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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2520 on: February 02, 2020, 12:19:41 PM »
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The 87a keyframes can slide. I’m not a power slide master but seems fine
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any signs of chipping or flatspots? i like the mini super juice but i cant slide to stop with em
nah only been a month or so but they seem fine

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« Reply #2521 on: February 02, 2020, 12:24:01 PM »
No advantage to wide wheels imo...a bit smoother on rough terrain (ymmv) but a 99a slim wheel can suffice.

So of course (but this is a unique situation) we went to a spot and wouldn't you know....? There is a gap in the ground THE EXACT FUCKING SIZE as my V3s..got stuck in it all the time, wedged; had to pull it out.

Now granted, my buddy also got stuck in it with wide wheels (conical fulls) but significantly less often, easily 50% less and was able to roll out sketch.

Point for wide wheels given ;)

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« Reply #2522 on: February 02, 2020, 02:59:21 PM »
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The 87a keyframes can slide. I’m not a power slide master but seems fine
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any signs of chipping or flatspots? i like the mini super juice but i cant slide to stop with em

I have the keyframes and cant slide for shit on them, I guess like tiny reverts etc but actually coming to a stop or significantly slowing down when bombing hills is not possible.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2523 on: February 02, 2020, 03:03:30 PM »
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The 87a keyframes can slide. I’m not a power slide master but seems fine
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any signs of chipping or flatspots? i like the mini super juice but i cant slide to stop with em
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I have the keyframes and cant slide for shit on them, I guess like tiny reverts etc but actually coming to a stop or significantly slowing down when bombing hills is not possible.
seems like i just cant expect it from soft wheels
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2524 on: February 02, 2020, 03:19:47 PM »
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The 87a keyframes can slide. I’m not a power slide master but seems fine
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any signs of chipping or flatspots? i like the mini super juice but i cant slide to stop with em
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I have the keyframes and cant slide for shit on them, I guess like tiny reverts etc but actually coming to a stop or significantly slowing down when bombing hills is not possible.
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seems like i just cant expect it from soft wheels

Powell Peralta Bomber 3s slide. 85a 60mm. I was able to bomb hills and hold reasonably long powerslides to slow myself down, sometimes was even able to tail/noseslide a ledge as long as the side wasn't completely dry. They are a bit too big and clunky to have as a primary non cruiser wheel tho imo.

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« Reply #2525 on: February 02, 2020, 10:51:37 PM »
anyone who has the oj mini or super juice get them to slide?

oj super juice do slide, but you have to go through that gloss layer and break them in. After that they still have plenty of grip\almost too much when going slow, but sliding is doable.Slide gloves recommended.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2526 on: February 03, 2020, 08:34:46 AM »
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anyone who has the oj mini or super juice get them to slide?
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oj super juice do slide, but you have to go through that gloss layer and break them in. After that they still have plenty of grip\almost too much when going slow, but sliding is doable.Slide gloves recommended.


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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2527 on: February 03, 2020, 09:29:27 AM »
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anyone who has the oj mini or super juice get them to slide?
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oj super juice do slide, but you have to go through that gloss layer and break them in. After that they still have plenty of grip\almost too much when going slow, but sliding is doable. Slide gloves recommended.
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that exactly what i pictured. of course they can slide but in those conditions its a troll answer.

if i need to be leaning to the point where im touching the ground and need slide gloves, i might as well get a fucking helmet and longboard too
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2528 on: February 03, 2020, 10:18:57 AM »
anyone who has the oj mini or super juice get them to slide?

Have you looked at the Powell G-Slides? 56mm and 85a.  They use their "SSF" formula, which is the "Soft Slide Formula".   Not a ton of reviews on them, but the longboard guys seemed to think they were super slidey and there was a learning curve because of that.

A review on Tactics:

"Very happy with these. They slid great for a cruiser wheal. Not as much as a 103a bones, but maybe as much as a 97a slimball"

Although someone else said:
"These are great semi soft cruiser wheels and they do, as advertised, slide but only for a couple of weeks before they get grippy and unslideable like normal cruiser wheels. "

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2529 on: February 03, 2020, 10:26:32 AM »
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anyone who has the oj mini or super juice get them to slide?
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Have you looked at the Powell G-Slides? 56mm and 85a.  They use their "SSF" formula, which is the "Soft Slide Formula".   Not a ton of reviews on them, but the longboard guys seemed to think they were super slidey and there was a learning curve because of that.

