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Title: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: JamesNtheGntPch on August 14, 2012, 07:55:46 PM
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/386820_455745081126169_1433040386_n.jpg)
Did G.G. Allen come back from the dead to take over their marketing operations?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Fastfreddy on August 14, 2012, 08:07:31 PM
shut up, hippie
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Jejenhausen on August 14, 2012, 08:19:09 PM
thats actually pretty gnarly.

even for them.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: LoserMachine on August 14, 2012, 08:23:31 PM
put that on a shirt!
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: the snake on August 14, 2012, 08:24:03 PM
don't like it, too much pain in this picture
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: jay on August 14, 2012, 08:29:01 PM
I'm sorry but that is way too funny...
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: UserFame on August 14, 2012, 08:31:49 PM
not feeling it, but hey, its a free world...
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Gnarwhal on August 14, 2012, 08:32:13 PM
that ad is at least a year old
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: asakusa75 on August 14, 2012, 08:33:47 PM
I saw a documentary where they talked about this photo. Apparently the little naked kids back was messed up from napalm, skin dripping off like melting cheese. Pretty harsh using this if you ask me.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: HairyCunt on August 14, 2012, 08:38:01 PM
Great ad! Love it!
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: HairyCunt on August 14, 2012, 08:45:20 PM
Old or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad?  Where was it run web or magazine?

Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)

I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them.  First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this?  Fuck Anti-hero.  Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.

The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing.  I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke!  Grow some fucking balls.

Have a sense of humour!

People are allowed to have a dark sense of humour. Have you never heard of post modernism, situationism, dada. etc?

You probably found the Gooks of Hazzard shirt offensive too. Bitch!
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: DJSoftspot on August 14, 2012, 09:02:13 PM
It was an ad in thrasher. I cut it out to save.

Just because you can call it art, post modernism, dada, whatever it doesn't make it less offensive to some.

i thought this and the baker graphic were pretty funny and definitely offensive. maybe i'm fucked.

I've seen worst album art though
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Bertie on August 14, 2012, 09:24:21 PM
this is pretty pathetic for a grown man's work. the idea that anyone involved with anti-hero would have heard of situationism or dadaists is hilarious.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: DJSoftspot on August 14, 2012, 09:30:09 PM
this is pretty pathetic for a grown man's work. the idea that anyone involved with anti-hero would have heard of situationism or dadaists is hilarious.

I'm sure Stranger has heard of at least one, but i doubt that's what he was going for. probably just trying to fuck with people
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Joust Ostrich on August 14, 2012, 09:32:13 PM
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Old or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? �Where was it run web or magazine?

Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? �http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)

I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. �First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? �Fuck Anti-hero. �Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.

The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. �I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! �Grow some fucking balls.
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Have a sense of humour!

People are allowed to have a dark sense of humour. Have you never heard of post modernism, situationism, dada. etc?

You probably found the Gooks of Hazzard shirt offensive too. Bitch!
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You have proven again and again that you are incapable of higher level thought and completely uneducated in social matters.  I'm pretty sure everyone just ignores you at this point, but I will offer a reply in the hopes of influencing someone who is lurking and lacks the ability to place you on their ignore list.  By all means please keep regurgitating your cliched back-woods conservative thoughts though.  You only make anyone whose opinion differs from yours appear that much more intelligent.  Believe me, I am not surprised that someone like you found this ad amusing in the slightest.

I completely agree with you that people are allowed to have a dark sense of humour, but in the same vain I am completely allowed to call them out on this bullshit.  Someone who formerly supported Anti-hero and Deluxe may see this thread and also be fed up with this bullshit.  Deluxe knows this and thats why they always log on the boards to play damage control.  We are lucky that consumers in the skateboard industry have a pretty big voice.  I just wish more skaters would stop being mindless drones and have the balls to stand up when a skater or brand they worship does some fucking bullshit.  You're way more of a bitch for compromising your ideals because you don't want go against what is "cool."  We don't need racism in skateboarding and we certainly don't need to be mocking innocent adolescent war victims.  I don't see how you can willfully give money to a skateboard powerhouse owned by a former cop anyway.  Deluxe does way too much sketchy shit.

So what exactly is Hentihero?  A parody, an homage?  A rip off?  because this sweatshirt is pretty fucking funny.
(http://www.natal.jp/natal_blog/hentihero.jpg)
(http://i2.ytimg.com/i/EDXHd5sTegGvdmUw60Ht4g/1.jpg?v=b0ea35)

Also, is this you?
http://www.youtube.com/user/hentihero (http://www.youtube.com/user/hentihero)
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Thrillho on August 14, 2012, 09:36:04 PM
Lame tasteless ad.  I can't say that kind of humor isn't effective when done properly though.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/Mondo4352/Graves3.jpg)
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: seamoose on August 14, 2012, 10:05:03 PM
the ad has pretty much done its job and got us talking about it, may work for some and maybe not for others but as far as marketing. Its working
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: oldgoodburger on August 14, 2012, 10:07:20 PM
i see no issue with this ad. anti-hero continue what you are doing

edit: see it's okay now cause we're getting rid of it http://motherboard.vice.com/2012/8/8/everybody-slow-clap-america-scrubbing-vietnam-of-agent-orange (http://motherboard.vice.com/2012/8/8/everybody-slow-clap-america-scrubbing-vietnam-of-agent-orange)
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: PBNR on August 14, 2012, 10:11:19 PM
The most offensive thing about this is that you spelled GG Allin's name A-L-L-E-N.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: GatorsGhost on August 14, 2012, 10:20:10 PM
That's about as offensive as a punk or metal show flyer you find on your wind-shield wipers anytime you park in the university district.  In fact, that's pretty much what it is.  I can imagine this one being for Napalm Death or Anal Cunt or something.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: floop on August 14, 2012, 10:25:02 PM
Old or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad?  Where was it run web or magazine?

Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)

I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them.  First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this?  Fuck Anti-hero.  Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.

The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing.  I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke!  Grow some fucking balls.

like all art, you don't have to like it.   but speaking of balls it does take balls to put an ad like that out.  i don't care for it either, but i can appreciate that they're willing to push boundaries with their marketing, instead of safe, cutesy stuff
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Tardvark on August 14, 2012, 10:25:29 PM
i think that the idea of this ad was to draw attention to how fucked up war is. This is clearly an anti war ad and anyone getting worked up about it has missed the point
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: waltercronkite on August 14, 2012, 10:30:45 PM
i think that the idea of this ad was to draw attention to how fucked up war is. This is clearly an anti war ad and anyone getting worked up about it has missed the point

thats what i thought but what do i know im an idiot
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: HairyCunt on August 14, 2012, 10:38:30 PM
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Old or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? �Where was it run web or magazine?

Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? �http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)

I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. �First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? �Fuck Anti-hero. �Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.

The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. �I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! �Grow some fucking balls.
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Have a sense of humour!

People are allowed to have a dark sense of humour. Have you never heard of post modernism, situationism, dada. etc?

You probably found the Gooks of Hazzard shirt offensive too. Bitch!
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You have proven again and again that you are incapable of higher level thought and completely uneducated in social matters. �I'm pretty sure everyone just ignores you at this point, but I will offer a reply in the hopes of influencing someone who is lurking and lacks the ability to place you on their ignore list. �By all means please keep regurgitating your cliched back-woods conservative thoughts though. �You only make anyone whose opinion differs from yours appear that much more intelligent. �Believe me, I am not surprised that someone like you found this ad amusing in the slightest.

