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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #810 on: May 07, 2022, 10:51:27 AM »
Nice!

Did you measure them against the sticker dims? My Foys ran smaller all around (but WB was longer).

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #811 on: May 07, 2022, 11:04:04 AM »
Nice!

Did you measure them against the sticker dims? My Foys ran smaller all around (but WB was longer).

No but I‘ll do it.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #812 on: May 07, 2022, 11:10:51 AM »
Those Foy’s look really nice. Feels odd to write. I’m also interested in the actual measurements. They look significantly shorter than the neen

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #813 on: May 07, 2022, 12:02:22 PM »
Those Foy’s look really nice. Feels odd to write. I’m also interested in the actual measurements. They look significantly shorter than the neen

Damn, I just looked at the pic again, you're right.

Who to trust...DW website or DW stickers :\
https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/foy-gator-deck-8-5

Seriously, how fucking hard is it? If NHS/Dwindle/Crail (yeah, China) can list and make) correct dims, why can't the rest...

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #814 on: May 07, 2022, 06:30:42 PM »
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Those Foy’s look really nice. Feels odd to write. I’m also interested in the actual measurements. They look significantly shorter than the neen
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Damn, I just looked at the pic again, you're right.

Who to trust...DW website or DW stickers :\
https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/foy-gator-deck-8-5

Seriously, how fucking hard is it? If NHS/Dwindle/Crail (yeah, China) can list and make) correct dims, why can't the rest...

You are correct.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #815 on: May 08, 2022, 12:52:38 AM »
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Those Foy’s look really nice. Feels odd to write. I’m also interested in the actual measurements. They look significantly shorter than the neen
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Damn, I just looked at the pic again, you're right.

Who to trust...DW website or DW stickers :\
https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/foy-gator-deck-8-5

Seriously, how fucking hard is it? If NHS/Dwindle/Crail (yeah, China) can list and make) correct dims, why can't the rest...

I agree that it really shouldn’t be that difficult. They’re essential measurements and to get the wrong so consistently should be unforgivable. Sadly most skaters don’t care.

Crail doesn’t always get it right either. For example this GO39 here doesn’t really add up:


GO39:
8.5” x 31.75”
Wheelbase: 14.75”
Nose: 9.9375”
Tail: 6.7375”

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #816 on: May 08, 2022, 09:10:06 AM »
OK so I measured the Foys.

I am European so I got metric measures but translated them to imperial - it appears that the sticker is not far from the truth:

Width = 21.5 cm = 8.46"
Length = 81 cm = 31.9"
WB = 36.25 cm = 14.27"

In comparison the Neen:

Width = 21.5 cm = 8.46"
Length = 83.1 cm = 32.7"
WB = 36.8 cm = 14.5"
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #817 on: May 08, 2022, 10:42:45 AM »
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Those Foy’s look really nice. Feels odd to write. I’m also interested in the actual measurements. They look significantly shorter than the neen
[close]

Damn, I just looked at the pic again, you're right.

Who to trust...DW website or DW stickers :\
https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/foy-gator-deck-8-5

Seriously, how fucking hard is it? If NHS/Dwindle/Crail (yeah, China) can list and make) correct dims, why can't the rest...
[close]

I agree that it really shouldn’t be that difficult. They’re essential measurements and to get the wrong so consistently should be unforgivable. Sadly most skaters don’t care.

Crail doesn’t always get it right either. For example this GO39 here doesn’t really add up:


GO39:
8.5” x 31.75”
Wheelbase: 14.75”
Nose: 9.9375”
Tail: 6.7375”


I wouldn't trust social media monkeys to get anything correct. Use the crail shape guide; everything I've ridden matches up to what they have listed here:

https://crailtap.com/shapes/#g039 - still...9.9 is crazy

Stats:
Width:8.5″Length:31.75″Wheelbase:14.25″Nose:9.9375″Tail:6.7375

OK so I measured the Foys.

