Spitfire formula four

[Roisto]

Loophole wheels were at least at some point claimed to be from the F4 scientist guy by someone on here. And the rumor that he’s of Spitfire has been going on for at least a year and that is the reason for the recent F4 shortages. Nothing’s been confirmed though. I think concerned_parent took it insta like a man and asked Jim T and he said the shortage was due to some issues at the facility or something like that.

[thebacker]

A dude came into my local recently. He claimed to be a former chemist for Spitfire and he had his own wheels to sell. He said that they were his version of F4’s. They looked like F4’s. The shop got a set but haven’t skated them yet.

Anyone hear of anything like this?

I did hear a rumor they fired the guy that created the F4’s basically.

Ravioli ravioli give me the formioli

[ClownOfTheDay]

Loophole wheels were at least at some point claimed to be from the F4 scientist guy by someone on here. And the rumor that he’s of Spitfire has been going on for at least a year and that is the reason for the recent F4 shortages. Nothing’s been confirmed though. I think concerned_parent took it insta like a man and asked Jim T and he said the shortage was due to some issues at the facility or something like that.

it was unknown soldier.

[Roisto]

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Loophole wheels were at least at some point claimed to be from the F4 scientist guy by someone on here. And the rumor that he’s of Spitfire has been going on for at least a year and that is the reason for the recent F4 shortages. Nothing’s been confirmed though. I think concerned_parent took it insta like a man and asked Jim T and he said the shortage was due to some issues at the facility or something like that.

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it was unknown soldier.

My bad. I suck at remembering people’s names. 😬 I do remember that sig though and his avatar. 😊

[ClownOfTheDay]

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Loophole wheels were at least at some point claimed to be from the F4 scientist guy by someone on here. And the rumor that he’s of Spitfire has been going on for at least a year and that is the reason for the recent F4 shortages. Nothing’s been confirmed though. I think concerned_parent took it insta like a man and asked Jim T and he said the shortage was due to some issues at the facility or something like that.

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it was unknown soldier.

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My bad. I suck at remembering people’s names. 😬 I do remember that sig though and his avatar. 😊

all good homie.

[pizzafliptofakie]

I did indeed take it to Insta like a man.

[satan]

Hey long time lurker here and a first post 

Google nfgmfg and it points to this guy
https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-holm-018909a

Founder and Manager
NFG Manufacturing, LLC
Aug 2017 – Present. 2 years 5 months

Deluxe Distribution
Materials Advisor and Technical Consultant for Manufacturing
Jan 2017 – Jun 2017. 6 months

Pointech and Deluxe Distribution
Program Manager
Jun 2014 – Dec 2016. 2 years 7 months

Pointech and Deluxe Distribution
Technical and Business Consultant
Feb 2014 – May 2014. 4 months

I don't know any gossip.. just thinking..
Loophole sounds like a jab at a non-compete contract
NFG = no fucking good?

And see Pointech in the LinkedIn link? There's a business page that says they operate out of Ermico's building. Ok, nothing crazy there. But moving down to BBS in TJ? Did DLX quietly buy into BBS or did I just never read about that?

[spacial_profiling]

Loophole wheels were at least at some point claimed to be from the F4 scientist guy by someone on here. And the rumor that he’s of Spitfire has been going on for at least a year and that is the reason for the recent F4 shortages. Nothing’s been confirmed though. I think concerned_parent took it insta like a man and asked Jim T and he said the shortage was due to some issues at the facility or something like that.

Yeah peeps were saying Loopholes are pretty much formula 5’s. Look great to me. Really want them. Just haven’t pulled the trighair. And they’re on TOA but their 20% off ended... but yeah, their conicals look amazing.

[Sundaynuggets]

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Loophole wheels were at least at some point claimed to be from the F4 scientist guy by someone on here. And the rumor that he’s of Spitfire has been going on for at least a year and that is the reason for the recent F4 shortages. Nothing’s been confirmed though. I think concerned_parent took it insta like a man and asked Jim T and he said the shortage was due to some issues at the facility or something like that.

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Yeah peeps were saying Loopholes are pretty much formula 5’s. Look great to me. Really want them. Just haven’t pulled the trighair. And they’re on TOA but their 20% off ended... but yeah, their conicals look amazing.

Does Loophole make 99a? I got a set of unlabeled Loophole sample wheels from someone and they felt harder than my F4’s so I rode them for like 20 min and then switched back to my normal wheels, and I’ve never ridden the harder F4’s so I couldn’t really compare them. I would like to try Loopholes though

[Woos]

Beautiful white F4s back in stock. Neckface collabs as well and they look fucking sick.

