New Balance # containment thread

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[Sk.A.T.A.N]

I have 2 pairs of the shoes. 3 of them are normally orientated. I literally have 3 examples in hand of how the shoe is supposed to be. Slappers like telling people how shit is when they really aren’t in a position to do so.

It’s not aligned, period. Now I’ll take photos to show why.

Below example is how the material is aligned at on the outer side edge at the heel on a properly aligned shoe.



Below example is the misaligned shoe where the material is pulled too far back. Notice how there is less space at the heel stitch. This orientation causes the entire shoe to be misaligned on both sides which in turn effects the lace alignment.



Furthermore, I notice this stuff because my job literally requires me to function with a high level of visual scrutiny. This wasn’t subtle when lacing.

They aren't in position to do so ahahahahahahahah
First, you sent a shitty ass boomer picture talking about misaligned laces with NO LACES in sight where the holes looked reasonably lined-up and it took me 30 secs to prove that you're reaching.

And guess what, get off your high horse, I have almost a decade of experience into footwear and that's a perfectly acceptable level of discrepancy in shoe assembly. it's within tolerances of shoe making, there's a human gluing that upper to the sole unit with only a few reference points,  sometimes they come perfect, sometimes they're a few millimetres off, cause in the end of the day you're buying some cheap ass mass produced skate shoes and not fucking Italian made Prada's.

Is your job title to be a bitch ass?

[Mongo Lloyd]

Bro, I know who you are! I’ve been championing your designs since before you got your foothold in the industry on here!

That’s why you of all people should have been able to tell (with your expertise) that the orientation is off. I literally have 3 pairs of 600’s chilling in my room. 5 of the shoes are properly orientated, 1 is not. It’s is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, as they’re going to be skated regardless.

Yes, things are never perfect in mass produced items, but these perhaps shouldn’t have made it past quality control as things are clearly off. Whether or not that is within an allowable margin of error that is acceptable, well that sort of depends on the consumer, no? Rothco even aluded to the fact that NB will be looking to tighten up QC in the future.

Lastly, I’m not going to kiss your ass just because you draw shoes, when you couldn’t even tell from a photo (as hastily as it was taken) that things are off. It’s probably a good thing you just design and don’t partake in quality control, as that would be a fucking disaster for Adidas.

[kintetsubuffaloes]

Bro, I know who you are! I’ve been championing your designs since before you got your foothold in the industry on here!

That’s why you of all people should have been able to tell (with your expertise) that the orientation is off. I literally have 3 pairs of 600’s chilling in my room. 5 of the shoes are properly orientated, 1 is not. It’s is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, as they’re going to be skated regardless.

Yes, things are never perfect in mass produced items, but these perhaps shouldn’t have made it past quality control as things are clearly off. Whether or not that is within an allowable margin of error that is acceptable, well that sort of depends on the consumer, no? Rothco even aluded to the fact that NB will be looking to tighten up QC in the future.

Lastly, I’m not going to kiss your ass just because you draw shoes, when you couldn’t even tell from a photo (as hastily as it was taken) that things are off. It’s probably a good thing you just design and don’t partake in quality control, as that would be a fucking disaster for Adidas.

this is not talked about enough, but NB sizing has been inconsistent on some releases. not to mention they've had production issues, not making entire sizes.

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I have 2 pairs of the shoes. 3 of them are normally orientated. I literally have 3 examples in hand of how the shoe is supposed to be. Slappers like telling people how shit is when they really aren’t in a position to do so.

It’s not aligned, period. Now I’ll take photos to show why.

Below example is how the material is aligned at on the outer side edge at the heel on a properly aligned shoe.



Below example is the misaligned shoe where the material is pulled too far back. Notice how there is less space at the heel stitch. This orientation causes the entire shoe to be misaligned on both sides which in turn effects the lace alignment.



Furthermore, I notice this stuff because my job literally requires me to function with a high level of visual scrutiny. This wasn’t subtle when lacing.

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They aren't in position to do so ahahahahahahahah
First, you sent a shitty ass boomer picture talking about misaligned laces with NO LACES in sight where the holes looked reasonably lined-up and it took me 30 secs to prove that you're reaching.

And guess what, get off your high horse, I have almost a decade of experience into footwear and that's a perfectly acceptable level of discrepancy in shoe assembly. it's within tolerances of shoe making, there's a human gluing that upper to the sole unit with only a few reference points,  sometimes they come perfect, sometimes they're a few millimetres off, cause in the end of the day you're buying some cheap ass mass produced skate shoes and not fucking Italian made Prada's.

Is your job title to be a bitch ass?

if someone has an issue with something they've bought, they've got the right to bring it up. no reason for you to act like that. it's unbecoming. maybe you need to take lessons in politeness.

