Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock

[Stoop Kid 2.0]

You admit Jessie is not the instigator but he still punched the guy and you believe he’s innocent?? Would not be surprised if more than one person used violence at this point and won’t come forth.

[Sanka Coffie]

Not gonna lie, shit talking his girlfriend for starting a gofundme (that eventually got taken down) is pretty fucking wack. Not advocating the incident or on Jesse's side on this, but it's pretty unsurprising that someone would reach out for help for someone they're in a relationship with. I'm sure 90% of you, if involved in some sus behavior that resulted in needing legal help, would have a significant other or relative start a gofundme on your behalf. If you don't like it, don't donate.

[Skateforever]

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However you look at it though, Jesse is also a victim, a victim of a culture that has been allowed to go on far too long and that viewers and consumers have fueled by watching and buying boards etc.

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You actually have a very valid point here but in no way, shape or form can it be used to justify someone doing a stranger's head in (and not just in court) or else you could equally justify the incriminating actions of pretty much anybody behind bars and then it's the whole prison system you're questioning (why not, but not the time and place I don't think). Being weak enough to succumb to pop culture imagery (because that's what it is) and being irresponsible to actually go through with the act are two different things and a line it takes some issues to cross.

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How many of the people that are calling Jesse out, has laughed and shared similar videos where skaters have been in altercations with security and members of the public? If you did, you are all guilty of fueling the behavior that led to this.

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I don't think you're being realistic thinking you're a minority for never having being able to stand that type of hi-jinx in skate videos, in reality a lot of people share your position, some always have (i.e. the piss drunk shit was disgusting to me back in the day) and maybe they actually represent the majority of people who've been calling Jesse out which would be entirely logical?

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he is now being made a scapegoat for an entire culture

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No man come on, he made himself that scapegoat. A horrible thing to do in the first place without a fucking question but also in this case, in selfish terms of personal rep, bad time and place. With the internet shit like this just can't go unnoticed anymore as much as it would back in the 90's when people were a lot more isolated and anonymous. Now one could argue about Big Brother shit having become real, the people watching and snitching on one another through screens etc. but that would be besides the point as the real question is, would you rather let such behaviors get unnoticed? Do you reckon society would be better without its modern sophistication and all its pros and cons including crimes slipping through the cracks?

edit - just saw the above posts so the following may be unnecessary now, but

Also I would encourage getyourfaxstraight and Jesse's crew to stop antagonizing SLAP as a whole and realize this is the place they can try and turn public opinion around if they think they have the elements it takes to do so and can expose some of them publicly at this point. This thread seems full of people who've not bothered reading up on more than its first few pages, when the news were still fresh and before everybody established no skateboards were used in the fight, etc. so they're bound to catch a wave of nonsense from these guys but if they have a different version they can share that would somehow justify the terrible behavior displayed on the security footage (which honestly looks completely unjustifiable, good luck) then here is the place to do so in a constructive manner as opposed to isolated IG posts that are only talk to your little crew, that will only fuel the division and you'll catch flack for. A lot of people in this thread were GX fans before this shit show and it's not their fault your fight was publicized, at all. But it was and now your followers only have footage of you displaying some disgusting behavior to go off one. If anything those 40 pages prove that really nobody ever wanted this shit, but now it's you guys' and nobody's going back, so if you have arguments you can legally make public or even obscure hints to elements missing to the public version of the story then maybe you should dare to try and bring them.

You make some really good points man and I largely agree with you. Maybe I phrased my text wrong,  as you say a lot of things I believe in too.

Also really glad to hear I'm not in the minority, it often seems that way reading people's responses on here.

I absolutely don't want things to go unnoticed, I want to call it out all the time. Don't quite know where you would have got that from what I said. But to be clear I'm totally against it and definitely want it highlighted and stopped as it let's everyone in skateboarding down.

[Allen.]

^^^^go back a re-read what i wrote. Never said Jesse was innocent, quite the opposite...but wanted the True facts to be here so he isnt painted as the monster he is here on this forum.  2 punches were thrown -the 1st by Dan and the 2nd by Jesse...jesse couldve ended up in Dans position...the cards were against Dan that day.  Everyone involved lost huge here as does the city of San Francisco, the skaters who live there and this amazing skate spot

GX's angle:

[SneakySecrets]

Do you guys think the people at the security guard forum have sleeper cells in here doing recon like we did on them a few weeks ago?

[Hevonen]

Everyone on that crew is the instigator in the situation for continuing to skate there after told to go away numerous times, moving fences etc. There are always those awful kids in middle school who realize that teachers can't legally hit you and just do everything to be assholes to them, and the level of entitlement in some skate crews feels just like that.