I am European so I got metric measures but translated them to imperial - it appears that the sticker is not far from the truth:

Width = 21.5 cm = 8.46"
Length = 81 cm = 31.9"
WB = 36.25 cm = 14.27"

In comparison the Neen:

Width = 21.5 cm = 8.46"
Length = 83.1 cm = 32.7"
WB = 36.8 cm = 14.5"

Man, 31.9 =/= 32.7 -  that's a pretty big disparity.

Foy dims seem pretty spot on to what I've been riding, tho my WB measured closer to 14.3, give or take, everything else just a hair under the actual measurements. Too much rounding up.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #818 on: May 08, 2022, 11:31:23 AM »
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Those Foy’s look really nice. Feels odd to write. I’m also interested in the actual measurements. They look significantly shorter than the neen
[close]

Damn, I just looked at the pic again, you're right.

Who to trust...DW website or DW stickers :\
https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/foy-gator-deck-8-5

Seriously, how fucking hard is it? If NHS/Dwindle/Crail (yeah, China) can list and make) correct dims, why can't the rest...
[close]

I agree that it really shouldn’t be that difficult. They’re essential measurements and to get the wrong so consistently should be unforgivable. Sadly most skaters don’t care.

Crail doesn’t always get it right either. For example this GO39 here doesn’t really add up:


GO39:
8.5” x 31.75”
Wheelbase: 14.75”
Nose: 9.9375”
Tail: 6.7375”

[close]

I wouldn't trust social media monkeys to get anything correct. Use the crail shape guide; everything I've ridden matches up to what they have listed here:

https://crailtap.com/shapes/#g039

Stats:
Width:8.5″Length:31.75″Wheelbase:14.25″Nose:9.9375″Tail:6.7375

I have never seen that shape IRL myself but I doubt it has an almost 10” nose. Might be among the biggest ones ever. I really like the Crail shape guide but I have my doubts here. Not that it really matters to me as I’m not riding Crail stuff anyway.

Anyway, it’s not a twin tail so no reason to derail this thread any more.

I have three twins I plan on skating this summer once I heal up. Maybe I’ll post some more relevant content to this topic once that happens.  :)

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #819 on: May 08, 2022, 11:47:49 AM »
OK so I measured the Foys.

I am European so I got metric measures but translated them to imperial - it appears that the sticker is not far from the truth:

Width = 21.5 cm = 8.46"
Length = 81 cm = 31.9"
WB = 36.25 cm = 14.27"

In comparison the Neen:

Width = 21.5 cm = 8.46"
Length = 83.1 cm = 32.7"
WB = 36.8 cm = 14.5"

Thank you!

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #820 on: May 08, 2022, 11:49:31 AM »
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Those Foy’s look really nice. Feels odd to write. I’m also interested in the actual measurements. They look significantly shorter than the neen
[close]

Damn, I just looked at the pic again, you're right.

Who to trust...DW website or DW stickers :\
https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/foy-gator-deck-8-5

Seriously, how fucking hard is it? If NHS/Dwindle/Crail (yeah, China) can list and make) correct dims, why can't the rest...
[close]

I agree that it really shouldn’t be that difficult. They’re essential measurements and to get the wrong so consistently should be unforgivable. Sadly most skaters don’t care.

Crail doesn’t always get it right either. For example this GO39 here doesn’t really add up:


GO39:
8.5” x 31.75”
Wheelbase: 14.75”
Nose: 9.9375”
Tail: 6.7375”

[close]

I wouldn't trust social media monkeys to get anything correct. Use the crail shape guide; everything I've ridden matches up to what they have listed here:

https://crailtap.com/shapes/#g039

Stats:
Width:8.5″Length:31.75″Wheelbase:14.25″Nose:9.9375″Tail:6.7375
[close]

I have never seen that shape IRL myself but I doubt it has an almost 10” nose. Might be among the biggest ones ever. I really like the Crail shape guide but I have my doubts here. Not that it really matters to me as I’m not riding Crail stuff anyway.

Anyway, it’s not a twin tail so no reason to derail this thread any more.