I completely agree with you that people are allowed to have a dark sense of humour, but in the same vain I am completely allowed to call them out on this bullshit. �Someone who formerly supported Anti-hero and Deluxe may see this thread and also be fed up with this bullshit. �Deluxe knows this and thats why they always log on the boards to play damage control. �We are lucky that consumers in the skateboard industry have a pretty big voice. �I just wish more skaters would stop being mindless drones and have the balls to stand up when a skater or brand they worship does some fucking bullshit.� You're way more of a bitch for compromising your ideals because you don't want go against what is "cool."� We don't need racism in skateboarding and we certainly don't need to be mocking innocent adolescent war victims.� I don't see how you can willfully give money to a skateboard powerhouse owned by a former cop anyway. �Deluxe does way too much sketchy shit.

You can only read something one way and are reduced to making irrational personal attacks and I am the one that is incapable of a higher thought level? LOL !

Skateboarding need less self-righteous squares with obvious personal issues with Deluxe, such as yourself, and more of this!
Let me recommend Reliance Skateboards to you, they seem to be right up your alley.


Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: ChronicBluntSlider on August 14, 2012, 10:41:15 PM
Is it funny because its human suffering, or funny because its human suffering on a skateboard? Not saying it shouldn't of been ran or anything, but somebody describe why its funny?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: 4LOM on August 14, 2012, 10:58:02 PM

The main kid seems to be living a remarkable life that has brought a lot of benefits to people’s lives.
The trauma depicted in the photo probably had a huge influence on her character and choices.
So, it’s reasonable to believe, that without such trauma, she would not have lead such a remarkable life, and all the lives she improved would not have been so improved.

If the worth of an event is judged by consequences, then it might be good that the event depicted in the photo occurred, if more good consequences followed from it occurring than would have followed from it not occurring.

So, it might be good that the event depicted in the photo occurred.

Is it objectionable for anti hero to parody events that might be good?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: ChronicBluntSlider on August 14, 2012, 11:00:47 PM

The main kid seems to be living a remarkable life that has brought a lot of benefits to people?s lives.
The trauma depicted in the photo probably had a huge influence on her character and choices.
So, it?s reasonable to believe, that without such trauma, she would not have lead such a remarkable life, and all the lives she improved would not have been so improved.

If the worth of an event is judged by consequences, then it might be good that the event depicted in the photo occurred, if more good consequences followed from it occurring than would have followed from it not occurring.

So, it might be good that the event depicted in the photo occurred.

Is it objectionable for anti hero to parody events that might be good?


And slavery was just one big favor . . . moron.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: era on August 14, 2012, 11:16:29 PM
I think I saw a short about the little girl in the photo and she talked about how she was running with no clothes because napalm had burnt them off or something.  I don't think not backing this makes you behind the times on art and humor.  I think that makes you relatively normal.  It may have been an attempt to bring more light to the subject, but in my eyes it just looks like a spoof.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: jay on August 14, 2012, 11:16:51 PM
It's funny for the same reason this is funny:
(http://i50.tinypic.com/1pwmmp.jpg)

It's funny to take something terrible and make it look harmless, I guess.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: 4LOM on August 14, 2012, 11:19:14 PM
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The main kid seems to be living a remarkable life that has brought a lot of benefits to people?s lives.
The trauma depicted in the photo probably had a huge influence on her character and choices.
So, it?s reasonable to believe, that without such trauma, she would not have lead such a remarkable life, and all the lives she improved would not have been so improved.

If the worth of an event is judged by consequences, then it might be good that the event depicted in the photo occurred, if more good consequences followed from it occurring than would have followed from it not occurring.

So, it might be good that the event depicted in the photo occurred.

Is it objectionable for anti hero to parody events that might be good?

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And slavery was just one big favor . . . moron.


Without slavery, the past would be different enough that your ancestors would have fucked at different times or with different people, and so different eggs would have been fertilized and different children/generations born.

So, if you think it's good for you to exist than not to exist, you should be thankful that the past happened exactly as it did, otherwise you wouldn't exist.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Cadillac Ranch Dressing on August 14, 2012, 11:22:30 PM
You guys are debating over a year old Anti Hero ad.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: GatorsGhost on August 14, 2012, 11:25:58 PM
Is it funny because its human suffering, or funny because its human suffering on a skateboard? Not saying it shouldn't of been ran or anything, but somebody describe why its funny?
I don't understand why people think it's supposed to be funny in the first place.  It's Anti-Hero (the little guys) vs. the soldiers (the big, authoritarian guys).  It's the same style Anti-Hero (note the name) has always had.  They're the Travis Bickle of skateboarding in image.  I would honestly love to watch Salo with some of you guys.  We shouldn't be discussing whether or not it's offensive (it's supposed to be), we should be discussing whether or not it's effective (this thread proves it is).  Photoshopping dicks in Berra's mouth (don't stop) is fine, but subverting an iconic image for the umpteenth time is offensive?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Inanimate Object on August 14, 2012, 11:28:46 PM
You guys, this isn't "art"
It's not deliberate historical commentary, or even something that will generate meaningful conversation unintentionally. Wrong audience, wrong medium.  This is the Anti Hero art department seeing a "gnarly" image and slapping their logo on it, because "gnarly" is their thing.  Stop defending shitty things.  Free Max B, I guess.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Schismatic on August 14, 2012, 11:34:51 PM
Old or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? �Where was it run web or magazine?

Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? �http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)

I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. �First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? �Fuck Anti-hero. �Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.

The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. �I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! �Grow some fucking balls.

Uh, DLX made "Realief" decks and donated proceeds to the Tsunami relief. They support tons of causes.

This is not an "ad" per se, this is to get into people's heads and I don't think it's meant to make people laugh. Probably the opposite.

There is pain in the photo but did any of you reactionaries consider that this is actually anti-war political SATIRE? A young audience is exposed to this and might think, understandably, "that is horrible" and as a result a skateboard "ad" might open some eyes and foster the next Vonnegut or Abbie Hoffman.

Has anyone who's upset by this ever looked at a Crass inlay or Dead Kennedy's album cover? However, Jello Biafra is seen as an ultra liberal crusader but the same kind of shit somehow makes Julien Stranger someone who thinks maimed kids is funny? Just look at the history of the graphics and ads, and notice all the anti-war, anti govt corruption, etc., messages incorporated into them. Look at some of that and you might "get" this.

Think about shit like this a little more, sometimes the real meaning is below the surface and I honestly believe that's the case here, whether it's poor taste or not it doesn't seem malicious, it forces people to confront evil shit instead of being ignorant to how fucked the world was, is, and will continue to be as long people are complacent and would prefer to not have to look at unpleasant images.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: HairyCunt on August 14, 2012, 11:38:36 PM
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Old or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? �Where was it run web or magazine?

Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? �http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)

I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. �First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? �Fuck Anti-hero. �Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.

The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. �I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! �Grow some fucking balls.
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Uh, DLX made "Realief" decks and donated proceeds to the Tsunami relief. They support tons of causes.

