Truck set-ups

[Rick Trapasso]

any recommendations on thin bushing washers?
specifically board side and not bones flats

No disrespect, but why do you want to do that? A thinner bottom bushing will change your truck geo and cause your pivot cups to blow out faster.

If you still want to for whatever reason just take your bottom bushing with you to the hardware store and find something with the same diameter as the bushing with your desired thickness.

[munchbox]

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any recommendations on thin bushing washers?
specifically board side and not bones flats

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No disrespect, but why do you want to do that? A thinner bottom bushing will change your truck geo and cause your pivot cups to blow out faster.

If you still want to for whatever reason just take your bottom bushing with you to the hardware store and find something with the same diameter as the bushing with your desired thickness.

i dont really care about pivot cups. i replace once and forget

tying to counteract taking a kingpin down via angle grinder
it worked with the bushings i had, not as well for the new set
not fussing about what that did to the geo

would rather not change baseplates if there are other options

[JM]

I want a washer that has the exact same diameter as kingpin, so the washer doesn’t click and clack back and forth on turns.

Drives me nuts.

[onkalo]

I want a washer that has the exact same diameter as kingpin, so the washer doesn’t click and clack back and forth on turns.

Drives me nuts.

Get some 8 mm washers and drill them to 9,5 mm. Done this couple of times and sometimes requires a little force to get them to the kingpin but they don't ever click.

[JM]

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I want a washer that has the exact same diameter as kingpin, so the washer doesn’t click and clack back and forth on turns.

Drives me nuts.

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Get some 8 mm washers and drill them to 9,5 mm. Done this couple of times and sometimes requires a little force to get them to the kingpin but they don't ever click.

Ooh, thank you. Might have to do that if there no perfect match at the hardware store.

[Banned from the room]

Those kingpin measurements that the professor and Ben are not the measurements I want.

That's kingpin clearance and grind material.

They should get the angle of the kingpin in the baseplate also the angle of the pivot

Then we might better understand why trucks turn differently and if my hypothesis is correct

[Xen]

Those kingpin measurements that the professor and Ben are not the measurements I want.

That's kingpin clearance and grind material.

They should get the angle of the kingpin in the baseplate also the angle of the pivot

Then we might better understand why trucks turn differently and if my hypothesis is correct

Def clearance/nut angle…damn, those lows haha.

[yghartsyrt]

Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?

[goodatmeth]

Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?

Sure. That's basically what you do every few seconds when you're riding a twin tail. No harm whatsoever, other than people thinking you're a god at switch fs crooks

[yghartsyrt]

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Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?

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Sure. That's basically what you do every few seconds when you're riding a twin tail. No harm whatsoever, other than people thinking you're a god at switch fs crooks

ha. It never occured to me, since i never had a truck with a low kingpin that allowed for switching hangars. Hooray for five more months of slappies on the same truck

Thanks for the confirmation

[moonordie]

Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?

I swap hangers and bushings. You'll have double truck life.

[yghartsyrt]

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Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?

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I swap hangers and bushings. You'll have double truck life.

Much appreciated – as my trucks turn quite differently, this would probably give headaches for days breaking them in again

[Xen]

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Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?

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I swap hangers and bushings. You'll have double truck life.

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Much appreciated – as my trucks turn quite differently, this would probably give headaches for days breaking them in again

Gonna lose them grooves! =(

[yghartsyrt]

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Didn’t find the answer in this thread, but only used the search function, so hopefully this isn’t asking the same question again:
Does anyone fuck with swapping the hangers, if one hanger is more abused than the other? My front hanger has taken some serious beating due to mainly skateing slappy crooks the last couple of months. Just figured, I might just swap front and back hanger instead of buying a new set of trucks.
Any downsides? What are your findings on this?

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I swap hangers and bushings. You'll have double truck life.

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Much appreciated – as my trucks turn quite differently, this would probably give headaches for days breaking them in again

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Gonna loose them grooves! =(

Not for long because new grooves will appear quickly

[Mn_Mike]

I really like Indy super soft bushings. I just leave the kingpin nut flush. I ride super loose trucks.

