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Xen

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4200 on: August 10, 2018, 07:27:34 PM »
Questions as I plan another foray into Indys:

Ride differences between the Standard, the Hollow, and the Forged Hollow?

Can you get away with the Forged Hollows and 54+mm wheels?

Do any Indys come stock with a softer bushing? I never got my Stage 10s as turny as I liked with stock bushings.


Do I just wait for Venture to put out their 8.25 truck?...

Weight and 'tinny-ness' with forged

Yes, 55 MM wheels are up to 56 MM wheels; by that logic, 54mm wheels should be fine for a 53.5mm truck (also depends on how tight you ride)

Yes, the stock 90a (orange) bushing is pretty squishy; aftermarkets are better.

Thunder, Indy, Theeve and Krux (royal, fury, destructo, bullet, industrial, silver; ace, ML, Tensor 8.3x) all make 8.25s so up to you if you want to wait for venture.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4201 on: August 12, 2018, 01:37:01 PM »
my dad swoop this thing from the flea market for $5

what year roughly are these indys? they have six holes in the baseplate


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4202 on: August 12, 2018, 02:14:16 PM »
7's....8 has the cross on the pivot point.  Google works great for this kinda stuff...

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4203 on: August 13, 2018, 06:04:28 AM »
7ís were so good...

So I got some of those new ace 44ís, do I need to break them in like thunders (I.e donít fuck with them for 2-3sessions)? Any tips would be appreciated ...

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4204 on: August 13, 2018, 07:46:26 AM »
Yes. The bushings will be hard and the turn will not be perfect initially but after breaking them in theyíll be perfect.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4205 on: August 13, 2018, 08:32:52 AM »
Definitely break them in. I donít skate my trucks very loose, but after the bushings hardened up a bit, I barely tightened them at all.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4206 on: August 13, 2018, 08:36:42 AM »
I have a set of 8's but most of the trucks from that era are commonly narrow....work great on a zip zinger.....

Around that time I don't think indys were that cool....everyone was skating ventures or starting to experiment w all the other truck companies....

Indy like thrasher.....no one cared about despite what everyone is saying now....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4207 on: August 13, 2018, 08:59:01 AM »
I have a set of 8's but most of the trucks from that era are commonly narrow....work great on a zip zinger.....

Around that time I don't think indys were that cool....everyone was skating ventures or starting to experiment w all the other truck companies....

Indy like thrasher.....no one cared about despite what everyone is saying now....

I always remember ventures being talked up as the top dog in trucks, Indy's were "old school".

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4208 on: August 13, 2018, 11:49:37 AM »
When I started skating in 00, everyone was raving about grind kings - I still agree with the kingpin.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4209 on: August 13, 2018, 11:52:01 AM »
Grind Kings were my first trucks in probably '01 or '02. World Industries Devil w/ Flameboy and Wet Willy deck. Probably a 7.5". Also Blue/Orange swirl World Industries wheels.

Those were the days...

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4210 on: August 13, 2018, 12:48:11 PM »
Grind King kingpins were the best ever at literally falling out of your trucks. The concept was way ahead of the game though. If you remember the idiotic concept of floating Axel's that spun on purpose so you didn't have to bang your trucks when the Axel's moved you are old ;)

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4211 on: August 13, 2018, 01:22:51 PM »
7's....8 has the cross on the pivot point.  Google works great for this kinda stuff...

killer, thanks.

the trucks aren't even scratched and they have the original washers.

the bearings that were in the wheels say "smokies a3" and i can't find any info on them

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4212 on: August 13, 2018, 06:37:05 PM »
my dad swoop this thing from the flea market for $5

what year roughly are these indys? they have six holes in the baseplate



These trucks are my favorites. They turn great, grind really good and are heavy as fuck. I have two sets of 156's and love them but do not use them, i dont want to get used to them and then never be able to find a set once I grind through them.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4213 on: August 13, 2018, 07:34:15 PM »
Alright guys letís dive even deeper into this shit, whatís good with covered nuts?

Grind King Rimz had cheesy marketing but the performance concept was sound. Way back in the day I had some that would cover the end of the axle to help keep them from getting banged up. Iím wondering if thereís some kind of hardware store alternative out here to help keep from wear & tear on my axles.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4214 on: August 13, 2018, 10:29:15 PM »
Alright guys letís dive even deeper into this shit, whatís good with covered nuts?

