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Earlier on this thread some person actually said that it wasn’t Jesse that knocked Dan out, it was the ground he hit that done it. I was genuinely in a state of disbelief when I read that. No matter what any of these hardcore “core” skate rats say, there is no way out of this for Jesse, he will rightfully go to prison for the vicious assault he committed.
Quote from: Gary Coleman on January 30, 2019, 06:42:13 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 05:42:21 PMExpand QuoteThere is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things. Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team. What a shitty country we live in.[close]Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense. If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get. Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.[close]Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council. By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.
Quote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 05:42:21 PMExpand QuoteThere is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things. Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team. What a shitty country we live in.[close]Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense. If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get. Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.[close]
There is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things. Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team. What a shitty country we live in.[close]
them cats are out getting mashed up to jungle, he's out mashing up jungle cats. it's just not gonna work.
Quote from: Roast beef on January 30, 2019, 06:54:17 PMExpand QuoteEarlier on this thread some person actually said that it wasn’t Jesse that knocked Dan out, it was the ground he hit that done it. I was genuinely in a state of disbelief when I read that. No matter what any of these hardcore “core” skate rats say, there is no way out of this for Jesse, he will rightfully go to prison for the vicious assault he committed.[close]Even worse was someone saying it was the guards fault for not being able to take a punch and falling wrong. Those people are the ones that are being lambasted for supporting him.
Earlier on this thread some person actually said that it wasn’t Jesse that knocked Dan out, it was the ground he hit that done it. I was genuinely in a state of disbelief when I read that. No matter what any of these hardcore “core” skate rats say, there is no way out of this for Jesse, he will rightfully go to prison for the vicious assault he committed.[close]
For someone w.no signature ur awfully hostile, & that is why I do this
Quote from: Zurg on January 30, 2019, 06:12:14 PMExpand Quotei dont think its that weird that delatorre went to turkey. seems like hes on a regular skate trip, not trying to flee the country to escape a crime. he may have even spoken to the cops already, who knows[close]Not defending Dela or anything either but he also had an art show or something in Japan a couple weeks ago
i dont think its that weird that delatorre went to turkey. seems like hes on a regular skate trip, not trying to flee the country to escape a crime. he may have even spoken to the cops already, who knows[close]
Quote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 06:52:10 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Gary Coleman on January 30, 2019, 06:42:13 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 05:42:21 PMExpand QuoteThere is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things. Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team. What a shitty country we live in.[close]Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense. If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get. Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.[close]Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council. By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.[close]I do think it's fair to keep in mind that the prosecution would have unlimited resources to get the maximum possible penalty and with a public defender it's sort of a get what ya get situation. If Jesse can't pay his lawyer he'll likely wind up going the PD route. The Gofundme didn't bug because having equally matched legal teams can mean the difference between years and decades in jail. Whoever hurt Dan should do some time but I don't think they should necessarily spend most of their life in prison.
Quote from: Gary Coleman on January 30, 2019, 06:42:13 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 05:42:21 PMExpand QuoteThere is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things. Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team. What a shitty country we live in.[close]Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense. If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get. Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.[close]Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council. By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.[close]
Quote from: jakeumms on January 30, 2019, 07:21:51 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 06:52:10 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Gary Coleman on January 30, 2019, 06:42:13 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 05:42:21 PMExpand QuoteThere is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things. Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team. What a shitty country we live in.[close]Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense. If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get. Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.[close]Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council. By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.[close]I do think it's fair to keep in mind that the prosecution would have unlimited resources to get the maximum possible penalty and with a public defender it's sort of a get what ya get situation. If Jesse can't pay his lawyer he'll likely wind up going the PD route. The Gofundme didn't bug because having equally matched legal teams can mean the difference between years and decades in jail. Whoever hurt Dan should do some time but I don't think they should necessarily spend most of their life in prison.[close]Municipal and State DA's don't have unlimited funds. He's not getting tried by the Federal government.
