Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock

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Jesse made a terrible mistake but this situation seems more like a horrible accident rather then the attempted murder many of you are making it out to seem. I don't think there was any intent from the gx crew to put this guy in a coma or even physically harm him for that matter. And I honestly doubt the guard was fearing for his life during the altercation as I'm sure he's been in that exact situation many times before. Either way, absolutely horrible situation all around and I hope he'll regain some function and be able to continue living life.

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lmao what the fuck

Little did we know Dan was actually born with four brains

[GAY]

Did you know that if you, say, attack somebody and punch them in the face or hit them with a weapon and they fall down and die, you can get into trouble even if you didn't hit them with the explicit intent to kill them?
Oh, unfair world!

[Pretender]

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Jesse made a terrible mistake but this situation seems more like a horrible accident rather then the attempted murder many of you are making it out to seem. I don't think there was any intent from the gx crew to put this guy in a coma or even physically harm him for that matter. And I honestly doubt the guard was fearing for his life during the altercation as I'm sure he's been in that exact situation many times before. Either way, absolutely horrible situation all around and I hope he'll regain some function and be able to continue living life.

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lmao what the fuck

Bad wording on my part. I was more referring to the situation of dealing with a group of skaters rather than the actual assault. That's a pretty popular spot so I assumed he had interacted with skaters before but I don't know

Did you know that if you, say, attack somebody and punch them in the face or hit them with a weapon and they fall down and die, you can get into trouble even if you didn't hit them with the explicit intent to kill them?
Oh, unfair world!

I never said Jesse should not be held responsible, his actions ruined a mans life and he should go to jail. But the lack of explicit of intent does impact how I perceive him as a person. He's a guy who made a terrible mistake and will have to live with it for the rest of his life, but I don't think he's irredeemable. I feel sympathy for him the same way I do for Cory Kennedy, and I don't think that's unreasonable but I understand why people would feel the other way.

[mtvic]

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Jesse made a terrible mistake but this situation seems more like a horrible accident rather then the attempted murder many of you are making it out to seem. I don't think there was any intent from the gx crew to put this guy in a coma or even physically harm him for that matter. And I honestly doubt the guard was fearing for his life during the altercation as I'm sure he's been in that exact situation many times before. Either way, absolutely horrible situation all around and I hope he'll regain some function and be able to continue living life.

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lmao what the fuck

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Bad wording on my part. I was more referring to the situation of dealing with a group of skaters rather than the actual assault. That's a pretty popular spot so I assumed he had interacted with skaters before but I don't know

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Did you know that if you, say, attack somebody and punch them in the face or hit them with a weapon and they fall down and die, you can get into trouble even if you didn't hit them with the explicit intent to kill them?
Oh, unfair world!

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I never said Jesse should not be held responsible, his actions ruined a mans life and he should go to jail. But the lack of explicit of intent does impact how I perceive him as a person. He's a guy who made a terrible mistake and will have to live with it for the rest of his life, but I don't think he's irredeemable. I feel sympathy for him the same way I do for Cory Kennedy, and I don't think that's unreasonable but I understand why people would feel the other way.

Quite logical in my opinion. This thread has turned into an echo chamber, anything or anyone who says anything contrary to the narrative of “Jesse and gx are pieces of shit and should rot for making a poor guy almost dead” are instantly bombarded with replies about how they should be ashamed for thinking anything to the contrary of the narrative. 

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did you really not see the Brian Delatorre post a page back?

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I guess I'm just not enough of a fan to have read it - I saw "insta-detox" and figured that was the end of it. Doesn't exactly look like the lap of luxury, but I'm sure it's better than a cell.

No one is suggesting he is living a life of luxury, just that it’s shady as fuck to leave the country after your picture shows up on a suspects wanted flyer.

[Weighed Diss Arm Hoe]

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Jesse made a terrible mistake but this situation seems more like a horrible accident rather then the attempted murder many of you are making it out to seem. I don't think there was any intent from the gx crew to put this guy in a coma or even physically harm him for that matter. And I honestly doubt the guard was fearing for his life during the altercation as I'm sure he's been in that exact situation many times before. Either way, absolutely horrible situation all around and I hope he'll regain some function and be able to continue living life.

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lmao what the fuck

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Bad wording on my part. I was more referring to the situation of dealing with a group of skaters rather than the actual assault. That's a pretty popular spot so I assumed he had interacted with skaters before but I don't know

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Did you know that if you, say, attack somebody and punch them in the face or hit them with a weapon and they fall down and die, you can get into trouble even if you didn't hit them with the explicit intent to kill them?
Oh, unfair world!

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I never said Jesse should not be held responsible, his actions ruined a mans life and he should go to jail. But the lack of explicit of intent does impact how I perceive him as a person. He's a guy who made a terrible mistake and will have to live with it for the rest of his life, but I don't think he's irredeemable. I feel sympathy for him the same way I do for Cory Kennedy, and I don't think that's unreasonable but I understand why people would feel the other way.

