Old or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? Where was it run web or magazine?
Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)
I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? Fuck Anti-hero. Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.
The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! Grow some fucking balls.
this is pretty pathetic for a grown man's work. the idea that anyone involved with anti-hero would have heard of situationism or dadaists is hilarious.
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOld or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? �Where was it run web or magazine?
Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? �http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)
I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. �First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? �Fuck Anti-hero. �Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.
The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. �I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! �Grow some fucking balls.[close]
Have a sense of humour!
People are allowed to have a dark sense of humour. Have you never heard of post modernism, situationism, dada. etc?
You probably found the Gooks of Hazzard shirt offensive too. Bitch![close]
You have proven again and again that you are incapable of higher level thought and completely uneducated in social matters. I'm pretty sure everyone just ignores you at this point, but I will offer a reply in the hopes of influencing someone who is lurking and lacks the ability to place you on their ignore list. By all means please keep regurgitating your cliched back-woods conservative thoughts though. You only make anyone whose opinion differs from yours appear that much more intelligent. Believe me, I am not surprised that someone like you found this ad amusing in the slightest.
I completely agree with you that people are allowed to have a dark sense of humour, but in the same vain I am completely allowed to call them out on this bullshit. Someone who formerly supported Anti-hero and Deluxe may see this thread and also be fed up with this bullshit. Deluxe knows this and thats why they always log on the boards to play damage control. We are lucky that consumers in the skateboard industry have a pretty big voice. I just wish more skaters would stop being mindless drones and have the balls to stand up when a skater or brand they worship does some fucking bullshit. You're way more of a bitch for compromising your ideals because you don't want go against what is "cool." We don't need racism in skateboarding and we certainly don't need to be mocking innocent adolescent war victims. I don't see how you can willfully give money to a skateboard powerhouse owned by a former cop anyway. Deluxe does way too much sketchy shit.
Old or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? Where was it run web or magazine?
Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)
I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? Fuck Anti-hero. Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.
The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! Grow some fucking balls.
i think that the idea of this ad was to draw attention to how fucked up war is. This is clearly an anti war ad and anyone getting worked up about it has missed the point
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteOld or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? �Where was it run web or magazine?
Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? �http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)
I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. �First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? �Fuck Anti-hero. �Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.
The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. �I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! �Grow some fucking balls.[close]
Have a sense of humour!
People are allowed to have a dark sense of humour. Have you never heard of post modernism, situationism, dada. etc?
You probably found the Gooks of Hazzard shirt offensive too. Bitch![close]
You have proven again and again that you are incapable of higher level thought and completely uneducated in social matters. �I'm pretty sure everyone just ignores you at this point, but I will offer a reply in the hopes of influencing someone who is lurking and lacks the ability to place you on their ignore list. �By all means please keep regurgitating your cliched back-woods conservative thoughts though. �You only make anyone whose opinion differs from yours appear that much more intelligent. �Believe me, I am not surprised that someone like you found this ad amusing in the slightest.
I completely agree with you that people are allowed to have a dark sense of humour, but in the same vain I am completely allowed to call them out on this bullshit. �Someone who formerly supported Anti-hero and Deluxe may see this thread and also be fed up with this bullshit. �Deluxe knows this and thats why they always log on the boards to play damage control. �We are lucky that consumers in the skateboard industry have a pretty big voice. �I just wish more skaters would stop being mindless drones and have the balls to stand up when a skater or brand they worship does some fucking bullshit.� You're way more of a bitch for compromising your ideals because you don't want go against what is "cool."� We don't need racism in skateboarding and we certainly don't need to be mocking innocent adolescent war victims.� I don't see how you can willfully give money to a skateboard powerhouse owned by a former cop anyway. �Deluxe does way too much sketchy shit.
The main kid seems to be living a remarkable life that has brought a lot of benefits to people?s lives.
The trauma depicted in the photo probably had a huge influence on her character and choices.