[Mongo Lloyd]

Yeah, the sizing is all over the map, as I mentioned my issues with the 933 months ago ITT (which I caught a bunch of shit for here).

That, and the leather models seemingly fitting tighter.

There is also many inconsistencies in toe shape that varies shoe to shoe (often in the same model). Sometimes they’re more pointed, other times more squared off.

I think with owning some high double digit amounts of pairs of NB# that I’m pretty qualified to make these observations.

[Sk.A.T.A.N]

Bro, I know who you are! I’ve been championing your designs since before you got your foothold in the industry on here!

That’s why you of all people should have been able to tell (with your expertise) that the orientation is off. I literally have 3 pairs of 600’s chilling in my room. 5 of the shoes are properly orientated, 1 is not. It’s is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, as they’re going to be skated regardless.

Yes, things are never perfect in mass produced items, but these perhaps shouldn’t have made it past quality control as things are clearly off. Whether or not that is within an allowable margin of error that is acceptable, well that sort of depends on the consumer, no? Rothco even aluded to the fact that NB will be looking to tighten up QC in the future.

Lastly, I’m not going to kiss your ass just because you draw shoes, when you couldn’t even tell from a photo (as hastily as it was taken) that things are off. It’s probably a good thing you just design and don’t partake in quality control, as that would be a fucking disaster for Adidas.

Thanks for liking my designs (and for the kook  ) and no, you don’t need to kiss my ass. What I’m telling you is that those discrepancies happen all the time, in every brand, and would go past QC because it’s not egregiously visible like you said. Literally no one understood your point at first cause no one saw what you’re talking about. Your later pics made it more obvious but again, nothing that would cause a stir.

Jesus H Christ, and I get a tear in the sole stitch on the very first trick (a shitty fakie Ollie).

What’s going on here?

Like, you’re literally skating a pair of shoes with stitching at the toes and then complains the stitching breaks. Like should they make it out of adamantium thread!?

I can just tell you’re either ocd or a terminally nitpicker and I’m glad I don’t do either quality control or costumer service, I would have an aneurism on the daily.

[Mongo Lloyd]

I am actually OCD. So you are correct, I do own that 

I’ve literally never had a shoe’s sole stitch rip on the very first trick (that isn’t an actual flip trick). Usually it’s something that happens relatively quickly though, as my go to is Tre flips.

Was just kinda more or less getting a chuckle at my predicament than anything.

Back to the alignment issue. It looks to be over a .25” in
Length out of alignment (without properly measuring), so over 6.35mm. Again, it was visible to me right away out of the box. Not something I’d think would have, or should have left the factory. Especially given that the other 5 are pretty consistent, and perhaps the other 2 pairs I have in bins in the basement are likely consistent as well.

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[Sk.A.T.A.N]

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Slappers like telling people how shit is when they really aren’t in a position to do so.

Furthermore, I notice this stuff because my job literally requires me to function with a high level of visual scrutiny. This wasn’t subtle when lacing.

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if someone has an issue with something they've bought, they've got the right to bring it up. no reason for you to act like that. it's unbecoming. maybe you need to take lessons in politeness.

You’re absolutely right, they do have the right to voice it, but maybe make it clear first… it’s like complaining about someone crashing into your car and taking a blurry pic where no one can see the damage, then making condescending claims and saying that we must be blind, to then end up actually just being a bumper scratch.

…and I am sorry sir if I offended you with my bad manners  :'(

[Mongo Lloyd]

Idk man, it’s pretty noticeable even in my shitty hastily taken pic.

Tbf though things being straight and straight lines is a big part of my profession, so my eye is likely trained to pick up on those things.

My grievance wasn’t with you so much as often times members on here try to tell individuals how their own business is. It’s such a common occurrence, and it irritates the piss out of me.

[kickbacktail]

I swear every time I check in on this thread it’s just people arguing.

[DarkPools]

I kinda regret asking now hahah! I was genuinely curious because it's not perceptibly obvious without laces on those 600s in that first photo.

I spend time inspecting all the finer details of most shoes I buy because shoe designs are fucking sick. The craftsmanship & creativity blended together to be a piece of art & function is  rad. Cool seeing what people come up with, tbh

There's always a margin of error, machine or handmade with shoes. Thankfully,  a slight lace misalignment doesn't change anything drastic for a shoe. At least it never has for me in the past. Kinda sucks some of us decided to be hostile over this 😕

[Mongo Lloyd]

All is good! My first pic wasn’t the best because I was lacing them up to go out and skate.