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Quite logical in my opinion. This thread has turned into an echo chamber, anything or anyone who says anything contrary to the narrative of “Jesse and gx are pieces of shit and should rot for making a poor guy almost dead” are instantly bombarded with replies about how they should be ashamed for thinking anything to the contrary of the narrative.

Exactly . Bunch a plebs on keyboards .

[feedmeseymour]

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Did he disable comments on that? Softie.

it wasn’t disabled at first. Someone must have ruffled his feathers, I figured a graffiti dude would enjoy the controversy he’d stir up with that, but alas soft.

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There is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things.

Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team.

What a shitty country we live in.

[Bitter]

Description from the GoFundMe...

 Jesse has been involved in an unfortunate incident and while the situation is horrible for more than just himself, those of us who love and care about Jesse are here to do we can to provide that Jesse is cared for. We ask for assistance in the cost of legal fees. We feel it is important that Jesse has proper legal representation as he proceeds through the trial phase of his case. Jesse is currently being represented by Douglas Rappaport, a top criminal defense lawyer, and we hope to ensure that Jesse continues to be represented by him, but we need your help. Jesse is a kind, humble, gentle, passionate man. He has a huge heart and cares so much about his friends and family. This is a horrible time for so many but we ask that everyone come together and show support for Jesse as he moves through this difficult time. Anything and everything is appreciated. We hope that truth and justice will prevail.

[cheetahsheets]

Did you know that if you, say, attack somebody and punch them in the face or hit them with a weapon and they fall down and die, you can get into trouble even if you didn't hit them with the explicit intent to kill them?
Oh, unfair world!

Like things involving bricks maybe?

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Did he disable comments on that? Softie.

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it wasn’t disabled at first. Someone must have ruffled his feathers, I figured a graffiti dude would enjoy the controversy he’d stir up with that, but alas soft.

Yeah, guess he wasn't down for people to comment. He's a legit graffiti writer though. He's also involved with everyones favorite brand, Pizza Skateboards.

[feedmeseymour]

^oh don’t get me wrong I’m a fan of his stuff, and vts stuff. He’s done some cool shit for lurkhard. I just saw that post earlier and figured some people here might wanna chime in over there.

[Zurg]

i dont think its that weird that delatorre went to turkey. seems like hes on a regular skate trip, not trying to flee the country to escape a crime. he may have even spoken to the cops already, who knows

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Did he disable comments on that? Softie.

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it wasn’t disabled at first. Someone must have ruffled his feathers, I figured a graffiti dude would enjoy the controversy he’d stir up with that, but alas soft.

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Yeah, guess he wasn't down for people to comment. He's a legit graffiti writer though. He's also involved with everyones favorite brand, Pizza Skateboards.

I saw before he disabled them. He was arguing with people and telling them to fuck off back to message boards.

[TheLurper]

What is Jesse's defense?

Did we ever see the video footage that is supposed to exonerate him?

[Gary Coleman]

There is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things.

Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team.

What a shitty country we live in.

Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense.  If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get.

Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.

[Rocko]

i dont think its that weird that delatorre went to turkey. seems like hes on a regular skate trip, not trying to flee the country to escape a crime. he may have even spoken to the cops already, who knows

Not defending Dela or anything either but he also had an art show or something in Japan a couple weeks ago

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There is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things.

Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team.

What a shitty country we live in.

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Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense.  If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get.

Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.

Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council.

By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.

[Roast beef]

Earlier on this thread some person actually said that it wasn’t Jesse that knocked Dan out, it was the ground he hit that done it. I was genuinely in a state of disbelief when I read that. No matter what any of these  hardcore “core” skate rats say,  there is no way out of this for Jesse, he will rightfully go to prison for the vicious assault he committed.

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Earlier on this thread some person actually said that it wasn’t Jesse that knocked Dan out, it was the ground he hit that done it. I was genuinely in a state of disbelief when I read that. No matter what any of these  hardcore “core” skate rats say,  there is no way out of this for Jesse, he will rightfully go to prison for the vicious assault he committed.

Even worse was someone saying it was the guards fault for not being able to take a punch and falling wrong. Those people are the ones that are being lambasted for supporting him.

[Tyroneshoelaces]

Jesse can fuck off and rot.  what a pussy.

[Painted Baby]

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There is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things.

Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team.

What a shitty country we live in.

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Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense.  If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get.

Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.

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Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council.

By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.

I do think it's fair to keep in mind that the prosecution would have unlimited resources to get the maximum possible penalty and with a public defender it's sort of a get what ya get situation. If Jesse can't pay his lawyer he'll likely wind up going the PD route. The Gofundme didn't bug because having equally matched legal teams can mean the difference between years and decades in jail. Whoever hurt Dan should do some time but I don't think they should necessarily spend most of their life in prison.