[Xen]

https://www.thundertrucks.com/

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Thunder_Polished_Inverted_Trucks/descpage-TUPITR.html?from=gshop&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwps-zBhAiEiwALwsVYQNybyqTqop4FNZPKWpJ4Hv2ftBGvAzuErT0prcSifbCRaNelnkpnxoCVCYQAvD_BwE


https://youtu.be/HhxB-GMfoHk?si=2qohjU_cTU013y-b

https://www.thundertrucks.com/

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Thunder_Polished_Inverted_Trucks/descpage-TUPITR.html?from=gshop&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwps-zBhAiEiwALwsVYQNybyqTqop4FNZPKWpJ4Hv2ftBGvAzuErT0prcSifbCRaNelnkpnxoCVCYQAvD_BwE


https://youtu.be/HhxB-GMfoHk?si=2qohjU_cTU013y-b

yeah, dawg: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=118215.2300

[Obijuan91]

This has probably been tackled somewhere before, but anyone else have terrible pop with Thunders? Love the pinch, and have good flick for flip tricks on the right boards, but my pop is pretty weak always. Is this just how it is or is there some sweet spot for tail length i should be looking for or something?

Risers, finally added some 1/8 risers to my Royal and made them Indy height and I love them even more now.

[dstrytruitt]

Can anyone find/share the truck brand/model-wheelbase info? I can't seem to find it.

[Scottboarding]

Can anyone find/share the truck brand/model-wheelbase info? I can't seem to find it.

Ace 44 (8.38" axle): + 2.75"

Film 5.5 (8.25" axle/6 Hole baseplate): + 2.875"

Film 5.5 (8.375 axle/4 Hole baseplate): + 3"

Independent 149 STD (8.5" axle): + 3"

Independent 169 STD (9.125" axle): + 3"

Independent 149 forged hollow (8.5" axle): + 3.1875"

Krux K4 (8.5" axle): + 2.625"

Tensor ATG Aluminium 5.5 (8.25" axle): + 3.0625"

Tensor ATG Mag 5.75 (8.5" axle): + 3.125

Thunder 149 team edition (8.5" axle): + 3.1875"

Thunder Hollow Lights 151 (8.75" axle): + 3.25"

Venture standard 5.8 (8.5" axle): + 3.25"

Venture 6.1 (8.75" axle): + 3.125”

Venture Lights 5.8 (8.5" axle): + 3.5"

Venture 5.8 Titanium (8.5" axle): + 3.4375

Venture 5.6 cast: +3.25

Thunder Ti Hollow Lite 148: +3.25

Independent 139 Titanium: +3.00 in

Thunder 147 Hollow Light: +3.3125 in

Destruco D2 Mids: +3.125

Thunder 161 (9.125" axle) +3.10" wb (52mm height)

Indy 215 Stage 11 (10" axle) + 3.00" wb (55mm height)

ACE 66 (9.35" axle) +2.65" wb (54mm height)

Film 6.0 raws: +3.13"

Venture 5.6 V-hollows: +3.38"


Tensor Maglight Low 5.5: +3.15"

Indy Standard: 3"
Indy Mid: 3"
Royal Standard: 3.05"
Indy Forged: 3.125"
Thunder Standard: 3.125"
Thunder Forged: 3.25"
Venture Cast: 3.25"
Venture Forged: 3.35"

Got it from this thread: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0

[OhioGuy]

Seeing that for ACE 44s probably explains why I don’t like mine. They feel CRAZY compared to my other trucks. Gotta leave them at the DIY or something.

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Seeing that for ACE 44s probably explains why I don’t like mine. They feel CRAZY compared to my other trucks. Gotta leave them at the DIY or something.

i don’t believe in the effective wheelbase talk, mainly because of my experience with the ace classic trucks: i need to use those trucks with a 14” wb, and large wheels, to get good pop.
the effective wheelbase ideas would tell me to do the opposite.
no marooch, no

[dstrytruitt]

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Can anyone find/share the truck brand/model-wheelbase info? I can't seem to find it.

