Truck set-ups

[j....soy.....]

Yeah, I’d just tighten them up and over time loosen them.  They are more squirrelly, but not like an ace.  How long have you been skating them?

[Willie]

^Only a day so far and it was only transition. I’ll give it more time for sure. It didn’t feel squirrelly until I was hauling ass though, which makes it hard to gauge/trust. It’s fine until it’s “oh shit.”

[intendedreceivers]

^Only a day so far and it was only transition. I’ll give it more time for sure. It didn’t feel squirrelly until I was hauling ass though, which makes it hard to gauge/trust. It’s fine until it’s “oh shit.”

Honestly, those red Indy aftermarkets are notoriously shitty. If you can find a set of the newer stock bushings (they’re kind of a rich mandarin orange color, shiny finish, semi-translucent), they’re actually really good. The other Indy aftermarkets and the DLX Bait & Tackle/Supercush bushings both seem to work well. Those red ones are just bad, though. Give something else a go before you you give up on ’em.

[Mbrimson88]

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^Only a day so far and it was only transition. I’ll give it more time for sure. It didn’t feel squirrelly until I was hauling ass though, which makes it hard to gauge/trust. It’s fine until it’s “oh shit.”

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Honestly, those red Indy aftermarkets are notoriously shitty. If you can find a set of the newer stock bushings (they’re kind of a rich mandarin orange color, shiny finish, semi-translucent), they’re actually really good. The other Indy aftermarkets and the DLX Bait & Tackle/Supercush bushings both seem to work well. Those red ones are just bad, though. Give something else a go before you you give up on ’em.

Totally going to echo this, even try whatever was in your old Thunder or Venture trucks as they might work better.

The turn will be a little quicker on Indy than Venture and feel different to Thunder, not good or bad, just different, so it does take a bit to get used to.

[mynameisnotjeff]

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^Only a day so far and it was only transition. I’ll give it more time for sure. It didn’t feel squirrelly until I was hauling ass though, which makes it hard to gauge/trust. It’s fine until it’s “oh shit.”

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Honestly, those red Indy aftermarkets are notoriously shitty. If you can find a set of the newer stock bushings (they’re kind of a rich mandarin orange color, shiny finish, semi-translucent), they’re actually really good. The other Indy aftermarkets and the DLX Bait & Tackle/Supercush bushings both seem to work well. Those red ones are just bad, though. Give something else a go before you you give up on ’em.

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Totally going to echo this, even try whatever was in your old Thunder or Venture trucks as they might work better.

The turn will be a little quicker on Indy than Venture and feel different to Thunder, not good or bad, just different, so it does take a bit to get used to.

If I may be allowed to interject.
I have been the victim of wanting to swap this or that early on. But it takes some time to make a change and get used to it. While you are missing out on the orange bushings, run your current ones for a few days/sessions.

If it’s really not working out, make a swap but only after a while. You can’t change something and expect a solution immediately.

(He says as he has multiple set ups and approaches the same curb like he’s golfing)

[Mbrimson88]

If I may be allowed to interject.
I have been the victim of wanting to swap this or that early on. But it takes some time to make a change and get used to it. While you are missing out on the orange bushings, run your current ones for a few days/sessions.

If it’s really not working out, make a swap but only after a while. You can’t change something and expect a solution immediately.

(He says as he has multiple set ups and approaches the same curb like he’s golfing)

That definitely rings true.

Some guys I skate with are instantly mad at their bushings / trucks, usually because they are different to how the board felt before and I always say you got to take your time and wear them in or get used to them without trying to go hard right from go, as they will most likely blow out or have more problems from that.

Funny that some people hate new bushings but happily put nicely worn in bushings. without complaints, even if it is only one session I have had on their bushings, just to roll around and not do much and then give them back and they are already so much "more normal" so it is worth just having a casual roll for a first session on new trucks / different bushings.

[sebbo]

after recommending royal trucks to a friend of mine, he now skates royal baseplates with thunder titanium hangers He has definitely lost his mind.

[GBLange]

Lunar Light III. made from magnesium & titanium. 242grams

[PuffinMuffin]

I want to hit axle on these Polsters, but the kingpin started to catch as the trucks lost material. I devised a shitty plan to avoid buying new trucks. Banged out the old kingpins with a hammer, and pounded in a set of ~5mm shorter Theeve Ti kingpins.



