Pro-Trump Skaters?

[pabloalvarado]

Wait... has that girl in Pablo's sig always had panties on? 

You are talking about the important stuff. Apparently...

[not_ericricks]

A lot of slap voted Trump, you can't blame them for keeping their vote to themselves.... look at this AIDS of a thread

Ummmm. Look at our useless prime minister

[mtvic]

Lurper murked it, thank you.  The problem I think lies with the youth, they're too busy to read history and too doubting to believe it, hence the non issue in recreating it (Hitler, Mussolini, Or most of Latin America 20th century).  I hope we don't lose too much as a nation before the lazy realize that they need to participate in democracy and vote:  sure not every election is legit but we need to get the kids over the idea that their vote doesn't matter, it does, this is evidenced by President Obama winning twice and now the Russian puppet winning while telling everyone he has a hard on for Putin.  My theory is that in order for participation to increase amongst the millennials  we need to digitize voting and make the act more transparent, a 21st century make over like what has been done to the taxicab industry by uber, and the hotel Industry by airbnb.

[not_ericricks]

Lol hard on for putin

[somethingmustbreaknow]

This has to be the absolute worst thread on SLAP. It is basically an example of what happens when blue and red Facebook feeds collide.

All sorts of strong opinions that just repeat common sense talking points. Most posters seem to have little no idea what they are talking about. Few appear to have a strong understanding of US economic or social history. And certainly, no understanding of the actual theories that underline the dominant economic philosophies in the West. Not one person has mentioned Keynesian economics nor has anyone mentioned Friedman's free-market economics (right). No one has mentioned the Fordist era of production or the post-Fordist era (1970-ish to today). Most amazingly, neo-liberalism, the dominant economic philosophy (derived from a bastardization of Friedman's work), is conspicuously missing from the "researched" discussion. Neo-liberalism has been the dominant way of governing ever since the late 70s (see http://www.sok.bz/web/media/video/ABriefHistoryNeoliberalism.pdf). It was cemented into Western politics when Thatcher and Reagan (the right) weakened labor and again when Clinton and Blair (the left) followed suit after Dukasis's devistating defeat to Bush in 88 (a presidential race that also including a great deal of race-based fear-baiting see Bush's Willie Horton advertisement and see http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/14624740222228536).

The notion that everyone got along in the 80s is nothing short of absurd and this idea shows a poor understanding of social history in the US. In 85 over 50% of whites agreed it was ok to discriminate against buyers of homes based on race, and nearly 30% favored laws against interracial marriage and 30% thought it a good idea to segregate neighborhoods. Reagan enjoyed a 25% approval rating from black Americans and 56% of black Americans thought he was racist. In 1990 40% of Americans would object if a close relative married a Latino. �(https://journalistsresource.org/studies/society/race-society/white-racial-attitudes-over-time-data-general-social-survey, http://ropercenter.cornell.edu/public-opinion-on-civil-rights-reflections-on-the-civil-rights-act-of-1964/, https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/public-perspective/ppscan/12/12012.pdf, and http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/s9910.pdf).

Furthermore, the 80s marked an important moment in relation to race relations. It was when the already weak social safety net dropped away from the inner city blacks, the black economies continued to crumble (the inner city went from a segregated labor pool to segregated pool of superfluous labor), and the prison system really started filling up with minorities. Around 1950 prisons were 70% white by 1989 blacks made up the majority in prison system. Not to mention the tough on crime/war on drugs, which overwhelmingly affected black citizens that correlated with intense moral panic surrounding the " wellfare queen," a stereotype that was a useful tool to assist Reagan in dismantling the welfare state that had existed from the 30s to the mid 70s (see http://loicwacquant.net/assets/Papers/DEADLYSYMBIOSISPRISONGHETTO.pdf.) None of this strikes me as a time "when everyone got along."
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Even beneath the broader themes, few PALS seem to be informed about any of the candidates or their supporters. Instead, it seems to be nothing more than base level hatred of the candidates, their supporters, and each other. If you are looking for easy politicians to vilify, Clinton and Trump are probably the two easiest (no other presidential candidates have had their levels of unlikability and fewer than half of their supporters "strongly supported them. (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-distaste-for-both-trump-and-clinton-is-record-breaking/ http://www.people-press.org/2016/07/07/2-voter-general-election-preferences/).

