for sure, monty, you a real role model.
When did I say anything about being a role model ? or wanting to be one .
if you're eager to "do something good" why not join the french foreign legion. then again there's probably too many north-african/arabic people in there for you to feel comfortable.
Why join the French foreign legion ? . France doesnt really follow the military direction of USA , NZ , AUS , UK , SWE or GER . Different operations , different language and different budget . Where is the French Foreign legion operation now ? I dont even know . Are they conducting any operations against ISIS now ?
Why would I have a problem with north African / Arabic people ? and what % of the French Foreign legion are north African / Arabic
Are the French foreign legion doing something good ? give me examples
i imagine you playing microsoft flight simulator so you can apply for remote controlling drones so you can bomb housing and hospitals,
Name one coalition country who is actively targeting civilian housing ( without there being a person of interest there ) and hospitals
then play the butthurt victim when these people flee the country or join the various terrorist groups out of a grudge against the bombings? then whine around how sweden is missing housing and hospitals for real swedes.
Kinda like you are playing the butthurt victim now ? Hamas in Palestine is not a democratical elected terrorist organisation that is attacking Israel ? The Taliban in Afghanistan are not dangerous and bomb schools , terrorizes the population in Afghanistan ? AQ is not a dangerous terror organisation ? ISIS is not a horrible terrorist organisation ?
We should just leave all these groups keep on keeping on ?
Afghanistan would never have been attacked by the USA if the taliban and AQ were not there
What did Belgium do to deserve the bombing from ISIS ? how many politicians or military personnel died in the attack ?
you're a cook, you could make a difference if you use your knowledge to come up with a plan how to feed all these people effectively for low cost and to cover basic nutritional needs. you could advocate that people don't throw away good food and take it to shelters instead if they don't consume it.
Im a chef , not a cook . Its true I could be involved in food programs for the "refugees " but my political views now is that they shouldnt even be here in the first place . And to be fair I havent really been working in places even close to that . I propose military intervention is the correct answer . So making some food is not the answer
the reason not many people in this thread say that this is a super beneficial thing for europe is because most people have a more grounded view on it than you. most people arguing with you see the same problems, but your bias against refugees and basically anything that you perceive as sjw policy(any progressive view you don't agree on) makes you cherry pick the most gruesome stories. you act like that stuff happens everyday and that's not true. statistically, in germany there are far more attacks on refugees by locals than vice versa. the beneficial
part about this happening will only be clear after the fact, that means we will see it maybe two or three decades from now on, depending on how successful integration will be or it will be WWIII and this time it's the muslims instead of jews and whole europe instead of third reich.
So they see the same problems as me but refuse to say them , instead decide to call me a nazi and racist . I acknowledge the problems and say them out , show them with sources , news articles and real views . Yet Im not the grounded one ?
Just cause gang rapes , murders and sexual assault dont happen every day doesnt make it less gruesome . These things happen and are a consequence of the people we are currently taking into Europe
Ive also said multiple times that the crimes of the far right . The hate marches , the assaults the burning of refugee centres further proves my point . These are all horrible illegal actions that show how much more and more people are against the refugee influx . The political far right is on the rise with all its horror . Yet you guys pretend things are fine
Integration of past and current refugees / immigrants is a huge failure , and the far right and extreme right is on the rise . Yet you guys suggest taking in more refugees into Europe ...
And I said in the past post . Jewish refugees during WW2 didnt shoot up concerts , blow themselves up at airports . Go into schools with children or playgrounds and gun them down and then blow themselves up
I dont remember seeing any news stories in history books about Jewish refugees doing mass sexual assaults on 1000s of women on new years nights or murdering fellow jews in refugee centres
yet i can see what the shopkeeper did was really cool. i don't understand why this seems to be an example for you of the dangers of islam. clearly the murderer is a psychopath that will spend hopefully most if not the rest of his life in jail. as much as you want it but fundamentalist psychos are not the norm amongst the muslim populace. the case is not a metaphor for violent islam wins over peaceful islam.
