DLX Shapes

[JM]

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Interesting to see only 2 8.12’s by Dlx in general. And last time I looked none from Krooked. The antihero eagle is 32 long

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As a disciple of the DLX 8.12 sect, I can say that Krooked has generally never been short wheelbase-friendly for us short kings/queens....

THERE seems to also have the short WB covered, too.

[Mbrimson88]

So the 8.25x14.38 is like 31.9, yet the 8.125x14.25 is 32. Makes total sense.

Does the 8.125 measure true to size or is it wider as well like many DLX decks? It seems very close to the 8.25 Full SE dimensions.

Both 8.12 shapes were definitely 8.12 or 8.125 in width = 8 and 1/8 which was quite different to the 8.25 options, which were always 8.3 or so.  Even the 8.06 / 8.0X options were still very close to or bang on 8" so the 8.12 and 8.18 were right in the middle, which is why I might have been more keen on them with Indy Stage 9 139s, old Thunder Hi 147s or other 8" trucks, which fit well.

The black eagle has a 6.75 tail, which is why I liked it so much, quite pointy compared to most boards, but that longer tail would give me an extra month or so of wear, as well as being easier for blunt variations / transition skating in general.

Most other board shapes have varying tail lengths, but 6.5 is pretty much average for the smaller boards, up to around 8.5 after which they get a bit longer for the bigger and longer shapes.


The board shapes from 2003 to 2015 or so were fairly consistent, with not a lot of change going on - many 8.1 variants, but then the FULL shapes started to come in and everything got bigger and longer for a bit, then Full SE shapes, so things started to get shorter again.


Krooked used to have the short shape in a lot of drops, as a friend skated them, but they also came out on Antihero a bit too, as per the pic of the 8.12 above.  I don't know when they did the last one, besides the red oval, but there were a few around maybe a couple of years ago.  I still have a few.

[Mbrimson88]

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Interesting to see only 2 8.12’s by Dlx in general. And last time I looked none from Krooked. The antihero eagle is 32 long

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As a disciple of the DLX 8.12 sect, I can say that Krooked has generally never been short wheelbase-friendly for us short kings/queens....

So I never really thought about it, but there have been at least three 8.12 shapes.


Black eagle, 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wheelbase which is a standard board for twenty or more years.

Real red Oval, 8.12 x 31.38 with 14.0 wb from the current lineup

Then the old 8.12 x 31.25 with 13.87 wb / shorter shape as per the board I took this sticker off, which there were quite a few back in the day as well, on AH in a few one off / pro graphics and Krooked Drehobl, both as per last page with old catalog pics.  They came out on Real too, but not as often.


I went and took a couple of pics of size stickers for you guys.

This was from a Krooked board back some time in the past, but I guess it doesn't help anyone in the present though.





This one too, just to add them in here for people to see:

[rikki]

The Black Eagle (8.125 x 14.25) is probably my favorite shape at the moment. A bit hard to come by these days at least in my local area, unfortunately.

[Mbrimson88]

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Re 8.12 shapes, make that four different ones now.

Never seen this before or again since, so it most likely was the one off that just didn't quite hit, but anyway, there is another one from the Fall 2015 catalog.  Graphics were pretty special too, with slick ends.

8.12 x 31.65

[JM]

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Re 8.12 shapes, make that four different ones now.

Never seen this before or again since, so it most likely was the one off that just didn't quite hit, but anyway, there is another one from the Fall 2015 catalog.  Graphics were pretty special too, with slick ends.

8.12 x 31.65

“Large”.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Sedition]

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Re 8.12 shapes, make that four different ones now.

Never seen this before or again since, so it most likely was the one off that just didn't quite hit, but anyway, there is another one from the Fall 2015 catalog.  Graphics were pretty special too, with slick ends.

8.12 x 31.65

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“Large”.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

The eagles used to be named by size, too. If I recall the grey was "Large" and blue/8.5 was "Extra Large".

[JM]

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Re 8.12 shapes, make that four different ones now.

Never seen this before or again since, so it most likely was the one off that just didn't quite hit, but anyway, there is another one from the Fall 2015 catalog.  Graphics were pretty special too, with slick ends.