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Ace 44 (8.38" axle): + 2.75"

Film 5.5 (8.25" axle/6 Hole baseplate): + 2.875"

Film 5.5 (8.375 axle/4 Hole baseplate): + 3"

Independent 149 STD (8.5" axle): + 3"

Independent 169 STD (9.125" axle): + 3"

Independent 149 forged hollow (8.5" axle): + 3.1875"

Krux K4 (8.5" axle): + 2.625"

Tensor ATG Aluminium 5.5 (8.25" axle): + 3.0625"

Tensor ATG Mag 5.75 (8.5" axle): + 3.125

Thunder 149 team edition (8.5" axle): + 3.1875"

Thunder Hollow Lights 151 (8.75" axle): + 3.25"

Venture standard 5.8 (8.5" axle): + 3.25"

Venture 6.1 (8.75" axle): + 3.125”

Venture Lights 5.8 (8.5" axle): + 3.5"

Venture 5.8 Titanium (8.5" axle): + 3.4375

Venture 5.6 cast: +3.25

Thunder Ti Hollow Lite 148: +3.25

Independent 139 Titanium: +3.00 in

Thunder 147 Hollow Light: +3.3125 in

Destruco D2 Mids: +3.125

Thunder 161 (9.125" axle) +3.10" wb (52mm height)

Indy 215 Stage 11 (10" axle) + 3.00" wb (55mm height)

ACE 66 (9.35" axle) +2.65" wb (54mm height)

Film 6.0 raws: +3.13"

Venture 5.6 V-hollows: +3.38"


Tensor Maglight Low 5.5: +3.15"

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Indy Standard: 3"
Indy Mid: 3"
Royal Standard: 3.05"
Indy Forged: 3.125"
Thunder Standard: 3.125"
Thunder Forged: 3.25"
Venture Cast: 3.25"
Venture Forged: 3.35"

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Got it from this thread: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0

Much obliged! Appreciate it greatly.

[Bongwater Mojito]

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Seeing that for ACE 44s probably explains why I don’t like mine. They feel CRAZY compared to my other trucks. Gotta leave them at the DIY or something.

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i don’t believe in the effective wheelbase talk, mainly because of my experience with the ace classic trucks: i need to use those trucks with a 14” wb, and large wheels, to get good pop.
the effective wheelbase ideas would tell me to do the opposite.
no marooch, no

I kind of agree, although wb does matter. I tried to do some geometry calculations few months ago and it quickly gets very complex. Wheelbase, truck offset, truck height, wheel size, weight of trucks and wheels, tail length, tail angle and fingers of flat. Very difficult to be conclusive.

[rob]

Anyone know what trucks would be similar to a old standard tensor 10?

I’ve been on the light madness and dwindled my preferred trucks down to 4 do-able trucks but 3 of 4 preferable

Of those 3 the tensor 10 regs I like a lot

Thunder 147 always a good choice

Krux k5 4.0 tall I actually like

And the truck in 4th place is everyone’s favorite in the mid or standard 139 but they don’t pop like my top 3

The top 3 with the right bushings have this quick, light, easy solid pop I have a instinct to, especially when I pop it up to my hand they feel right

[slapattack]

Posting this here in case anyones looking to fuel the truck madness:
- Thunder lights 149
- Thunder teams 151
- Indy forged 149
- New Royals 149 (comes with chocolate wheels and philips hardware)

All trucks are in good condition with newish bushings and no stripped axles.

https://www.depop.com/products/nicjacobs1-thunderindyroyal-truck-bundle-85-x3/

[Obijuan91]

So indy forged are are basically the same wb as thunder teams. Does that mean that the Indy forged would pair best with a 14’ wb then?

[Mbrimson88]

So indy forged are are basically the same wb as thunder teams. Does that mean that the Indy forged would pair best with a 14’ wb then?

Only if you prefer short wheelbases on everything.

A lot of people ride Indy forged and Thunder team / cast plates on much longer wb boards with no issues, so it is just down to the individual and how they like their boards.

For a lower truck, there might be a few differences which could be felt on boards with more or less middle board length, not wheelbase, but then it really is personal preference.

Shorter wheelbases will turn more quickly and be easier to spin, compared to longer wheelbases which turn slower in general and might feel like more effort is needed to get the board around.


Of course there will be those who will swear by this and not like that, in terms of trucks, but also preferences of bushings can go a long way to making a truck work or not work for some people as well.

A common trade up is the 92 duro bushings on Indy, just to have a little more stability, but even when I tried the 94 conical shape and sanded the top bushing down a bit, they were a little more stable but could still turn a lot more than some other harder bushing options, with less chance of wheelbite compared to stock or softer bushings.