Quote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 06:52:10 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Gary Coleman on January 30, 2019, 06:42:13 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 05:42:21 PMExpand QuoteThere is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things. Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team. What a shitty country we live in.[close]Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense. If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get. Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.[close]Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council. By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.[close]I do think it's fair to keep in mind that the prosecution would have unlimited resources to get the maximum possible penalty and with a public defender it's sort of a get what ya get situation. If Jesse can't pay his lawyer he'll likely wind up going the PD route. The Gofundme didn't bug because having equally matched legal teams can mean the difference between years and decades in jail. Whoever hurt Dan should do some time but I don't think they should necessarily spend most of their life in prison.[close]
Quote from: jakeumms on January 30, 2019, 07:21:51 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 06:52:10 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Gary Coleman on January 30, 2019, 06:42:13 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 05:42:21 PMExpand QuoteThere is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things. Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team. What a shitty country we live in.[close]Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense. If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get. Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.[close]Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council. By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.[close]I do think it's fair to keep in mind that the prosecution would have unlimited resources to get the maximum possible penalty and with a public defender it's sort of a get what ya get situation. If Jesse can't pay his lawyer he'll likely wind up going the PD route. The Gofundme didn't bug because having equally matched legal teams can mean the difference between years and decades in jail. Whoever hurt Dan should do some time but I don't think they should necessarily spend most of their life in prison.[close]i also think, pending the results of a civil suit, it could be better for Dan for his assaulters to do less time so that they could get to restitution quicker.
Semi-OT but if anyone doesn't wanna watch the GX vid anymore because of all this shit, the Stay Awaysted video is pretty much the same exact thing
Quote from: planman on January 30, 2019, 10:50:25 AMExpand QuoteSemi-OT but if anyone doesn't wanna watch the GX vid anymore because of all this shit, the Stay Awaysted video is pretty much the same exact thing[close]The guys roof at the start. 18.30...I stopped watching then. Seems like the same kind of cunts without so many hill rollaways, and cautious editing perchance?
Semi-OT but if anyone doesn't wanna watch the GX vid anymore because of all this shit, the Stay Awaysted video is pretty much the same exact thing[close]
Quote from: Rocko on January 30, 2019, 06:46:48 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Zurg on January 30, 2019, 06:12:14 PMExpand Quotei dont think its that weird that delatorre went to turkey. seems like hes on a regular skate trip, not trying to flee the country to escape a crime. he may have even spoken to the cops already, who knows[close]Not defending Dela or anything either but he also had an art show or something in Japan a couple weeks ago[close]It’s a little silly to think that guy is on the run. I’m sure he’s no Mensa candidate, but from what I gather, people on the run from the law tend to not broadcast their location to the world via Facebook.
Quote from: Zurg on January 30, 2019, 06:12:14 PMExpand Quotei dont think its that weird that delatorre went to turkey. seems like hes on a regular skate trip, not trying to flee the country to escape a crime. he may have even spoken to the cops already, who knows[close]Not defending Dela or anything either but he also had an art show or something in Japan a couple weeks ago[close]
Did you know that if you, say, attack somebody and punch them in the face or hit them with a weapon and they fall down and die, you can get into trouble even if you didn't hit them with the explicit intent to kill them?Oh, unfair world!
Quote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 08:13:59 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: jakeumms on January 30, 2019, 07:21:51 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 06:52:10 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Gary Coleman on January 30, 2019, 06:42:13 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 05:42:21 PMExpand QuoteThere is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things. Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team. What a shitty country we live in.[close]Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense. If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get. Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.[close]Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council. By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.[close]I do think it's fair to keep in mind that the prosecution would have unlimited resources to get the maximum possible penalty and with a public defender it's sort of a get what ya get situation. If Jesse can't pay his lawyer he'll likely wind up going the PD route. The Gofundme didn't bug because having equally matched legal teams can mean the difference between years and decades in jail. Whoever hurt Dan should do some time but I don't think they should necessarily spend most of their life in prison.[close]i also think, pending the results of a civil suit, it could be better for Dan for his assaulters to do less time so that they could get to restitution quicker. [close]He won't get restitution from them. They'll all go into personal bankruptcy (which will be crippling for them, but he won't get money for the likely medical care he'll need). Outside of maybe Dellatorre, I don't think these guys are likely to have much in the way of personal assets. They are all pretty much flow or on small brands. I'm sure any lawyer the family retains will be looking at bigger companies they could potentially link to being liable (I'm looking at you Tony Vitello and Thrasher). They aren't getting a payday off of these GX1000 guys.