This is not an "ad" per se, this is to get into people's heads and I don't think it's meant to make people laugh. Probably the opposite.

There is pain in the photo but did any of you reactionaries consider that this is actually anti-war political SATIRE? A young audience is exposed to this and might think, understandably, "that is horrible" and as a result a skateboard "ad" might open some eyes and foster the next Vonnegut or Abbie Hoffman.

Has anyone who's upset by this ever looked at a Crass inlay or Dead Kennedy's album cover? However, Jello Biafra is seen as an ultra liberal crusader but the same kind of shit somehow makes Julien Stranger someone who thinks maimed kids is funny? Just look at the history of the graphics and ads, and notice all the anti-war, anti govt corruption, etc., messages incorporated into them. Look at some of that and you might "get" this.

Think about shit like this a little more, sometimes the real meaning is below the surface and I honestly believe that's the case here, whether it's poor taste or not it doesn't seem malicious, it forces people to confront evil shit instead of being ignorant to how fucked the world was, is, and will continue to be as long people are complacent and would prefer to not have to look at unpleasant images.



Hopefully not though!
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Inanimate Object on August 14, 2012, 11:41:51 PM
Anyone who's ever looked at a Crass or Dead Kennedy's inlay has also listened to those bands and so there's no ambiguity about the message.
Also, maybe some kid will see this horrible image and become the next Vonnegut?
Actually, I remember reading an interview with Vonnegut and he said he really appreciated the existence of offensive Anti hero ads because otherwise he would never have learned about the horrors of war. I think Slaughterhouse Five was actually based on an old World Industries ad but maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: asakusa75 on August 14, 2012, 11:44:46 PM
Anyone who's ever looked at a Crass or Dead Kennedy's inlay has also listened to those bands and so there's no ambiguity about the message.
Also, maybe some kid will see this horrible image and become the next Vonnegut?
Actually, I remember reading an interview with Vonnegut and he said he really appreciated the existence of offensive Anti hero ads because otherwise he would never have learned about the horrors of war. I think Slaughterhouse Five was actually based on an old World Industries ad but maybe I'm wrong.

I am going to assume this is some kind of joke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five)
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: GatorsGhost on August 14, 2012, 11:58:37 PM
You guys, this isn't "art" (Your opinion)
It's not deliberate historical commentary (your opinion), or even something that will generate meaningful conversation unintentionally(it has). Wrong audience (exact audience), wrong medium (exact medium).  This is the Anti Hero art department seeing a "gnarly" image (speculation) and slapping their logo on it (speculation), because "gnarly" is their thing (It is.  So what?  Don't buy it).  Stop defending shitty things (opinion).  
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: SUPERNAUT on August 15, 2012, 12:01:26 AM
Old or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad?  Where was it run web or magazine?

Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)

I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them.  First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this?  Fuck Anti-hero.  Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.

The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing.  I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke!  Grow some fucking balls.
Racism and war are funny no matter who makes the joke
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: HairyCunt on August 15, 2012, 12:05:35 AM
Who's excited for the para olympics?  They're always a good laugh.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: SUPERNAUT on August 15, 2012, 12:08:45 AM
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Anyone who's ever looked at a Crass or Dead Kennedy's inlay has also listened to those bands and so there's no ambiguity about the message.
Also, maybe some kid will see this horrible image and become the next Vonnegut?
Actually, I remember reading an interview with Vonnegut and he said he really appreciated the existence of offensive Anti hero ads because otherwise he would never have learned about the horrors of war. I think Slaughterhouse Five was actually based on an old World Industries ad but maybe I'm wrong.
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I am going to assume this is some kind of joke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five)
Having an extra chromosome must be hard for you
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Inanimate Object on August 15, 2012, 12:18:03 AM
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Is it funny because its human suffering, or funny because its human suffering on a skateboard? Not saying it shouldn't of been ran or anything, but somebody describe why its funny?
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I don't understand why people think it's supposed to be funny in the first place.  It's Anti-Hero (the little guys) vs. the soldiers (the big, authoritarian guys).  It's the same style Anti-Hero (note the name) has always had.  They're the Travis Bickle of skateboarding in image.  I would honestly love to watch Salo with some of you guys.  We shouldn't be discussing whether or not it's offensive (it's supposed to be), we should be discussing whether or not it's effective (this thread proves it is).  Photoshopping dicks in Berra's mouth (don't stop) is fine, but subverting an iconic image for the umpteenth time is offensive?

But what's it do effectively, besides being offensive? That's one of the cop-out critical defenses of offensive art - that if it offends you, it's succeeded.  I think a better measure would be the quality of discussion that comes out of it. So, what's the productive discourse we're supposed to be getting out of this - whether a skate company can co-opt images of war crimes?  
And if the point of this image was to depict a "big guys versus the little guys" anti-authoritarian message, do you think this was the best image they could have picked?
Personally, if that was the message I was attempting to convey, I wouldn't have picked one with the little guys getting torched with napalm. But as you pointed out, that's just my opinion man.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: asakusa75 on August 15, 2012, 12:19:01 AM
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Anyone who's ever looked at a Crass or Dead Kennedy's inlay has also listened to those bands and so there's no ambiguity about the message.
Also, maybe some kid will see this horrible image and become the next Vonnegut?
Actually, I remember reading an interview with Vonnegut and he said he really appreciated the existence of offensive Anti hero ads because otherwise he would never have learned about the horrors of war. I think Slaughterhouse Five was actually based on an old World Industries ad but maybe I'm wrong.
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I am going to assume this is some kind of joke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five)
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Having an extra chromosome must be hard for you

Yes, it is. I am willing to admit I got done on this one. Sux to be me.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Joust Ostrich on August 15, 2012, 01:21:20 AM
Is it funny because its human suffering, or funny because its human suffering on a skateboard? Not saying it shouldn't of been ran or anything, but somebody describe why its funny?

Skateboarding is the epitome of human suffering, by choice.  Not funny, but true.  "Skateboarding ruined my life", damn right it did, but I wouldn't want to give up all that it has given me. 

Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Schismatic on August 15, 2012, 01:22:42 AM
Anyone who's ever looked at a Crass or Dead Kennedy's inlay has also listened to those bands and so there's no ambiguity about the message.
Also, maybe some kid will see this horrible image and become the next Vonnegut?
Actually, I remember reading an interview with Vonnegut and he said he really appreciated the existence of offensive Anti hero ads because otherwise he would never have learned about the horrors of war. I think Slaughterhouse Five was actually based on an old World Industries ad but maybe I'm wrong.

Anyone who's seen Anti Hero ads and graphics over the years and actually paid attention to the theme should also have recognized the theme, which is actually very similar to the ideals expressed in DK lyrics to keep with that example, so there's no real ambiguity there either. Come on, businessmen with dollar signs on their heads, bar cod and QR codes (with middle fingers in them), cultural icons and authority figures with zombie faces, Charlie Brown Manson, foreclosure prints, atomic energy silos... Granted they've digressed in recent years but they used to have a very obvious theme of basically trashing American government and values of modern society but with low-brow humor in the mix. Still do to a lesser extent, its even in the company name for Christ's sake, just now more stupid humor in the mix.

I'm not saying it isn't in poor taste, I just see a different meaning and don't think its as sinister as some people are making it out to be.