Clinton. Came in as a legacy politician, which was a rather unappealing image. She represents the business side of the democratic party (possibly, this has something to do with her past as a republican Goldwater Girl). Her ties to Wall Street and big donors did not make her appealing. Moreover, her E-mail server was inexcusable. (Sadly, this is just use to vilify Clinton and not create a mass movement to make sure all politicians and gov employees/politicians are using their .gov E-mails). Her "America is great already" comment wasn't a good thing to say to the large number of Americans who have basically no savings (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/can-you-guess-how-many-americans-have-absolutely-no-savings-at-all/). Moreover, she carried the stigma of Benghazi, which a 7 million dollar republican congressional inquiry came to the conclusion it was not her fault (see http://intelligence.house.gov/sites/intelligence.house.gov/files/documents/benghazi%20report.pdf or http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/us/politics/hillary-clinton-benghazi.html?_r=0).

Furthermore, she represented a continuation of the present. This was a good and terrible all at once. America's unemployment rate was less than 5% (what many economists view as the ideal number), America's investment in clean energy was improving (note: roof top panels seem to be an inefficient way to spend gov $ on solar, however, solar plants end up being a good investment), housing prices (good for old people) and the stock market have returned to pre-recession levels, and Obamacare helped quite a few people, and off shoring has slowed and manufacturing jobs have slowly started to return to the us (http://www.newyorker.com/business/currency/why-donald-trump-is-wrong-about-manufacturing-jobs-and-china). However, Clinton representing a continuation of the present was an extreme negative in the sense that income equality is continuing to rise, cost of housing has increased significantly (bad for young people), no solid solution for healthcare issues, low skill manufacturing positions aren't coming back, service jobs don't pay enough to live, the "gig-economy" and automation are threats to workers of all skill levels, the boomers are rightfully anxious about retirement (because pension plans are a thing of the past and they have done a poor job of saving), and she was a soft continuation of the neo-liberal policies (free-trade, tough on crime, and no social safety net) that began in the late 70s and when productivity in America began to drop off (http://www.gallup.com/reports/198776/no-recovery-analysis-long-term-productivity-decline.aspx?g_source=Report&g_medium=sidetop&g_campaign=tiles). A slightly progressive status quo offered a mixed bag of good and bad things, however, I'd say it is reasonable that people would be bummed on her and what she represented.

Trump on the other hand was a terrifyingly terrible candidate. Trump represented someone who hated unions (his Vegas casino employees voted to unionize and he ignored the vote see http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hotel-workers-say-boss-isnt-fit-to-be-president-2016-11). His multiple bankruptcies left everyone getting the short of the end stick except him (investors, contractors, and workers got fucked see http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election-2016-486091.html). He had a history of using his financial power (i.e. lawyers) to cheat his workers and contractors out of the money he owed them (see http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-business-plan-left-a-trail-of-unpaid-bills-1465504454). Trump University was a scam that bilked normal people out of money and when he recently settled for 25 million, it might just be another tax write off for him(http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2016/11/18/trump-gets-25-million-tax-write-off-for-trump-university-settlement/#38b770b45c6a). His campaign to get his Scottish golf course was built on the villianization of the local working class residents, it included a development plan that threatened the local environment, and his promises to create "thousands of jobs" never materialized (see ). This wasn't unique as his golf course in the Bronx never materialized the jobs that he promised either. Even though he does a great job of getting others to foot the bill (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2016/08/25/taxpayers-built-this-new-york-golf-course-trump-reaps-the-rewards/?utm_term=.9ef8c18fa398). It was just another luxury space for the ultra wealthy that the average person could never even hope of using. He called global warming a hoax. He regularly flip-flopped on various issues, and when confronted with concrete evidence he refused to concede (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/17/trump-camp-denies-muslim-ban-registry). Moreover, his connection to Bannon (of Goldman Sachs and farrightclickbait.com) is unnerving when coupled with Trump's white supremacists supporters and Trump's statements that have overt racist, sexist, etc. messages (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/305912-kkk-american-nazi-party-praise-trumps-hiring-of-bannon). Not to mention his ideas that more nations should have nukes (see https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/04/06/should-more-countries-have-nuclear-weapons-donald-trump-thinks-so/?utm_term=.70e89b55709d) and support of authoritarian and ultra violent leaders like Duterte (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/15/philippines-senators-duterte-impeached-killing-confession). Moreover, his lack of transparency (taxes) and obvious conflicts of interest are unnerving (hotel near White House, loans for foreign banks, property developments in foreign countries see http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interests/508382/) do not offer confidence. The fact that he rarely donated to his own foundation and spent Trump Foundation money on pictures of himself and to settle lawsuits against him (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-spent-more-than-250k-from-foundation-to-settle-lawsuits/), doesn't bode well for his character. Finally, the idea that a man who was born a millionaire and imports his products from China, directly benefits from globalization, and the gentrification of society is going to save America is difficult to believe. It seems unlikely he really identifies with people who have bills and real worries. Not to mention, his bullshit attack on McCain, which was disgusting. His strange mix of anti-free-market (regulation of global trade and his intervention in the free market) and his pro-free-market (no minimum wage, no formal regulation internally, no environmental regulation, no regulation of wall street) is also worrisome. His leadership and reliance on "loyalty" reminds me of the "great" political machines of the past. Tammny Hall Part 2: The Presidency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammany_Hall).