A review on Tactics:

"Very happy with these. They slid great for a cruiser wheal. Not as much as a 103a bones, but maybe as much as a 97a slimball"

Although someone else said:
"These are great semi soft cruiser wheels and they do, as advertised, slide but only for a couple of weeks before they get grippy and unslideable like normal cruiser wheels. "

I’ve had two sets of gslides (55 and 59mm) and they are pretty interesting because they do slide decent enough for street skating for the first week or two, but I found that they stick like most softer wheels after that. I’m not sure why that is though

They are solid cruiser wheels otherwise though
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2530 on: February 03, 2020, 10:46:56 AM »
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anyone who has the oj mini or super juice get them to slide?
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Have you looked at the Powell G-Slides? 56mm and 85a.  They use their "SSF" formula, which is the "Soft Slide Formula".   Not a ton of reviews on them, but the longboard guys seemed to think they were super slidey and there was a learning curve because of that.

A review on Tactics:

"Very happy with these. They slid great for a cruiser wheal. Not as much as a 103a bones, but maybe as much as a 97a slimball"

Although someone else said:
"These are great semi soft cruiser wheels and they do, as advertised, slide but only for a couple of weeks before they get grippy and unslideable like normal cruiser wheels. "
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I’ve had two sets of gslides (55 and 59mm) and they are pretty interesting because they do slide decent enough for street skating for the first week or two, but I found that they stick like most softer wheels after that. I’m not sure why that is though

They are solid cruiser wheels otherwise though

I've had gslides and powell bomber 3s 60mm 85a, the latter definitely slide better for street purposes even though gslides were marketed as a cruiser wheel that slides. Wish they would make it in the shape of a keyframe though.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2531 on: February 03, 2020, 10:50:25 AM »
I've had gslides and powell bomber 3s 60mm 85a, the latter definitely slide better for street purposes even though gslides were marketed as a cruiser wheel that slides. Wish they would make it in the shape of a keyframe though.

They do have a new replacement for the Ditch Tech Formula (95a) coming out "this spring" - so probably summer - that sounds pretty good.  Keep it on the radar.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2532 on: February 03, 2020, 10:54:34 AM »
Are the "G Slides" and the "SS" Soft Slides the same?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2533 on: February 03, 2020, 05:52:25 PM »
while I love wide wheels like conicals for most scenarios, I think there is just something great about a classic cut shape in a 56-54mm brand new. when it gets worn down to a 53-51mm it gets so damn nice and buttery for my style of skating. Getting a nice sketchy but controlled slide on some spits bending a corner approaching a box or set just speaks to me. It’s like my wheels are hyping me up to go buck.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2534 on: February 04, 2020, 12:43:45 AM »
A bit of advice...

I need a wheel for super crusty ground.

The ground at the local public park (not a skatepark) has ground that is basically gravel and another section has these big crusty redbrick banks.

I tried to skate them both on formula 4s; 56mm 99a conical fulls were best but I still need a little extra help pushing through the crust. Also, the spits are a little slippery I think mostly because the ground is so uneven that only 75-80% of the wheel surface is actually in contact with the ground at any given moment.

Keyframes?

I'd like to be able to skate other spots the same day so I don't want to go full-on cruiser wheels.

I'll still keep f4s on most of my boards because I'm not going to only skate those crusty spots all the time.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2535 on: February 04, 2020, 12:47:07 AM »
A bit of advice...

I need a wheel for super crusty ground.

The ground at the local public park (not a skatepark) has ground that is basically gravel and another section has these big crusty redbrick banks.

I tried to skate them both on formula 4s; 56mm 99a conical fulls were best but I still need a little extra help pushing through the crust. Also, the spits are a little slippery I think mostly because the ground is so uneven that only 75-80% of the wheel surface is actually in contact with the ground at any given moment.

Keyframes?

I'd like to be able to skate other spots the same day so I don't want to go full-on cruiser wheels.

I'll still keep f4s on most of my boards because I'm not going to only skate those crusty spots all the time.

Minilogo 90a. They come in street sizes, my brother's rocking a 53mm.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2536 on: February 04, 2020, 05:15:31 AM »
Id like to try out a set of those Ricta 78a Clouds, just not sure if theyre gonna be too soft? Anyone got some input on em?