I only mentioned Vonnegut because its a big name who high school kids should be familiar with for a few things: using disturbing imagery as anti war sentiment and conveying those beliefs without being completely obvious or overtly saying that that's what his writings are about. There's much more than slaughterhouse five by the way, that book pretty much sucks.

The rest of your response was person babble. Nice try though.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Pooch on August 15, 2012, 01:45:56 AM
'Like, seriously! - its like totally playing on like how the government and shit like todally
use propaganda to manipulate our emotions bro'
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: cringe. on August 15, 2012, 03:59:49 AM
You guys, this isn't "art"
It's not deliberate historical commentary, or even something that will generate meaningful conversation unintentionally. Wrong audience, wrong medium.  This is the Anti Hero art department seeing a "gnarly" image and slapping their logo on it, because "gnarly" is their thing.  Stop defending shitty things.  Free Max B, I guess.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: GershonSweaty on August 15, 2012, 05:11:13 AM
It's funny for the same reason this is funny:
(http://i50.tinypic.com/1pwmmp.jpg)

It's funny to take something terrible and make it look harmless, I guess.

its fucking appalling. Understandably Anti-Hero maybe were trying to highlight the severe and reprehensible methods of the U.S government BUT there is endless other ways to do it.
Also comparing the wrongful assassination of one man(guilty or otherwise) to the mass genocide of literally 100's of thousands of people is fucking regular.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Grubby Mits on August 15, 2012, 05:34:02 AM
i think that the idea of this ad was to draw attention to how fucked up war is. This is clearly an anti war ad and anyone getting worked up about it has missed the point

You are over estimating anti hero's art department, log off and go back to reading Banksy's 'Wall and Piece'...
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Fenzadill on August 15, 2012, 05:46:19 AM
Lame tasteless ad.  I can't say that kind of humor isn't effective when done properly though.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/Mondo4352/Graves3.jpg)

Yeah there's no clever joke there, and all I see when I look at that ad is a burned up, naked little girl and it bums me out.  Not the ad concept or the audacity of Anti Hero for making the joke, just the image itself.  Huge bummer.

That being said that Jack Ruby picture made me actually LOL.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Max Power on August 15, 2012, 07:58:58 AM
Yeah, I can see some feigned attempt to analogize "anti-hero" type skaters with those oppressed by the "authority."

But I think other dude is more right.  When you use a gnarly image like this you are knowingly reducing whatever your "message" to shock value. 

This isn't any more edgy, innovative, or provocative than marilyn manson or mr. brainwash.

DK had a robust substantive message.  They were involved in major free speech litigation.  They pushed the envelope so that people like Anti-hero could use offensive images to promote their "lifestyle" in order to sell skateboards and t-shirts. 

That said, I don't have a problem with the ad or anti-hero.  It is what it is.  Like Baker they are trying to make mommies mad.  Doesn't speak to me, but they have the right to do it. 
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: General Cornrow Wallace on August 15, 2012, 08:23:33 AM
cant believe so many people are crying over this. It's anti hero get the fuck over it
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Pike St on August 15, 2012, 08:38:40 AM
It's a thread on an artistic ad, this is what people do at art galleries, discuss the piece, so this is an online version of that...pretty normal thing to do actually. Don't need to get upset about people engaging. I think it's interesting to read.

don't like it, too much pain in this picture

I personally agree. I picture the child running and not knowing the skateboard is under her feet, and stepping on it and falling. Makes me cringe. I do see the DK connection. Maybe in a weird way you can say the skateboards are helping them escape. psssh....In all honesty I thought this thread was going to be about their current ad, where they are propping up the piece of wood, for the front rock, and in the corner of the ad is the hand plant circle. Which is a cool 2 page ad.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Sleazy on August 15, 2012, 08:50:14 AM
looking forward to the baker\dlx calbo series



but seriously, i wouldn't mind my kids seeing this when they were old enough to skate because they damn sure won't see this or any other iconic vietnam image in thier history books and i think it's important that my kids know about the horrors of war and of our imperalist past (well hopefully it will be past tense by then).


for those of you who offended, is this also offensive and if not then why not?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg/220px-RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg)

isn't this also explioting horrors of that war for marketing?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Cajungly on August 15, 2012, 08:51:50 AM
you guys are pussies that shit is handsome
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: ttching! on August 15, 2012, 09:25:45 AM
looking forward to the baker\dlx calbo series



but seriously, i wouldn't mind my kids seeing this when they were old enough to skate because they damn sure won't see this or any other iconic vietnam image in thier history books and i think it's important that my kids know about the horrors of war and of our imperalist past (well hopefully it will be past tense by then).


for those of you who offended, is this also offensive and if not then why not?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg/220px-RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg)

isn't this also explioting horrors of that war for marketing?

I think its a much different image considering that monk lit himself on fire to make a point, rather than had napalm dropped on his house by a plane. Rage Against the Machine was also more concerned about the message in their music than in making money off of it, and they are clearly championing the monk and his cause by using his image when you consider the the content of that album.

I like the ad. It is fucked up, but look around and you are going to see fucked up things everywhere, which is kind of the the point. Wake up and look around. Skating is a way to lighten up the darkness and transcend our fates in the rat race, but that part gets lost pretty easily in the consumerism of our current age of Street League, Nike training facilities, Energy Drink sponsors and Pros posting pictures of their meetings with celebrity jewelers on facebook for the kids to see.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: shone237 on August 15, 2012, 09:36:32 AM
it's immature shock value, don't overthink it. Skateboarding has as much to do with politics as it does energy drinks. It's all one big sellout, anti hero just tries harder than others to not look like a sellout. This ad being the result of trying to hard.

Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Mouth on August 15, 2012, 09:37:46 AM
That ad looks like something 12 year olds would come up with at a sleepover.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Pooch on August 15, 2012, 10:32:19 AM
Its a cheap trick...heres one I prepared earlier!
Not very funny is it - specially when its NOT your favourite company doing it...

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3926/dontshower.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/256/dontshower.jpg/)

Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Pooch on August 15, 2012, 10:44:05 AM
it's immature shock value, don't overthink it. Skateboarding has as much to do with politics as it does energy drinks. It's all one big sellout, anti hero just tries harder than others to not look like a sellout. This ad being the result of trying to hard.



Can I get an amen!
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Canuck on August 15, 2012, 10:49:26 AM
I don't really give a fuck about this ad and think people can do whatever the fuck they want, doesn't bother me.

HOWEVER, In an interesting side note I meet the young girl - now a 40 year old peace advocate -  from this photograph at work. Her name is Kim Phuc (funny last name I know) and she is an incredible person with a crazy life story. RESPECT.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: HairyCunt on August 15, 2012, 11:16:31 AM
looking forward to the baker\dlx calbo series



but seriously, i wouldn't mind my kids seeing this when they were old enough to skate because they damn sure won't see this or any other iconic vietnam image in thier history books and i think it's important that my kids know about the horrors of war and of our imperalist past (well hopefully it will be past tense by then).


for those of you who offended, is this also offensive and if not then why not?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg/220px-RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg)

isn't this also explioting horrors of that war for marketing?

You don't even know what imperialism means.