So, it?s reasonable to believe, that without such trauma, she would not have lead such a remarkable life, and all the lives she improved would not have been so improved.
If the worth of an event is judged by consequences, then it might be good that the event depicted in the photo occurred, if more good consequences followed from it occurring than would have followed from it not occurring.
So, it might be good that the event depicted in the photo occurred.
Is it objectionable for anti hero to parody events that might be good?
Expand Quote
The main kid seems to be living a remarkable life that has brought a lot of benefits to people?s lives.
The trauma depicted in the photo probably had a huge influence on her character and choices.
So, it?s reasonable to believe, that without such trauma, she would not have lead such a remarkable life, and all the lives she improved would not have been so improved.
If the worth of an event is judged by consequences, then it might be good that the event depicted in the photo occurred, if more good consequences followed from it occurring than would have followed from it not occurring.
So, it might be good that the event depicted in the photo occurred.
Is it objectionable for anti hero to parody events that might be good?[close]
And slavery was just one big favor . . . moron.
Is it funny because its human suffering, or funny because its human suffering on a skateboard? Not saying it shouldn't of been ran or anything, but somebody describe why its funny?I don't understand why people think it's supposed to be funny in the first place. It's Anti-Hero (the little guys) vs. the soldiers (the big, authoritarian guys). It's the same style Anti-Hero (note the name) has always had. They're the Travis Bickle of skateboarding in image. I would honestly love to watch Salo with some of you guys. We shouldn't be discussing whether or not it's offensive (it's supposed to be), we should be discussing whether or not it's effective (this thread proves it is). Photoshopping dicks in Berra's mouth (don't stop) is fine, but subverting an iconic image for the umpteenth time is offensive?
Old or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? �Where was it run web or magazine?
Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? �http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)
I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. �First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? �Fuck Anti-hero. �Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.
The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. �I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! �Grow some fucking balls.
Expand QuoteOld or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? �Where was it run web or magazine?
Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? �http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)
I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. �First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? �Fuck Anti-hero. �Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.
The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. �I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! �Grow some fucking balls.[close]
Uh, DLX made "Realief" decks and donated proceeds to the Tsunami relief. They support tons of causes.
This is not an "ad" per se, this is to get into people's heads and I don't think it's meant to make people laugh. Probably the opposite.
There is pain in the photo but did any of you reactionaries consider that this is actually anti-war political SATIRE? A young audience is exposed to this and might think, understandably, "that is horrible" and as a result a skateboard "ad" might open some eyes and foster the next Vonnegut or Abbie Hoffman.
Has anyone who's upset by this ever looked at a Crass inlay or Dead Kennedy's album cover? However, Jello Biafra is seen as an ultra liberal crusader but the same kind of shit somehow makes Julien Stranger someone who thinks maimed kids is funny? Just look at the history of the graphics and ads, and notice all the anti-war, anti govt corruption, etc., messages incorporated into them. Look at some of that and you might "get" this.
Think about shit like this a little more, sometimes the real meaning is below the surface and I honestly believe that's the case here, whether it's poor taste or not it doesn't seem malicious, it forces people to confront evil shit instead of being ignorant to how fucked the world was, is, and will continue to be as long people are complacent and would prefer to not have to look at unpleasant images.
Anyone who's ever looked at a Crass or Dead Kennedy's inlay has also listened to those bands and so there's no ambiguity about the message.
Also, maybe some kid will see this horrible image and become the next Vonnegut?
Actually, I remember reading an interview with Vonnegut and he said he really appreciated the existence of offensive Anti hero ads because otherwise he would never have learned about the horrors of war. I think Slaughterhouse Five was actually based on an old World Industries ad but maybe I'm wrong.
You guys, this isn't "art" (Your opinion)
It's not deliberate historical commentary (your opinion), or even something that will generate meaningful conversation unintentionally(it has). Wrong audience (exact audience), wrong medium (exact medium). This is the Anti Hero art department seeing a "gnarly" image (speculation) and slapping their logo on it (speculation), because "gnarly" is their thing (It is. So what? Don't buy it). Stop defending shitty things (opinion).