I have three twins I plan on skating this summer once I heal up. Maybe I’ll post some more relevant content to this topic once that happens.  :)

Sorry to derail, I’m almost positive that the nose is 6.9+, and the wb is 14.25. So they too have a misprint. Imo the crail guide is still the best

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #821 on: May 08, 2022, 12:21:30 PM »
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Those Foy’s look really nice. Feels odd to write. I’m also interested in the actual measurements. They look significantly shorter than the neen
[close]

Damn, I just looked at the pic again, you're right.

Who to trust...DW website or DW stickers :\
https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/foy-gator-deck-8-5

Seriously, how fucking hard is it? If NHS/Dwindle/Crail (yeah, China) can list and make) correct dims, why can't the rest...
[close]

I agree that it really shouldn’t be that difficult. They’re essential measurements and to get the wrong so consistently should be unforgivable. Sadly most skaters don’t care.

Crail doesn’t always get it right either. For example this GO39 here doesn’t really add up:


GO39:
8.5” x 31.75”
Wheelbase: 14.75”
Nose: 9.9375”
Tail: 6.7375”

[close]

I wouldn't trust social media monkeys to get anything correct. Use the crail shape guide; everything I've ridden matches up to what they have listed here:

https://crailtap.com/shapes/#g039

Stats:
Width:8.5″Length:31.75″Wheelbase:14.25″Nose:9.9375″Tail:6.7375
[close]

I have never seen that shape IRL myself but I doubt it has an almost 10” nose. Might be among the biggest ones ever. I really like the Crail shape guide but I have my doubts here. Not that it really matters to me as I’m not riding Crail stuff anyway.

Anyway, it’s not a twin tail so no reason to derail this thread any more.

I have three twins I plan on skating this summer once I heal up. Maybe I’ll post some more relevant content to this topic once that happens.  :)
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Sorry to derail, I’m almost positive that the nose is 6.9+, and the wb is 14.25. So they too have a misprint. Imo the crail guide is still the best

6.9" makes the most sense. No one is perfect but we all know the companies lurk here and should take a bit more pride in being accurate. Especially when they post this stuff as public facing information.

You may say well only a small niche audience cares...well that small niche audience is also the most vocal (I deal with 'passionate' users in my industry and they are not to be discounted; a lost sale is a lost sale.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #822 on: May 08, 2022, 12:31:57 PM »
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Those Foy’s look really nice. Feels odd to write. I’m also interested in the actual measurements. They look significantly shorter than the neen
[close]

Damn, I just looked at the pic again, you're right.

Who to trust...DW website or DW stickers :\
https://www.deathwishskateboards.com/products/foy-gator-deck-8-5

Seriously, how fucking hard is it? If NHS/Dwindle/Crail (yeah, China) can list and make) correct dims, why can't the rest...
[close]

I agree that it really shouldn’t be that difficult. They’re essential measurements and to get the wrong so consistently should be unforgivable. Sadly most skaters don’t care.

Crail doesn’t always get it right either. For example this GO39 here doesn’t really add up:


GO39:
8.5” x 31.75”
Wheelbase: 14.75”
Nose: 9.9375”
Tail: 6.7375”

[close]

I wouldn't trust social media monkeys to get anything correct. Use the crail shape guide; everything I've ridden matches up to what they have listed here:

https://crailtap.com/shapes/#g039

Stats:
Width:8.5″Length:31.75″Wheelbase:14.25″Nose:9.9375″Tail:6.7375
[close]

I have never seen that shape IRL myself but I doubt it has an almost 10” nose. Might be among the biggest ones ever. I really like the Crail shape guide but I have my doubts here. Not that it really matters to me as I’m not riding Crail stuff anyway.

Anyway, it’s not a twin tail so no reason to derail this thread any more.

I have three twins I plan on skating this summer once I heal up. Maybe I’ll post some more relevant content to this topic once that happens.  :)
[close]

Sorry to derail, I’m almost positive that the nose is 6.9+, and the wb is 14.25. So they too have a misprint. Imo the crail guide is still the best
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6.9" makes the most sense. No one is perfect but we all know the companies lurk here and should take a bit more pride in being accurate. Especially when they post this stuff as public facing information.

