Terry Kennedy of baker

[Sick Duck]

He’s already been in jail for at least a year now too which will go towards his sentence. Sucks to say but i’ll bet he’s out in a few years, unless he goes off the rails in prison. Which is definitely possible

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"intent to kill" doesn't matter, he killed a man and should be held accountable for it, whether it was accidental or not
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Intent to kill does matter when it comes to the court of law. Whoever went for “first degree” should have known better and went for “second degree.”

Second degree is easier to convict as lawyers just have to prove the culprit intended to harm the person in the heat of the moment which ultimately led to a death. That charge would’ve stuck and TK would’ve been facing 25-to-life WITH possibility of parole plus the time added for aggravated battery.

TK does need to be held accountable and I have a feeling with no friends in a IL prison system, accountability might be handled within those walls.

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Isn't it possible to charge them with first and second degree murder in the same case to see which one sticks? Leading to a verdict of not guilty of one and guilty of the other? I'm genuinely asking because, for some odd reason, I thought it was common practice.

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I’m no lawyer, but I believe they can be charged with both in hopes that the lesser be accepted (e.g. Chauvin in the George Floyd case was charged with 2nd degree and manslaughter—the lesser being what he was charged with).

In this case, the DA should’ve known that 1st degree wouldn’t had stuck. 2nd degree and/or manslaughter should’ve been what he was charged with.

What I wonder is, if a new DA will try to charge him with 2nd/Manslaughter as he wasn’t charged with it in the first trial, meaning he isn’t protected by double jeopardy laws.

Either way, the DA fucked up.

Thanks for the clarification and extra info. I didn't know they could retry cases with a new DA.

[Christ Puncher]

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I’m legitimately shocked the murder charge didn’t stick.

How much time you think he’s gonna get?  10 years?  He needs to be in a mental facility.

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I can't understand this legal writing, but from my quick reading it seems the weakest punishment bracket for aggravated battery is a: minimum of 6 years and a maximum of 45 years.

I suppose we will have to wait for the sentencing hearing, but I imagine they aren't going to go easy on him. Despite beating the murder charge, TK is probably still completely fucked and could spend many decades in prison.

What a horrible end to the TK story: A skater from Illinois losing his life over TK throwing a temper tantrum about needing to get to the airport. TK threw away all of the opportunities skateboarding gave him, he could have been a great/problematic success story, but instead he will go down in history as one of skateboardings biggest monsters.

If someone has experience reading legal documents maybe you can figure out what is going on here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=072000050HArt%2E+12%2C+Subdiv%2E+5&ActID=1876&ChapterID=53&SeqStart=21300000&SeqEnd=23400000

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Highly depends on his previous criminal convictions and not as much on the mitigating circumstances. So he’ll probably get 8-10 years and most likely both charges will run concurrent instead of consecutively. It sucks but that might be the way it plays out.

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I'm not sure where you're seeing the 45 years figure. I'm seeing (for a class X felony) 6 to 30 years. A class X designation requires the use of a deadly weapon and doesn't seem to apply in this instance.

The two charges fall under Class 3 felonies, meaning injuries are the aggravating factor. They carry punishments of 2 to 5 years and a fine of up to $25k.

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Where do you see the 30 years?

I could have read it wrong, but there are exceptions from the deadly weapon: 1) selling controlled substance that results in significant harm 2) fucking with a correctional officer 3) and some other shit. I thought under the other shit included great bodily harm/death but that could just be related to drugs.

The 30 years is for Class X felonies, which this doesn't fall under. In the case of aggravated assault, it's likely due to the perpetrator being armed. If the victim is law enforcement, a school teacher, or an emergency services worker the minimum is increased to 15 years. Again, none of this appears to apply in this instance.

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"intent to kill" doesn't matter, he killed a man and should be held accountable for it, whether it was accidental or not
play stupid games, win stupid prizes

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Intent to kill does matter when it comes to the court of law. Whoever went for “first degree” should have known better and went for “second degree.”

