Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock

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Semi-OT but if anyone doesn't wanna watch the GX vid anymore because of all this shit, the Stay Awaysted video is pretty much the same exact thing

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The guys roof at the start. 18.30...I stopped watching then. Seems like the same kind of cunts without so many hill rollaways, and cautious editing perchance?

I was enjoying the video a lot, but then..... It's his house for God's sake.

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i dont think its that weird that delatorre went to turkey. seems like hes on a regular skate trip, not trying to flee the country to escape a crime. he may have even spoken to the cops already, who knows

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Not defending Dela or anything either but he also had an art show or something in Japan a couple weeks ago

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It’s a little silly to think that guy is on the run.  I’m sure he’s no Mensa candidate, but from what I gather, people on the run from the law tend to not broadcast their location to the world via Facebook.

In this day and age, don't expect too much

[Atiba Applebum]

Did you know that if you, say, attack somebody and punch them in the face or hit them with a weapon and they fall down and die, you can get into trouble even if you didn't hit them with the explicit intent to kill them?
Oh, unfair world!

basically Jesse Vieira is the Cameron Poe of skateboarding.  #ConFrontsideAir

[Gary Coleman]

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There is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things.

Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team.

What a shitty country we live in.

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Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense.  If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get.

Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.

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Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council.

By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.

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I do think it's fair to keep in mind that the prosecution would have unlimited resources to get the maximum possible penalty and with a public defender it's sort of a get what ya get situation. If Jesse can't pay his lawyer he'll likely wind up going the PD route. The Gofundme didn't bug because having equally matched legal teams can mean the difference between years and decades in jail. Whoever hurt Dan should do some time but I don't think they should necessarily spend most of their life in prison.

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i also think, pending the results of a civil suit, it could be better for Dan for his assaulters to do less time so that they could get to restitution quicker.

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He won't get restitution from them. They'll all go into personal bankruptcy (which will be crippling for them, but he won't get money for the likely medical care he'll need). Outside of maybe Dellatorre, I don't think these guys are likely to have much in the way of personal assets. They are all pretty much flow or on small brands. I'm sure any lawyer the family retains will be looking at bigger companies they could potentially link to being liable (I'm looking at you Tony Vitello and Thrasher). They aren't getting a payday off of these GX1000 guys.

Granted, personal bankruptcy should be a fairly agreeable lifestyle for a non pro skateboarder living in SF, likely with 7 other roommates. You could almost say it’s a lateral move

[doyle]

New fundraiser - https://gogetfunding.com/jessevieiralegalfees/

"In addition, I would like to thank those that attempted to contributed on gofundme.com. Unfortunately, that platform didn't work out; people who contributed there are getting their money refunded. Thank you again."

[Still Tippin]

New fundraiser - https://gogetfunding.com/jessevieiralegalfees/

"In addition, I would like to thank those that attempted to contributed on gofundme.com. Unfortunately, that platform didn't work out; people who contributed there are getting their money refunded. Thank you again."

SLAP, do ya thang

[Abyss1]

New fundraiser - https://gogetfunding.com/jessevieiralegalfees/

"In addition, I would like to thank those that attempted to contributed on gofundme.com. Unfortunately, that platform didn't work out; people who contributed there are getting their money refunded. Thank you again."

this one started by his GF...you pals think she'll stick by him if he looses and serves time

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New fundraiser - https://gogetfunding.com/jessevieiralegalfees/

"In addition, I would like to thank those that attempted to contributed on gofundme.com. Unfortunately, that platform didn't work out; people who contributed there are getting their money refunded. Thank you again."

"PPS.: nothing blatantly shady as fuck about that disclaimer, please move on"

[shit_for_brains]

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New fundraiser - https://gogetfunding.com/jessevieiralegalfees/

"In addition, I would like to thank those that attempted to contributed on gofundme.com. Unfortunately, that platform didn't work out; people who contributed there are getting their money refunded. Thank you again."

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this one started by his GF...you pals think she'll stick by him if he looses and serves time

The gofundme was also started by her. She also says "please don't use paypal" because they'd probably stop payment on this subject too. The smart thing would be to wait on charitable donations until you can direct people to JPay because he's not getting out of this.

[chipped tail]

[feedmeseymour]

yeah I don’t think any amount of money is gonna help this kid. Unless he hires Johnny cochran to do the Wookie defense.

[mattchew]

Anyone else wonder if the Lennie Kirk rail is cursed?
Who else has skated it and what bad thing has happened to them?

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yeah I don’t think any amount of money is gonna help this kid. Unless he hires Johnny cochran to do the Wookie defense.

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Anyone else wonder if the Lennie Kirk rail is cursed?
Who else has skated it and what bad thing has happened to them?

bam margera. enough said.