Quote from: jakeumms on January 30, 2019, 07:21:51 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 06:52:10 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: Gary Coleman on January 30, 2019, 06:42:13 PMExpand QuoteQuote from: nopes on January 30, 2019, 05:42:21 PMExpand QuoteThere is a difference between supporting jesse and suggesting he did nothing wrong or that it’s somehow the security guards fault for not being able to take a punch. People are only going after the defenders saying ridiculous things. Outside of being written in poor taste I dont have a problem with him having a gofundme for legal fees. Regardless of what ultimately happened that day everyone deserves a good defense and that shit don’t come cheap. Dan and his family are fucked up forever and I hope the guys that did it are held responsible but it doesn’t mean any of the defendants should be railroaded simply because they can’t afford a good legal team. What a shitty country we live in.[close]Railroaded implies that he could get a raw deal due to a incompetent defense. If indeed he’s guilty of what looks to be a completely unjustified and brutal assault, it’s a pretty crazy assertion that he could be railroaded by the justice system. In that case, he’s pretty deserving of the jail time he’d likely get. Only way to get railroaded on trial where some guy essentially lost his life, is if the prosecution plays dirty, which it doesn’t look like they’re going to have to here considering there’s conclusive evidence of a brutal assault.[close]Railroading is the extreme and I shouldn’t have said that but my point still stands that getting the best representation isn’t cheap and it sucks when someone could end up doing more time simply because they couldn’t afford better council. By no means do I think these guys should get off with little consequence and there is a huge middle ground between getting off lightly and going to prison for a super long time.[close]I do think it's fair to keep in mind that the prosecution would have unlimited resources to get the maximum possible penalty and with a public defender it's sort of a get what ya get situation. If Jesse can't pay his lawyer he'll likely wind up going the PD route. The Gofundme didn't bug because having equally matched legal teams can mean the difference between years and decades in jail. Whoever hurt Dan should do some time but I don't think they should necessarily spend most of their life in prison.[close]i also think, pending the results of a civil suit, it could be better for Dan for his assaulters to do less time so that they could get to restitution quicker. [close]
New fundraiser - https://gogetfunding.com/jessevieiralegalfees/"In addition, I would like to thank those that attempted to contributed on gofundme.com. Unfortunately, that platform didn't work out; people who contributed there are getting their money refunded. Thank you again."
Quote from: doyle on January 31, 2019, 12:02:55 PMExpand QuoteNew fundraiser - https://gogetfunding.com/jessevieiralegalfees/"In addition, I would like to thank those that attempted to contributed on gofundme.com. Unfortunately, that platform didn't work out; people who contributed there are getting their money refunded. Thank you again."[close]this one started by his GF...you pals think she'll stick by him if he looses and serves time
New fundraiser - https://gogetfunding.com/jessevieiralegalfees/"In addition, I would like to thank those that attempted to contributed on gofundme.com. Unfortunately, that platform didn't work out; people who contributed there are getting their money refunded. Thank you again."[close]
yeah I don’t think any amount of money is gonna help this kid. Unless he hires Johnny cochran to do the Wookie defense.
Anyone else wonder if the Lennie Kirk rail is cursed?Who else has skated it and what bad thing has happened to them?
Quote from: mattchew on January 31, 2019, 01:53:40 PMExpand QuoteAnyone else wonder if the Lennie Kirk rail is cursed?Who else has skated it and what bad thing has happened to them?[close]bam margera. enough said.
Anyone else wonder if the Lennie Kirk rail is cursed?Who else has skated it and what bad thing has happened to them?[close]