8.12 x 31.65

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“Large”.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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The eagles used to be named by size, too. If I recall the grey was "Large" and blue/8.5 was "Extra Large".

Oh yeah that’s right! Barely remember that.

It’s just funny the board size inflation. I remember thinking my 8” board was big compared to my 7.63 and 7.75 friends in late 90’s.

The 8.125 bold zero, well that was just outright stupid big.

[144p]

I always want to measure
My old decks to see wb,tail/nose and compare. I think I like a longer tail but does it help me skate better?
I skated the Drehobl 8.12 with 13.87 wb for a while and my friends all thought my board looked ridiculous back then. I have a pile of broken decks, gonna see if there is one in there.
I have been skating a boat (9.02 antihero) because I assumed my flipping days were gone but I set up 8.3 and surprised myself with a few tricks I haven’t done in ages.
Maybe this is the tipping point.

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I always want to measure
My old decks to see wb,tail/nose and compare. I think I like a longer tail but does it help me skate better?
I skated the Drehobl 8.12 with 13.87 wb for a while and my friends all thought my board looked ridiculous back then. I have a pile of broken decks, gonna see if there is one in there.
I have been skating a boat (9.02 antihero) because I assumed my flipping days were gone but I set up 8.3 and surprised myself with a few tricks I haven’t done in ages.
Maybe this is the tipping point.

i’m interested in that drehobl shape. several of the style guys in the early 2k were skating that setup, with indy’s, in my area.

[144p]

Ok, measured holding tape
Measure down 31.75, straight across 31.5
7 nose 6.75 tail 13.875 wb

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Ok, measured holding tape
Measure down 31.75, straight across 31.5
7 nose 6.75 tail 13.875 wb

thanks man, you are the sweetest

[spanyard]

Ok, measured holding tape
Measure down 31.75, straight across 31.5
7 nose 6.75 tail 13.875 wb

Dream Dimensions.

[144p]

In my head the shape seemed so full, wider nose and tail. I couldn’t be more wrong. We have an 8.3 true fit at the shop that’s almost this board, gonna get it and see what’s up.

[Mbrimson88]

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Re 8.12 shapes, make that four different ones now.

Never seen this before or again since, so it most likely was the one off that just didn't quite hit, but anyway, there is another one from the Fall 2015 catalog.  Graphics were pretty special too, with slick ends.

8.12 x 31.65

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“Large”.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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The eagles used to be named by size, too. If I recall the grey was "Large" and blue/8.5 was "Extra Large".

For sure!

Even though there were bigger boards now and then, they were still classed as XL or XXL if it was any bigger than that, all still under 9" though.

I think there was a Gonz or an AH which was XXXXL at 9.3 or something, maybe just to be "funny" more than anything else, but it was pretty rare to get boards much bigger than 8.25 with the occasional shaped or barney or whatever else came out every so often.

In my head the shape seemed so full, wider nose and tail. I couldn’t be more wrong. We have an 8.3 true fit at the shop that’s almost this board, gonna get it and see what’s up.

They were such different times back then - 20 plus years ago might be a bit of a ride, but getting on some of the old 8.12 black eagles I still have set up, or other 8.18 boards, they sure seem fairly light and easy to throw around, compared to some of the bigger more fun type setups I am usually on now.

Even setting up one of those 8.28 boards, the thing is so small and so easy to do almost anything on, as is the Real 8.25 short, but I don't think I would ever really ride them for more than just a bit of fun here and there now.  The shorter wheelbase is the main thing that helps with all the flips and spins, or so it would seem, those being 14.1 on the 8.28 and 14.0 on the 8.25 short board.

Interested to hear how you go on any other boards you might try too, hopefully without going too deep into it and then wondering if your usual setup is a bit too big or anything else.

[rikki]

The 8.25 x 31.5 shape is a fun one, but ultimately it's just too short for basically anything but flatground and jivy little quarter foolery.

[GardenSkater77]

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Re 8.12 shapes, make that four different ones now.

