New Balance # containment thread

[Llewellyn Moss]

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Skated the 480 highs I've had on ice for the first time today. Coming off 440s for years, gotta say I... love these. Flick is different, feels sturdier maybe a touch more consistent. Good grip.

Was afraid they'd be like bulky bricks but definitely weren't. Was afraid I wouldn't feel the board at all and did.

Extra room in the toebox made my feet feel less straight jacketed than the narrower 440.

Only con so far is the fit around the ankle isn't as secure as the 440 but I can likely solve that with different lacing strategies. Feel like my entire report echoes what others have said about the 480.

I guess another con is current availability for this shoe, which I find concerning. Really hard to find. Hopefully the Q2 drop has that new cw coming that was mentioned earlier in the thread.

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Yeah, I've had a few sessions on mine and liking them a lot. Here are my favorite things about them:

• Tongue bands on top of the lace loop make the tongue stay cantered and in place perfectly. I really love that feature and have missed it for a long time since I stopped skating basketball shoes in the 80's and other tech skate shoes in the late 90s/early 00s.
• Laces or lace holes keep the laces where you set them and they stay tight so no need to double lace or keep adjusting
• Stability - I thought they were too stiff and flat like a 2x4 under my feet at first but not really noticeable while skating and really help keep my feet planted
• Support - snug around the foot but not constricting with room to wiggle toes a bit.
• Not a pita to put on or take off. I hate having to loosen all the laces all the way down just to put on or take of shoes like I had to with Blazer Mids

Overall, I don't think about them much while I'm skating, which is a good thing. They blend into my skating, keep my feet comfy and feel very protected but flexible at the same time. I get the hype for NB# shoes now.

Still not decided on the insole and might swap out for my FPs after popping around a bit and noticing some foot fatigue but want to give the stock insoles a bit more of a chance while I'm still breaking the shoes in. I did notice the stock insoles seem like shitty foam that do nothing for shock absorption like most stock insoles so it's very likely I'll eventually swap them out.

Also, as good as these shoes are, I don't think I'll get them or another conventional skate shoe again. I need some barefoot skate shoes and hope these last long enough for some good ones to come out. I noticed in that upcoming drop that was posted recently that there were no 480 highs included so that sucks for the people who want to keep getting these.

All of the above I observed as well. Nice that you get the NB hype now. Not trying to stan but i got it immediately with my first pair of 440s years ago. Stuck on it so long that this is only the second model I've skated cept for a few test runs on the 1010 that surprisingly didn't agree with me but I may retry. And honestlyI did wonder if the 440 was more suited for you for your first foray; it's closer to barefoot than the 480 for sure, it's thinner, flatter/feel like less of a heel toe drop. I've never tried barefoot shoes and don't know much on them but.

I dropped a Superfeet insole in. I feel less sore today than on a typical session in 440s. The standard insoles with NB are more of a courtesy insert just to cover the lasting board. They're just there. And yeah it's unfortunate most companies skimp on insoles. To be fair it's balanced out by the cushioning in the midsole and cup, but I always throw aftermarket in regardless.

For durability you should be set a while with these. Keep us posted if your quest for the barefoot model arrives at glory.

[Slave IV]

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Skated the 480 highs I've had on ice for the first time today. Coming off 440s for years, gotta say I... love these. Flick is different, feels sturdier maybe a touch more consistent. Good grip.

Was afraid they'd be like bulky bricks but definitely weren't. Was afraid I wouldn't feel the board at all and did.

Extra room in the toebox made my feet feel less straight jacketed than the narrower 440.

Only con so far is the fit around the ankle isn't as secure as the 440 but I can likely solve that with different lacing strategies. Feel like my entire report echoes what others have said about the 480.

I guess another con is current availability for this shoe, which I find concerning. Really hard to find. Hopefully the Q2 drop has that new cw coming that was mentioned earlier in the thread.

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Yeah, I've had a few sessions on mine and liking them a lot. Here are my favorite things about them:

• Tongue bands on top of the lace loop make the tongue stay cantered and in place perfectly. I really love that feature and have missed it for a long time since I stopped skating basketball shoes in the 80's and other tech skate shoes in the late 90s/early 00s.
• Laces or lace holes keep the laces where you set them and they stay tight so no need to double lace or keep adjusting
• Stability - I thought they were too stiff and flat like a 2x4 under my feet at first but not really noticeable while skating and really help keep my feet planted
• Support - snug around the foot but not constricting with room to wiggle toes a bit.
• Not a pita to put on or take off. I hate having to loosen all the laces all the way down just to put on or take of shoes like I had to with Blazer Mids

Overall, I don't think about them much while I'm skating, which is a good thing. They blend into my skating, keep my feet comfy and feel very protected but flexible at the same time. I get the hype for NB# shoes now.