Secondly, anyone that thinks this is immature is right.  So is skateboarding.  I hate purveyors of good taste.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Joust Ostrich on August 15, 2012, 11:19:45 AM
<--  surprised Gipper hasn't contributed 8 - 40 paragraphs on the subject .  Actually curious on his angle for once.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Sleazy on August 15, 2012, 11:31:19 AM
You don't even know what imperialism means.

for fucks sake, how stupid are the people you are used to regergitating fox talking points too? you been trolling middle schools?


Secondly, anyone that thinks this is immature is right.?  So is skateboarding.?  I hate purveyors of good taste.

unfortnuately, i find PC equally annoying.

Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Tufty on August 15, 2012, 11:35:50 AM
looking forward to the baker\dlx calbo series



but seriously, i wouldn't mind my kids seeing this when they were old enough to skate because they damn sure won't see this or any other iconic vietnam image in thier history books and i think it's important that my kids know about the horrors of war and of our imperalist past (well hopefully it will be past tense by then).


for those of you who offended, is this also offensive and if not then why not?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg/220px-RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg)

isn't this also explioting horrors of that war for marketing?
Dont like making fun using a photo of someone clearly suffering, especially if you dont know if they are ok with it. More because i know the full story behind that photo and i cant laugh.

The cover of the rage against is not making fun through the picture and if i am not mistaken they are a strongly political band even though they are mainstream and suck ass. So the cover is part of the anti-system anti-war policy they have???? Yeah its different.

Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: HairyCunt on August 15, 2012, 11:42:12 AM
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for fucks sake, how stupid are the people you are used to regergitating fox talking points too? you been trolling middle schools?


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Secondly, anyone that thinks this is immature is right.?  So is skateboarding.?  I hate purveyors of good taste.
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unfortnuately, i find PC equally annoying.



You are PC, and don't what imperialism means.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Sleazy on August 15, 2012, 12:00:09 PM
actually it's you that are confused. you can't tell the difference between someone who doesn't understand a concept and someone who associates that concept with different entities than you.

me thinking that cheney seems like an asshole doesn't mean that if you feel he's a nice guy that i don't understand what it means to be an asshole; it simply means that we differ on who we believe are assholes.

why don't you try and learn something new while you are here or at least have the balls to elevate your arguments above the ad hominem level

A People's History of American Empire by Howard Zinn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg#)

not understanding a concept is more like when fox or republicans talk about socialism like it's dichotomous and not continuous
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: HairyCunt on August 15, 2012, 12:07:12 PM
actually it's you that are confused. you can't tell the difference between someone who doesn't understand a concept and someone who associates that concept with different entities than you.

me thinking that cheney seems like an asshole doesn't mean that if you feel he's a nice guy that i don't understand what it means to be an asshole; it simply means that we differ on who we believe are assholes.

why don't you try and learn something new while you are here or at least have the balls to elevate your arguments above the ad hominem level

A People's History of American Empire by Howard Zinn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg#)

not understanding a concept is more like when fox or republicans talk about socialism like it's dichotomous and not continuous

LOLing at that video.  #Occupy2012

I appreciate your condescension, then posting a Howard Zinn people's history clip as proof of your "knowledge".  Ironically it shows the opposite. Howard Zinn was a charlatan and fanatic, unfit to teach history. People like you lap it up though.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: s a d e on August 15, 2012, 12:11:23 PM
yah, anti-hero ad's are great 99% of the time. they tripped a bit on this one.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: shredbuffalo on August 15, 2012, 12:39:54 PM
I don't think it's meant to be funny...Anyhow, since when is skateboarding politically correct, and all shiny and pretty?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: dankradschwag on August 15, 2012, 01:21:48 PM
obviously they were trying to be offensive and obviously they succeeded in that. i definitely remember talking with some friends about this ad when it came out.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Donkey Lips on August 15, 2012, 01:37:04 PM
Anti Hero made an ad that offended somebody? Gosh, what is this beautiful world of ours coming to?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Bertie on August 15, 2012, 01:38:41 PM
i think we've established that less thought went into this ad when it was made than we've now poured into it in this thread. it's dumb and poorly judged, but that doesn't mean anti-hero is altogether bullshit. it's still the best american skate company. kinda like when jason jessee flirts with nazi symbols, you have to accept the fact that many great skateboarders didn't finish school/get a job and haven't had to become well adjusted members of society. in anti-hero's case that's what they trade on.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: TheDonutFather on August 15, 2012, 02:06:29 PM
I watched an interview with that little napalm girl all grown up, and apparently she wholeheartedly forgives America for being all consuming draconian dickbags: 'the only path to world peace is forgivess', she said.

So even though I'd imagine her being bummed out by this add if she saw it, I'm certain she'd forgive the ones who like it, including myself. I personally don't have any guilt for liking shit that I like. Other than that I don't know why some think it's taboo to laugh at humanity's most humiliating moments. I'm black and I laughed at Dave Chappelle's Roots Blooper skit, as I'm certain the rest of you here have. Blah fucking blah blah.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: 360 frip on August 15, 2012, 02:10:05 PM
Are there any Anti-Hero ads which had a bigger backlash in America?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: witty pseudonym on August 15, 2012, 02:49:01 PM
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Old or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? �Where was it run web or magazine?

Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? �http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)

I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. �First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? �Fuck Anti-hero. �Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.

The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. �I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! �Grow some fucking balls.
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Have a sense of humour!

People are allowed to have a dark sense of humour. Have you never heard of post modernism, situationism, dada. etc?

You probably found the Gooks of Hazzard shirt offensive too. Bitch!
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You have proven again and again that you are incapable of higher level thought and completely uneducated in social matters.  I'm pretty sure everyone just ignores you at this point, but I will offer a reply in the hopes of influencing someone who is lurking and lacks the ability to place you on their ignore list.  By all means please keep regurgitating your cliched back-woods conservative thoughts though.  You only make anyone whose opinion differs from yours appear that much more intelligent.  Believe me, I am not surprised that someone like you found this ad amusing in the slightest.

I completely agree with you that people are allowed to have a dark sense of humour, but in the same vain I am completely allowed to call them out on this bullshit.  Someone who formerly supported Anti-hero and Deluxe may see this thread and also be fed up with this bullshit.  Deluxe knows this and thats why they always log on the boards to play damage control.  We are lucky that consumers in the skateboard industry have a pretty big voice.  I just wish more skaters would stop being mindless drones and have the balls to stand up when a skater or brand they worship does some fucking bullshit.  You're way more of a bitch for compromising your ideals because you don't want go against what is "cool."  We don't need racism in skateboarding and we certainly don't need to be mocking innocent adolescent war victims.  I don't see how you can willfully give money to a skateboard powerhouse owned by a former cop anyway.  Deluxe does way too much sketchy shit.
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So what exactly is Hentihero?  A parody, an homage?  A rip off?  because this sweatshirt is pretty fucking funny.
(http://www.natal.jp/natal_blog/hentihero.jpg)
(http://i2.ytimg.com/i/EDXHd5sTegGvdmUw60Ht4g/1.jpg?v=b0ea35)

Also, is this you?
http://www.youtube.com/user/hentihero (http://www.youtube.com/user/hentihero)


Where can I obtain this hooded sweatshirt? 
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Sleazy on August 15, 2012, 02:54:28 PM
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actually it's you that are confused. you can't tell the difference between someone who doesn't understand a concept and someone who associates that concept with different entities than you.