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2537 on: February 04, 2020, 05:27:45 AM »
Id like to try out a set of those Ricta 78a Clouds, just not sure if theyre gonna be too soft? Anyone got some input on em?

Clouds are awesome. I’ve had five or six sets now and they have never chipped, are fast and soft enough to deal with moderately crusty streets easily. If the streets are suuuper messed up, Oj super juice minis are better, but the Clouds have better shape (the under 60mm ones anyway) for street skating if you are trying to do flip tricks and basic ledge stuff and also want to cruise, or skate crusty ground.

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« Reply #2538 on: February 04, 2020, 05:35:43 AM »
Prefer Keyframes over Clouds at smaller size (52mm). Partly don’t like the skinnier shape of the Clouds, partly they just didn’t feel that much distinct from each other.


If you’re gonna go real soft go big... more about momentum than accelerating speed at lowest durometers :)

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2539 on: February 04, 2020, 07:49:56 AM »
The F4 shortage arrived to my country.
Is impossible to find conicals :(
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« Reply #2540 on: February 04, 2020, 12:04:06 PM »
https://www.nhsfunfactory.com/53mm-vomit-mini-white-97a-slime-balls-skateboard-wheels
White mini Slime Balls finally made it to US shores
53mm, 97a
34.8mm width, 20.2mm riding surface
Tiny bit wider than conical full with slightly narrower tread

Anyone pay attention to the core shapes on NHS's wheels?
Does the + or x shape mean they're poured by a different company?
I'm curious about the OG formula. And the mini have a different shaped core than the larger wheels, Teamriders, etc.


For a wheel that slides I'd be looking in the 90's. I doubt those 90a minilogo's slide super well but might be worth a try.
Ppl seemed to think the sml 92a's slid ok but weren't that fast, iirc.. Makes sense cuz good rebound means more grip.
Minilogo has a new 95a formula. Initial feedback seemed good?
Ricta Clouds? New ones slide ok?
By my count there's 4 white 97a's in the mid-50mm range. And I'm guessing 3-4 different formulas (2 might be the same formula).
Powell/ML has 90a and 95a.
A couple 92a wheels and that's it?

Size will help too with uneven ground like bricks since you can run into taller stuff without getting hung up. And helps smooth out seams/gaps. Wider is smoother too. But tall and skinny is the faster shape for smooth ground.

Shape factors in also, more so the shape of the edge/lip. A square edge will grip more. A rounded or chamfered edge will more easily break into a slide.
The Super Juice shape should be grippier, especially if it wears down a lil and the edge gets squarer.
Keyframes should slide more easily cuz of the rounder edge and narrower riding surface. I'm assuming they're the same formula.

https://lushlongboards.com/workshops/longboard-wheel-guide/ edges and lips, urethane rebound

https://www.otherplanetskate.com/pages/technology-wheels tear strength vs grip is interesting
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« Reply #2541 on: February 04, 2020, 09:54:09 PM »
my smooth streets + skatepark wheel is spitfire F4 classic 99a, and has been for years.
been hunting for a wheel that can handle crustier spots, but also not be too soft for the park.
mini logo 90a are almost too bouncy/grippy, to me they're not too different in feel than spitfire chargers 80a
the keyframe 87a are nice on rough spots, but still a bit too soft for the park.
currently on a set of ricta clouds 92a, these are getting me close to a great multi use wheel....
but.... i just got a set of the new mini logo 95a in the 52mm 'a cut' shape. and they are WHITE.
will report back after putting them thru some various scenarios.
fyi.... all wheels i ride, regardless of duro, are 52mm to 54mm.

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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2542 on: February 05, 2020, 12:24:00 AM »
my smooth streets + skatepark wheel is spitfire F4 classic 99a, and has been for years.
been hunting for a wheel that can handle crustier spots, but also not be too soft for the park.
mini logo 90a are almost too bouncy/grippy, to me they're not too different in feel than spitfire chargers 80a
the keyframe 87a are nice on rough spots, but still a bit too soft for the park.
currently on a set of ricta clouds 92a, these are getting me close to a great multi use wheel....
but.... i just got a set of the new mini logo 95a in the 52mm 'a cut' shape. and they are WHITE.
will report back after putting them thru some various scenarios.
fyi.... all wheels i ride, regardless of duro, are 52mm to 54mm.
after F4s id say they look fake, all their natural colored wheels set something off in my head. be sure to add a pic after they get some wear
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Re: Wheels Thread
« Reply #2543 on: February 05, 2020, 09:58:00 AM »
my smooth streets + skatepark wheel is spitfire F4 classic 99a, and has been for years.
been hunting for a wheel that can handle crustier spots, but also not be too soft for the park.
mini logo 90a are almost too bouncy/grippy, to me they're not too different in feel than spitfire chargers 80a
the keyframe 87a are nice on rough spots, but still a bit too soft for the park.
currently on a set of ricta clouds 92a, these are getting me close to a great multi use wheel....
but.... i just got a set of the new mini logo 95a in the 52mm 'a cut' shape. and they are WHITE.
will report back after putting them thru some various scenarios.
fyi.... all wheels i ride, regardless of duro, are 52mm to 54mm.

