Security guard beaten at SF Black Rock

[Googan Christmas]

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If Jesse did hit that guard then fuck him. If he didn't, then I hope the truth is revealed soon.

This whole shit storm is a fucking embarrassment. Whether or not the guard was assaulted, if someone tells you to leave then fucking leave. You're on private property and there are guards there for a reason.

When I'm asked not to skate on property or told to leave, I do so without hesitation.

Honestly I'm sick of all this "I'm gonna skate this fuck you homeowner" mentality. Just be fucking respectful. You wouldn't let a BMXer ride on your fucking house would you?

God fucking dammit.

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You don’t even try to get a few more tries? Always try to sweet talk them into one or two more goes.

I always though the few more tries thing appropriate if you like a pro, filming, and it’s like your job, but now you have every idiot asking for a few more tries I’m sure, it’s prolly really annoying.  Also I usually don’t really want to hang out with a security guard and chat about trying my skateboard trick a few more times, again different if you are filming for something.

I did find and watch that video, not sure who’s who, but that’s some pack mentality pussy bullshit. If we were talkin 16 year olds, that’s one thing, but that security guard was a big soft dude, versus a bunch of mid twenty dudes. Come on. That ain’t cool at all. Bad look for skateboarding as well, guessing they didn’t make it easier to skate that spot with their actions. 
If he goes to jail, I feel bad for him, everyone makes mistakes, and hindsight’s 20/20, but at 24 you really can’t get involved with group assaults with weapons.

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I've been watching the video over this week. Im starting to feel as though Jesse isnt really the one to blame here, Jesse was protecting his friends, like any good friend would do. Im sure it was a really hectic situation and it literally could have happened to anyone. Jesse is a real one, taking the fall for everyone else involved.

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jessie saw an overpowered, unarmed security guard and hit him over the head with his board.
but if you watch the video enough you'll see what you wanna see

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I see weiner

I see spot run

[Stride]

the san fransisco chronicle piece on ramirez's death states that the vieira trial started this week. however vieira had 9am court dates every day last week except good friday.

ramirez dying after leaving the court room at his friend's trial like that is tragic.

It’s wack that they even mentioned that in that article.

[Crack Whore]

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from r/instantkarma

damn!!! fucked that dude up

[drunkenshredder]

bruh any1 who swing a board a bitch nigga, less a nigga pulled a banger on u den u put u fuckin hands up and fight em u pussy

yall nigga poosy losers

dat kid who hit mans in face with the truck not man enough to take a hit himself

i have no idea what you said

[papo]

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I've been watching the video over this week. Im starting to feel as though Jesse isnt really the one to blame here, Jesse was protecting his friends, like any good friend would do. Im sure it was a really hectic situation and it literally could have happened to anyone. Jesse is a real one, taking the fall for everyone else involved.

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jessie saw an overpowered, unarmed security guard and hit him over the head with his board.
but if you watch the video enough you'll see what you wanna see

This.

Im not surprised at the length some of you morons will go to defend this dipshit.

[ArtVandelay]

So is Jesse V going to the big house or what?

[18forced entry]

https://forums.securityinfowatch.com/forum/on-guard-security-guard-services-discussion/general-discussions-area/7913-skaters-bmx-ers

[breakingthewaves]

I always though the few more tries thing appropriate if you like a pro, filming, and it’s like your job, but now you have every idiot asking for a few more tries I’m sure, it’s prolly really annoying.  Also I usually don’t really want to hang out with a security guard and chat about trying my skateboard trick a few more times, again different if you are filming for something.

i think that filming street videos is important for local scenes; documentation is vital. homie videos define local scenes and give time capsules to appreciate and landmarks to progress from. and in the 90's we never had cameras, but it was important to land the tricks because that said something about the state of local skateboarding. also, everybody has always been asking for one more try, everywhere. i see what you're saying though.

[SneakySecrets]

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bruh any1 who swing a board a bitch nigga, less a nigga pulled a banger on u den u put u fuckin hands up and fight em u pussy

yall nigga poosy losers

dat kid who hit mans in face with the truck not man enough to take a hit himself

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i have no idea what you said

[Merlin]

bruh any1 who swing a board a bitch nigga, less a nigga pulled a banger on u den u put u fuckin hands up and fight em u pussy

yall nigga poosy losers

dat kid who hit mans in face with the truck not man enough to take a hit himself

Can someone please translate this person?