me thinking that cheney seems like an asshole doesn't mean that if you feel he's a nice guy that i don't understand what it means to be an asshole; it simply means that we differ on who we believe are assholes.

why don't you try and learn something new while you are here or at least have the balls to elevate your arguments above the ad hominem level

A People's History of American Empire by Howard Zinn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg#)

not understanding a concept is more like when fox or republicans talk about socialism like it's dichotomous and not continuous
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LOLing at that video. ? #Occupy2012

I appreciate your condescension, then posting a Howard Zinn people's history clip as proof of your "knowledge".?  Ironically it shows the opposite. Howard Zinn was a charlatan and fanatic, unfit to teach history. People like you lap it up though.

actually you are the one who was being condecending by questioning my intellegence in your reply instead of replying with something of substance; i was being sarcastic in my reply, not condesending. you really think i talk like an asshole all the time? dichotomous??? that's clearly asshole talk.

and actually i prefer james loewen to zinn but zinn's "a peoples history" is a good read. but considering that you are obviously a history buff then what do you recomend for american history?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: macgruber on August 15, 2012, 03:06:31 PM
(http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/america---vietnam-banksy-338505_715_519.jpg)
Reminded me of this for obvious reasons.


American soldiers pushing innocent crying childrens forward on skateboards. What could the message be?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: floop on August 15, 2012, 03:09:39 PM
it's immature shock value, don't overthink it. Skateboarding has as much to do with politics as it does energy drinks. It's all one big sellout, anti hero just tries harder than others to not look like a sellout. This ad being the result of trying to hard.



skateboarding might not have much to do with politics but skate art has to do with art.  i'm not even talking about this particular ad either but i'm sure if you talked to most artists who work in skateboarding (graphics, ads whatever) they take their art seriously to some degree.  skateboarding is one commercial outlet where art has a chance to be more subversive and edgy (maybe less and less, but it's still there).  at the end of the day yeah, it's just skateboards, but when you look back at skate art history there's a treasure trove of interesting things going on
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Pike St on August 15, 2012, 03:14:08 PM
LMAO at the people, "fuck you, you suck, stop posting, I can't read your posts." Getting highly offended by text on a screen, but in the same breath, "oh this ad doesn't bother me, I'm so tough..." haha talk about kook shit. Thats the essence of being a kooky hypocrite. "Why can't you all just shut the fuck up, its an Anti-Hero ad!" "Anti-Hero shouldn't have put this ad out!" Same exact thing. "Fuck I have ADD!" Some of you couldn't hang in an art gallery or an art show, that is for sure. "What the fuck are you looking at that picture for! It's a fucking picture!" "I know its a fucking picture, I'm fucking looking at it!" "I look at pictures and fucking look at the next picture like a fucking man!" "Well good for you! I look at pictures and figure out why the fuck they painted the picture for." "What the fuck? Why the fuck would you waste your time doing that? It's a fucking picture." "Well a picture is worth a thousand words..." "Damn. You're a fucking Kook. Fuck you." "Fuck you. You spend more time arguing with me than looking at the pictures, who is the kook?" "Fuck you." "Ok kook. Keep arguing, fucking dick rider." "You're fanning out on the pictures, faggot." "That is what you do at art galleries, you fan out faggot." "You're just a bitch." "Who the fuck are you?" "I'm not a fucking hipster like you." "Now I'm a hipster?" "I just came here for the free drinks." "Thats kook shit bro." "What the fuck are you doing here then fuck head?" "I don't know." "Ok bro..."
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: chockfullofthat on August 15, 2012, 03:51:14 PM
LMAO at the people, "fuck you, you suck, stop posting, I can't read your posts." Getting highly offended by text on a screen, but in the same breath, "oh this ad doesn't bother me, I'm so tough..." haha talk about kook shit. Thats the essence of being a kooky hypocrite. "Why can't you all just shut the fuck up, its an Anti-Hero ad!" "Anti-Hero shouldn't have put this ad out!" Same exact thing. "Fuck I have ADD!" Some of you couldn't hang in an art gallery or an art show, that is for sure. "What the fuck are you looking at that picture for! It's a fucking picture!" "I know its a fucking picture, I'm fucking looking at it!" "I look at pictures and fucking look at the next picture like a fucking man!" "Well good for you! I look at pictures and figure out why the fuck they painted the picture for." "What the fuck? Why the fuck would you waste your time doing that? It's a fucking picture." "Well a picture is worth a thousand words..." "Damn. You're a fucking Kook. Fuck you." "Fuck you. You spend more time arguing with me than looking at the pictures, who is the kook?" "Fuck you." "Ok kook. Keep arguing, fucking dick rider." "You're fanning out on the pictures, faggot." "That is what you do at art galleries, you fan out faggot." "You're just a bitch." "Who the fuck are you?" "I'm not a fucking hipster like you." "Now I'm a hipster?" "I just came here for the free drinks." "Thats kook shit bro." "What the fuck are you doing here then fuck head?" "I don't know." "Ok bro..."

(http://www.pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/when-someone-starts-telling-an-embarrassing-story-about-you1.gif)
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Seamus_McShamebag on August 15, 2012, 04:04:01 PM
LMAO at the people, "fuck you, you suck, stop posting, I can't read your posts." Getting highly offended by text on a screen, but in the same breath, "oh this ad doesn't bother me, I'm so tough..." haha talk about kook shit. Thats the essence of being a kooky hypocrite. "Why can't you all just shut the fuck up, its an Anti-Hero ad!" "Anti-Hero shouldn't have put this ad out!" Same exact thing. "Fuck I have ADD!" Some of you couldn't hang in an art gallery or an art show, that is for sure. "What the fuck are you looking at that picture for! It's a fucking picture!" "I know its a fucking picture, I'm fucking looking at it!" "I look at pictures and fucking look at the next picture like a fucking man!" "Well good for you! I look at pictures and figure out why the fuck they painted the picture for." "What the fuck? Why the fuck would you waste your time doing that? It's a fucking picture." "Well a picture is worth a thousand words..." "Damn. You're a fucking Kook. Fuck you." "Fuck you. You spend more time arguing with me than looking at the pictures, who is the kook?" "Fuck you." "Ok kook. Keep arguing, fucking dick rider." "You're fanning out on the pictures, faggot." "That is what you do at art galleries, you fan out faggot." "You're just a bitch." "Who the fuck are you?" "I'm not a fucking hipster like you." "Now I'm a hipster?" "I just came here for the free drinks." "Thats kook shit bro." "What the fuck are you doing here then fuck head?" "I don't know." "Ok bro..."

Fucking fuck this post is fucking fuck, fuck man...fuck.

boondock saints fuck compilation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAGy90hQxA#)
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Skate Edge on August 15, 2012, 05:06:13 PM
Shame on Anti-Hero.  Those guys are older than me.  They should know that ad is fucked up.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Dontfearthereefer on August 15, 2012, 06:17:01 PM
I think you guys are perceiving the Ad wrong, there should be more ads like this. The truth hurts
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: doomstation55 on August 15, 2012, 06:41:19 PM
I can respect artist integrity as well as free speech, but there are some issues that are best left out of skateboard advertising. I mean, who would think it'd be ok if Anti-Hero had a picture of one the World Trade Center towers collapsing and saying something along the lines of "Anti Hero bringin down the house!"?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: HairyCunt on August 15, 2012, 07:14:32 PM
I can respect artist integrity as well as free speech, but there are some issues that are best left out of skateboard advertising. I mean, who would think it'd be ok if Anti-Hero had a picture of one the World Trade Center towers collapsing and saying something along the lines of "Anti Hero bringin down the house!"?