Either try to bribe the security or just go behind the corner for 15minutes and try to get your shit quick.

[Get the strap]

The level of entitlement is fucking crazy...I bet these kooks will still try and convince everyone that they did nothing wrong when homeboy Jesse is locked up.

[Trickflip]

The level of entitlement is fucking crazy...I bet these kooks will still try and convince everyone that they did nothing wrong when homeboy Jesse is locked up.

You obviously are not up to date in this situation

[Get the strap]

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The level of entitlement is fucking crazy...I bet these kooks will still try and convince everyone that they did nothing wrong when homeboy Jesse is locked up.

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You obviously are not up to date in this situation

Obviously? What the fuck did I miss?

[TITANIUM NIPPLES]

This kid and CK need to be photoshopped into the Two Felons shop photo.

[skatedudesmokeguy]

Been hearing there is a different story now but no one is saying anything 

[Switch_fsflip_noseslide]

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New fundraiser - https://gogetfunding.com/jessevieiralegalfees/

"In addition, I would like to thank those that attempted to contributed on gofundme.com. Unfortunately, that platform didn't work out; people who contributed there are getting their money refunded. Thank you again."

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this one started by his GF...you pals think she'll stick by him if he looses and serves time

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Awwww why’d you do that lady!?

That's gold right there😅
Also the way it was said in "roll ups" made me laugh enough that it masked the real situation until about the 7th time I watched and realized that while I was laughing at a pedestrian get mowed down. Felt like a dick for a few days.

"Whyd you do that Jesse!?"

[DannyDee]

^^^no he is pretty much fckd in this situation....I only brought to light the facts so that the majority of you will give jesse a bit of a break in the harsh words being spoken about him by none of you who even know him.  This absolutely was a freak accident in which he did not intend for dan to recieve the results he was given. The back 50’r was punched in the face by Dan and Dan then threw his board into the street which heightened everyones reactions

I don't see a board getting thrown into the street or him throwing the first punch in the extended security footage that was on the NBC news twitter. It appears he grabs the guys board after he continued to skate the ledges and move the barricades.

While, no one planned for this guy to be in this position, legally, he seems fucked. They were trespassing, asked to leave, they continued to move barricades set-up to stop them from skating, a security guy grabs a board after a bunch of provocation and ends up in a coma.

I mean, staying around for one more try, and shit may seem normalized for a skater. But, to 12 citizens who show up for jury duty? It just seems like a bunch of punks escalating a conflict, which led to a terrible result.

[Hastings]

Not directly, but pretty much connected.

 When I was a little shit bag, I would of never dream of pushing over a old dude like that even if he was trying to grab my board.

Fuck this entitled mentality.

Also I hope things work out for Jesse the best they can, it is all pretty fucked though.

[CHONGO]

Not directly, but pretty much connected.

 When I was a little shit bag, I would of never dream of pushing over a old dude like that even if he was trying to grab my board.

Fuck this entitled mentality.

Also I hope things work out for Jesse the best they can, it is all pretty fucked though.

wow.. That was interesting to watch. I know I have said this many times. But that was beyond fucking wack. Those kids think they are so hard, pushing over older people, fucking up stores so they can get views on instagram or some lame shit.

[BacksideWallride]

This kid and CK need to be photoshopped into the Two Felons shop photo.

Fuck that why do people keep comparing Cory. THAT was an accident, GX loves violence.

And where are Jesse's boys on the wanted poster? They gonna let him take the fall for all of them.

As for those little fucks on that IG post, my girls daughter is in high school, acting like those kids are the new thing. "Savages" is what they claim

[BacksideWallride]

First of all a skateboard was never used on dan in this altercation...secondly it was his walkie talkie that was smashed next to his head on Dan’s first fall not a punch. Thirdly Jesse was not the initial instigator of the incident, take a closer look at video....1st skater-whom i wont name-back 50’s ledge almost into Dan.  That started this shit. Now it was Jesse’s decision to throw the punch that caused Dan his injury but it was the first skater that now has to consistently think the carnage he created for Jesse, GX and Dan.   Facts

If he's so innocent take that HD footage to the prosecutor ASAP. Out of 8 no one saying shit. Either they're scared or just letting their boy take the fall, or both

[Abyss1]

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This kid and CK need to be photoshopped into the Two Felons shop photo.

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Fuck that why do people keep comparing Cory. THAT was an accident, GX loves violence.

And where are Jesse's boys on the wanted poster? They gonna let him take the fall for all of them.

As for those little fucks on that IG post, my girls daughter is in high school, acting like those kids are the new thing. "Savages" is what they claim

Drinking and driving is no accident...but IMO CK1 situation was more tragic.