Never seen this before or again since, so it most likely was the one off that just didn't quite hit, but anyway, there is another one from the Fall 2015 catalog.  Graphics were pretty special too, with slick ends.

8.12 x 31.65

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“Large”.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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The eagles used to be named by size, too. If I recall the grey was "Large" and blue/8.5 was "Extra Large".

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For sure!

Even though there were bigger boards now and then, they were still classed as XL or XXL if it was any bigger than that, all still under 9" though.

I think there was a Gonz or an AH which was XXXXL at 9.3 or something, maybe just to be "funny" more than anything else, but it was pretty rare to get boards much bigger than 8.25 with the occasional shaped or barney or whatever else came out every so often.

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In my head the shape seemed so full, wider nose and tail. I couldn’t be more wrong. We have an 8.3 true fit at the shop that’s almost this board, gonna get it and see what’s up.

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They were such different times back then - 20 plus years ago might be a bit of a ride, but getting on some of the old 8.12 black eagles I still have set up, or other 8.18 boards, they sure seem fairly light and easy to throw around, compared to some of the bigger more fun type setups I am usually on now.

Even setting up one of those 8.28 boards, the thing is so small and so easy to do almost anything on, as is the Real 8.25 short, but I don't think I would ever really ride them for more than just a bit of fun here and there now.  The shorter wheelbase is the main thing that helps with all the flips and spins, or so it would seem, those being 14.1 on the 8.28 and 14.0 on the 8.25 short board.

Interested to hear how you go on any other boards you might try too, hopefully without going too deep into it and then wondering if your usual setup is a bit too big or anything else.

I am actually riding the DLX 9.3 right now. Chico must have got permission to use the mold for a limited run. He advertised the wheelbase at 14.5 but when it showed up it was 15.5. It’s 33.5” long. It was an adjustment when I got it and I used Indy baseplates to drill the holes back which made a big difference because the board felt really heavy in the front with the 15.5” wheelbase. Ronnie Sandoval used the mold for his pro deck about 4 years ago but not recently. I would definitely cop another if I saw one because it is so much different to skate ramp with. I’m sure it’s sick in pools.


Note: those are 169s for context. The rear of the deck is approximately 8.75 which gives a quicker carve than just an even width down the length.

[144p]

They were such different times back then - 20 plus years ago might be a bit of a ride, but getting on some of the old 8.12 black eagles I still have set up, or other 8.18 boards, they sure seem fairly light and easy to throw around, compared to some of the bigger more fun type setups I am usually on now.

Even setting up one of those 8.28 boards, the thing is so small and so easy to do almost anything on, as is the Real 8.25 short, but I don't think I would ever really ride them for more than just a bit of fun here and there now.  The shorter wheelbase is the main thing that helps with all the flips and spins, or so it would seem, those being 14.1 on the 8.28 and 14.0 on the 8.25 short board.

Interested to hear how you go on any other boards you might try too, hopefully without going too deep into it and then wondering if your usual setup is a bit too big or anything else.

I’m all over the place with sizes. My buddies all ride 9 popsicles so I just adapted and leaned heavy into slappies and small transition. I also skated the gonz sweatpants 9.81 a lot and the ba 9.25 and polar 1991 9.25 as well. I think I have 6 or so setups and most are boats. But I miss being more nimble and actually
Landing more tricks that get off the ground.

[texasplant]

Ok, measured holding tape
Measure down 31.75, straight across 31.5
7 nose 6.75 tail 13.875 wb

It’s crazy to me that this is the shape that drehobl skated, I skate similar stuff and really enjoy his approach to skating and I sometimes find even 8.5/14.25 too small. Hes a much bigger dude than I am too.

Maybe there’s something to it, I’m curious now since he’s one of my all time favourites.

[Mbrimson88]

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Ok, measured holding tape
Measure down 31.75, straight across 31.5
7 nose 6.75 tail 13.875 wb

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It’s crazy to me that this is the shape that drehobl skated, I skate similar stuff and really enjoy his approach to skating and I sometimes find even 8.5/14.25 too small. Hes a much bigger dude than I am too.

Maybe there’s something to it, I’m curious now since he’s one of my all time favourites.