The beloved 99a Conical Fulls in 53 and 55mm is one of them.  Not sure why they wouldn’t include the most popular Conical Full size (54mm) but oh well.

You guys are lucky I’m sharing this info... I could have been a dick and bought up all the 53mm Conical Fulls but it’s the holidays and I can’t justify spending more money on myself.  I should probably buy a set before they’re gone though.  Wish they did some Neckface 99a Radial Slims. :/

99a Conical Full Neckface x Rowan (53 & 55mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Rowan_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NRWH.html

99a F4 Classic Neckface x Spanky (52 & 54mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Spanky_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NSWH.html

99a F4 Radial Neckface x Kader (58mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Kader_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NKWH.html

99a F4 Radial Neckface x Kader (54 & 58mm)
https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/wheels/spitfire/f4-99-kader-neckface-radial-wheels-white-pid-53792

Those are the cheapest I found them ($34.99).  Enjoy.

[camel filters]

Beautiful white F4s back in stock. Neckface collabs as well and they look fucking sick.

The beloved 99a Conical Fulls in 53 and 55mm is one of them.  Not sure why they wouldn’t include the most popular Conical Full size (54mm) but oh well.

You guys are lucky I’m sharing this info... I could have been a dick and bought up all the 53mm Conical Fulls but it’s the holidays and I can’t justify spending more money on myself.  I should probably buy a set before they’re gone though.  Wish they did some Neckface 99a Radial Slims. :/

99a Conical Full Neckface x Rowan (53 & 55mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Rowan_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NRWH.html

99a F4 Classic Neckface x Spanky (52 & 54mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Spanky_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NSWH.html

99a F4 Radial Neckface x Kader (58mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Kader_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NKWH.html

99a F4 Radial Neckface x Kader (54 & 58mm)
https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/wheels/spitfire/f4-99-kader-neckface-radial-wheels-white-pid-53792

Those are the cheapest I found them ($34.99).  Enjoy.

Damn Skatewarehouse is doing 15% off too. Thanks Woos.

[Woos]

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Beautiful white F4s back in stock. Neckface collabs as well and they look fucking sick.

The beloved 99a Conical Fulls in 53 and 55mm is one of them.  Not sure why they wouldn’t include the most popular Conical Full size (54mm) but oh well.

You guys are lucky I’m sharing this info... I could have been a dick and bought up all the 53mm Conical Fulls but it’s the holidays and I can’t justify spending more money on myself.  I should probably buy a set before they’re gone though.  Wish they did some Neckface 99a Radial Slims. :/

99a Conical Full Neckface x Rowan (53 & 55mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Rowan_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NRWH.html

99a F4 Classic Neckface x Spanky (52 & 54mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Spanky_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NSWH.html

99a F4 Radial Neckface x Kader (58mm)
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Spitfire_F4_Neckface_Kader_99a_Wheels/descpage-SF4NKWH.html

99a F4 Radial Neckface x Kader (54 & 58mm)
https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/wheels/spitfire/f4-99-kader-neckface-radial-wheels-white-pid-53792

Those are the cheapest I found them ($34.99).  Enjoy.

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Damn Skatewarehouse is doing 15% off too. Thanks Woos.

No problem, enjoy!  I hope they did a decent sized run because these things are going to sell like crazy.

Update: Looks like Skatewarehouse is temporarily not allowing people to but those wheels but they should be soon, idk when though.  Tactics has them for $34.99 as well and I believe they have free shipping for everyone at any price currently.  If it’s showing a shipping charge try clearing your cookies, use a VPN or use a different browser/computer/phone.

[Kevve]

Is there a big difference in fell between the conical & conical full?

 Im mostly riding street and thinking maybe the extra width will be overkill?

[colinquinn]

Is there a big difference in fell between the conical & conical full?

 Im mostly riding street and thinking maybe the extra width will be overkill?

It's a pretty small difference, but I'd recommend going with the full if you're not in parks all the time. The extra width helps with iffy concrete.

[Woos]

Is there a big difference in fell between the conical & conical full?

 Im mostly riding street and thinking maybe the extra width will be overkill?

Personally I find the difference quite large.  What size trucks do you ride?  8.5”+ I actually find Conical Fulls to be the better choice.  8.0” I prefer Radial Slims or Tablets but I’d prefer Conical over Conical Full.