[tkp]

April 22: https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Video-at-Centerpiece-of-Trial-in-Brutal-Attack-on-San-Francisco-Security-Guard-508927031.html

[CHONGO]

bruh any1 who swing a board a bitch nigga, less a nigga pulled a banger on u den u put u fuckin hands up and fight em u pussy

yall nigga poosy losers

dat kid who hit mans in face with the truck not man enough to take a hit himself

FOCUS KOOK

[Skating Around]

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bruh any1 who swing a board a bitch nigga, less a nigga pulled a banger on u den u put u fuckin hands up and fight em u pussy

yall nigga poosy losers

dat kid who hit mans in face with the truck not man enough to take a hit himself

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Can someone please translate this person?

He's Cherokee

[arrbee]

5 days for an assault case seems like a long time. Are there any new details? Either side close to wrapping?

[Get the strap]

5 days for an assault case seems like a long time. Are there any new details? Either side close to wrapping?

Must be complications with the case if 5 days is a long time. Three different charges, each charge could take some time to go through one by one maybe? Or there's problems with the charges and evidence against Jesse and it's difficult to convict him?

I thought there's a charge for an accidental death or accidental permanent damage in a fight, maybe something is going on with that? I don't think he got charged with anything like that...

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bruh any1 who swing a board a bitch nigga, less a nigga pulled a banger on u den u put u fuckin hands up and fight em u pussy

yall nigga poosy losers

dat kid who hit mans in face with the truck not man enough to take a hit himself

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....jockboy

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back den dey call me jockboy but fr fr u also may kno me as PLUR DADDY illiterate

[drunkenshredder]

they might be prolonging the case to make Jesse think he's fucked and take a plea deal. They need to release the tapes from GX. All we are seeing is the security guards side and his story of how he fished. What about Jesse's story and his tapes?

[Complements4U]

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bruh any1 who swing a board a bitch nigga, less a nigga pulled a banger on u den u put u fuckin hands up and fight em u pussy

yall nigga poosy losers

dat kid who hit mans in face with the truck not man enough to take a hit himself

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....jockboy

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back den dey call me jockboy but fr fr u also may kno me as PLUR DADDY

U ain't no plur daddy sir and I'm only gonna issue this warning once next time it's gonna be a felony citation.

[GasTheHostage]

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bruh any1 who swing a board a bitch nigga, less a nigga pulled a banger on u den u put u fuckin hands up and fight em u pussy

yall nigga poosy losers

dat kid who hit mans in face with the truck not man enough to take a hit himself

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Can someone please translate this person?

Hes saying that the kids are apparently pussy for fighting the guy back after he hit them in the face. The logic he is using is complete nonsense, cuz why not just hit them with a board and make it hurt more. Be patient, he has autism.

[arrbee]

they might be prolonging the case to make Jesse think he's fucked and take a plea deal. They need to release the tapes from GX. All we are seeing is the security guards side and his story of how he fished. What about Jesse's story and his tapes?

That's a possibility I suppose.

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5 days for an assault case seems like a long time. Are there any new details? Either side close to wrapping?

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Must be complications with the case if 5 days is a long time. Three different charges, each charge could take some time to go through one by one maybe? Or there's problems with the charges and evidence against Jesse and it's difficult to convict him?

I thought there's a charge for an accidental death or accidental permanent damage in a fight, maybe something is going on with that? I don't think he got charged with anything like that...

The don't run through each charge one by one, the prosecutor will file all related charges which pertain to the evidence they have and the likelihood of conviction.

Usually they will over charge, something like 5-6 charges and come with a plea deal for a lesser charge to make the defendant feel like they made it out light. Often times you will see charges that look similar i.e. assault, assault w/ deadly weapon, assault with intent to cause bodily harm, aggravated assault. Then the judge or jury listen to all the evidence in the case and decide which charge fits, could be more than one charge (which would increase sentencing) or none of the evidence fits any of the charges enough to convict.

That is why I feel like this is a long trial, there can't be this much evidence. And witnesses shouldn't take very long. Usually lengthy trials come from having witnesses up multiple days trying to prove premeditated.