[everythingisgreat]

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Anyone else wonder if the Lennie Kirk rail is cursed?
Who else has skated it and what bad thing has happened to them?

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bam margera. enough said.

Man he landed that wonky as hell

[kookshit]

all proceeds go to Dan Jansen's gofundme. PM me.

[ArtVandelay]

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New fundraiser - https://gogetfunding.com/jessevieiralegalfees/

"In addition, I would like to thank those that attempted to contributed on gofundme.com. Unfortunately, that platform didn't work out; people who contributed there are getting their money refunded. Thank you again."

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this one started by his GF...you pals think she'll stick by him if he looses and serves time

Awwww why’d you do that lady!? 

[Hevonen]

New fundraiser - https://gogetfunding.com/jessevieiralegalfees/

"In addition, I would like to thank those that attempted to contributed on gofundme.com. Unfortunately, that platform didn't work out; people who contributed there are getting their money refunded. Thank you again."

''Jesse has been involved in an unfortunate incident, and while the situation is horrible for more than just himself, those of us who love and care about Jesse are here to do what we can to provide that Jesse is cared for.''

I have no problem with trying to get a good lawyer for yourself, and I don't even have much of a problem asking for donations for it since it can make a huge difference on whether you get a reasonable sentence or spend the rest of your life in prison. But at least fucking acknowledge that the situation is quite a lot more horrible to the guy who lost half his head and who might have to spend the rest of what's left of his life relearning the most basic skills like walking and talking.

[Dad Muska]

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Earlier on this thread some person actually said that it wasn’t Jesse that knocked Dan out, it was the ground he hit that done it. I was genuinely in a state of disbelief when I read that. No matter what any of these  hardcore “core” skate rats say,  there is no way out of this for Jesse, he will rightfully go to prison for the vicious assault he committed.

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Even worse was someone saying it was the guards fault for not being able to take a punch and falling wrong. Those people are the ones that are being lambasted for supporting him.

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"Your honor, my client did not murder this man - he simply pushed him off of a 12 story building. Your beef is with the concrete below it, not with him."

[BacksideWallride]

Im sorry, but throwing around accusations abundantly doesn't produce validity. Jesse did not use his board, nobody did. Dan, the security guard, never entered a coma. Additionally, he was not struck by anyone or anything while down. There are two sides to every story people. Everyone feels bad about the condition Dan is now in. May he heal with ease.

Video shows him lying motionless on his back and one of those kooks runs up and punches his unconscious face. Also he fell on the back of his head, but the truck dent is in the FRONT of his head. Fuck a security guard but that video is cut and dry... He didn't deserve that. They skate all around him like a swarm, move the gates, and all pounce him. Watch it again and I'm sure SF skaters are happy one of their most iconic spots thats been skated for over 20 years is going to be an instant bust forever now.

[geturfaxstraight]

As someone who has seen the HD footage and knows the details of the case I can tell you that is not what happened.

[mattchew]

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Anyone else wonder if the Lennie Kirk rail is cursed?
Who else has skated it and what bad thing has happened to them?

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bam margera. enough said.

Wow. Rail fully on cursed immediately rendering all skaters of luck.

Any others hit it?

[tim pools beanie]

He did get punched while he was on the ground the first time. Might have been Delatorre or someone who initially traded blows then when security got up, he went into the mob and [allegedly] was hit unconscious w/ skateboard by Jesse Viera.
If it's the only way to receive justice, can Slap do a GoFundMe to send a bounty hunter overseas? Delatorre is detoxing in Turkish luxury, you know who will never detox again? The security guard.

[BacksideWallride]

As someone who has seen the HD footage and knows the details of the case I can tell you that is not what happened.

Fair enough, the security footage is grainy but can I ask you does it exonerate Jesse? Or is it the footage his lawyer has already mentioned? Is it from a phone or from Garshell's camera?

[Nancy Chin The Manicurist]

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Anyone else wonder if the Lennie Kirk rail is cursed?
Who else has skated it and what bad thing has happened to them?

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bam margera. enough said.

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Wow. Rail fully on cursed immediately rendering all skaters of luck.

Any others hit it?

Jeremy Reeves.

Make of that what you will.

[winecrab]

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Im sorry, but throwing around accusations abundantly doesn't produce validity. Jesse did not use his board, nobody did. Dan, the security guard, never entered a coma. Additionally, he was not struck by anyone or anything while down. There are two sides to every story people. Everyone feels bad about the condition Dan is now in. May he heal with ease.

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Video shows him lying motionless on his back and one of those kooks runs up and punches his unconscious face. Also he fell on the back of his head, but the truck dent is in the FRONT of his head. Fuck a security guard but that video is cut and dry... He didn't deserve that. They skate all around him like a swarm, move the gates, and all pounce him. Watch it again and I'm sure SF skaters are happy one of their most iconic spots thats been skated for over 20 years is going to be an instant bust forever now.

