DLX Shapes

[Mbrimson88]

@Sedition

 Oh heck yeah those are different! I’ve never liked the 8.25 x 14.38 WB shape. Too rounded for me.

Now the 8.38x14.5wb is divine.

But I think the 8.5x14.38wb just ate its lunch

@Mbrimson88
What’s really cool, and maybe they do it on purpose, but they seem to spread the shapes around to different riders, so if you only buy a particular shape, you’ll spread the $$ to the whole team.

Except twin tails, only Ishod gets that bag, haha.

Too many posts to add as replies to each one, but as per this conversation, it is easy just to add to this one.


Definitely, spread the love around so everyone gets a go.  I actually like that about getting so many 8.38 boards, as well as a few 8.25 or the occasional 8.5 with 14.38 wb, such as the Nick Matthews AH Fireside deck I just got too - might be the only fresh new deck I get for myself in a while, but I saw the graphic and thought it was pretty cool.


As per those shapes pic, @Sedition I could see the 8.25 more classic rounded nose, compared to the more pointy 8.5 beside it.  That is what gave it away for me.

It is also the same with my 8.38 boards, which I would consider pointy, compared to a few others I have on the go.  I also bring in the tail a bit and the nose a touch these days, so the actual wheelbase is closer to 14.25 on my regular setups, but I have the same boards unchanged on the Thunder T-II trucks and they are so good for me.

Still yet to really mess with a few more shapes I have in mind to try, but for the most part I have one of everything set up with some form of "regular" unmodified parts, then if I have more than one, I have really gone above and beyond with trying a few different options with double drilled baseplates, altered wheelbases drilling the deck, or other things too.

When I have access, I am stoked to be able to try so many different things with them.

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How's the 9.1 egg or "WEGG"? I gave up with Horse Pill after three session. It felt too dangerous to me because it feels so short.

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If it is the same egg 9.1 board as has been out before for various DLX riders, it is a twin, 9.1 x 32 with 14.5 wb and approximately 6.625 kicks, so that might or might not be to your liking.

I have 8.75 trucks on the one I have set up with the double drilled baseplate (like V8 only on forged Indy variants) but some others had the same board set up on 8.5 trucks and it looked and skated fine like that too.

Ok. It's the Krooked gonz 9.1 egg. Whats the width over trucks? My shop says it's 8.65" but is that correct? I only have 9" trucks right now so Im going to use those with that board.

[Mbrimson88]

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How's the 9.1 egg or "WEGG"? I gave up with Horse Pill after three session. It felt too dangerous to me because it feels so short.

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If it is the same egg 9.1 board as has been out before for various DLX riders, it is a twin, 9.1 x 32 with 14.5 wb and approximately 6.625 kicks, so that might or might not be to your liking.

I have 8.75 trucks on the one I have set up with the double drilled baseplate (like V8 only on forged Indy variants) but some others had the same board set up on 8.5 trucks and it looked and skated fine like that too.

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Ok. It's the Krooked gonz 9.1 egg. Whats the width over trucks? My shop says it's 8.65" but is that correct? I only have 9" trucks right now so Im going to use those with that board.

Yes I think that is about it - around 8.75 or so.

Another guy did have Indy 169s on his too and he skated it fine, so I guess it wouldn't be a problem to try it and see.

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How's the 9.1 egg or "WEGG"? I gave up with Horse Pill after three session. It felt too dangerous to me because it feels so short.

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If it is the same egg 9.1 board as has been out before for various DLX riders, it is a twin, 9.1 x 32 with 14.5 wb and approximately 6.625 kicks, so that might or might not be to your liking.

I have 8.75 trucks on the one I have set up with the double drilled baseplate (like V8 only on forged Indy variants) but some others had the same board set up on 8.5 trucks and it looked and skated fine like that too.

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Ok. It's the Krooked gonz 9.1 egg. Whats the width over trucks? My shop says it's 8.65" but is that correct? I only have 9" trucks right now so Im going to use those with that board.