Misaligned eyelets isn’t a huge functional issue, but one of the goofier flaws I’ve seen in a pair of NB’s I’ve purchased. The worst I have received is a shoe with improperly “punched” eyelets, to the point that the laces didn’t wanna pull through. 

[Atiba Applebum]

Curious how that Tiago looks irl.   If it’s more tan than yellow that’s a top shoe.   

[HugeBodBoyle]

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Curious how that Tiago looks irl.   If it’s more tan than yellow that’s a top shoe.

That predominantly black 480 looks GOOOOOOOOOD.

[marcusbutler]

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Curious how that Tiago looks irl.   If it’s more tan than yellow that’s a top shoe.

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That predominantly black 480 looks GOOOOOOOOOD.

agree! it fucks!

[Mongo Lloyd]

Thirded,  black 480 looks slick!

[Made In China]

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Curious how that Tiago looks irl.   If it’s more tan than yellow that’s a top shoe.

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That predominantly black 480 looks GOOOOOOOOOD.

Echoing this. I had a pair of the 440v1 highs in that colorway and loved how they looked. Hopefully this colorway crosses over to some of their other shoes, like the 1010 and 480 high...

[Fongstarr.]

Idk man, it’s pretty noticeable even in my shitty hastily taken pic.

Tbf though things being straight and straight lines is a big part of my profession, so my eye is likely trained to pick up on those things.

My grievance wasn’t with you so much as often times members on here try to tell individuals how their own business is. It’s such a common occurrence, and it irritates the piss out of me.

This is my pair. My laces look similar to yours on my left shoe.

[DeanMaple]

 This thread....

[Dwayne Hoover]

someone just tell me when the beef and broccoli 440s drop

[Atiba Applebum]

someone just tell me when the beef and broccoli 440s drop

Tomorrow unless you want them from Kinetic/Nocturnal and it’s now

[douchenozzle]

What are some heads opinion on the 770 on foot? I just got them, and I cant get over how wide they look on my feet

[DeanMaple]

Show them

[Reese Bruno]

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I have 2 pairs of the shoes. 3 of them are normally orientated. I literally have 3 examples in hand of how the shoe is supposed to be. Slappers like telling people how shit is when they really aren’t in a position to do so.

It’s not aligned, period. Now I’ll take photos to show why.

Below example is how the material is aligned at on the outer side edge at the heel on a properly aligned shoe.



Below example is the misaligned shoe where the material is pulled too far back. Notice how there is less space at the heel stitch. This orientation causes the entire shoe to be misaligned on both sides which in turn effects the lace alignment.



Furthermore, I notice this stuff because my job literally requires me to function with a high level of visual scrutiny. This wasn’t subtle when lacing.

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They aren't in position to do so ahahahahahahahah
First, you sent a shitty ass boomer picture talking about misaligned laces with NO LACES in sight where the holes looked reasonably lined-up and it took me 30 secs to prove that you're reaching.

And guess what, get off your high horse, I have almost a decade of experience into footwear and that's a perfectly acceptable level of discrepancy in shoe assembly. it's within tolerances of shoe making, there's a human gluing that upper to the sole unit with only a few reference points,  sometimes they come perfect, sometimes they're a few millimetres off, cause in the end of the day you're buying some cheap ass mass produced skate shoes and not fucking Italian made Prada's.

Is your job title to be a bitch ass?

You sound like a moody little prick. You design Adidas, too? Lol

[Xen]

Thirded,  black 480 looks slick!

Really like what they did with the outsole.

[venture5.8]

What are some heads opinion on the 770 on foot? I just got them, and I cant get over how wide they look on my feet

I thought they were pretty comfy but they felt pretty unstable imo. They seem to be ankle rollers

[douchenozzle]

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What are some heads opinion on the 770 on foot? I just got them, and I cant get over how wide they look on my feet

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I thought they were pretty comfy but they felt pretty unstable imo. They seem to be ankle rollers

Any shoe that has that sole design on the back end has historically been doom for ankles. I returned mine (sorry, no pics), I was annoyed on how wide the shoe was while having no shape beyond the ball of the foot. It was like wearing tech potatoes

[dstrytruitt]

New colorways for 933 release today?

[Llewellyn Moss]

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What are some heads opinion on the 770 on foot? I just got them, and I cant get over how wide they look on my feet

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I thought they were pretty comfy but they felt pretty unstable imo. They seem to be ankle rollers

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Any shoe that has that sole design on the back end has historically been doom for ankles. I returned mine (sorry, no pics), I was annoyed on how wide the shoe was while having no shape beyond the ball of the foot. It was like wearing tech potatoes

I've been searching for a way to describe trying the 1010s for the first time, and this is it. They also feel spongy everywhere, even at the heel, which feels supportive but still, spongy, somehow.