You may say well only a small niche audience cares...well that small niche audience is also the most vocal (I deal with 'passionate' users in my industry and they are not to be discounted; a lost sale is a lost sale.

Agree. Also, might as well do it correctly. Skating, as ‘industry’ has definitely gotten away with some nonsense, like forever. And when it crashes and is being made out of garages, again,  I won’t mind.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #823 on: May 10, 2022, 01:33:58 PM »
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Ive always wanted to skate a twin tail with bigger "Tails" like not quite a twin nose but just more space to flick off of, i didn't even know mark had a twin tail. Does the suciu twin tail have larger "Tails" than the Ishod/crob decks? if they are i might have to try it out
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I can't really say about the AWS/Habitat shape (Suciu/Spears), but the Crob/Malto twin I ride currently is a pretty perfect nose/tail hybrid in my opinion.
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Thanks for this, might have to pick up a Foy or try try out the chocolate twins
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The Suciu are BIG ASS NOSE kicks without a doubt...switching back to the foy was like night and day, the Foy being much stubbier in comparison.

I tried to setup the suciu again and give it another shot, it's just....weird feeling to me due to it's over all, and kick, length.
[close]


I know some people shape down their boards a bit, so was wondering if this would be an option on the AWS / Habitat deck, but every time I think about it, I don't really feel motivated to try, even though I will happily modify other aspects of skateboards from time to time.


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If I could, I most certainly would; I'd drop both kicks down enough to bring the deck length from 32.25" to 31.88" - basically matching up with the Foy but squared tips and steep!

I couldn't resist the 8.3 twin since I dig the 8.5 Foy so much, but want something just a bit trimmer all around that isn't a slick. Dims are dead on.

Now...which trucks...I have too many trucks...about 1 finger of flat, medium kicks









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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #824 on: May 11, 2022, 11:44:04 AM »
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Ive always wanted to skate a twin tail with bigger "Tails" like not quite a twin nose but just more space to flick off of, i didn't even know mark had a twin tail. Does the suciu twin tail have larger "Tails" than the Ishod/crob decks? if they are i might have to try it out
[close]
I can't really say about the AWS/Habitat shape (Suciu/Spears), but the Crob/Malto twin I ride currently is a pretty perfect nose/tail hybrid in my opinion.
[close]

Thanks for this, might have to pick up a Foy or try try out the chocolate twins
[close]

The Suciu are BIG ASS NOSE kicks without a doubt...switching back to the foy was like night and day, the Foy being much stubbier in comparison.

I tried to setup the suciu again and give it another shot, it's just....weird feeling to me due to it's over all, and kick, length.
[close]


I know some people shape down their boards a bit, so was wondering if this would be an option on the AWS / Habitat deck, but every time I think about it, I don't really feel motivated to try, even though I will happily modify other aspects of skateboards from time to time.


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If I could, I most certainly would; I'd drop both kicks down enough to bring the deck length from 32.25" to 31.88" - basically matching up with the Foy but squared tips and steep!
[close]

I couldn't resist the 8.3 twin since I dig the 8.5 Foy so much, but want something just a bit trimmer all around that isn't a slick. Dims are dead on.

Now...which trucks...I have too many trucks...about 1 finger of flat, medium kicks



I'll use Thunders on mine... but then again, I use Thunders on everything! ;D

I wish I could share how that combo works for me but I have not set it up yet, I currently have both a Worrest and a Foy setup with some life left... and it might be a while before I wear these out, I hurt my back last week and probably wont skate again for a while. :(

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #825 on: May 11, 2022, 11:49:28 AM »
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Ive always wanted to skate a twin tail with bigger "Tails" like not quite a twin nose but just more space to flick off of, i didn't even know mark had a twin tail. Does the suciu twin tail have larger "Tails" than the Ishod/crob decks? if they are i might have to try it out
[close]
I can't really say about the AWS/Habitat shape (Suciu/Spears), but the Crob/Malto twin I ride currently is a pretty perfect nose/tail hybrid in my opinion.
[close]

Thanks for this, might have to pick up a Foy or try try out the chocolate twins
[close]

The Suciu are BIG ASS NOSE kicks without a doubt...switching back to the foy was like night and day, the Foy being much stubbier in comparison.