Old or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? Where was it run web or magazine?Racism and war are funny no matter who makes the joke
Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)
I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? Fuck Anti-hero. Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.
The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! Grow some fucking balls.
Having an extra chromosome must be hard for youExpand QuoteAnyone who's ever looked at a Crass or Dead Kennedy's inlay has also listened to those bands and so there's no ambiguity about the message.
Also, maybe some kid will see this horrible image and become the next Vonnegut?
Actually, I remember reading an interview with Vonnegut and he said he really appreciated the existence of offensive Anti hero ads because otherwise he would never have learned about the horrors of war. I think Slaughterhouse Five was actually based on an old World Industries ad but maybe I'm wrong.[close]
I am going to assume this is some kind of joke.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five)
I don't understand why people think it's supposed to be funny in the first place. It's Anti-Hero (the little guys) vs. the soldiers (the big, authoritarian guys). It's the same style Anti-Hero (note the name) has always had. They're the Travis Bickle of skateboarding in image. I would honestly love to watch Salo with some of you guys. We shouldn't be discussing whether or not it's offensive (it's supposed to be), we should be discussing whether or not it's effective (this thread proves it is). Photoshopping dicks in Berra's mouth (don't stop) is fine, but subverting an iconic image for the umpteenth time is offensive?Expand QuoteIs it funny because its human suffering, or funny because its human suffering on a skateboard? Not saying it shouldn't of been ran or anything, but somebody describe why its funny?[close]
Having an extra chromosome must be hard for youExpand QuoteExpand QuoteAnyone who's ever looked at a Crass or Dead Kennedy's inlay has also listened to those bands and so there's no ambiguity about the message.
Also, maybe some kid will see this horrible image and become the next Vonnegut?
Actually, I remember reading an interview with Vonnegut and he said he really appreciated the existence of offensive Anti hero ads because otherwise he would never have learned about the horrors of war. I think Slaughterhouse Five was actually based on an old World Industries ad but maybe I'm wrong.[close]
I am going to assume this is some kind of joke.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaughterhouse-Five)[close]
Is it funny because its human suffering, or funny because its human suffering on a skateboard? Not saying it shouldn't of been ran or anything, but somebody describe why its funny?
Anyone who's ever looked at a Crass or Dead Kennedy's inlay has also listened to those bands and so there's no ambiguity about the message.
Also, maybe some kid will see this horrible image and become the next Vonnegut?
Actually, I remember reading an interview with Vonnegut and he said he really appreciated the existence of offensive Anti hero ads because otherwise he would never have learned about the horrors of war. I think Slaughterhouse Five was actually based on an old World Industries ad but maybe I'm wrong.
You guys, this isn't "art"
It's not deliberate historical commentary, or even something that will generate meaningful conversation unintentionally. Wrong audience, wrong medium. This is the Anti Hero art department seeing a "gnarly" image and slapping their logo on it, because "gnarly" is their thing. Stop defending shitty things. Free Max B, I guess.
It's funny for the same reason this is funny:
(http://i50.tinypic.com/1pwmmp.jpg)
It's funny to take something terrible and make it look harmless, I guess.
i think that the idea of this ad was to draw attention to how fucked up war is. This is clearly an anti war ad and anyone getting worked up about it has missed the point
Lame tasteless ad. I can't say that kind of humor isn't effective when done properly though.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d133/Mondo4352/Graves3.jpg)
don't like it, too much pain in this picture
looking forward to the baker\dlx calbo series
but seriously, i wouldn't mind my kids seeing this when they were old enough to skate because they damn sure won't see this or any other iconic vietnam image in thier history books and i think it's important that my kids know about the horrors of war and of our imperalist past (well hopefully it will be past tense by then).