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Yes I think that is about it - around 8.75 or so.

Another guy did have Indy 169s on his too and he skated it fine, so I guess it wouldn't be a problem to try it and see.

Sounds pretty good then. Im always worried with eggs and how much they taper towards the trucks.

[Sedition]

The Full (shovel?) shapes hurt my eyes and feelings.

The 8.25 isn’t too bad, just a bit too circley on the ends.

I’d categorize the 8.38 is pointier than the 8.25, even though it’s wider.

I’ll have to use radius to describe it:
8.25 has a larger radius of nose/tail than 8.38.  And the 8.5x14.38 has a smaller radius than the 8.38 (roughly by eyeballing it)

I’m not familiar with any other shape unfortunately.

Ok, this now make sense to me. I'll certainly agree that the 8.25 is "less pointy" (and thus more rounded/circular) than the 8.38 or 8.5/14.38, which are absolutely more pointy.* If you ever get a chance, look at the nose on the 8.4 and 8.5 (14.25). I feel like those are much more circular than the 8.25/14.38 (but not per-se pointy), which holds the straight edge a bit longer before bending in.   

Yeah, the Fulls are rough. I tried one or two of them for transition skating, and kept feeling like my foot was getting "lost" in the tail when setting up for tricks...like I wasn't sure "where" my foot was in relation to sides, tip, etc. Weird feeling. They are also hard to just "look" at it.

*And I really don't like pointy kicks. They look weird to me, and my feet feel like they are left searching for some traction/contact points that just aren't there. They do scoop really well, though!

[rikki]

Pointy tails mess up with my no complies and bs shuvs.

It's like I have to be a lot more accurate with my toes / ball of foot.

For some reason, front shoves aren't that much affected.

[Sedition]

Pointy tails mess up with my no complies and bs shuvs.

It's like I have to be a lot more accurate with my toes / ball of foot.

For some reason, front shoves aren't that much affected.

Aside from the appearance, and feel, of pointy kicks, they impact my ability, too. Why? I am not as precise as I used to be. And that is exactly it, pointy kicks require me to be more accurate, and I like kicks that allow me to be a little more messy, because that is a lot more helpful (and comfortable) to me these days.

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The lack of the REAL 8.25 FULL SE shape in the last few drops is bumming me out..

[MMongrel]

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How's the 9.1 egg or "WEGG"? I gave up with Horse Pill after three session. It felt too dangerous to me because it feels so short.

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If it is the same egg 9.1 board as has been out before for various DLX riders, it is a twin, 9.1 x 32 with 14.5 wb and approximately 6.625 kicks, so that might or might not be to your liking.

I have 8.75 trucks on the one I have set up with the double drilled baseplate (like V8 only on forged Indy variants) but some others had the same board set up on 8.5 trucks and it looked and skated fine like that too.

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Ok. It's the Krooked gonz 9.1 egg. Whats the width over trucks? My shop says it's 8.65" but is that correct? I only have 9" trucks right now so Im going to use those with that board.

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Yes I think that is about it - around 8.75 or so.

Another guy did have Indy 169s on his too and he skated it fine, so I guess it wouldn't be a problem to try it and see.

It's a bit less than 8.75. At least on the china pressed one. I just set one up with Af1 60s and have the OJ mini combos stick out a teeny bit. 8.5" trucks would be better I think but this is what I have at hand and I just like 8.75"'s.

[SwitchBenihana]

The lack of the REAL 8.25 FULL SE shape in the last few drops is bumming me out..

It's fine, there are like 37 True Fits in widths that most kids or small people wouldn't want to ride. I love the concept but damn, let's get the staples right first.

The 8.25 Full SE should just be the normal 8.25.

Take the 8.25 now and re-name it 8.3.