Second degree is easier to convict as lawyers just have to prove the culprit intended to harm the person in the heat of the moment which ultimately led to a death. That charge would’ve stuck and TK would’ve been facing 25-to-life WITH possibility of parole plus the time added for aggravated battery.

TK does need to be held accountable and I have a feeling with no friends in a IL prison system, accountability might be handled within those walls.

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Isn't it possible to charge them with first and second degree murder in the same case to see which one sticks? Leading to a verdict of not guilty of one and guilty of the other? I'm genuinely asking because, for some odd reason, I thought it was common practice.

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I’m no lawyer, but I believe they can be charged with both in hopes that the lesser be accepted (e.g. Chauvin in the George Floyd case was charged with 2nd degree and manslaughter—the lesser being what he was charged with).

In this case, the DA should’ve known that 1st degree wouldn’t had stuck. 2nd degree and/or manslaughter should’ve been what he was charged with.

What I wonder is, if a new DA will try to charge him with 2nd/Manslaughter as he wasn’t charged with it in the first trial, meaning he isn’t protected by double jeopardy laws.

Either way, the DA fucked up.

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Thanks for the clarification and extra info. I didn't know they could retry cases with a new DA.

There's not a great deal of information regarding the trial or the verdict, but there's nothing to suggest that the charges weren't downgraded, that he wasn't tried for second degree murder, or that second degree murder wasn't an option available for conviction. Illinois has provisions for manslaughter charges, but they're not relevant to this situation.

In Illinois a conviction of first degree murder may be predicated solely on an defendant killing an individual while in the act of committing (or attempting to commit) a "forcible felony" – which aggravated battery falls under, which Kennedy was convicted of, and what ultimately killed Josiah. This would seem to suggest that first degree murder wasn't the charge being defended.

Unless the facts of the case are in dispute, it's likely Kennedy is constitutionally protected against retrial.

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"intent to kill" doesn't matter, he killed a man and should be held accountable for it, whether it was accidental or not
play stupid games, win stupid prizes

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Intent to kill does matter when it comes to the court of law. Whoever went for “first degree” should have known better and went for “second degree.”

Second degree is easier to convict as lawyers just have to prove the culprit intended to harm the person in the heat of the moment which ultimately led to a death. That charge would’ve stuck and TK would’ve been facing 25-to-life WITH possibility of parole plus the time added for aggravated battery.

TK does need to be held accountable and I have a feeling with no friends in a IL prison system, accountability might be handled within those walls.

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Isn't it possible to charge them with first and second degree murder in the same case to see which one sticks? Leading to a verdict of not guilty of one and guilty of the other? I'm genuinely asking because, for some odd reason, I thought it was common practice.

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I’m no lawyer, but I believe they can be charged with both in hopes that the lesser be accepted (e.g. Chauvin in the George Floyd case was charged with 2nd degree and manslaughter—the lesser being what he was charged with).

In this case, the DA should’ve known that 1st degree wouldn’t had stuck. 2nd degree and/or manslaughter should’ve been what he was charged with.

What I wonder is, if a new DA will try to charge him with 2nd/Manslaughter as he wasn’t charged with it in the first trial, meaning he isn’t protected by double jeopardy laws.

Either way, the DA fucked up.

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Thanks for the clarification and extra info. I didn't know they could retry cases with a new DA.

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There's not a great deal of information regarding the trial or the verdict, but there's nothing to suggest that the charges weren't downgraded, that he wasn't tried for second degree murder, or that second degree murder wasn't an option available for conviction. Illinois has provisions for manslaughter charges, but they're not relevant to this situation.

In Illinois a conviction of first degree murder may be predicated solely on an defendant killing an individual while in the act of committing (or attempting to commit) a "forcible felony" – which aggravated battery falls under, which Kennedy was convicted of, and what ultimately killed Josiah. This would seem to suggest that first degree murder wasn't the charge being defended.

Unless the facts of the case are in dispute, it's likely Kennedy is constitutionally protected against retrial.

Wasn’t he out on bail for something else at the time?