for those of you who offended, is this also offensive and if not then why not?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg/220px-RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg)
isn't this also explioting horrors of that war for marketing?
it's immature shock value, don't overthink it. Skateboarding has as much to do with politics as it does energy drinks. It's all one big sellout, anti hero just tries harder than others to not look like a sellout. This ad being the result of trying to hard.
looking forward to the baker\dlx calbo series
but seriously, i wouldn't mind my kids seeing this when they were old enough to skate because they damn sure won't see this or any other iconic vietnam image in thier history books and i think it's important that my kids know about the horrors of war and of our imperalist past (well hopefully it will be past tense by then).
for those of you who offended, is this also offensive and if not then why not?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg/220px-RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg)
isn't this also explioting horrors of that war for marketing?
You don't even know what imperialism means.
Secondly, anyone that thinks this is immature is right.? So is skateboarding.? I hate purveyors of good taste.
looking forward to the baker\dlx calbo seriesDont like making fun using a photo of someone clearly suffering, especially if you dont know if they are ok with it. More because i know the full story behind that photo and i cant laugh.
but seriously, i wouldn't mind my kids seeing this when they were old enough to skate because they damn sure won't see this or any other iconic vietnam image in thier history books and i think it's important that my kids know about the horrors of war and of our imperalist past (well hopefully it will be past tense by then).
for those of you who offended, is this also offensive and if not then why not?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg/220px-RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg)
isn't this also explioting horrors of that war for marketing?
Expand QuoteYou don't even know what imperialism means.[close]
for fucks sake, how stupid are the people you are used to regergitating fox talking points too? you been trolling middle schools?Expand QuoteSecondly, anyone that thinks this is immature is right.? So is skateboarding.? I hate purveyors of good taste.[close]
unfortnuately, i find PC equally annoying.
actually it's you that are confused. you can't tell the difference between someone who doesn't understand a concept and someone who associates that concept with different entities than you.
me thinking that cheney seems like an asshole doesn't mean that if you feel he's a nice guy that i don't understand what it means to be an asshole; it simply means that we differ on who we believe are assholes.
why don't you try and learn something new while you are here or at least have the balls to elevate your arguments above the ad hominem level
A People's History of American Empire by Howard Zinn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg#)
not understanding a concept is more like when fox or republicans talk about socialism like it's dichotomous and not continuous
Expand QuoteExpand QuoteExpand QuoteOld or not, is this an actual Anti-hero ad? �Where was it run web or magazine?
Mocking innocent Children victim to war is edgy, cool, and apparently funny now?
Do you even know the origins of this photo? �http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phan_Thi_Kim_Phuc)
I know it's sort of Anti-hero's thing to be... well fucking regular, but seriously fuck them. �First mocking the nuclear meltdown caused by the tsunamis and earthquakes in Japan and now this? �Fuck Anti-hero. �Fuck Deluxe and fuck that ex-pig Mic-E Reyes.
The same little fuckers tolerating this shit are the ones who found Baker's racism amusing. �I guess racism and war are funny if it's your favorite skateboarders making the joke! �Grow some fucking balls.[close]
Have a sense of humour!
People are allowed to have a dark sense of humour. Have you never heard of post modernism, situationism, dada. etc?
You probably found the Gooks of Hazzard shirt offensive too. Bitch![close]
You have proven again and again that you are incapable of higher level thought and completely uneducated in social matters. I'm pretty sure everyone just ignores you at this point, but I will offer a reply in the hopes of influencing someone who is lurking and lacks the ability to place you on their ignore list. By all means please keep regurgitating your cliched back-woods conservative thoughts though. You only make anyone whose opinion differs from yours appear that much more intelligent. Believe me, I am not surprised that someone like you found this ad amusing in the slightest.