There is not really any definite right or wrong answer to what trucks work best with what size board, wheelbase, or other pairings, but personal preference plays a huge part in anything to do with truck set ups.

[Obijuan91]

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So indy forged are are basically the same wb as thunder teams. Does that mean that the Indy forged would pair best with a 14’ wb then?

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Only if you prefer short wheelbases on everything.

A lot of people ride Indy forged and Thunder team / cast plates on much longer wb boards with no issues, so it is just down to the individual and how they like their boards.

For a lower truck, there might be a few differences which could be felt on boards with more or less middle board length, not wheelbase, but then it really is personal preference.

Shorter wheelbases will turn more quickly and be easier to spin, compared to longer wheelbases which turn slower in general and might feel like more effort is needed to get the board around.


Of course there will be those who will swear by this and not like that, in terms of trucks, but also preferences of bushings can go a long way to making a truck work or not work for some people as well.

A common trade up is the 92 duro bushings on Indy, just to have a little more stability, but even when I tried the 94 conical shape and sanded the top bushing down a bit, they were a little more stable but could still turn a lot more than some other harder bushing options, with less chance of wheelbite compared to stock or softer bushings.


There is not really any definite right or wrong answer to what trucks work best with what size board, wheelbase, or other pairings, but personal preference plays a huge part in anything to do with truck set ups.

Subjective!!!! Lol the way you explain it tho thunders would make more sense on a 14’ cuz it would turn better.

I’m chasing a board pop/flip feel back from 2015 I had some Indy forged polished and they got stolen so now I’m confused on the specs of my old trucks to replicate it

[Mbrimson88]

Subjective!!!! Lol the way you explain it tho thunders would make more sense on a 14’ cuz it would turn better.

I’m chasing a board pop/flip feel back from 2015 I had some Indy forged polished and they got stolen so now I’m confused on the specs of my old trucks to replicate it

As you said, Thunder (or even Venture) are often the truck of choice for people on 14" wb, but you can still ride Indy in any option on 14" wb just as easily too.

At least the current Indy variants have been around for twelve or more years, so yes, they would have been the same back then, unless you had older trucks, eg Stage 9 or Stage 10 in the forged, which would have been closer to the current Indy mid truck in height, at 52 mm tall.

For decks from 2015, there are still a lot of the same shapes and boards currently in rotation, but maybe not as many in the boards under 8" now, as there used to be back then.  What size board are you riding or wanting to set up?


* I saw that Real Chima board you posted, same shape Mason rides on Indy trucks, so I guess that would work nicely, but you also said 139s so going to set up an 8.0 or similar?  DLX has some 14" wb or close to it, good shapes so a few options that seem pretty good.

[Obijuan91]

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Subjective!!!! Lol the way you explain it tho thunders would make more sense on a 14’ cuz it would turn better.

I’m chasing a board pop/flip feel back from 2015 I had some Indy forged polished and they got stolen so now I’m confused on the specs of my old trucks to replicate it

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As you said, Thunder (or even Venture) are often the truck of choice for people on 14" wb, but you can still ride Indy in any option on 14" wb just as easily too.

At least the current Indy variants have been around for twelve or more years, so yes, they would have been the same back then, unless you had older trucks, eg Stage 9 or Stage 10 in the forged, which would have been closer to the current Indy mid truck in height, at 52 mm tall.

For decks from 2015, there are still a lot of the same shapes and boards currently in rotation, but maybe not as many in the boards under 8" now, as there used to be back then.  What size board are you riding or wanting to set up?


* I saw that Real Chima board you posted, same shape Mason rides on Indy trucks, so I guess that would work nicely, but you also said 139s so going to set up an 8.0 or similar?  DLX has some 14" wb or close to it, good shapes so a few options

 that seem pretty good.

I guess I’m just wondering if my old trucks were actually forged even tho they were polished standards cuz if that were true then they’d stand at 53.5 with the extended wheelbase. I tried 14 on regular indys and it felt too squirly. Might try it with the forged baseplates if I ever get a 14 again. I got a couple of 14.25s lined up might switch over a standard base plate and see how they feel