95a.. that sounds tempting. please check back in later and tell us how they perform with noseslides and stuff
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« Reply #2544 on: February 05, 2020, 07:01:15 PM »
I think ultimately you either need a hard 99/100a street/ park wheel or a legit cruiser 75/87a....

Anything in-between is kind of a no-mans land and kind of OK at somethings but never good at everything... unless you are wanting an 80s replica type set up.

I think it is best to just rotate between a proper cruiser or a legit hard wheel. Trying to find a one duro suits all will end in tears....

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« Reply #2545 on: February 05, 2020, 07:48:35 PM »
I think ultimately you either need a hard 99/100a street/ park wheel or a legit cruiser 75/87a....

Anything in-between is kind of a no-mans land and kind of OK at somethings but never good at everything... unless you are wanting an 80s replica type set up.

I think it is best to just rotate between a proper cruiser or a legit hard wheel. Trying to find a one duro suits all will end in tears....

Yeah, I came to the same conclusion after trying everything between 75-99a. Everything between 80-97 just couldn’t do any of the good things wheels can do as well as 75’s or 99’s. Now I usually just skate with either F4’s and carry some Ricta clouds in my bag to switch off to if I want to cruise longer distance (or hit crusty spots), or vice/versa if I’m cruising around and plan on stopping to skate some ledges or a spot where harder wheels would be useful

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« Reply #2546 on: February 05, 2020, 09:12:50 PM »
I think ultimately you either need a hard 99/100a street/ park wheel or a legit cruiser 75/87a....

Anything in-between is kind of a no-mans land and kind of OK at somethings but never good at everything... unless you are wanting an 80s replica type set up.

I think it is best to just rotate between a proper cruiser or a legit hard wheel. Trying to find a one duro suits all will end in tears....

100% agree.

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« Reply #2547 on: February 06, 2020, 04:54:08 AM »
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I think ultimately you either need a hard 99/100a street/ park wheel or a legit cruiser 75/87a....

Anything in-between is kind of a no-mans land and kind of OK at somethings but never good at everything... unless you are wanting an 80s replica type set up.

I think it is best to just rotate between a proper cruiser or a legit hard wheel. Trying to find a one duro suits all will end in tears....
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Yeah, I came to the same conclusion after trying everything between 75-99a. Everything between 80-97 just couldn’t do any of the good things wheels can do as well as 75’s or 99’s. Now I usually just skate with either F4’s and carry some Ricta clouds in my bag to switch off to if I want to cruise longer distance (or hit crusty spots), or vice/versa if I’m cruising around and plan on stopping to skate some ledges or a spot where harder wheels would be useful
Funny. I'm probably thinking of the 80's when I think sliding on softer wheels. Since then wheel rebound and wear resistance has improved. Iirc both those things make a formula grippier. But I think a 92-97a could still slide ok.
I drive to spots so no bag.. If it's super crusty I'm onto the next spot, this is socal.. I'm also not gonna deal with losing a dozen speedrings. So I'm thinking +9" fattie with 97a's. No boingo boingo bouncy wheels for me.

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« Reply #2548 on: February 06, 2020, 11:42:06 AM »
what is with these plastic things you put over your wheels for cruising? I think I've seen them on Kenny Anderson's insta. Those things would be nice.
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« Reply #2549 on: February 06, 2020, 01:27:42 PM »
what is with these plastic things you put over your wheels for cruising? I think I've seen them on Kenny Anderson's insta. Those things would be nice.

They're just a prototype I believe for Kenny and Co's product. I'm pretty interested in them as well. I don't think they're for sale yet though, but they were talking about them on the Nine Club as well.


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