Just feels strange to me, prosecutor must really want this one. Wants to make an example.

[chris gentryfied]

it's a jury trial. obviously they're not unanimous and they're debating back and forth. hasn't anyone seen '12 angry men'?
hopefully he's got some sympathetic jurors, no punishment is gonna heal security but letting dude live a normal life, he might do some good. what's he gonna do in prison, put in work for the peckerwoods? nobody does good for the world behind bars [unless killing a child molester is doing good].

[breakingthewaves]

i don't think the prosecution would let their case drag on in order make the defendant think they're in trouble and take a plea. but who knows. vieira is up on all of those charges because those are the crimes the da's office thinks he committed. of course the jury can convict on whatever ones they think he did. sometimes in murder cases the defendant will be charged with 1st degree, but the judge allow the jury to find guilty of 1st degree, 2nd degree or in some cases manslaughter. i don't know how it works, but i don't think that sort of thing is happening here.

and yes i also think this case is taking a long time, seems like a straightforward assault trial with no substantial backstory to it. however the prosecutor is establishing a pattern of behavior with 5 911 calls about skaters the day before. and the video footage is anything but straightforward. i was also curious that he was scheduled to be in court every day last week, so i had assumed the trial started last monday (doesn't seem to be the case).

[GasTheHostage]

i don't think the prosecution would let their case drag on in order make the defendant think they're in trouble and take a plea. but who knows. vieira is up on all of those charges because those are the crimes the da's office thinks he committed. of course the jury can convict on whatever ones they think he did. sometimes in murder cases the defendant will be charged with 1st degree, but the judge allow the jury to find guilty of 1st degree, 2nd degree or in some cases manslaughter. i don't know how it works, but i don't think that sort of thing is happening here.

and yes i also think this case is taking a long time, seems like a straightforward assault trial with no substantial backstory to it. however the prosecutor is establishing a pattern of behavior with 5 911 calls about skaters the day before. and the video footage is anything but straightforward. i was also curious that he was scheduled to be in court every day last week, so i had assumed the trial started last monday (doesn't seem to be the case).

The video is so low quality and doesn't give any information on the backstory either. You can barely tell how it started or the reasoning behind it. Seems kinda biased but still yeah it shouldn't really take this long.

[no life]

it's a jury trial. obviously they're not unanimous and they're debating back and forth. hasn't anyone seen '12 angry men'?
hopefully he's got some sympathetic jurors, no punishment is gonna heal security but letting dude live a normal life, he might do some good. what's he gonna do in prison, put in work for the peckerwoods? nobody does good for the world behind bars [unless killing a child molester is doing good].

peckerwoods? get ya eyes checked

[GasTheHostage]

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it's a jury trial. obviously they're not unanimous and they're debating back and forth. hasn't anyone seen '12 angry men'?
hopefully he's got some sympathetic jurors, no punishment is gonna heal security but letting dude live a normal life, he might do some good. what's he gonna do in prison, put in work for the peckerwoods? nobody does good for the world behind bars [unless killing a child molester is doing good].

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peckerwoods? get ya eyes checked

lol where do peckerwoods have anything to do with this

[Black Frycook]

Fucking peckerwoods smh

[no life]

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it's a jury trial. obviously they're not unanimous and they're debating back and forth. hasn't anyone seen '12 angry men'?
hopefully he's got some sympathetic jurors, no punishment is gonna heal security but letting dude live a normal life, he might do some good. what's he gonna do in prison, put in work for the peckerwoods? nobody does good for the world behind bars [unless killing a child molester is doing good].

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peckerwoods? get ya eyes checked

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lol where do peckerwoods have anything to do with this

get ya eyes checked

[chris gentryfied]

is he brown? i only know him from that kf grind on the Lennie Kirk rail. then change it to what good can he do in prison, stab a white for the northern mexican race? same shit, nothing good about incarceration.

[Painted Baby]

Trying to tie the previous 911 calls to the actual incident seems like some crummy lawyering. Do they have evidence that Jesse and his crew were the skaters that they previously called 911 for? Seems like that in and of itself would be difficult to prove. And if so what does that even mean? Are they trying to charge him with menacing? I suspect the GX vid is more exonerating than has been let on and they are trying to muddy up their argument with some bad skater kids narrative since that had legs in the media.