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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11940 on: January 22, 2024, 12:30:10 PM »
Eh I run these for the same reason, bones like but keep my preferred duro thane… no rounding/ovalling here.

Kingpin loose, sounds like something is loose (super soft bushings?) for that to be able to happen?


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11941 on: January 22, 2024, 12:35:05 PM »
Eh I run these for the same reason, bones like but keep my preferred duro thane… no rounding/ovalling here.

Kingpin loose, sounds like something is loose (super soft bushings?) for that to be able to happen?


Same. Been running the same few pairs I got from Muir Skate 3+ years ago. No ovaling at all. As for clicking, only on indy with new bushings (goes away after a few sessions).

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11942 on: January 23, 2024, 11:17:30 PM »
This has probably been tackled somewhere before, but anyone else have terrible pop with Thunders? Love the pinch, and have good flick for flip tricks on the right boards, but my pop is pretty weak always. Is this just how it is or is there some sweet spot for tail length i should be looking for or something?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11943 on: January 24, 2024, 09:02:19 AM »
whats your setup
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11944 on: January 24, 2024, 09:18:22 AM »
This has probably been tackled somewhere before, but anyone else have terrible pop with Thunders? Love the pinch, and have good flick for flip tricks on the right boards, but my pop is pretty weak always. Is this just how it is or is there some sweet spot for tail length i should be looking for or something?
It’s a lower truck so your tail will hit sooner. Thus, you won’t have the same lift potential that you would with a higher truck like Indy.

Just my guess, but yes do please share setup ^

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11945 on: January 24, 2024, 07:56:04 PM »
shorter nose/tail or a small riser may help.....

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11946 on: January 25, 2024, 03:27:50 AM »
any recommendations on thin bushing washers?
specifically board side and not bones flats
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« Reply #11947 on: January 25, 2024, 05:48:01 AM »
any recommendations on thin bushing washers?
specifically board side and not bones flats

No disrespect, but why do you want to do that? A thinner bottom bushing will change your truck geo and cause your pivot cups to blow out faster.

If you still want to for whatever reason just take your bottom bushing with you to the hardware store and find something with the same diameter as the bushing with your desired thickness.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11948 on: January 25, 2024, 07:45:58 AM »
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any recommendations on thin bushing washers?
specifically board side and not bones flats
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No disrespect, but why do you want to do that? A thinner bottom bushing will change your truck geo and cause your pivot cups to blow out faster.

If you still want to for whatever reason just take your bottom bushing with you to the hardware store and find something with the same diameter as the bushing with your desired thickness.
i dont really care about pivot cups. i replace once and forget

tying to counteract taking a kingpin down via angle grinder
it worked with the bushings i had, not as well for the new set
not fussing about what that did to the geo

would rather not change baseplates if there are other options
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11949 on: January 25, 2024, 08:38:54 AM »
I want a washer that has the exact same diameter as kingpin, so the washer doesn’t click and clack back and forth on turns.

Drives me nuts.

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« Reply #11950 on: January 25, 2024, 09:10:23 AM »
I want a washer that has the exact same diameter as kingpin, so the washer doesn’t click and clack back and forth on turns.

Drives me nuts.

Get some 8 mm washers and drill them to 9,5 mm. Done this couple of times and sometimes requires a little force to get them to the kingpin but they don't ever click.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11951 on: January 25, 2024, 11:01:39 AM »
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I want a washer that has the exact same diameter as kingpin, so the washer doesn’t click and clack back and forth on turns.

Drives me nuts.
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Get some 8 mm washers and drill them to 9,5 mm. Done this couple of times and sometimes requires a little force to get them to the kingpin but they don't ever click.

Ooh, thank you. Might have to do that if there no perfect match at the hardware store.

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« Reply #11952 on: January 29, 2024, 09:31:42 AM »
Those kingpin measurements that the professor and Ben are not the measurements I want.

That's kingpin clearance and grind material.

They should get the angle of the kingpin in the baseplate also the angle of the pivot

Then we might better understand why trucks turn differently and if my hypothesis is correct

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11953 on: January 29, 2024, 02:30:23 PM »
Those kingpin measurements that the professor and Ben are not the measurements I want.