The current 8.38 make it the 8.5. Take the current 8.5 and call it 8.357474 or some unique number like the 8.28. That order would follow some logic. Then maybe make a true fit 8.25 and maybe 8.5 for the older folks. But why does the 8.125 have a longer length and WB than the normal 8.5? That should probably be 14.1. Take the 14.38 8.06 and that should be 14". Then do a true fit of one of the narrower widths for the kids.

[Sedition]

Something else I don't think I've seen anyone mention before....

The 8.4 and the 8.25 SE are exact same deck/dimensions, the 8.4 just has the "full" kicks.

DLX does not make a proper 8.25/14.25, which is quite odd*, but the 8.4 is closest thing to it, IMHO. 


*Also really odd they do not make a proper 8.5/14.5.

[DarkPools]

Something else I don't think I've seen anyone mention before....

The 8.4 and the 8.25 SE are exact same deck/dimensions, the 8.4 just has the "full" kicks.

DLX does not make a proper 8.25/14.25, which is quite odd*, but the 8.4 is closest thing to it, IMHO. 


*Also really odd they do not make a proper 8.5/14.5.

I think since Generator/BBS has this shape covered under XYZ brands: Black Label, The Killing Floor, Magenta (when pressed by BBS), etc. DLX probably felt like not repeating that and offering something slightly smaller/different in their 8.5

- Navy Eagle/Eyes/Oval decks
- Tom Knox: 8.5x14.38x32.18 as close to the 8.5x14.5

Growing up DLX was always the brand I looked to for shapes/sizes in between the generic ones from other brands.

I fell in love with their 8.25, 8.18, and 8.38 sizes/shapes when I was 16-23, so I never expected an 8.5/14.5 from them funny enough

[Mbrimson88]

The lack of the REAL 8.25 FULL SE shape in the last few drops is bumming me out..

I saw the Real Ishod "Gonz oval party edition" was still around here, but didn't realise it was from so long ago, Spring Drop 2 2025 as per this catalog:

https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-2025/


The Krooked Eyes DBX board is an 8.25 Full SE, but for anyone not keen on DBX there doesn't seem to be any, even though I thought I had also seen one on There / Unity as well.


The last time I think we talked about this it had been a while too, then the Trolley series came out and maybe one other just after, but that was almost it.

[skatebruh]

I got an 8.06 after seeing that Brad Cromer rides it, and it's my favorite shape. Love the 14.38 wheelbase.

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The lack of the REAL 8.25 FULL SE shape in the last few drops is bumming me out..

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I saw the Real Ishod "Gonz oval party edition" was still around here, but didn't realise it was from so long ago, Spring Drop 2 2025 as per this catalog:

https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-2025/


The Krooked Eyes DBX board is an 8.25 Full SE, but for anyone not keen on DBX there doesn't seem to be any, even though I thought I had also seen one on There / Unity as well.


The last time I think we talked about this it had been a while too, then the Trolley series came out and maybe one other just after, but that was almost it.

Yup, Trolley graphic which admittedly stayed around for a bit, the Gonz Ishod Oval which I'm currently skating my last one and there was a Patrick Praman Stamp/Letter graphic that was really good but is no longer available...I just bought a Krooked 8.25 for my next deck but it has a 14.38wb.

[SwitchBenihana]

I got an 8.06 after seeing that Brad Cromer rides it, and it's my favorite shape. Love the 14.38 wheelbase.

Do you have tiny feet? This shape was always weird to me why not just ride the 8.25 since kick lengths are the same on both.

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I got an 8.06 after seeing that Brad Cromer rides it, and it's my favorite shape. Love the 14.38 wheelbase.

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Do you have tiny feet? This shape was always weird to me why not just ride the 8.25 since kick lengths are the same on both.

I wear a 9.5 US. I have tried the 8.25 before, it’s very similar, but I like 8.06 better. I feel like I have more pop on a narrower board.