Do you live in a cartoon world where peoples heads are made out of empty beer cans? The doctors removed part of his skull to relieve the swelling of his brain. Did I miss something? Why is everyone saying he got his head caved in by a skateboard?

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Im sorry, but throwing around accusations abundantly doesn't produce validity. Jesse did not use his board, nobody did. Dan, the security guard, never entered a coma. Additionally, he was not struck by anyone or anything while down. There are two sides to every story people. Everyone feels bad about the condition Dan is now in. May he heal with ease.

The footage seems pretty clear that someone hit him the first time he was knocked down. The second time he was down it looks like someone was grabbing their board which was laying next to him which some people might think looks like he is being hit again.

[Painted Baby]

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Im sorry, but throwing around accusations abundantly doesn't produce validity. Jesse did not use his board, nobody did. Dan, the security guard, never entered a coma. Additionally, he was not struck by anyone or anything while down. There are two sides to every story people. Everyone feels bad about the condition Dan is now in. May he heal with ease.

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Video shows him lying motionless on his back and one of those kooks runs up and punches his unconscious face. Also he fell on the back of his head, but the truck dent is in the FRONT of his head. Fuck a security guard but that video is cut and dry... He didn't deserve that. They skate all around him like a swarm, move the gates, and all pounce him. Watch it again and I'm sure SF skaters are happy one of their most iconic spots thats been skated for over 20 years is going to be an instant bust forever now.

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Do you live in a cartoon world where peoples heads are made out of empty beer cans? The doctors removed part of his skull to relieve the swelling of his brain. Did I miss something? Why is everyone saying he got his head caved in by a skateboard?

Juicy details die hard unfortunately.

[Allen.]

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Im sorry, but throwing around accusations abundantly doesn't produce validity. Jesse did not use his board, nobody did. Dan, the security guard, never entered a coma. Additionally, he was not struck by anyone or anything while down. There are two sides to every story people. Everyone feels bad about the condition Dan is now in. May he heal with ease.

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Video shows him lying motionless on his back and one of those kooks runs up and punches his unconscious face. Also he fell on the back of his head, but the truck dent is in the FRONT of his head. Fuck a security guard but that video is cut and dry... He didn't deserve that. They skate all around him like a swarm, move the gates, and all pounce him. Watch it again and I'm sure SF skaters are happy one of their most iconic spots thats been skated for over 20 years is going to be an instant bust forever now.

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Do you live in a cartoon world where peoples heads are made out of empty beer cans? The doctors removed part of his skull to relieve the swelling of his brain. Did I miss something? Why is everyone saying he got his head caved in by a skateboard?

Do you live in a cartoon world where skateboarders have any sort of long term memory/reading comprehension? Of course dude would think that. That's skateboarder logic. "Everyone" is saying "he got his head caved in by a skateboard because without that skateboard he wouldn't have had that piece of skull removed. Cause and effect.

To those seriously saying the ground did the damage - note that the security camera footage shows the security guard falls onto his back twice. The first time he gets up and the second time he doesn't. If the ground did most of the damage, as you're asserting, you would imagine that would be where the brain swelled the most and that would be the area of the skull that the doctors would need to remove to prevent more damage.

The punches and attacks from whoever hit him, not necessarily/only Viera skateboarders affiliated with the GX1000 'brand (i.e. crew/videos/company/etc)', come from his left side - the side where his skull was removed - culminating in a hit from a skateboard that knocks him out cold and changed his life forever put dude in a coma for weeks and needed to learn how to talk and walk again.

Fuck those dudes. Straight up.

[Weighed Diss Arm Hoe]

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Im sorry, but throwing around accusations abundantly doesn't produce validity. Jesse did not use his board, nobody did. Dan, the security guard, never entered a coma. Additionally, he was not struck by anyone or anything while down. There are two sides to every story people. Everyone feels bad about the condition Dan is now in. May he heal with ease.

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Video shows him lying motionless on his back and one of those kooks runs up and punches his unconscious face. Also he fell on the back of his head, but the truck dent is in the FRONT of his head. Fuck a security guard but that video is cut and dry... He didn't deserve that. They skate all around him like a swarm, move the gates, and all pounce him. Watch it again and I'm sure SF skaters are happy one of their most iconic spots thats been skated for over 20 years is going to be an instant bust forever now.

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Do you live in a cartoon world where peoples heads are made out of empty beer cans? The doctors removed part of his skull to relieve the swelling of his brain. Did I miss something? Why is everyone saying he got his head caved in by a skateboard?

Because most of the people that haven't shut up about this on this thread are actual fucking idiots .