I completely agree with you that people are allowed to have a dark sense of humour, but in the same vain I am completely allowed to call them out on this bullshit. Someone who formerly supported Anti-hero and Deluxe may see this thread and also be fed up with this bullshit. Deluxe knows this and thats why they always log on the boards to play damage control. We are lucky that consumers in the skateboard industry have a pretty big voice. I just wish more skaters would stop being mindless drones and have the balls to stand up when a skater or brand they worship does some fucking bullshit. You're way more of a bitch for compromising your ideals because you don't want go against what is "cool." We don't need racism in skateboarding and we certainly don't need to be mocking innocent adolescent war victims. I don't see how you can willfully give money to a skateboard powerhouse owned by a former cop anyway. Deluxe does way too much sketchy shit.[close]
So what exactly is Hentihero? A parody, an homage? A rip off? because this sweatshirt is pretty fucking funny.
(http://www.natal.jp/natal_blog/hentihero.jpg)
(http://i2.ytimg.com/i/EDXHd5sTegGvdmUw60Ht4g/1.jpg?v=b0ea35)
Also, is this you?
http://www.youtube.com/user/hentihero (http://www.youtube.com/user/hentihero)
Expand Quoteactually it's you that are confused. you can't tell the difference between someone who doesn't understand a concept and someone who associates that concept with different entities than you.
me thinking that cheney seems like an asshole doesn't mean that if you feel he's a nice guy that i don't understand what it means to be an asshole; it simply means that we differ on who we believe are assholes.
why don't you try and learn something new while you are here or at least have the balls to elevate your arguments above the ad hominem level
A People's History of American Empire by Howard Zinn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg#)
not understanding a concept is more like when fox or republicans talk about socialism like it's dichotomous and not continuous[close]
LOLing at that video. ? #Occupy2012
I appreciate your condescension, then posting a Howard Zinn people's history clip as proof of your "knowledge".? Ironically it shows the opposite. Howard Zinn was a charlatan and fanatic, unfit to teach history. People like you lap it up though.
it's immature shock value, don't overthink it. Skateboarding has as much to do with politics as it does energy drinks. It's all one big sellout, anti hero just tries harder than others to not look like a sellout. This ad being the result of trying to hard.
LMAO at the people, "fuck you, you suck, stop posting, I can't read your posts." Getting highly offended by text on a screen, but in the same breath, "oh this ad doesn't bother me, I'm so tough..." haha talk about kook shit. Thats the essence of being a kooky hypocrite. "Why can't you all just shut the fuck up, its an Anti-Hero ad!" "Anti-Hero shouldn't have put this ad out!" Same exact thing. "Fuck I have ADD!" Some of you couldn't hang in an art gallery or an art show, that is for sure. "What the fuck are you looking at that picture for! It's a fucking picture!" "I know its a fucking picture, I'm fucking looking at it!" "I look at pictures and fucking look at the next picture like a fucking man!" "Well good for you! I look at pictures and figure out why the fuck they painted the picture for." "What the fuck? Why the fuck would you waste your time doing that? It's a fucking picture." "Well a picture is worth a thousand words..." "Damn. You're a fucking Kook. Fuck you." "Fuck you. You spend more time arguing with me than looking at the pictures, who is the kook?" "Fuck you." "Ok kook. Keep arguing, fucking dick rider." "You're fanning out on the pictures, faggot." "That is what you do at art galleries, you fan out faggot." "You're just a bitch." "Who the fuck are you?" "I'm not a fucking hipster like you." "Now I'm a hipster?" "I just came here for the free drinks." "Thats kook shit bro." "What the fuck are you doing here then fuck head?" "I don't know." "Ok bro..."