That's kingpin clearance and grind material.

They should get the angle of the kingpin in the baseplate also the angle of the pivot

Then we might better understand why trucks turn differently and if my hypothesis is correct


Def clearance/nut angle…damn, those lows haha.


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« Reply #11954 on: February 22, 2024, 12:23:37 AM »
Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11955 on: February 22, 2024, 02:13:22 AM »
Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?
Sure. That's basically what you do every few seconds when you're riding a twin tail. No harm whatsoever, other than people thinking you're a god at switch fs crooks

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11956 on: February 22, 2024, 02:25:03 AM »
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Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?
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Sure. That's basically what you do every few seconds when you're riding a twin tail. No harm whatsoever, other than people thinking you're a god at switch fs crooks

ha. It never occured to me, since i never had a truck with a low kingpin that allowed for switching hangars. Hooray for five more months of slappies on the same truck

Thanks for the confirmation

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11957 on: February 22, 2024, 02:42:47 AM »
Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?
I swap hangers and bushings. You'll have double truck life.
Sir, I'm going to politely, but firmly, ask you and your common sense to leave this establishment.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11958 on: February 22, 2024, 02:57:51 AM »
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Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?
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I swap hangers and bushings. You'll have double truck life.

Much appreciated – as my trucks turn quite differently, this would probably give headaches for days breaking them in again

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11959 on: February 22, 2024, 12:03:22 PM »
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Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?
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I swap hangers and bushings. You'll have double truck life.
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Much appreciated – as my trucks turn quite differently, this would probably give headaches for days breaking them in again

Gonna lose them grooves! =(
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11960 on: February 22, 2024, 09:38:00 PM »
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Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?
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I swap hangers and bushings. You'll have double truck life.
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Much appreciated – as my trucks turn quite differently, this would probably give headaches for days breaking them in again
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Gonna loose them grooves! =(
Not for long because new grooves will appear quickly

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11961 on: February 23, 2024, 12:34:41 PM »
I really like Indy super soft bushings. I just leave the kingpin nut flush. I ride super loose trucks.


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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11963 on: June 22, 2024, 06:28:42 AM »
This has probably been tackled somewhere before, but anyone else have terrible pop with Thunders? Love the pinch, and have good flick for flip tricks on the right boards, but my pop is pretty weak always. Is this just how it is or is there some sweet spot for tail length i should be looking for or something?

Risers, finally added some 1/8 risers to my Royal and made them Indy height and I love them even more now.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11964 on: June 27, 2024, 12:49:38 PM »
Can anyone find/share the truck brand/model-wheelbase info? I can't seem to find it.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11965 on: June 27, 2024, 01:19:21 PM »
Can anyone find/share the truck brand/model-wheelbase info? I can't seem to find it.
Ace 44 (8.38" axle): + 2.75"

Film 5.5 (8.25" axle/6 Hole baseplate): + 2.875"

Film 5.5 (8.375 axle/4 Hole baseplate): + 3"

Independent 149 STD (8.5" axle): + 3"

Independent 169 STD (9.125" axle): + 3"

Independent 149 forged hollow (8.5" axle): + 3.1875"

Krux K4 (8.5" axle): + 2.625"

Tensor ATG Aluminium 5.5 (8.25" axle): + 3.0625"

Tensor ATG Mag 5.75 (8.5" axle): + 3.125

Thunder 149 team edition (8.5" axle): + 3.1875"

Thunder Hollow Lights 151 (8.75" axle): + 3.25"

Venture standard 5.8 (8.5" axle): + 3.25"

Venture 6.1 (8.75" axle): + 3.125”

Venture Lights 5.8 (8.5" axle): + 3.5"

Venture 5.8 Titanium (8.5" axle): + 3.4375

Venture 5.6 cast: +3.25

Thunder Ti Hollow Lite 148: +3.25

Independent 139 Titanium: +3.00 in

Thunder 147 Hollow Light: +3.3125 in


Destruco D2 Mids: +3.125

Thunder 161 (9.125" axle) +3.10" wb (52mm height)