Its a example of a refugee / immigrant coming to Europe , maybe getting his shit together from maybe nothing to becoming a successfully business man , with a nice and happy family . integrating into the UK society . Breaking down religious berries and being murdered by a fellow Muslim
What makes the attacker a psychopath ? do you think he will get jail or going to a mental hospital . Are all ISIS , AQ and Taliban psychopaths ? or are they people with another view then alot of muslims ? with different political views ? Thousands of people living in Europe and North America have traveld to Syria and Iraq to join ISIS . Are you suggesting all these people broke out of the mental hospital to join ISIS ?
if we would treat christianity the same way we treat islam,
millions of europeans should have renounced christianity back in 2012 when the most gruesome man in the world was christian fanatic joseph kony.
We treat Christians much worse then we treat Muslims . We have has multiple trails against the church , exposing their crimes . We constantly make fun of Jesus , god and Christianity . Yet every time somebody makes fun of Islam or writes a book about Islam or draw a picture of Mohammed people need body guards . Things blow up or there are mass shootings
When was the last mass shooting or suicide bombing after a " Draw Jesus " contest ?
obviously most of the muslim world and most muslim leaders condemn violence and terror.
They do ? show me some examples of Muslim world leaders condemning violence . Im pretty sure I can show how the world leader in that country has laws that permit honor killings , whippings , death penalty and many other fucked up laws anti women and press freedom
the difference seems to be that in general their sincerity is questioned by islamophobes that claim to have a better understanding(i.e. cigarettebeer) of a faith and culture than the people living it itself. this kind of ignorance and arrogance will lead to more hostility in the long run imo. if some dipshit that can't barely handle a microwave came to your kitchen straight talking shit about how you handle your knives wrong you'd think that dude is a clown. to me all these non-muslims claiming to know about real islam are clowns.
In some ways you are right . Others wrong . There is a hypocrisy in religion today . Take Christians today most of them cherry pick parts from the new testament and the old testament to confirm their views and to fit their religion . Take hateful Christians today that say homosexuality is a sin based on the old testament yet ignore other parts of the old testament to fit their views like getting tattoos or wearing diffrent kinds of cloth together . Or slave owner ship
There are laws in the quran that say people who turn away from Islam should be killed . Now the question is who is the real muslim ? the one who obeys a stupid law like that ? or the one who thinks it crazy ?
If you want we can make a thread about all the crazy shit in the bible and quran . Ive read the bible 2 times so I know alot about it
ikobrakai never said germany is a nazi state, i take it he implied your views are more in line with nazi germany than any current country.
Well I said I would have joined the German army at 17 . So unless ikobrakai thinks I was born in 1925 , Nazi germany has no relevance
Your next points about Hussein , Mussolini and Hitler are way off . I said OUT of power . Not how they took power . What Im sayin is to defeat evil you have to fight it with violence . I think one of the few times a none violence campaign worked was Ghandi in India . And that only worked cause the UK didnt feel like killing him and his political party
So thats 1 out of billions incidents in the world through history . It would be nice if we can talk things through with ISIS and show them how what they are doing is wrong , but they wont change so we have to wipe them out
and before you ask me what i have done: basically nothing, i have no practical skills and most my jobs were concerned with problem solving with clients and customers--->my job is thinking and talking. i basically have no medical skills, i suck at carpentry, i only speak two languages fluently and i'm only good at making money with my conversational skills. i also usually work 40-50hours a week. so yeah, i just gave away lots of stuff i don't use anymore, mostly clothes, an old cellphone, backpacks and such. then again i'm really more kind of apathetic to the situation in terms of how my views on the world have changed, because they have not. if i was asked if we should let millions of refugees in here i'd say depends, sounds dumb tho in general. well history apparently doesn't give a shit about what you or me thinks and because we can't stop it, we have to deal with it, preferably in a humane manner.
Im not here to call you out frank , seems you donated and paid taxes . Thats enough for some people and more then others have done . I have no argument with you and Im not pissed off with you . We are just having a discussion . Im not one to call out people when they are not calling me out to start with
We do not have to take it though we can vote , pay taxes , donate , join charity organisations . become a politician , cop , military . There are things we can do if you care enough about it