LMAO at the people, "fuck you, you suck, stop posting, I can't read your posts." Getting highly offended by text on a screen, but in the same breath, "oh this ad doesn't bother me, I'm so tough..." haha talk about kook shit. Thats the essence of being a kooky hypocrite. "Why can't you all just shut the fuck up, its an Anti-Hero ad!" "Anti-Hero shouldn't have put this ad out!" Same exact thing. "Fuck I have ADD!" Some of you couldn't hang in an art gallery or an art show, that is for sure. "What the fuck are you looking at that picture for! It's a fucking picture!" "I know its a fucking picture, I'm fucking looking at it!" "I look at pictures and fucking look at the next picture like a fucking man!" "Well good for you! I look at pictures and figure out why the fuck they painted the picture for." "What the fuck? Why the fuck would you waste your time doing that? It's a fucking picture." "Well a picture is worth a thousand words..." "Damn. You're a fucking Kook. Fuck you." "Fuck you. You spend more time arguing with me than looking at the pictures, who is the kook?" "Fuck you." "Ok kook. Keep arguing, fucking dick rider." "You're fanning out on the pictures, faggot." "That is what you do at art galleries, you fan out faggot." "You're just a bitch." "Who the fuck are you?" "I'm not a fucking hipster like you." "Now I'm a hipster?" "I just came here for the free drinks." "Thats kook shit bro." "What the fuck are you doing here then fuck head?" "I don't know." "Ok bro..."
I can respect artist integrity as well as free speech, but there are some issues that are best left out of skateboard advertising. I mean, who would think it'd be ok if Anti-Hero had a picture of one the World Trade Center towers collapsing and saying something along the lines of "Anti Hero bringin down the house!"?
I don't understand why people think it's supposed to be funny in the first place. It's Anti-Hero (the little guys) vs. the soldiers (the big, authoritarian guys). It's the same style Anti-Hero (note the name) has always had. They're the Travis Bickle of skateboarding in image. I would honestly love to watch Salo with some of you guys. We shouldn't be discussing whether or not it's offensive (it's supposed to be), we should be discussing whether or not it's effective (this thread proves it is). Photoshopping dicks in Berra's mouth (don't stop) is fine, but subverting an iconic image for the umpteenth time is offensive?Expand QuoteIs it funny because its human suffering, or funny because its human suffering on a skateboard? Not saying it shouldn't of been ran or anything, but somebody describe why its funny?[close]
But a napalmed Berra with a dick in his mouth would be funny.Expand QuoteI don't understand why people think it's supposed to be funny in the first place. It's Anti-Hero (the little guys) vs. the soldiers (the big, authoritarian guys). It's the same style Anti-Hero (note the name) has always had. They're the Travis Bickle of skateboarding in image. I would honestly love to watch Salo with some of you guys. We shouldn't be discussing whether or not it's offensive (it's supposed to be), we should be discussing whether or not it's effective (this thread proves it is). Photoshopping dicks in Berra's mouth (don't stop) is fine, but subverting an iconic image for the umpteenth time is offensive?Expand QuoteIs it funny because its human suffering, or funny because its human suffering on a skateboard? Not saying it shouldn't of been ran or anything, but somebody describe why its funny?[close][close]
I wasn't insinuating the ads intentions, they probably do think of it as anti-war, but several people on the first page said it was funny. I was asking them.
And a penis in Berra's mouth and napalmed children is a ludicrous comparison.
Or the dick could be napalmed and Berra could be fine. It will still be in Berra's mouth though.That's the important part.
That's the important part.Expand QuoteOr the dick could be napalmed and Berra could be fine. It will still be in Berra's mouth though.[close]
OR!
A dick giving Berra a napalm bukkake.
Obviously many of you were either too young or forgot many of the ads Rocco ran 22 years ago. In fact, some of the ads he tried to run, but were rejected by the mags, make this one look tame. Christ you kids, get a little perspective and relax.
FREE MAX B
for those of you who offended, is this also offensive and if not then why not?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg/220px-RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg)
isn't this also explioting horrors of that war for marketing?
4 pages deep? Looks like we have some college boys here.
4 pages deep? Looks like we have some college boys here.ya
It`s probably pretty hard toshocksurprise anyone with their skating,
so they do what they have to.
"I look at pictures and fucking look at the next picture like a fucking man!"