His positives were being an outsider (that appointed overt racists, wall-streeters, billionaires and big oil insiders to his cabinet) and that he was at least willing to admit some of the problems America is facing (even though he made quite a few problems up, i.e. day before birth abortions, immigrants and crime (immigrants engage in less crime than native populations, it is the second generation immigrants--1st born generation americans--who are more likely to commit crime, and illegal immigration has drastically reduce post-recession) (see the conservative CATO institute report https://www.cato.org/blog/immigration-crime-what-research-says). Also, his pro-torture agenda may feel good as a form of revenge to Americans who fear/hate terrorists (as well as the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world), but probably won't do any good to protect anyone from anything. Trump's biggest positive (if we can call it that) was that he represented a return of the sovereign (see Foucault's Discipline and Punish http://www.sparknotes.com/philosophy/disciplinepunish/). He portrays himself as a "powerful" leader who is always visible who expects awe and admiration from his followers, opposed to the less visible "governmentality" power, which indirectly and inconspicuously directs the behavior of citizens.

America had three options. Bernie Sanders's New Deal, Clinton's soft neo-liberalism, and Trump's authoritarian cult-of-personality nationalistic neo-liberalism. Sadly, America picked the absolute worst option. Trump's closest political peer is a cross between Rob Ford, William Tweed, and Berlusconi (if not Mussolini). Both Clinton and Trump were garbage. However, Trump is significantly scarier than the other.

Finally, the notion that people voted for Bernie "cause they wanted free shit" is nothing short of absurd and insulting. I donated to Bernie because I, as someone who loves his union and his union job, I try my best to support other workers (and those hoping to find decent work). For the past 40 years the majority of economic gains have gone to those at the top and the majority of economic gains post-recession went to the richest Americans. The notion that if we just lowered taxes a bit more and they just had a bit more money, they'd allow some to trickle down to the rest of us doesn't seem to be working out so well. Instead, it seems taxation will be a good way to reduce inequality.

Furthermore, I viewed the best way the American gov could get the American economy working for those who actually labor (whether in service, manufacturing, education, health, construction, or whatever) was for significant government investment in the country and the people of the country. We see government investment (Keynesian economics) playing an important role in Haussmann's Renovation of Paris (1853 under Napoleon), Robert Moses redevelopment of NYC (1930ish with La Gaurdia and under Gov. Roosevelt), Pres. Roosevelt's New Deal (1933ish), and government investment in the post-WWII prosperity (G.I. Bill being huge a benefit to many white Americans). However, Trump's idea of doing this while lowering taxes will only result in insane levels of debt.

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major kudos for that post, sir. great read and fine thinking.
i hope a lot of u slappers read completely through the text.
some really good analysis right there. points are well made
thanks for taking the time lurper to try to educate on here.

[Iceman]

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Wait... has that girl in Pablo's sig always had panties on?  

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You are talking about the important stuff. Apparently...

pablo, a question of the utmost importance: what is the source vid of this gif? it's for science.

[tobey]

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Wait... has that girl in Pablo's sig always had panties on?  

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You are talking about the important stuff. Apparently...

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pablo, a question of the utmost importance: what is the source vid of this gif? it's for science.

Its that Robin Thicke song with Pharrell

[somethingmustbreaknow]

blurred lines.
it sucks. the
girls are nice

[Endless Toedrag]

Duane Peters posts tons of batshit crazy trump stuff on his Instagram, in case that wasn't mentioned already.  Sorry I'm late to the party.