Still not decided on the insole and might swap out for my FPs after popping around a bit and noticing some foot fatigue but want to give the stock insoles a bit more of a chance while I'm still breaking the shoes in. I did notice the stock insoles seem like shitty foam that do nothing for shock absorption like most stock insoles so it's very likely I'll eventually swap them out.

Also, as good as these shoes are, I don't think I'll get them or another conventional skate shoe again. I need some barefoot skate shoes and hope these last long enough for some good ones to come out. I noticed in that upcoming drop that was posted recently that there were no 480 highs included so that sucks for the people who want to keep getting these.

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All of the above I observed as well. Nice that you get the NB hype now. Not trying to stan but i got it immediately with my first pair of 440s years ago. Stuck on it so long that this is only the second model I've skated cept for a few test runs on the 1010 that surprisingly didn't agree with me but I may retry. And honestlyI did wonder if the 440 was more suited for you for your first foray; it's closer to barefoot than the 480 for sure, it's thinner, flatter/feel like less of a heel toe drop. I've never tried barefoot shoes and don't know much on them but.

I dropped a Superfeet insole in. I feel less sore today than on a typical session in 440s. The standard insoles with NB are more of a courtesy insert just to cover the lasting board. They're just there. And yeah it's unfortunate most companies skimp on insoles. To be fair it's balanced out by the cushioning in the midsole and cup, but I always throw aftermarket in regardless.

For durability you should be set a while with these. Keep us posted if your quest for the barefoot model arrives at glory.

Aren’t 440s a thinner fit than 480s though? Either way, I’ve heard those are similar to Blazers in they are a pita to take off or put on. After dealing with that on Blazers, I’ll never buy another shoe like that again. Already have to deal with that with snowboard boots. Blazers were the first Vulc shoes I’ve ever owned and I do like the feel and almost everything else about them once they are on. I don’t think I really care between Vulc and cupsole but I do prefer thinner sole so I know, that’s usually found on vulcs. I’ve actually found that the shoe itself doesn’t need any impact protection, just a good outsole and all the impact protection I need is provided by the aftermarket insole, FP in my case. But as you said, these 480s are going to last me a while so I can deal with it all much later.

[Llewellyn Moss]

Yeah 440 definitely thinner outsole and it doesn't have the full length midsole and fuelcell like the 480. The 440 wraps tighter around the foot in all directions. And yeah, it's a task to take on and off when you lace it fully. Re barefoot, I meant for overall board feel and foot positioning, I'm guessing the 440 is closer to barefoot.

[j....soy.....]

Not sure and too lazy to see if ABP, nor can I imbed, but Ryan Lay's footwear breakdown is pretty solid:

https://youtu.be/CPxRdq3V8wA?si=snxUcpKRQACKKhu2

[Slave IV]

Yeah 440 definitely thinner outsole and it doesn't have the full length midsole and fuelcell like the 480. The 440 wraps tighter around the foot in all directions. And yeah, it's a task to take on and off when you lace it fully. Re barefoot, I meant for overall board feel and foot positioning, I'm guessing the 440 is closer to barefoot.

Yeah, that tightness, especially putting on and taking off is a dealbreaker for me on the 440s. I wonder if the 417s are similar? As for barefoot, there are many factors and I couldn’t say any of the NB# are close to barefoot style shoes, pretty much the opposite. But, they serve their purpose for skating pretty well. I can deal with it because I’d rather have the protection while I’m skating than not but I do see an opportunity in the market to create some shoes that can offer both.

Not sure and too lazy to see if ABP, nor can I imbed, but Ryan Lay's footwear breakdown is pretty solid:

https://youtu.be/CPxRdq3V8wA?si=snxUcpKRQACKKhu2

That was interesting, thanks for sharing. I wonder why he mentioned every shoe on the table except those white 480 Highs? Especially since that’s what I have and what some of us have been talking about.

[cjscoot]

The 417 high is also pretty tough to get on and off.

And I assume since Lay was making this video for runners as well as skaters, he didn’t talk about the 480 highs because they have most of the same talking points as the lows.

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Yeah 440 definitely thinner outsole and it doesn't have the full length midsole and fuelcell like the 480. The 440 wraps tighter around the foot in all directions. And yeah, it's a task to take on and off when you lace it fully. Re barefoot, I meant for overall board feel and foot positioning, I'm guessing the 440 is closer to barefoot.