Wider will almost always ride better but I need a decent amount of space to grind.

I guess it depends on where you live as well.  I’m Midwest and a lot of the time I’m in smaller towns and cities where spots are extra crusty.  This is when I actually want wide wheels like Conical Fulls.  If I was just riding comfy and smooth spots/parks I’d be sticking to Radial Slims.

If you ride larger transition you’ll also want the Fulls. Smaller transition the regular Conicals, Tablets or Radial Slims might be nice since you have more truck to grind and stall with.

[spacial_profiling]

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Is there a big difference in fell between the conical & conical full?

 Im mostly riding street and thinking maybe the extra width will be overkill?

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Personally I find the difference quite large.  What size trucks do you ride?  8.5”+ I actually find Conical Fulls to be the better choice.  8.0” I prefer Radial Slims or Tablets but I’d prefer Conical over Conical Full.

Wider will almost always ride better but I need a decent amount of space to grind.

I guess it depends on where you live as well.  I’m Midwest and a lot of the time I’m in smaller towns and cities where spots are extra crusty.  This is when I actually want wide wheels like Conical Fulls.  If I was just riding comfy and smooth spots/parks I’d be sticking to Radial Slims.

If you ride larger transition you’ll also want the Fulls. Smaller transition the regular Conicals, Tablets or Radial Slims might be nice since you have more truck to grind and stall with.

Fulls are my preference on 149 +. Annnd I seen a lot of flatbar and rail skaters lately opting for the reduced grind room because the wider wheels actually seem to help them lock in better with having more depth and shorter distance to lock on wider set ups. Prob not preferred on sub 8.5 boards/trucks.

I fuck with 55/56/58 fulls personally and don’t grind rails and love em. Plus I like the weight distribution for flip tricks. Started going back to classic shape but the fulls are my fave for sure and what I got back to.

[Kevve]

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Is there a big difference in fell between the conical & conical full?

 Im mostly riding street and thinking maybe the extra width will be overkill?

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Personally I find the difference quite large.  What size trucks do you ride?  8.5”+ I actually find Conical Fulls to be the better choice.  8.0” I prefer Radial Slims or Tablets but I’d prefer Conical over Conical Full.

Wider will almost always ride better but I need a decent amount of space to grind.

I guess it depends on where you live as well.  I’m Midwest and a lot of the time I’m in smaller towns and cities where spots are extra crusty.  This is when I actually want wide wheels like Conical Fulls.  If I was just riding comfy and smooth spots/parks I’d be sticking to Radial Slims.

If you ride larger transition you’ll also want the Fulls. Smaller transition the regular Conicals, Tablets or Radial Slims might be nice since you have more truck to grind and stall with.

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Fulls are my preference on 149 +. Annnd I seen a lot of flatbar and rail skaters lately opting for the reduced grind room because the wider wheels actually seem to help them lock in better with having more depth and shorter distance to lock on wider set ups. Prob not preferred on sub 8.5 boards/trucks.

I fuck with 55/56/58 fulls personally and don’t grind rails and love em. Plus I like the weight distribution for flip tricks. Started going back to classic shape but the fulls are my fave for sure and what I got back to.

Thanks for all the input guys. To reduce the width of grind room sounds really promising as i've never practised grinds much.

My only concern is to not be able to cruise around as before. I want to try a 52-53mm again to get a lighter setup, easier flip etc. Think i'll just have to get used to a harder wheel and it will be all good.

[slappy50]

Hey fellas, just wondering what shape of wheel would be best for mostly park skating (mainly bowl), as well as cruising around on decent streets. The only thing that I really want is for them to be 101a. Was thinking 101a 56mm conical fulls. opinions?

thanks, and s h a l o m

[Xen]

Hey fellas, just wondering what shape of wheel would be best for mostly park skating (mainly bowl), as well as cruising around on decent streets. The only thing that I really want is for them to be 101a. Was thinking 101a 56mm conical fulls. opinions?

thanks, and s h a l o m

Conicals probably?

[moonordie]

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Hey fellas, just wondering what shape of wheel would be best for mostly park skating (mainly bowl), as well as cruising around on decent streets. The only thing that I really want is for them to be 101a. Was thinking 101a 56mm conical fulls. opinions?

thanks, and s h a l o m

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Conicals probably?

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[slappy50]

is there a noticeable difference between conicals and conical fulls? also, what size should I opt for?