I recall seeing interviews and other things with him saying he was riding a longer wheelbase board for a while, especially the China banks spot and board slide on the top of it, then went back and was on a shorter wheelbase and couldn't do it again, or something like that.

Quite possibly got that wrong, but I think that was how it went anyway.

When they all came out to Australia on a few tours in the 90s, I think he gave his whole board to someone and I ended up with the Venture trucks off it after they were skated to death, but I do seem to recall his board was like a short stubby looking thing when I saw it.  That was back before any of this stuff, when he was still on Think.

He didn't strike me as very tall at all, just a pretty short guy like most of those pro dudes at the time, so I think that sort of board worked well for him.


Then again when he was out on the Vox tour and was at the Fairfield demo, everybody standing around talking afterwards, Eman was the shortest, Darren Navarrette was the tallest, with everyone else more in the middle, but most more on the shorter side, at least from what I recall, maybe around a similar height to Peter Hewitt, who is a pretty short guy.

Weird memories of that event, compared to seeing other tours, demos or whatever.


Back to board sizes, his more recent shape was a bigger board that had double drilled wheelbase option, roughly 9.25 with 14.0 or 14.5 wb so he could go from the shorter wb for smaller stuff to longer wb for bigger stuff, or at least that is what I seem to recall.

https://www.35thave.com/shop/c/p/Krooked-Dan-Drehobl-Mystic-2-925-x-32-x34814752.htm

That shape has been out on a few other graphics more recently, There or Unity I think, but the Krooked board stopped a few years ago now.

One of the guys I know has been riding that shape for a while now, but it has been harder to get for him in recent years.

* This one:

[texasplant]

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Ok, measured holding tape
Measure down 31.75, straight across 31.5
7 nose 6.75 tail 13.875 wb

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It’s crazy to me that this is the shape that drehobl skated, I skate similar stuff and really enjoy his approach to skating and I sometimes find even 8.5/14.25 too small. Hes a much bigger dude than I am too.

Maybe there’s something to it, I’m curious now since he’s one of my all time favourites.

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I recall seeing interviews and other things with him saying he was riding a longer wheelbase board for a while, especially the China banks spot and board slide on the top of it, then went back and was on a shorter wheelbase and couldn't do it again, or something like that.

Quite possibly got that wrong, but I think that was how it went anyway.

When they all came out to Australia on a few tours in the 90s, I think he gave his whole board to someone and I ended up with the Venture trucks off it after they were skated to death, but I do seem to recall his board was like a short stubby looking thing when I saw it.  That was back before any of this stuff, when he was still on Think.

He didn't strike me as very tall at all, just a pretty short guy like most of those pro dudes at the time, so I think that sort of board worked well for him.


Then again when he was out on the Vox tour and was at the Fairfield demo, everybody standing around talking afterwards, Eman was the shortest, Darren Navarrette was the tallest, with everyone else more in the middle, but most more on the shorter side, at least from what I recall, maybe around a similar height to Peter Hewitt, who is a pretty short guy.

Weird memories of that event, compared to seeing other tours, demos or whatever.


Back to board sizes, his more recent shape was a bigger board that had double drilled wheelbase option, roughly 9.25 with 14.0 or 14.5 wb so he could go from the shorter wb for smaller stuff to longer wb for bigger stuff, or at least that is what I seem to recall.

https://www.35thave.com/shop/c/p/Krooked-Dan-Drehobl-Mystic-2-925-x-32-x34814752.htm

That shape has been out on a few other graphics more recently, There or Unity I think, but the Krooked board stopped a few years ago now.

One of the guys I know has been riding that shape for a while now, but it has been harder to get for him in recent years.

Yeah I definitely remember that interview!

I've been on a bit of a binge watching all the Drehobl parts lately and have been so inspired, so I'm stoked that old board popped up in here because I didn't realise it was so short at the same.

Now I'm feeling a very strong urge to try the DLX true fit 8.25 even though historically I've much bigger boards. Thought I had settled on the blue eagles but the madness strikes again...

[Mbrimson88]

Yeah I definitely remember that interview!