[JM]

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I got an 8.06 after seeing that Brad Cromer rides it, and it's my favorite shape. Love the 14.38 wheelbase.

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Do you have tiny feet? This shape was always weird to me why not just ride the 8.25 since kick lengths are the same on both.

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I wear a 9.5 US. I have tried the 8.25 before, it’s very similar, but I like 8.06 better. I feel like I have more pop on a narrower board.

I’m gonna support bruh. I really like the way the decks used to sit only on the balls of the feet when I was running 8” wide decks.

The 8.25 sits on more of the arch of my foot towards the heel, in an uncomfortable spot.  (I have size 12 feet, and do not enjoy where the edge of deck sits on my arch, but for 8.5 it sits further out more on my heel and is more comfy).

8” for flippedty-do skating and just overall easier to pop! (Especially with the smaller, lighter trucks.)

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@Mbrimson88 @Sedition @DarkPools @rikki
And so I don’t have to double post: the measurements for the 8.5x14.38wb are below.

 Taper beginning somewhere between bolt holes confirmed.  The picture that doesn’t show bolt holes is from the middle.

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Something else I don't think I've seen anyone mention before....

The 8.4 and the 8.25 SE are exact same deck/dimensions, the 8.4 just has the "full" kicks.

DLX does not make a proper 8.25/14.25, which is quite odd*, but the 8.4 is closest thing to it, IMHO. 


*Also really odd they do not make a proper 8.5/14.5.

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I think since Generator/BBS has this shape covered under XYZ brands: Black Label, The Killing Floor, Magenta (when pressed by BBS), etc. DLX probably felt like not repeating that and offering something slightly smaller/different in their 8.5

- Navy Eagle/Eyes/Oval decks
- Tom Knox: 8.5x14.38x32.18 as close to the 8.5x14.5

Growing up DLX was always the brand I looked to for shapes/sizes in between the generic ones from other brands.

I fell in love with their 8.25, 8.18, and 8.38 sizes/shapes when I was 16-23, so I never expected an 8.5/14.5 from them funny enough

Their 8.18 boards worked so well for me. Looks like they’re long gone, though.

My last DLX board was an old Anti Hero in that short 8.12 size, Drehobl had a lot of boards in that size I rode, too. They also seemed to have been replaced by another 8.125 that is longer? Bummer.

I tried the full SE 8.06 but didn’t really care for it. Guess the only DLX board that’ll work for me now is the 8.28.

[Mbrimson88]

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Something else I don't think I've seen anyone mention before....

The 8.4 and the 8.25 SE are exact same deck/dimensions, the 8.4 just has the "full" kicks.

DLX does not make a proper 8.25/14.25, which is quite odd*, but the 8.4 is closest thing to it, IMHO. 


*Also really odd they do not make a proper 8.5/14.5.

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I think since Generator/BBS has this shape covered under XYZ brands: Black Label, The Killing Floor, Magenta (when pressed by BBS), etc. DLX probably felt like not repeating that and offering something slightly smaller/different in their 8.5

- Navy Eagle/Eyes/Oval decks
- Tom Knox: 8.5x14.38x32.18 as close to the 8.5x14.5

Growing up DLX was always the brand I looked to for shapes/sizes in between the generic ones from other brands.

I fell in love with their 8.25, 8.18, and 8.38 sizes/shapes when I was 16-23, so I never expected an 8.5/14.5 from them funny enough

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Their 8.18 boards worked so well for me. Looks like they’re long gone, though.

My last DLX board was an old Anti Hero in that short 8.12 size, Drehobl had a lot of boards in that size I rode, too. They also seemed to have been replaced by another 8.125 that is longer? Bummer.

I tried the full SE 8.06 but didn’t really care for it. Guess the only DLX board that’ll work for me now is the 8.28.

The 8.12 shorter shape is still in production, although usually these days you can only find it as the red Real Oval deck.

There are some very rare occurrences of it around though, but you have to know which graphic to search by name, which right this minute I can't think of any.

