They're in.
The verdict: They're pretty great, especially for being a Vans shoes.
Very sturdy, pretty good suede, good padding. Ultracush insole ...
And a VERY good shape;
I've paid more for less ... so I'm happy.
Now I hope they'll drop the all white and tan/olive joints as well.
(Lee Smith Was wearing them on his podcast last year so I'm pretty sure they'll come back)