[Skart]

Yes bro damn

If u in dem streets or riding big walz get full conicals

U flippn wood and ride same same truck/board size get sub 54z. If not, get use to riding 54+ and accounting for overhang/wheel peepage at the sidez

Lmk if anyone else needs da tldr tldr of 50+ pages of what we've learned on Slap

B careful tho, the info doznt want 2 b lernd

[slappy50]

Thanks, I’m currently riding 55mm 101a lockins and thought the conical fulls were the best match. I was mainly looking for something similar but symmetrical in shape. I’m on 159 indys so grind room is t a big deal.

[Xen]

Thanks, I’m currently riding 55mm 101a lockins and thought the conical fulls were the best match. I was mainly looking for something similar but symmetrical in shape. I’m on 159 indys so grind room is t a big deal.

54mm Conicals sound like a good fit - what's your street game like? tech wizardy or just 'street skating'?

[slappy50]

definitely not tech, just 'street skating, trying to slappy and cruising around

any idea where to get these bad boys? I tried CCS, but alas, nothing. I'm in Canada and it almost seems completely out of stock (spitfire famine?) as the duties are steep, but if nothing else comes through, US it is

[Woos]

definitely not tech, just 'street skating, trying to slappy and cruising around

any idea where to get these bad boys? I tried CCS, but alas, nothing. I'm in Canada and it almost seems completely out of stock (spitfire famine?) as the duties are steep, but if nothing else comes through, US it is

If you want to slappy too I really recommend Radial Slims or Radials. I prefer the rounded edge for that. Tons of contact area on both and the Slims have an awesome shape for locking in as well.

Tactics, Skatewarehouse, Skatepark of Tampa, SoCal Skateshop, CCS, Zumiez, and WarehouseSkateboards are my go to places to buy F4s. You gotta check often as they sell out quick and restock randomly.

Conical Fulls and Radials in dope Neckface collab colorways are now available at most of them.  Tactics, SW, and a few others have them in stock.

[slappy50]

The wheels I was peeping were these bad boys https://thedriveshop.ca/products/spitfire-f4-101d-conical-full-56mm?_pos=3&_sid=489851c11&_ss=r
And they’re near where I live so they’re one of my ideals. The only radial slims i could find were 99a 53 which would be my last ditch option. 56mm i could wear down as im sliding a lot. i couldn’t find conicals anywhere really besides Australia and London.

EDIT: found em at SPoT but I’d be paying like half the price for shipping

[HyenaChaser]

The wheels I was peeping were these bad boys https://thedriveshop.ca/products/spitfire-f4-101d-conical-full-56mm?_pos=3&_sid=489851c11&_ss=r
And they’re near where I live so they’re one of my ideals. The only radial slims i could find were 99a 53 which would be my last ditch option. 56mm i could wear down as im sliding a lot. i couldn’t find conicals anywhere really besides Australia and London.

EDIT: found em at SPoT but I’d be paying like half the price for shipping

56 conical fulls are my favorite. If you’re skating a lot they will wear down, mine are currently closer to 53 after probably a year

[spacial_profiling]

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The wheels I was peeping were these bad boys https://thedriveshop.ca/products/spitfire-f4-101d-conical-full-56mm?_pos=3&_sid=489851c11&_ss=r
And they’re near where I live so they’re one of my ideals. The only radial slims i could find were 99a 53 which would be my last ditch option. 56mm i could wear down as im sliding a lot. i couldn’t find conicals anywhere really besides Australia and London.

EDIT: found em at SPoT but I’d be paying like half the price for shipping

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56 conical fulls are my favorite. If you’re skating a lot they will wear down, mine are currently closer to 53 after probably a year

 

Those the ones!

[slappy50]

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The wheels I was peeping were these bad boys https://thedriveshop.ca/products/spitfire-f4-101d-conical-full-56mm?_pos=3&_sid=489851c11&_ss=r
And they’re near where I live so they’re one of my ideals. The only radial slims i could find were 99a 53 which would be my last ditch option. 56mm i could wear down as im sliding a lot. i couldn’t find conicals anywhere really besides Australia and London.

EDIT: found em at SPoT but I’d be paying like half the price for shipping

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56 conical fulls are my favorite. If you’re skating a lot they will wear down, mine are currently closer to 53 after probably a year

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Those the ones!

Ok boys, I think those the ones then. I slid 55mm lock-ins to 52 pretty quick so they should break in nice. Thanks for the help