Funny cause the 8.18 x 31.85 with 14.38 wb used to also be so very popular and was the first DLX board I skated.  I still have some old stock, as well as some setup on the old completes I used to skate, but after a while I ended up liking the 8.12 black eagle shape more, mainly cause the tail was longer on the 8.12, at 6.75 and these days most tails never seem long enough because of that.

Back when boards in 8.25 used to be "big" and almost everything else everyone skated was a hair either side of 8" boards.  Things were more simple then.



* @JM nice pics too!

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i’m sure i’ve asked before, but it’s just being brought up again:

what size was the drehobl krooked that everyone liked? i think @144p referenced it awhile back as well.
anyways, several local (to me) ripper types swore by this shape, way back when.

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Since some of you are talking about my favorite Shape, haven’t seen an 8.4 in a DLX Catalogue in a while..

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i’m sure i’ve asked before, but it’s just being brought up again:

what size was the drehobl krooked that everyone liked? i think @144p referenced it awhile back as well.
anyways, several local (to me) ripper types swore by this shape, way back when.

8.12 x 31.5ish. He had a lot of boards in that size, that’s the one I was talking about above. Every time I’ve skated that one it’s been well above average.

If they kept that one around all the time I’d probably only skate those.

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i’m sure i’ve asked before, but it’s just being brought up again:

what size was the drehobl krooked that everyone liked? i think @144p referenced it awhile back as well.
anyways, several local (to me) ripper types swore by this shape, way back when.

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8.12 x 31.5ish. He had a lot of boards in that size, that’s the one I was talking about above. Every time I’ve skated that one it’s been well above average.

If they kept that one around all the time I’d probably only skate those.

yeah there was enough talk about it that it seemed interesting
8.18 as well (the best setup video ever, maybe, bobby worrest sets one up).

i don’t need to spend too much time thinking about it, but i’ve long thought i’ve been underrating total length…

[fur lined sea]

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=65592.0

Bit of 8.12/8.18 in this old thread. Back when things were simple.

I can’t remember the overall length on the 8.18 but those two sizes worked so much better for me than any 8 or 8.25 DLX board ever has. Those particular DLX boards are the goldilocks zone for me for sure.

[devils acrobat]

I have been skating the 8.12×31.3x14 shape a lot through the last years and I loved everyone of those. Seems to be only available as the real red oval atm. Wish they chose another color for it tho.

[Mbrimson88]

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=65592.0

Bit of 8.12/8.18 in this old thread. Back when things were simple.

I can’t remember the overall length on the 8.18 but those two sizes worked so much better for me than any 8 or 8.25 DLX board ever has. Those particular DLX boards are the goldilocks zone for me for sure.

There are lots of them in old catalogs which are easy to see online, such as Real Skateboards Catalog 2016.

Examples:

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Red oval deck 8.12 x 31.38 with 14.0 wb from the current lineup



Old 8.12 short size board, 31.06 with 13.8 wheelbase, although I don't know if it really was that short, 31.25 in other listings like the one below



Old 8.18 x 31.85 with 14.38 wheelbase, although a lot of these were listed as 31.84 in length, all still 14.38 wb.




A couple more from another catalog:

[144p]

Interesting to see only 2 8.12’s by Dlx in general. And last time I looked none from Krooked. The antihero eagle is 32 long

[SwitchBenihana]

So the 8.25x14.38 is like 31.9, yet the 8.125x14.25 is 32. Makes total sense.

Does the 8.125 measure true to size or is it wider as well like many DLX decks? It seems very close to the 8.25 Full SE dimensions.

[spanyard]

Interesting to see only 2 8.12’s by Dlx in general. And last time I looked none from Krooked. The antihero eagle is 32 long

As a disciple of the DLX 8.12 sect, I can say that Krooked has generally never been short wheelbase-friendly for us short kings/queens....