Jesse's boys probably dont want any of that SF DA smoke...so yea they probably are gonna

[BacksideWallride]

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This kid and CK need to be photoshopped into the Two Felons shop photo.

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Fuck that why do people keep comparing Cory. THAT was an accident, GX loves violence.

And where are Jesse's boys on the wanted poster? They gonna let him take the fall for all of them.

As for those little fucks on that IG post, my girls daughter is in high school, acting like those kids are the new thing. "Savages" is what they claim

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Drinking and driving is no accident...but IMO CK1 situation was more tragic.

Jesse's boys probably dont want any of that SF DA smoke...so yea they probably are gonna

I guess Cory's situation will always be as controversial but didn't he barely drink over a beer? Not wearing his seatbelt is what I thought I read biggest factor was in Preston's death

[silhouette]

Not directly, but pretty much connected.

So in reality this is all just wack CKY shit coming back... Crazy how thin some lines can be.

[Abyss1]

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This kid and CK need to be photoshopped into the Two Felons shop photo.

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Fuck that why do people keep comparing Cory. THAT was an accident, GX loves violence.

And where are Jesse's boys on the wanted poster? They gonna let him take the fall for all of them.

As for those little fucks on that IG post, my girls daughter is in high school, acting like those kids are the new thing. "Savages" is what they claim

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Drinking and driving is no accident...but IMO CK1 situation was more tragic.

Jesse's boys probably dont want any of that SF DA smoke...so yea they probably are gonna

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I guess Cory's situation will always be as controversial but didn't he barely drink over a beer? Not wearing his seatbelt is what I thought I read biggest factor was in Preston's death

Don’t know this detail...just heard they were all drinking before ...What was his Blood alcohol level

[conqueso]

Yeah that doesn't make sense. A large group of people were present and involved in a serious crime.

Gotta assume other dudes are on the run because cops and the legal system aren't just gonna let you walk from a situation like that.

[Ducky Fucky]

Burn GX

[BacksideWallride]

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First of all a skateboard was never used on dan in this altercation...secondly it was his walkie talkie that was smashed next to his head on Dan’s first fall not a punch. Thirdly Jesse was not the initial instigator of the incident, take a closer look at video....1st skater-whom i wont name-back 50’s ledge almost into Dan.  That started this shit. Now it was Jesse’s decision to throw the punch that caused Dan his injury but it was the first skater that now has to consistently think the carnage he created for Jesse, GX and Dan.   Facts

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If he's so innocent take that HD footage to the prosecutor ASAP. Out of 8 no one saying shit. Either they're scared or just letting their boy take the fall, or both

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Whats make you think GX hasnt submitted his footage already??  Again I never once said Jesse was innocent.  All of these guys are close friends, nobody is letting jesse take the fall. It was his decision to punch Dan.  This was a terrible accident...nobody wins here.

Well it didn't seem to win anyone over, still no bond and locked up

[Rockin Robbin]

Can someone give me a tl;dr of this shit?

[Ziad]

Any news on how the security guard is doing? is there a fundraiser for the guy?

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Any news on how the security guard is doing? is there a fundraiser for the guy?

https://www.gofundme.com/friends-of-dan-jansen

[SmarterChild]

[DannyDee]

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This kid and CK need to be photoshopped into the Two Felons shop photo.

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Fuck that why do people keep comparing Cory. THAT was an accident, GX loves violence.

And where are Jesse's boys on the wanted poster? They gonna let him take the fall for all of them.

As for those little fucks on that IG post, my girls daughter is in high school, acting like those kids are the new thing. "Savages" is what they claim

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Drinking and driving is no accident...but IMO CK1 situation was more tragic.

Jesse's boys probably dont want any of that SF DA smoke...so yea they probably are gonna

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I guess Cory's situation will always be as controversial but didn't he barely drink over a beer? Not wearing his seatbelt is what I thought I read biggest factor was in Preston's death

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Don’t know this detail...just heard they were all drinking before ...What was his Blood alcohol level

I think it was .10, but he also had weed in his system (no idea from how far back) and was driving recklessly. It really sucks for Cory, and P-Stone not wearing a seatbelt likely didn't help (but it looks like the passenger side went right into the tree).

[Abyss1]

^ well according to the alcohol help center

If your BAC is between 0.10 and 0.125 your speech will be slurred and your balance, vision, reactions time and hearing will be impaired. Your motor coordination will also be significantly impaired and you'll have a loss of good judgment.

Note: No matter where you live, it's illegal to drive. In fact, it'd be extremely irresponsible to drive anything at this point: including a boat, snowmobile, off-road vehicle – even a riding lawnmower. Not a good idea. Don't even think about it.