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Anyway this is all pretty shit and sad to see. I didn’t follow the entire saga - basically picked up the thread a couple of weeks before the murder. Idk. To me it always depresses me how these people don’t seem to have anyone around them to pull them up by the scruff of the neck when they’re about to fall one step too far.

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But I think there were stories in here where TK didn't want help. Like I think someone at Brooklyn Projects tried to say something, but TK was just like "shalom" and walked away.

I think even an old Baker rider (Dollin?) wrote something like they saw him degrading mentally but TK didn't want to accept help.

This is tragic all around. But when it comes to helping someone, it's hard to help those who don't want to be helped.

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Pretty much this. Seen it way too many times over the last years and I am tired of trying to help someone who isn't willing to improve his/her life.

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I agree that people need to want to help themselves  and you can't help someone who is in denial but the TK situation is somewhat different as he demonstrated clear cognitive decline/schizophrenia.If you go to the beginning of this thread , most of the IG post by TK which are deleted now show TK unravelling .....he stops taking care of his personal hygiene ,lost muscle mass, his clothing becomes dingy /not washed , he is on IG live at 2 am smoking meth with that weird white lady, he started getting into weird conspiracy ideas anyone remember his post about being German, "1st black native and claiming he is Jewish. It only get more melancholic when TK on IG put a "hit" on his wife Sarah and would post photos of his family in happier times but by then his kids and wife left him.Other than Gator (fuck him) I can't recall another pro whose downward spiral can match TK in darkness and tragedy. If you look at the analytics of this thread , its fucked to say that the skateboarding community was really engaged with this thread ....5411 posts and 700,000 views. As a software developer who has worked at Facebook and Reddit that type of engagement on a post is quite atypical.

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Hes not schizophrenic,  we concluded that he was mentally unhealthy, but still put out skate clips so he had some level of self control.   I don't think it's a good idea to stereotype people who use drugs.  TK decline IMO was due to his unattended anger management, that escalated into murder, people do this senseless killing shit all the time in the hood.   

also just because you work for incel energy companies doesn't make you an armchair psycho analyst

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I don't know how you think you and some internet buddies are fit to diagnose this man but uhhh you didn't conclude shit buddy

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Buddy we concluded he is on the spectrum of cognitive decline but didnt concluded on the mental health disorder

Horrible news of the acquittal

Right but I don't know how you decided you or anyone else here is fit say whether he's got mental disorders or not based on his instagram clips and news reports. To definitively say 'Slap has concluded TK is not schizophrenic' is just idiocy.

[Shiro417gunpla]

Update video with SKATEINFORMANT

http://youtu.be/L8sbzUZ54iE?si=TvpuSBKcTAr3Kn7e

[addie pray]

u corny 4 this

[Dr Hass]

Seeing a bunch of Facebook pages and twitter accounts saying he could be out in a month (parole hearing on 31 December 2025).

Haven’t come across any actual legit news sources saying this, so posting with a pinch of salt.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php/?story_fbid=1160272099620254&id=100069124252378

[Cheshire Cat]

Seems like he could be out in a month:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php/?story_fbid=1160272099620254&id=100069124252378

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[Dr Hass]

Just says he has a parole date set for December 31 2025. Has been posted by a bunch of skate Facebook pages + twitter accounts but haven’t seen any legit sources…maybe I should’ve hung back and explained that in the original post, will see if I can edit.

[Chonk_Fondress]

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Shot caller checking in...

Do you think TK will put a green light on Sarah in the parole hearing?

In all seriousness, the idea that TK could impress a parole board enough to get early release seems like a SERIOUS stretch concerning his mental health and behavioral issues...

[conan777]

Shot caller checking in...

Do you think TK will put a green light on Sarah in the parole hearing?

In all seriousness, the idea that TK could impress a parole board enough to get early release seems like a SERIOUS stretch concerning his mental health and behavioral issues...

Don't be mad at him. Be mad at the lawyer negotiating your deals!

[V Badun]

I hope his uncle Sun is still alive

[Audrey II]

free max b TK

[augustmoon]

I hope his family has a restraining order and a new address