Then took some fully threaded non-serrated 3/8-24 flange nuts like these:
https://boltsandnuts.com/shop/3-8-24-grade-8-hex-flange-prevailing-torque-top-lock-nuts-phos-oil-297987

And sawed the nuts down to size with a handsaw in a bench vice.



Put some Vibra tite VC-3 (the best threadlock I've found for inverted setups) on the threads. Let dry for 30 mins, then threaded the nuts on.



I was worried a skate tool wouldn't engage with how low profile the "nut" is, but it works fine, surprisingly, even after the nut got all chewed up from grinding and bashing coping. A gray-haired British man would call this "bodge", but whatever fuck it, it works.

[moonordie]

I want to hit axle on these Polsters, but the kingpin started to catch as the trucks lost material. I devised a shitty plan to avoid buying new trucks. Banged out the old kingpins with a hammer, and pounded in a set of ~5mm shorter Theeve Ti kingpins.



Then took some fully threaded non-serrated 3/8-24 flange nuts like these:
https://boltsandnuts.com/shop/3-8-24-grade-8-hex-flange-prevailing-torque-top-lock-nuts-phos-oil-297987

And sawed the nuts down to size with a handsaw in a bench vice.



Put some Vibra tite VC-3 (the best threadlock I've found for inverted setups) on the threads. Let dry for 30 mins, then threaded the nuts on.



I was worried a skate tool wouldn't engage with how low profile the "nut" is, but it works fine, surprisingly, even after the nut got all chewed up from grinding and bashing coping. A gray-haired British man would call this "bodge", but whatever fuck it, it works.

Damn, that's serious dedication.

[hiljentaa]

Insanity. Love it.

What's the deal with those Polster trucks? Are they a direct copy of Thunders?

[goodatmeth]

Insanity. Love it.

What's the deal with those Polster trucks? Are they a direct copy of Thunders?

Venture software running on thunder hardware

[BL0B]

I want to hit axle on these Polsters, but the kingpin started to catch as the trucks lost material. I devised a shitty plan to avoid buying new trucks. Banged out the old kingpins with a hammer, and pounded in a set of ~5mm shorter Theeve Ti kingpins.


Then took some fully threaded non-serrated 3/8-24 flange nuts like these:
https://boltsandnuts.com/shop/3-8-24-grade-8-hex-flange-prevailing-torque-top-lock-nuts-phos-oil-297987

And sawed the nuts down to size with a handsaw in a bench vice.



Put some Vibra tite VC-3 (the best threadlock I've found for inverted setups) on the threads. Let dry for 30 mins, then threaded the nuts on.



I was worried a skate tool wouldn't engage with how low profile the "nut" is, but it works fine, surprisingly, even after the nut got all chewed up from grinding and bashing coping. A gray-haired British man would call this "bodge", but whatever fuck it, it works.

what's up with your mounting hardware nuts? look cool...

[logjammin]

Looks like the axle is cracked in the little opening where you can see it? Also curious about those mounting nuts as well. Need that shit.

[Xen]

Look like standard 7/8-9 flange nuts (left one anyway) - you can get fancy ones from RC car/copter kits.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GVH6DJK/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07GVH6DJK&pd_rd_w=5liGl&content-id=amzn1.sym.f734d1a2-0bf9-4a26-ad34-2e1b969a5a75&pf_rd_p=f734d1a2-0bf9-4a26-ad34-2e1b969a5a75&pf_rd_r=T480Z74XR6QVDQWRXVCB&pd_rd_wg=43qQZ&pd_rd_r=c2306f7a-92f1-467d-83bb-231a7ea24631&s=industrial&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWw

https://www.ebay.com/itm/143978952661?chn=ps&var=443250839988&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1RQs-mw-DRRO1UXKWh5xbIA15&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=443250839988_143978952661&targetid=1584739237574&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9031041&poi=&campaignid=19894961968&mkgroupid=148855406073&rlsatarget=pla-1584739237574&abcId=9307911&merchantid=424807978&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAnrOtBhDIARIsAFsSe52zFbC9nXQtnanlUxjL7dCIp4-MVAdS4Ml8V7xcuOEbTV3RE5Y1o0MaApOJEALw_wcB

No idea the conversion for M 5/6+ sizing to 7/8" threads is tho.