Indy 215 Stage 11 (10" axle) + 3.00" wb (55mm height)

ACE 66 (9.35" axle) +2.65" wb (54mm height)


Film 6.0 raws: +3.13"

Venture 5.6 V-hollows: +3.38"


Tensor Maglight Low 5.5: +3.15"

Indy Standard: 3"
Indy Mid: 3"
Royal Standard: 3.05"
Indy Forged: 3.125"
Thunder Standard: 3.125"
Thunder Forged: 3.25"
Venture Cast: 3.25"
Venture Forged: 3.35"

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« Reply #11966 on: June 27, 2024, 02:34:26 PM »
Seeing that for ACE 44s probably explains why I don’t like mine. They feel CRAZY compared to my other trucks. Gotta leave them at the DIY or something.

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« Reply #11967 on: June 27, 2024, 04:19:45 PM »
Seeing that for ACE 44s probably explains why I don’t like mine. They feel CRAZY compared to my other trucks. Gotta leave them at the DIY or something.

i don’t believe in the effective wheelbase talk, mainly because of my experience with the ace classic trucks: i need to use those trucks with a 14” wb, and large wheels, to get good pop.
the effective wheelbase ideas would tell me to do the opposite.
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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11968 on: June 27, 2024, 05:30:31 PM »
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Can anyone find/share the truck brand/model-wheelbase info? I can't seem to find it.
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Ace 44 (8.38" axle): + 2.75"

Film 5.5 (8.25" axle/6 Hole baseplate): + 2.875"

Film 5.5 (8.375 axle/4 Hole baseplate): + 3"

Independent 149 STD (8.5" axle): + 3"

Independent 169 STD (9.125" axle): + 3"

Independent 149 forged hollow (8.5" axle): + 3.1875"

Krux K4 (8.5" axle): + 2.625"

Tensor ATG Aluminium 5.5 (8.25" axle): + 3.0625"

Tensor ATG Mag 5.75 (8.5" axle): + 3.125

Thunder 149 team edition (8.5" axle): + 3.1875"

Thunder Hollow Lights 151 (8.75" axle): + 3.25"

Venture standard 5.8 (8.5" axle): + 3.25"

Venture 6.1 (8.75" axle): + 3.125”

Venture Lights 5.8 (8.5" axle): + 3.5"

Venture 5.8 Titanium (8.5" axle): + 3.4375

Venture 5.6 cast: +3.25

Thunder Ti Hollow Lite 148: +3.25

Independent 139 Titanium: +3.00 in

Thunder 147 Hollow Light: +3.3125 in


Destruco D2 Mids: +3.125

Thunder 161 (9.125" axle) +3.10" wb (52mm height)

Indy 215 Stage 11 (10" axle) + 3.00" wb (55mm height)

ACE 66 (9.35" axle) +2.65" wb (54mm height)


Film 6.0 raws: +3.13"

Venture 5.6 V-hollows: +3.38"


Tensor Maglight Low 5.5: +3.15"
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Indy Standard: 3"
Indy Mid: 3"
Royal Standard: 3.05"
Indy Forged: 3.125"
Thunder Standard: 3.125"
Thunder Forged: 3.25"
Venture Cast: 3.25"
Venture Forged: 3.35"
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Got it from this thread: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0

Much obliged! Appreciate it greatly.

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Re: Truck set-ups
« Reply #11969 on: June 28, 2024, 01:07:40 AM »
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Seeing that for ACE 44s probably explains why I don’t like mine. They feel CRAZY compared to my other trucks. Gotta leave them at the DIY or something.
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i don’t believe in the effective wheelbase talk, mainly because of my experience with the ace classic trucks: i need to use those trucks with a 14” wb, and large wheels, to get good pop.
the effective wheelbase ideas would tell me to do the opposite.
no marooch, no

I kind of agree, although wb does matter. I tried to do some geometry calculations few months ago and it quickly gets very complex. Wheelbase, truck offset, truck height, wheel size, weight of trucks and wheels, tail length, tail angle and fingers of flat. Very difficult to be conclusive.