn't taper as much at the tail, which is nice.

Should I ride it with Indy cast or Venture cast? Generally torn between those two trucks these days.

Or maybe Indy forged?

Yeah, madness.

[franc]

That shape with 149s and 52 F4 Classics has been my main setup for years now for a reason.

Have fun!

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Pulled the trigger on the DLX 8.5 x 14.25 for the first time ever. Haven't set it up yet. Got a IV stamped one. Feels really nice underfoot just on the carpet. Similar to the Baker b16 but doesn't taper as much at the tail, which is nice.

Should I ride it with Indy cast or Venture cast? Generally torn between those two trucks these days.

Or maybe Indy forged?

Yeah, madness.

149 forged. Not too tall. Not too low. Not too light. Not too heavy. Not too squirrel (Ace / T2). Not too tight (T1 /  Venture). The most perfect all-purpose truck ever made.

[roba]

i loved it with ventures...

[peterpenis]

I bought a few enjoi r7 decks on sale when my local tried to get rid of them. Before that I was mostly skating the white and cream eagle shapes. Compared to the bbs boards I was impressed by the long lasting pop of the r7 decks. But shape wise nothing beats the 8.75 dlx shape for me.
Are the Chinese dlx boards comparable to the r7 epoxy thing from enjoi? Otherwise I might have to look for similar shapes from the former dwindle cosmos, was really impressed how long these enjoi decks lasted

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…But shape wise nothing beats the 8.75 dlx shape for me….

Check the 8.75 Black Label some time. Exact same shape as the DLX 8.75, but with a 14.5 wb, making it a little more nimble.

[nurkdurk]

Pulled the trigger on the DLX 8.5 x 14.25 for the first time ever. Haven't set it up yet. Got a IV stamped one. Feels really nice underfoot just on the carpet. Similar to the Baker b16 but doesn't taper as much at the tail, which is nice.

Should I ride it with Indy cast or Venture cast? Generally torn between those two trucks these days.

Or maybe Indy forged?

Yeah, madness.

I skated that shape on thunders, venture cast and fh 149s (it was scientific testing, not madness). Tail is pretty short and I had some ghost pop coming out of steeper banks.
I thought it was great with forged Indy’s. Keep in mind I skated nothing but Indy from 97-24 though, I’ll probably always lean to them.