I have to try some Aves. All the vans I’ve skated are Vulc and hurt my feet. I’m STILL breaking in a two year old pair of Authentics. No padding anywhere, just thick canvas and a rubber toe cap that’s about as comfortable as a steel toe. It’s like wearing boxes on my feet. Boxes that hate me.
I think I'm in the minority, but I did not enjoy skating the Aves. I don't have particularly wide feet but for some reason the toe box felt restricting and super stiff. I got the original white ones and I like the look of them so I kept them a chillers, but I still don't find them terribly comfortable.
As Manysnakes above said, perhaps it is a foot strength thing as well. I have weak arches and sketchy ankles so maybe my feet just couldn't hang. I didn't feel secure in them while popping and every trick felt like a hail mary. My arches would get sore during the session as well.
I feel more comfortable in a thinner vulc shoe.