Expand Quote4 pages deep? Looks like we have some college boys here.[close]
Fuck you and your horrible Crass covers.
can i get a re-up of the ad?
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for those of you who offended, is this also offensive and if not then why not?
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isn't this also explioting horrors of that war for marketing?[close]
SWEET FEATHERY JESUS!!! This is HIGHLY OFFENSIVE. Rage Against the Machine sucks mad donkey dick. The photo is neat, though!
glad none of you guys listen to crust punk.
I'm pretty sure the entire point of this ad is to be controversial. How can you not see that? Any more debate on the subject just cements the purpose of the ad.o yea naked suffering kids whoose parents prob just got excecuted in front of them is controversial, so is taking a pic of the bodies bein burned during the holocaust or better yet a severed hand from 9/11.. theres crossing the line and crust punk is a subculture and listening to punk and being about it is way less exploited than in a skate magazine u can buy at barns and noble..
I've bitten my tongue on this but as I feel anti hero represent a really lost attitude to skating as in not taking themselves seriously and having really great marketing this ad is just so sloppy. We can all agree how good that new video is for the pigeon series of boards and most anti hero ads are so cleaver and a great commentary on skateboarding. I think this is just laziness from their part and maybe just a dull week.
Its actually an awful ad, everything about it is fucked. I love a controversial well timed ad but something like this is so sloppy with no thought and just a blatant grab overstepping the mark. Dont fuck with innocent kids in a weird weak attempt to seem edgy cool and really ruin a brand.
This thread has attracted five pages of bickering and anti hero have always held a consensus with skateboarders that they are just cool.
This ad is not cool, its weak, and they for the first time in quite a while wont be getting my support.
It?s an old Anti hero ad you discuss...
Anti Hero was since the begining controversial
They use an price and award winning iconic photo an document of history and war
for an ad.
I dont want to disuss if this is an good ar an bad ad.
I woud prever an good skatephoto from Stranger...
But this photo is 100% Anti War.
and i know Stranger/Cardiel/Anti Hero are 100% anti War/ nuclear power and nuclear weapeons.
Anything you read between the lines for that photo is just imagination in your head.
The goverment of USA make the decision to use Napalm Bombs in a war against the civil community.
Nobody from the goverment get in charge for that.
Sice the vitnam war the goverment of USA do that any given day. They just change the weapons.
In my point of view this is an crime.
This photo was taken and is an document of time. This is not an crime.
To use this photo for an Ad of an Skateboard Company in a Skateboard Magazin - is a little strange, and some think it doesent fit
to Skateboarding... but Cardiel and Stranger think different... but that again is not an crime.
If you dont like pictures of war - dont do war.
Then nobody can use this photos in an offensive /provocative way.
As long we do war, people do photos of that and some people will use this photos to inform or provocate other
people.
It?s an old Anti hero ad you discuss...
Anti Hero was since the begining controversial
They use an price and award winning iconic photo an document of history and war
for an ad.
I dont want to disuss if this is an good ar an bad ad.
I woud prever an good skatephoto from Stranger...
But this photo is 100% Anti War.
and i know Stranger/Cardiel/Anti Hero are 100% anti War/ nuclear power and nuclear weapeons.
Anything you read between the lines for that photo is just imagination in your head.
The goverment of USA make the decision to use Napalm Bombs in a war against the civil community.
Nobody from the goverment get in charge for that.
Sice the vitnam war the goverment of USA do that any given day. They just change the weapons.
In my point of view this is an crime.
This photo was taken and is an document of time. This is not an crime.
To use this photo for an Ad of an Skateboard Company in a Skateboard Magazin - is a little strange, and some think it doesent fit
to Skateboarding... but Cardiel and Stranger think different... but that again is not an crime.
If you dont like pictures of war - dont do war.
Then nobody can use this photos in an offensive /provocative way.
As long we do war, people do photos of that and some people will use this photos to inform or provocate other
people.
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