I like Torey (you can't deny his talent and I think his style isn't bad at all), I liked his half cab looking shoe on DVS (the one without the strap), and I don't think there's anything wrong with this shoe either, but I'm a big fan of vans eras. I do think that he could've designed something cool and new, but it's diamond so fuck it. Hopefully Biebel's shoe will be better