[h00man]

Hope none of you guys are like this guy

http://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-geers/2017/01/this-man-celebrating-the-end-of-obamacare-on-fb-didnt-realize-he-was-actually-on-obamacare/

[Iceman]

that music video was amazing on mute. thanks guys.

[Still Tippin]

So far I got 6 names: Duane Peters, Josh Harmony, Paul Hart, Brian Lotti, Jim Greco, Pat Duffy, none of which seem confirmed/fully serious...

If anyone has any others let me know.

Em Rata is a beaut btw

[JB]

So far I got 6 names: Duane Peters, Josh Harmony, Paul Hart, Brian Lotti, Jim Greco, Pat Duffy, none of which seem confirmed/fully serious...

If anyone has any others let me know.

Em Rata is a beaut btw

Koston

i have no evidence, but lets just say he did.

[datura]

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So far I got 6 names: Duane Peters, Josh Harmony, Paul Hart, Brian Lotti, Jim Greco, Pat Duffy, none of which seem confirmed/fully serious...

If anyone has any others let me know.

Em Rata is a beaut btw

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Koston

i have no evidence, but lets just say he did.

He does seem like that special kind of once normal/now rich person stupid that would totally vote for Trump because "hey, it's not any of this shit matters right?"

[Willie]

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So far I got 6 names: Duane Peters, Josh Harmony, Paul Hart, Brian Lotti, Jim Greco, Pat Duffy, none of which seem confirmed/fully serious...

If anyone has any others let me know.

Em Rata is a beaut btw

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Koston

i have no evidence, but lets just say he did.

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He does seem like that special kind of once normal/now rich person stupid that would totally vote for Trump because "hey, it's not any of this shit matters right?"

Only bummed about Duffy.

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

Jim Greco

Imagine talking to Greco about politics

[mtvic]

Most the trump "pros" haven't been pro for decades!  Like trump they are hoping the past will repeat itself and they will become relevant again.

[Narcissus]

Backing Lurper's original point: Most skaters are dumb as fuck. Drop out of high school to smoke weed continuously, engage in highly dangerous activity with no health insurance. God bless 'em.

[Kolostrum]

In two pages this thread went from stage IV terminal ass cancer to serious classic slap contender....

Never seen anything like it.

[Jerkstore]

In two pages this thread went from stage IV terminal ass cancer to serious classic slap contender....

Never seen anything like it.

I read that as Static IV terminal ass cancer

[h00man]

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In two pages this thread went from stage IV terminal ass cancer to serious classic slap contender....

Never seen anything like it.

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I read that as Static IV terminal ass cancer

Same. Somethings wrong with us.

[childhood]

On the subject of Kalis blaming the previous Democratic Mayor of Philadelphia, for the demolition of Love Park, the current Democratic Mayor seems pretty cool, in general really, but specifically about what people do in parks.

"Along with my liberal view of park use, please don't litter, or graffiti the walls or smoke weed so obviously that you scare olds my age"

This is the text of a tweet of his from yesterday, not asking kids to stop smoking pot in public parks, but just to be more low-key about it.
Also, the park in question is Rittenhouse, which has got to be in the top three most wealthy areas of the city.

[smokecrack]

 

[h00man]

 

Damn what a babe

[midevilco]

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Damn what a babe

Except for that nasty outtie belly button.

[Still Tippin]

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Damn what a babe

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Except for that nasty outtie belly button.

are you fuckin serious lmao, that's a deal breaker?? or even worth noting??

[midevilco]

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Damn what a babe

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Except for that nasty outtie belly button.

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are you fuckin serious lmao, that's a deal breaker?? or even worth noting??

Hard to ignore when it is staring at me.

[tortfeasor]

 

i'm more a wholesome girl next-door man myself.

[Tracer]

Trump's inauguration is tomorrow it should be a tremendous event. Many key bands are playing

Canadians being turned down at the border for no reason

Protesters already everywhere they should stop wasting their time

[tobey]

Trump's inauguration is tomorrow it should be a tremendous event. Many key bands are playing

Canadians being turned down at the border for no reason

Protesters already everywhere they should stop wasting their time

I just jerked off and i forgot to get a paper towel for the cum so i jizzed in a wawa half gallon ice tea jug. Little did i know i brought a paper towel down earlier and just completely forgot about it