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Yeah, that tightness, especially putting on and taking off is a dealbreaker for me on the 440s. I wonder if the 417s are similar? As for barefoot, there are many factors and I couldn’t say any of the NB# are close to barefoot style shoes, pretty much the opposite. But, they serve their purpose for skating pretty well. I can deal with it because I’d rather have the protection while I’m skating than not but I do see an opportunity in the market to create some shoes that can offer both.

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Not sure and too lazy to see if ABP, nor can I imbed, but Ryan Lay's footwear breakdown is pretty solid:

https://youtu.be/CPxRdq3V8wA?si=snxUcpKRQACKKhu2

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That was interesting, thanks for sharing. I wonder why he mentioned every shoe on the table except those white 480 Highs? Especially since that’s what I have and what some of us have been talking about.

[cjscoot]

Over under on that the new sage and navy 770s drop before the Australian open pairs?

[Atiba Applebum]

Over under on that the new sage and navy 779s drop before the Australian open pairs?

They’re for sale on the NB site starting Sat so I’d assume shops have them out on Fridays

[Snackbar]

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Over under on that the new sage and navy 779s drop before the Australian open pairs?

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They’re for sale on the NB site starting Sat so I’d assume shops have them out on Fridays

Premier has the sage and the navy now if you'd like them

[cjscoot]

Amateur athlete and Underground both had them 20% off yesterday. I imagine since they drop on NB Friday most shops are already supposed to have them, but warehouse issues continue to plague what’s planned.

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Over under on that the new sage and navy 779s drop before the Australian open pairs?

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They’re for sale on the NB site starting Sat so I’d assume shops have them out on Fridays

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Premier has the sage and the navy now if you'd like them

[cjscoot]

These camo 1010s have been circulated/asked about for awhile, officially confirmed as a collab, probably releasing around the table thing they’re doing in Copenhagen on 1/29. Hopefully not exclusive to that.

[Pastasash]

Real Tree so hot right now

[bluedohdohs]

Has anyone skated the Kawhi Leonard 1010s lol
Just ordered some earlier today and i didn’t realize it’s a mix of the 1010, 808s, & Kawhi IVs

Seems more basketball adjacent I’m almost a lil bummed cause I’ve just been curious to try the  straight up 1010s but even if they don’t skate good I need some b ball shoes anyways so that’s cool & seems like many folks even got their hands on them so that’s exciting too

I usually warm up playing basketball before skating anyways, helps alot

[cjscoot]

You ordered the 1010s or the Kawhi 4? The 1010s are like any other 1010. The Kawhi 4 is the one they tweaked, I’ve only ever seen Tiago skate them.

Has anyone skated the Kawhi Leonard 1010s lol
Just ordered some earlier today and i didn’t realize it’s a mix of the 1010, 808s, & Kawhi IVs

Seems more basketball adjacent I’m almost a lil bummed cause I’ve just been curious to try the  straight up 1010s but even if they don’t skate good I need some b ball shoes anyways so that’s cool & seems like many folks even got their hands on them so that’s exciting too

I usually warm up playing basketball before skating anyways, helps alot

[bluedohdohs]

Lmfao i stand corrected right on i looked into coming out of a heavy nap brain wasn’t working properly
Now I’m almost a lil bummed it isn’t the IVs haha but kinda glad I just wanna see what all the 1010 praise is about loving the 933s. I kind of like switching up my shoes spread out thru multiple sessions or bringing two different pairs to the sesh
Thanks again

[cjscoot]

I bet skating the Kawhi 4 would be a lot to get used to but doable if you like things like the 808 and 933s! The 1010s are great, a bit more boardfeel than the 933s in the forefoot but honestly nothing to really complain about, depending on the pair and the shape of your foot heel slip can be a bitch, otherwise I’d bet you’ll enjoy them coming from the 933.

Lmfao i stand corrected right on i looked into coming out of a heavy nap brain wasn’t working properly
Now I’m almost a lil bummed it isn’t the IVs haha but kinda glad I just wanna see what all the 1010 praise is about loving the 933s. I kind of like switching up my shoes spread out thru multiple sessions or bringing two different pairs to the sesh
Thanks again

[bluedohdohs]

Right on C 💰yeah I have some AS 1s i keep wanting to reach for but it’s hard with the 933s lol I feel like I won’t think about it as much with the 1010s
I’m a flip tricks on flat, ledges n flat bars n keep the line going as long as i can kinda cat so more boardfeel sounds like a positive tbh

[rothdigga]

These camo 1010s have been circulated/asked about for awhile, officially confirmed as a collab, probably releasing around the table thing they’re doing in Copenhagen on 1/29. Hopefully not exclusive to that.