Grind King Rimz had cheesy marketing but the performance concept was sound. Way back in the day I had some that would cover the end of the axle to help keep them from getting banged up. Iím wondering if thereís some kind of hardware store alternative out here to help keep from wear & tear on my axles.
silver made a nut only version that worked well. similar to this


edit: on the axles of these

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4215 on: August 13, 2018, 11:27:44 PM »
I skate the extended races and I just set up wheels....threw the washers on anyhow...and realized I need to see a bit of axel.....not hanging out the side but for some reason just nut looks clunky....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4216 on: August 14, 2018, 11:14:29 AM »
I keep enough washers around so I can make the nut flush with the end of the axle.  On some older trucks like my Stage 7 146s it means I am putting quite a few on.  I usually put them on the inside of the wheel and run only one speedring on the outside.  It just looks better to me to have the nut/axle flush.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4217 on: August 14, 2018, 11:24:50 AM »
I do the inner wheels washers too with my back set-up, 139mm on 8.25, make them home made 144, didn't get in the 149mm club soon enough  ;D

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4218 on: August 16, 2018, 01:22:19 AM »
I can put my stage 11 hangers on a stage 10 forged baseplate right ?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4219 on: August 16, 2018, 05:39:46 AM »
I can put my stage 11 hangers on a stage 10 forged baseplate right ?

Not sure, but if it helps I am running stage 9 base plates with stage 11 hanger with no noticeable issues. Seems like all changes were made with the hanger

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4220 on: August 16, 2018, 10:58:28 AM »
I can put my stage 11 hangers on a stage 10 forged baseplate right ?

yes.  S10 baseplates are exactly the same as S11 but the S10 do not have the cross engraving

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4221 on: August 16, 2018, 01:06:52 PM »
Thanks Steve, put them together last night, it just looks better to me than the thick standard plate, makes me feel like itíll feel less stilt like

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4222 on: August 16, 2018, 01:19:24 PM »
I can put my stage 11 hangers on a stage 10 forged baseplate right ?

yes.  S10 baseplates are exactly the same as S11 but the S10 do not have the cross engraving

Indy called them Stage 10.5s

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4223 on: August 16, 2018, 02:15:34 PM »
the bearings that were in the wheels say "smokies a3" and i can't find any info on them

Bearings by Golden State Wheel Co by Justin Girard (of  Mad Circle), distributed out of Giant Distribution.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4224 on: August 17, 2018, 02:05:16 PM »
the bearings that were in the wheels say "smokies a3" and i can't find any info on them

Bearings by Golden State Wheel Co by Justin Girard (of  Mad Circle), distributed out of Giant Distribution.

thanks man, i can't believe how old this thing is. the bearings are still fine, i'm thinking about using them after i clean them up. what year did they stop making indy stage 7?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4225 on: August 18, 2018, 06:19:39 PM »
My truck set up: Venture 5.8 with the top bushing shaved down so I can have both washers with bolt flush to the king pin. I basically ride my trucks with no preload on the bushings, you can basically spin them around.
I always skated my trucks this loose my entire time skating and adapted to the feel. But lately I havent been skating as often and trying to learn new tricks.
The other day I tried riding my trucks a full turn tighter which added a bit of pre load. trucks felt more stable and bushings rebounds quicker. Manual tricks became slighty easier but the I hate it. Grinding I cant lock in like I would with wobbly trucks and makes me feel high on the ledge and higher chance landing primo. I also noticed bombing hills were way scarier with medium loose trucks. Any input I give Ill have crazy speed wobble since busings respond quicker. When I have 0 preload on my bushings I have total stability. Back to crazy loose trucks for me.
Anyone else have similar experience?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4226 on: August 18, 2018, 08:16:44 PM »
^^ Not loose to the point where the turn feels straight up pivot cup, but loose to where there is slight preload and some hanger rattle. Try aces! They feel very natural at that level of loose.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4227 on: August 18, 2018, 08:36:18 PM »
I used to ride Ace but I dont like the small wheelbase.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4228 on: August 19, 2018, 12:54:30 AM »
Question: would a high or low truck make for more of an effective "pinch" on grinds?

I've skated lows before and felt like I was slipping out of crooked grinds easier; couldn't tell if it was me or not.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #4229 on: August 19, 2018, 05:03:08 AM »
Question: would a high or low truck make for more of an effective "pinch" on grinds?

I've skated lows before and felt like I was slipping out of crooked grinds easier; couldn't tell if it was me or not.

Highs