That would be corny.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Made In China on August 15, 2012, 08:47:36 PM
well... I kind of liked it?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: brycickle on August 15, 2012, 09:34:55 PM
So the general consensus then is, too soon?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: ChronicBluntSlider on August 15, 2012, 10:29:00 PM
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Is it funny because its human suffering, or funny because its human suffering on a skateboard? Not saying it shouldn't of been ran or anything, but somebody describe why its funny?
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I don't understand why people think it's supposed to be funny in the first place.  It's Anti-Hero (the little guys) vs. the soldiers (the big, authoritarian guys).  It's the same style Anti-Hero (note the name) has always had.  They're the Travis Bickle of skateboarding in image.  I would honestly love to watch Salo with some of you guys.  We shouldn't be discussing whether or not it's offensive (it's supposed to be), we should be discussing whether or not it's effective (this thread proves it is).  Photoshopping dicks in Berra's mouth (don't stop) is fine, but subverting an iconic image for the umpteenth time is offensive?

I wasn't insinuating the ads intentions, they probably do think of it as anti-war, but several people on the first page said it was funny. I was asking them.

And a penis in Berra's mouth and napalmed children is a ludicrous comparison.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Jive Turkey on August 15, 2012, 10:33:34 PM
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Is it funny because its human suffering, or funny because its human suffering on a skateboard? Not saying it shouldn't of been ran or anything, but somebody describe why its funny?
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I don't understand why people think it's supposed to be funny in the first place.  It's Anti-Hero (the little guys) vs. the soldiers (the big, authoritarian guys).  It's the same style Anti-Hero (note the name) has always had.  They're the Travis Bickle of skateboarding in image.  I would honestly love to watch Salo with some of you guys.  We shouldn't be discussing whether or not it's offensive (it's supposed to be), we should be discussing whether or not it's effective (this thread proves it is).  Photoshopping dicks in Berra's mouth (don't stop) is fine, but subverting an iconic image for the umpteenth time is offensive?
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I wasn't insinuating the ads intentions, they probably do think of it as anti-war, but several people on the first page said it was funny. I was asking them.

And a penis in Berra's mouth and napalmed children is a ludicrous comparison.
But a napalmed Berra with a dick in his mouth would be funny.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: brycickle on August 15, 2012, 10:42:01 PM
Or the dick could be napalmed and Berra could be fine. It will still be in Berra's mouth though.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Mescalito on August 15, 2012, 10:46:11 PM
Thats pretty fucking awesome
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Jive Turkey on August 15, 2012, 11:01:48 PM
Or the dick could be napalmed and Berra could be fine. It will still be in Berra's mouth though.
That's the important part.

OR!
A dick giving Berra a napalm bukkake.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: G.Lewis on August 16, 2012, 12:32:02 AM
4 pages deep?  Looks like we have some college boys here.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: foureyedjim on August 16, 2012, 01:30:30 AM
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Or the dick could be napalmed and Berra could be fine. It will still be in Berra's mouth though.
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That's the important part.

OR!
A dick giving Berra a napalm bukkake.

mmm delish
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: TheGodoyTwins on August 16, 2012, 02:24:30 AM
Obviously many of you were either too young or forgot many of the ads Rocco ran 22 years ago. In fact, some of the ads he tried to run, but were rejected by the mags, make this one look tame. Christ you kids, get a little perspective and relax.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: foureyedjim on August 16, 2012, 02:54:48 AM
Obviously many of you were either too young or forgot many of the ads Rocco ran 22 years ago. In fact, some of the ads he tried to run, but were rejected by the mags, make this one look tame. Christ you kids, get a little perspective and relax.

Not saying you don't have a point, but it's a little hypocritical telling people to 'get a little perspective' when you're ragging on 'kids' because they have a different frame of mind than you.

Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Participation on August 16, 2012, 02:58:43 AM
FREE MAX B
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Pete on August 16, 2012, 09:26:51 AM
FREE MAX B
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: GAY on August 16, 2012, 10:14:11 AM

for those of you who offended, is this also offensive and if not then why not?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg/220px-RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg)

isn't this also explioting horrors of that war for marketing?

SWEET FEATHERY JESUS!!! This is HIGHLY OFFENSIVE. Rage Against the Machine sucks mad donkey dick. The photo is neat, though!
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: mds on August 16, 2012, 10:56:42 AM
It`s probably pretty hard to shock surprise anyone with their skating,
so they do what they have to.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: casper on August 16, 2012, 11:54:42 AM
that image was the first thing i ever saw of anti hero years and years ago. before there actually was an anti hero  somebody, probably  julian or one of the dlx art dudes back in the day made a bunch of xerox stickers on bright orange sticker paper. real budget shit. i think there was a few different ones but i remember this one because i had it. one of my homies was working shipping at that time and brought a bunch home with him one day. talking about how it was gonna be the dlx company and shit. i dont know why they waited 15 years to run it as an ad but that shit is old old old.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: HairyCunt on August 16, 2012, 12:25:47 PM
4 pages deep?  Looks like we have some college boys here.

Fuck you and your horrible Crass covers.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Bertie on August 16, 2012, 01:18:27 PM
4 pages deep?  Looks like we have some college boys here.
ya
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: waltercronkite on August 16, 2012, 04:14:37 PM
It`s probably pretty hard to shock surprise anyone with their skating,
so they do what they have to.

HAH idiot
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: toque on August 17, 2012, 02:10:09 PM
"I look at pictures and fucking look at the next picture like a fucking man!"


I'm going to try this one out next time I end up at an art show. 
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: enzone on August 17, 2012, 02:19:09 PM
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4 pages deep?  Looks like we have some college boys here.
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Fuck you and your horrible Crass covers.

meh.. i like his crass covers.. but i love harry crews so i'm automatically kewl/badass! harry crews was a mark ;)
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: art hellman on August 17, 2012, 02:20:53 PM
Devo - Mongoloid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6lY8UmMIUY#)
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: i used to skate on August 17, 2012, 08:53:48 PM
can i get a re-up of the ad?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: DirtMaKirk on August 18, 2012, 08:01:33 AM
can i get a re-up of the ad?
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: JamesNtheGntPch on August 18, 2012, 05:39:34 PM
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for those of you who offended, is this also offensive and if not then why not?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg/220px-RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg)

isn't this also explioting horrors of that war for marketing?
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SWEET FEATHERY JESUS!!! This is HIGHLY OFFENSIVE. Rage Against the Machine sucks mad donkey dick. The photo is neat, though!

I don't find this offensive.  They aren't mocking the monk in the image.  They are identifying with the monk's protest against the Chinese establishment.  And I don't think Rage Against the Machine has a marketing agenda like a corporation.

If you can compare singing songs about sticking it to the man to setting yourself on fire for a cause? I don't know.

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Also, here's a question for everyone giving Anti Hero a thumbs up. 