These are only for the event in CPH and just a small promo run made (not a full production run) so they're just for promo at the CPH event and nothing else. 

[cjscoot]

Had a feeling 🫠

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These camo 1010s have been circulated/asked about for awhile, officially confirmed as a collab, probably releasing around the table thing they’re doing in Copenhagen on 1/29. Hopefully not exclusive to that.

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These are only for the event in CPH and just a small promo run made (not a full production run) so they're just for promo at the CPH event and nothing else.

[j....soy.....]

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Yeah 440 definitely thinner outsole and it doesn't have the full length midsole and fuelcell like the 480. The 440 wraps tighter around the foot in all directions. And yeah, it's a task to take on and off when you lace it fully. Re barefoot, I meant for overall board feel and foot positioning, I'm guessing the 440 is closer to barefoot.

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Yeah, that tightness, especially putting on and taking off is a dealbreaker for me on the 440s. I wonder if the 417s are similar? As for barefoot, there are many factors and I couldn’t say any of the NB# are close to barefoot style shoes, pretty much the opposite. But, they serve their purpose for skating pretty well. I can deal with it because I’d rather have the protection while I’m skating than not but I do see an opportunity in the market to create some shoes that can offer both.

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Not sure and too lazy to see if ABP, nor can I imbed, but Ryan Lay's footwear breakdown is pretty solid:

https://youtu.be/CPxRdq3V8wA?si=snxUcpKRQACKKhu2

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That was interesting, thanks for sharing. I wonder why he mentioned every shoe on the table except those white 480 Highs? Especially since that’s what I have and what some of us have been talking about.

I think unless you’re a high top guy they are more a novelty than anything…..and he covered the regular 480s

It’s the shoe I’m most interested in to skate but my impression is that they aren’t doing it again.

New Balance for me currently exists in the chiller category…

[Llewellyn Moss]

First few shop listings I've seen for the new 440h cw and got dam they look good

https://southsideskateshop.com/products/440-hnn-new-balance-numeric-suede-skateboarding-shoes

[cornman]

First few shop listings I've seen for the new 440h cw and got dam they look good

https://southsideskateshop.com/products/440-hnn-new-balance-numeric-suede-skateboarding-shoes

Huminah huminah huminah

[Slave IV]

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Yeah 440 definitely thinner outsole and it doesn't have the full length midsole and fuelcell like the 480. The 440 wraps tighter around the foot in all directions. And yeah, it's a task to take on and off when you lace it fully. Re barefoot, I meant for overall board feel and foot positioning, I'm guessing the 440 is closer to barefoot.

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Yeah, that tightness, especially putting on and taking off is a dealbreaker for me on the 440s. I wonder if the 417s are similar? As for barefoot, there are many factors and I couldn’t say any of the NB# are close to barefoot style shoes, pretty much the opposite. But, they serve their purpose for skating pretty well. I can deal with it because I’d rather have the protection while I’m skating than not but I do see an opportunity in the market to create some shoes that can offer both.

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Not sure and too lazy to see if ABP, nor can I imbed, but Ryan Lay's footwear breakdown is pretty solid:

https://youtu.be/CPxRdq3V8wA?si=snxUcpKRQACKKhu2

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That was interesting, thanks for sharing. I wonder why he mentioned every shoe on the table except those white 480 Highs? Especially since that’s what I have and what some of us have been talking about.

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I think unless you’re a high top guy they are more a novelty than anything…..and he covered the regular 480s

It’s the shoe I’m most interested in to skate but my impression is that they aren’t doing it again.

New Balance for me currently exists in the chiller category…

Someone here posted that there was a shop collab 480 high coming this year. No idea about the credibility but it wasn’t included in that official NB drop that was posted recently. Anyways, good shoes and I like mine and will enjoy them to their demise but I’m also quite sure I won’t buy them again. If I was going to buy another conventional skate shoe again, it would be either 480 high or I’d try MC Rap highs but both seem pretty rare at the moment.

[wuust]

Not sure where to post this but is synclair of nike and on NB?

[Stoop Kid 2.0]

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These camo 1010s have been circulated/asked about for awhile, officially confirmed as a collab, probably releasing around the table thing they’re doing in Copenhagen on 1/29. Hopefully not exclusive to that.