[Ant]

https://www.ti64.com/product-p/3349.htm

Titanium flange nuts

[PuffinMuffin]

https://www.ti64.com/product-p/3349.htm

Titanium flange nuts

Those look interesting, but wow, expensive. The nuts in the photo came from an aeronautics parts seller on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/254802241036?hash=item3b5365a60c:g:DMQAAOSwbYFfz7al

I bought twelve Ti 10-32 7/8th bolts from them during covid for $12 and were kind enough to send the nuts free. The nuts are smaller than normal hardware, and the kick side hardware is recessed under the hanger like Venture so with a 1/4" bit extension it's really easy to swap out a deck with a drill. There's no nylock on the nuts, but fingernail polish works as a cheap/light thread locker. The hardware hasn't loosened despite skating pre-war cobbles and tiles almost every day. It was kind of a stupid project, but I enjoy tinkering.

The axle does look cracked, it's just some nasty gunk from the local free indoor though

[munchbox]

@PuffinMuffin  what kind of bushing washers are those?

[PuffinMuffin]

@PuffinMuffin  what kind of bushing washers are those?

Array washers; the same thing longboarders used before they universally boycotted them for being too self-centering. If you scrape a Bones bushings with a knife, it makes the same sound as glass fibre-reinforced plastic. So it's really fucking hard, and immalleable. If you rip apart a Bones bushing apart, the hard plastic is in the same shape as an array washer.

So I feel like I can save a lot of money just using kooky longboarder array washers while running better/longer-lasting bushings than Bones, while getting the same self-centering feel. I'm not good at skating, but I skate almost every day, and replacing Bones bushings every month got old.

[TwisT]

Lunar Light III. made from magnesium & titanium. 242grams

since 2hex is proud of their R&D they need to just go direct to consumer, or get a US distro. I don't see anyone paying the to white label these, or use this specific truck as a premium complete component. If truck nerds could put them through their paces, they become a niche truck, Like tensor was on pace to become until they fucked it all up.

[munchbox]

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@PuffinMuffin  what kind of bushing washers are those?

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Array washers; the same thing longboarders used before they universally boycotted them for being too self-centering. If you scrape a Bones bushings with a knife, it makes the same sound as glass fibre-reinforced plastic. So it's really fucking hard, and immalleable. If you rip apart a Bones bushing apart, the hard plastic is in the same shape as an array washer.

So I feel like I can save a lot of money just using kooky longboarder array washers while running better/longer-lasting bushings than Bones, while getting the same self-centering feel. I'm not good at skating, but I skate almost every day, and replacing Bones bushings every month got old.

out of stock on their website
any leads on where to find em or something similar?

[PuffinMuffin]

@munchbox

https://origindistribution.com/atlas-precision-top-hat-washer-set-silver.html

[logjammin]

Eh, those Array sleeved washers click like crazy and the sleeve part turned oval and it wouldn't fit a bushing on it anymore. Just use normal cupped washers and call it a day.

[drinny]

Eh I run these for the same reason, bones like but keep my preferred duro thane… no rounding/ovalling here.

Kingpin loose, sounds like something is loose (super soft bushings?) for that to be able to happen?

[Xen]

Eh I run these for the same reason, bones like but keep my preferred duro thane… no rounding/ovalling here.

Kingpin loose, sounds like something is loose (super soft bushings?) for that to be able to happen?

Same. Been running the same few pairs I got from Muir Skate 3+ years ago. No ovaling at all. As for clicking, only on indy with new bushings (goes away after a few sessions).

[rosemaryBB]

This has probably been tackled somewhere before, but anyone else have terrible pop with Thunders? Love the pinch, and have good flick for flip tricks on the right boards, but my pop is pretty weak always. Is this just how it is or is there some sweet spot for tail length i should be looking for or something?

[munchbox]

whats your setup

[JM]

This has probably been tackled somewhere before, but anyone else have terrible pop with Thunders? Love the pinch, and have good flick for flip tricks on the right boards, but my pop is pretty weak always. Is this just how it is or is there some sweet spot for tail length i should be looking for or something?

It’s a lower truck so your tail will hit sooner. Thus, you won’t have the same lift potential that you would with a higher truck like Indy.

Just my guess, but yes do please share setup ^

[j....soy.....]

shorter nose/tail or a small riser may help.....

[munchbox]

any recommendations on thin bushing washers?
specifically board side and not bones flats