How would you feel if Anti Hero used a personal misfortune of yours as a marketing piece?  A photo of your friend with his brains on the sidewalk or a snapshot of you and your family huddled outside in front of the burning pile of rubble that was your house. 

(http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/gallery/m4ybtj-b78961475z.120120601113618000gnt183uba.1.jpg)
These are real people that don't deserve to be ridiculed for their pain and suffering.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: MFLUDER on August 19, 2012, 04:04:52 AM
I've bitten my tongue on this but as I feel anti hero represent a really lost attitude to skating as in not taking themselves seriously and having really great marketing this ad is just so sloppy. We can all agree how good that new video is for the pigeon series of boards and most anti hero ads are so cleaver and a great commentary on skateboarding. I think this is just laziness from their part and maybe just a dull week.
Its actually an awful ad, everything about it is fucked. I love a controversial well timed ad but something like this is so sloppy with no thought and just a blatant grab overstepping the mark. Dont fuck with innocent kids in a weird weak attempt to seem edgy cool and really ruin a brand.
This thread has attracted five pages of bickering and anti hero have always held a consensus with skateboarders that they are just cool.
This ad is not cool, its weak, and they for the first time in quite a while wont be getting my support.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: DirtMaKirk on August 19, 2012, 05:59:19 AM
i think i saw this ad a while back and was preoccupied and didnt think twice.. but dam.. :-\
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on August 19, 2012, 09:01:54 AM
glad none of you guys listen to crust punk.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: witty pseudonym on August 19, 2012, 09:12:43 AM
I'm pretty sure the entire point of this ad is to be controversial.  How can you not see that?  Any more debate on the subject just cements the purpose of the ad.   
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: DirtMaKirk on August 19, 2012, 11:03:43 AM
glad none of you guys listen to crust punk.
I'm pretty sure the entire point of this ad is to be controversial.  How can you not see that?  Any more debate on the subject just cements the purpose of the ad.   
o yea naked suffering kids whoose parents prob just got excecuted in front of them is controversial, so is taking a pic of the bodies bein burned during the holocaust or better yet a severed hand from 9/11.. theres crossing the line and crust punk is a subculture and listening to punk and being about it is way less exploited than in a skate magazine u can buy at barns and noble..
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Mouth on August 19, 2012, 03:50:31 PM
I've bitten my tongue on this but as I feel anti hero represent a really lost attitude to skating as in not taking themselves seriously and having really great marketing this ad is just so sloppy. We can all agree how good that new video is for the pigeon series of boards and most anti hero ads are so cleaver and a great commentary on skateboarding. I think this is just laziness from their part and maybe just a dull week.
Its actually an awful ad, everything about it is fucked. I love a controversial well timed ad but something like this is so sloppy with no thought and just a blatant grab overstepping the mark. Dont fuck with innocent kids in a weird weak attempt to seem edgy cool and really ruin a brand.
This thread has attracted five pages of bickering and anti hero have always held a consensus with skateboarders that they are just cool.
This ad is not cool, its weak, and they for the first time in quite a while wont be getting my support.


Exactly. This ad is uncreative juvenile faggotry of the lowest order.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: HeavyweightLurker on August 20, 2012, 05:59:51 AM
It?s an old Anti hero ad you discuss...

Anti Hero was since the begining controversial
They use an price and award winning iconic photo an document of history and war
for an ad.
I dont want to disuss if this is an good ar an bad ad.
I woud prever an good skatephoto from Stranger...
But this photo is 100% Anti War.
and i know Stranger/Cardiel/Anti Hero are 100% anti War/ nuclear power and nuclear weapeons.

Anything you read between the lines for that photo is just imagination in your head.

The goverment of USA make the decision to use Napalm Bombs in a war against the civil community.
Nobody from the goverment get in charge for that.
Sice the vitnam war the goverment of USA do that any given day. They just change the weapons.
In my point of view this is an crime.
This photo was taken and is an document of time. This is not an crime.
To use this photo for an Ad of an Skateboard Company in a Skateboard Magazin - is a little strange, and some think it doesent fit
to Skateboarding... but Cardiel and Stranger think different... but that again is not an crime.

If you dont like pictures of war - dont do war.
Then nobody can use this photos in an offensive /provocative way.

As long we do war, people do photos of that and some people will use this photos to inform or provocate other
people.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: Fenzadill on August 20, 2012, 07:26:49 AM
It?s an old Anti hero ad you discuss...

Anti Hero was since the begining controversial
They use an price and award winning iconic photo an document of history and war
for an ad.
I dont want to disuss if this is an good ar an bad ad.
I woud prever an good skatephoto from Stranger...
But this photo is 100% Anti War.
and i know Stranger/Cardiel/Anti Hero are 100% anti War/ nuclear power and nuclear weapeons.

Anything you read between the lines for that photo is just imagination in your head.

The goverment of USA make the decision to use Napalm Bombs in a war against the civil community.
Nobody from the goverment get in charge for that.
Sice the vitnam war the goverment of USA do that any given day. They just change the weapons.
In my point of view this is an crime.
This photo was taken and is an document of time. This is not an crime.
To use this photo for an Ad of an Skateboard Company in a Skateboard Magazin - is a little strange, and some think it doesent fit
to Skateboarding... but Cardiel and Stranger think different... but that again is not an crime.

If you dont like pictures of war - dont do war.
Then nobody can use this photos in an offensive /provocative way.

As long we do war, people do photos of that and some people will use this photos to inform or provocate other
people.

Man, you are right.  Thank you for this thoughtful exposition, I am confident it will ride the world of "war" in the abstract.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: doomstation55 on August 20, 2012, 04:48:50 PM
It?s an old Anti hero ad you discuss...

Anti Hero was since the begining controversial
They use an price and award winning iconic photo an document of history and war
for an ad.
I dont want to disuss if this is an good ar an bad ad.
I woud prever an good skatephoto from Stranger...
But this photo is 100% Anti War.
and i know Stranger/Cardiel/Anti Hero are 100% anti War/ nuclear power and nuclear weapeons.

Anything you read between the lines for that photo is just imagination in your head.

The goverment of USA make the decision to use Napalm Bombs in a war against the civil community.
Nobody from the goverment get in charge for that.
Sice the vitnam war the goverment of USA do that any given day. They just change the weapons.
In my point of view this is an crime.
This photo was taken and is an document of time. This is not an crime.
To use this photo for an Ad of an Skateboard Company in a Skateboard Magazin - is a little strange, and some think it doesent fit
to Skateboarding... but Cardiel and Stranger think different... but that again is not an crime.

If you dont like pictures of war - dont do war.
Then nobody can use this photos in an offensive /provocative way.

As long we do war, people do photos of that and some people will use this photos to inform or provocate other
people.

You're right, I not do war and it won't be an crime. It was imagination in my head.
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: i used to skate on August 20, 2012, 07:22:09 PM
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can i get a re-up of the ad?
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Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: macgruber on August 22, 2012, 11:31:17 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8sapeUVMb1qeoeyxo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: HeavyweightLurker on August 26, 2012, 01:10:04 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8sapeUVMb1qeoeyxo1_500.jpg)

thanks for reposting that ad, i forgot how shitty it was....
Title: Re: Terrible Anti Hero Ad
Post by: witty pseudonym on August 26, 2012, 01:25:08 PM
But without war, we wouldn't have Call of Duty...