I've been on a bit of a binge watching all the Drehobl parts lately and have been so inspired, so I'm stoked that old board popped up in here because I didn't realise it was so short at the same.

Now I'm feeling a very strong urge to try the DLX true fit 8.25 even though historically I've much bigger boards. Thought I had settled on the blue eagles but the madness strikes again...

I have seen a few True Fit boards, but never actually had one, or really had a moment to stand on one to feel out the overall length, but as per a few other boards, once I got trucks on it, I could really feel how short they were.

Of all of them, I think the 8.38 True Fit might be the most fun, but I haven't seen one I am willing to get yet.


Been messing round with a few others and the 8.28 board seems to be a really good "in between" size, at 8.25 (8.3) x 31.7 with 14.1 wb, at least it still works really well without being too short or small, which is what I feel those True Fit boards might feel like, especially if they are made on a shorter mold, but that might just be me being a bit paranoid about the overall length of flat of any board, compared to the wheelbase.  I have it on forged Thunder 148s with 50 mm wheels and it is a very nicely balanced ride.

By comparison the Real "Tropical" which is the 8.25 Short is 8.25 x 31.9 with 14.0 wb and it actually feels like it is a touch too short in the wheelbase for the mold, but with the longer kicks, it works well on Venture forged 5.6 with small wheels, which was the preferred setup of that shape for someone else who had a hand in doing his own shape via DLX for a whlie.  It is not the Easy Rider mold, but still was the shape that the newer board was based off, I think.

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i want to try the drehobl krooked shape that had the very short overall length, 31.25 ish….


i had a bad time with my one true fit experience.


i had a doomsayers 8.28 right when they came out, and it was one of the best decks ive ever had. this is like 10 years ago, and that could have a lot to do with it. ha. i had a few different 8.25s in a row and was obsessing about indy’s: rotating 139s, 144s, and 159s. because i was, and still is, so dumb.
on topic, the 8.28 was lovely: short enough to flip, big enough to feel comfortable on going down the sidewalk

[Sedition]

...I also skated the gonz sweatpants 9.81 a lot...

That is fun deck. Not had one in awhile, But was actually eyeing one of the new Gonz versions the shop today. What size trucks did you run on yours?

[144p]

I preferred 169’s but rode it with venture 6.1’s as well as 159’s. I’m not super concerned with trucks fitting and prefer the wider trucks for curbs.

[Sedition]

I preferred 169’s but rode it with venture 6.1’s as well as 159’s. I’m not super concerned with trucks fitting and prefer the wider trucks for curbs.

169s were what I had on it, too. Ran 159s for a bit, but they were a tad too "magic carpet" up-front for me.

[Mbrimson88]

i want to try the drehobl krooked shape that had the very short overall length, 31.25 ish….


i had a bad time with my one true fit experience.


i had a doomsayers 8.28 right when they came out, and it was one of the best decks ive ever had. this is like 10 years ago, and that could have a lot to do with it. ha. i had a few different 8.25s in a row and was obsessing about indy’s: rotating 139s, 144s, and 159s. because i was, and still is, so dumb.
on topic, the 8.28 was lovely: short enough to flip, big enough to feel comfortable on going down the sidewalk

I feel like the Doomsayers 8.28 is almost, not quite, but almost the same as the DLX 8.28.

The Doomsayers board might have been a little longer, more like 32, rather than the DLX 31.7, when I checked, but yes that was one board that one guy had and could never get any more when Doomsayers changed woodshop - this one was BBS and bright orange stain with Becky bottle in paper bag graphic.

Not trying to sell the DLX 8.28 but I am surprised how easy it feels, not too steep or mellow, right dimensions for the wheelbase, mold, shape, etc.

I know I had seen and had one before I passed on to someone else because I just didn't want a shorter smaller board - had just set up another 8.38 with 14.5 wb at the time - but I can appreciate this shape and some others now, with my T-II trucks and drilling in Indy and Venture baseplates too, where shorter wheelbases are easier for a lot of smaller stuff, so this is one board I haven't need to mess with at all to make the deck, the trucks or the setup as a whole work well.