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These are only for the event in CPH and just a small promo run made (not a full production run) so they're just for promo at the CPH event and nothing else.

That’s a gigantic letdown. Thought I had my next pair of shoes lined up.

[Llewellyn Moss]

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Yeah 440 definitely thinner outsole and it doesn't have the full length midsole and fuelcell like the 480. The 440 wraps tighter around the foot in all directions. And yeah, it's a task to take on and off when you lace it fully. Re barefoot, I meant for overall board feel and foot positioning, I'm guessing the 440 is closer to barefoot.

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Yeah, that tightness, especially putting on and taking off is a dealbreaker for me on the 440s. I wonder if the 417s are similar? As for barefoot, there are many factors and I couldn’t say any of the NB# are close to barefoot style shoes, pretty much the opposite. But, they serve their purpose for skating pretty well. I can deal with it because I’d rather have the protection while I’m skating than not but I do see an opportunity in the market to create some shoes that can offer both.

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Not sure and too lazy to see if ABP, nor can I imbed, but Ryan Lay's footwear breakdown is pretty solid:

https://youtu.be/CPxRdq3V8wA?si=snxUcpKRQACKKhu2

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That was interesting, thanks for sharing. I wonder why he mentioned every shoe on the table except those white 480 Highs? Especially since that’s what I have and what some of us have been talking about.

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I think unless you’re a high top guy they are more a novelty than anything…..and he covered the regular 480s

It’s the shoe I’m most interested in to skate but my impression is that they aren’t doing it again.

New Balance for me currently exists in the chiller category…

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Someone here posted that there was a shop collab 480 high coming this year. No idea about the credibility but it wasn’t included in that official NB drop that was posted recently. Anyways, good shoes and I like mine and will enjoy them to their demise but I’m also quite sure I won’t buy them again. If I was going to buy another conventional skate shoe again, it would be either 480 high or I’d try MC Rap highs but both seem pretty rare at the moment.

I looked back the other day in this thread to refresh my memory and saw mention of an inline cw for the 480 high in Q3, is that the one you mean? Because the thought of two whole ass cws coming might be too much to handle given the current drought!

[Slave IV]

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Yeah 440 definitely thinner outsole and it doesn't have the full length midsole and fuelcell like the 480. The 440 wraps tighter around the foot in all directions. And yeah, it's a task to take on and off when you lace it fully. Re barefoot, I meant for overall board feel and foot positioning, I'm guessing the 440 is closer to barefoot.

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Yeah, that tightness, especially putting on and taking off is a dealbreaker for me on the 440s. I wonder if the 417s are similar? As for barefoot, there are many factors and I couldn’t say any of the NB# are close to barefoot style shoes, pretty much the opposite. But, they serve their purpose for skating pretty well. I can deal with it because I’d rather have the protection while I’m skating than not but I do see an opportunity in the market to create some shoes that can offer both.

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Not sure and too lazy to see if ABP, nor can I imbed, but Ryan Lay's footwear breakdown is pretty solid:

https://youtu.be/CPxRdq3V8wA?si=snxUcpKRQACKKhu2

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That was interesting, thanks for sharing. I wonder why he mentioned every shoe on the table except those white 480 Highs? Especially since that’s what I have and what some of us have been talking about.

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I think unless you’re a high top guy they are more a novelty than anything…..and he covered the regular 480s

It’s the shoe I’m most interested in to skate but my impression is that they aren’t doing it again.

New Balance for me currently exists in the chiller category…

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Someone here posted that there was a shop collab 480 high coming this year. No idea about the credibility but it wasn’t included in that official NB drop that was posted recently. Anyways, good shoes and I like mine and will enjoy them to their demise but I’m also quite sure I won’t buy them again. If I was going to buy another conventional skate shoe again, it would be either 480 high or I’d try MC Rap highs but both seem pretty rare at the moment.

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I looked back the other day in this thread to refresh my memory and saw mention of an inline cw for the 480 high in Q3, is that the one you mean? Because the thought of two whole ass cws coming might be too much to handle given the current drought!

Not sure what all your post means but that’s the post I was referring to. Q3 and some new CW for 480 highs were the key points.

[hiljentaa]

I know nothing will come of this, but I would like to see the 913 return.

[rothdigga]

I know nothing will come of this, but I would like to see the 913 return.

Sadly the compound we used to use for the cushioning in the 913 is no longer available, thus we'll never be able to do any re-releases of that shoe. 

[kneebone]

lol it can ONLY be made with that specific one compound.