[Allen.]

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Earlier on this thread some person actually said that it wasn’t Jesse that knocked Dan out, it was the ground he hit that done it. I was genuinely in a state of disbelief when I read that. No matter what any of these  hardcore “core” skate rats say,  there is no way out of this for Jesse, he will rightfully go to prison for the vicious assault he committed.

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Even worse was someone saying it was the guards fault for not being able to take a punch and falling wrong. Those people are the ones that are being lambasted for supporting him.

"Your honor, my client did not murder this man - he simply pushed him off of a 12 story building. Your beef is with the concrete below it, not with him."

[SneakySecrets]

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i dont think its that weird that delatorre went to turkey. seems like hes on a regular skate trip, not trying to flee the country to escape a crime. he may have even spoken to the cops already, who knows

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Not defending Dela or anything either but he also had an art show or something in Japan a couple weeks ago

It’s a little silly to think that guy is on the run.  I’m sure he’s no Mensa candidate, but from what I gather, people on the run from the law tend to not broadcast their location to the world via Facebook.

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There is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things.

Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team.

What a shitty country we live in.

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Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense.  If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get.

Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.

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Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council.

By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.

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I do think it's fair to keep in mind that the prosecution would have unlimited resources to get the maximum possible penalty and with a public defender it's sort of a get what ya get situation. If Jesse can't pay his lawyer he'll likely wind up going the PD route. The Gofundme didn't bug because having equally matched legal teams can mean the difference between years and decades in jail. Whoever hurt Dan should do some time but I don't think they should necessarily spend most of their life in prison.

i also think, pending the results of a civil suit, it could be better for Dan for his assaulters to do less time so that they could get to restitution quicker. 

[TITANIUM NIPPLES]

I heard that Jesse is actually a black belt and his fists were registered as deadly weapons.
He failed to alert the security guard to this fact.
Most lawyers will agree that this will result in a death penalty conviction.

Being pro-life, I take no pleasure in reporting this.

[DannyDee]

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There is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things.

Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team.

What a shitty country we live in.

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Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense.  If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get.

Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.

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Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council.

By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.

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I do think it's fair to keep in mind that the prosecution would have unlimited resources to get the maximum possible penalty and with a public defender it's sort of a get what ya get situation. If Jesse can't pay his lawyer he'll likely wind up going the PD route. The Gofundme didn't bug because having equally matched legal teams can mean the difference between years and decades in jail. Whoever hurt Dan should do some time but I don't think they should necessarily spend most of their life in prison.

Municipal and State DA's don't have unlimited funds. He's not getting tried by the Federal government.

[Painted Baby]

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There is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things.

Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team.

What a shitty country we live in.

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Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense.  If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get.

Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.

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Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council.

By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.

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I do think it's fair to keep in mind that the prosecution would have unlimited resources to get the maximum possible penalty and with a public defender it's sort of a get what ya get situation. If Jesse can't pay his lawyer he'll likely wind up going the PD route. The Gofundme didn't bug because having equally matched legal teams can mean the difference between years and decades in jail. Whoever hurt Dan should do some time but I don't think they should necessarily spend most of their life in prison.

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Municipal and State DA's don't have unlimited funds. He's not getting tried by the Federal government.

They can still outspend the average citizen by a large margin. You're right it may not be unlimited but it could be plenty based on how engaged the public is with the story. If they wanna fuck this kid up to make an example they absolutely could.

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There is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things.

Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team.

What a shitty country we live in.

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Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense.  If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get.

Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.

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Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council.

By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.

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I do think it's fair to keep in mind that the prosecution would have unlimited resources to get the maximum possible penalty and with a public defender it's sort of a get what ya get situation. If Jesse can't pay his lawyer he'll likely wind up going the PD route. The Gofundme didn't bug because having equally matched legal teams can mean the difference between years and decades in jail. Whoever hurt Dan should do some time but I don't think they should necessarily spend most of their life in prison.

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i also think, pending the results of a civil suit, it could be better for Dan for his assaulters to do less time so that they could get to restitution quicker.

He won't get restitution from them. They'll all go into personal bankruptcy (which will be crippling for them, but he won't get money for the likely medical care he'll need). Outside of maybe Dellatorre, I don't think these guys are likely to have much in the way of personal assets. They are all pretty much flow or on small brands. I'm sure any lawyer the family retains will be looking at bigger companies they could potentially link to being liable (I'm looking at you Tony Vitello and Thrasher). They aren't getting a payday off of these GX1000 guys.

[Dorknerd]

Semi-OT but if anyone doesn't wanna watch the GX vid anymore because of all this shit, the Stay Awaysted video is pretty much the same exact thing

The guys roof at the start. 18.30...I stopped watching then. Seems like the same kind of cunts without so many hill rollaways, and cautious editing perchance?