I tried to setup the suciu again and give it another shot, it's just....weird feeling to me due to it's over all, and kick, length.
[close]


I know some people shape down their boards a bit, so was wondering if this would be an option on the AWS / Habitat deck, but every time I think about it, I don't really feel motivated to try, even though I will happily modify other aspects of skateboards from time to time.


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If I could, I most certainly would; I'd drop both kicks down enough to bring the deck length from 32.25" to 31.88" - basically matching up with the Foy but squared tips and steep!
[close]

I couldn't resist the 8.3 twin since I dig the 8.5 Foy so much, but want something just a bit trimmer all around that isn't a slick. Dims are dead on.

Now...which trucks...I have too many trucks...about 1 finger of flat, medium kicks


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I'll use Thunders on mine... but then again, I use Thunders on everything! ;D

I wish I could share how that combo works for me but I have not set it up yet, I currently have both a Worrest and a Foy setup with some life left... and it may be a while before I wear these out, I hurt my back last week and it might be a while before I can skate again. :(

Been on the Foy with 149 Royals, it still has life, feels really fun but I've never been able to shake the 'it feels too big' vibe...same when I skate the Neen (or any) 8.25" twin. I just prefer 8.3s, have forever but as noted the dlx 8.3 and me don't vibe well.

Very tempted to throw on Thunders due to the shorter WB the quasi has but Royals just feel (and sound) too good.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #826 on: May 11, 2022, 12:23:35 PM »
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Ive always wanted to skate a twin tail with bigger "Tails" like not quite a twin nose but just more space to flick off of, i didn't even know mark had a twin tail. Does the suciu twin tail have larger "Tails" than the Ishod/crob decks? if they are i might have to try it out
[close]
I can't really say about the AWS/Habitat shape (Suciu/Spears), but the Crob/Malto twin I ride currently is a pretty perfect nose/tail hybrid in my opinion.
[close]

Thanks for this, might have to pick up a Foy or try try out the chocolate twins
[close]

The Suciu are BIG ASS NOSE kicks without a doubt...switching back to the foy was like night and day, the Foy being much stubbier in comparison.

I tried to setup the suciu again and give it another shot, it's just....weird feeling to me due to it's over all, and kick, length.
[close]


I know some people shape down their boards a bit, so was wondering if this would be an option on the AWS / Habitat deck, but every time I think about it, I don't really feel motivated to try, even though I will happily modify other aspects of skateboards from time to time.


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If I could, I most certainly would; I'd drop both kicks down enough to bring the deck length from 32.25" to 31.88" - basically matching up with the Foy but squared tips and steep!
[close]

I couldn't resist the 8.3 twin since I dig the 8.5 Foy so much, but want something just a bit trimmer all around that isn't a slick. Dims are dead on.

Now...which trucks...I have too many trucks...about 1 finger of flat, medium kicks


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I'll use Thunders on mine... but then again, I use Thunders on everything! ;D

I wish I could share how that combo works for me but I have not set it up yet, I currently have both a Worrest and a Foy setup with some life left... and it may be a while before I wear these out, I hurt my back last week and it might be a while before I can skate again. :(
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Been on the Foy with 149 Royals, it still has life, feels really fun but I've never been able to shake the 'it feels too big' vibe...same when I skate the Neen (or any) 8.25" twin. I just prefer 8.3s, have forever but as noted the dlx 8.3 and me don't vibe well.

Very tempted to throw on Thunders due to the shorter WB the quasi has but Royals just feel (and sound) too good.

I know Justin Henry skates that shape with Indy's, similar WB compared to the new Royals I think? Much taller and he also rides big wheels but it looks like it works well for him. Obviously it doesn't mean that's true for you and others but, might be worth a try if you already have the trucks.

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« Reply #827 on: May 16, 2022, 08:41:02 AM »
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Ive always wanted to skate a twin tail with bigger "Tails" like not quite a twin nose but just more space to flick off of, i didn't even know mark had a twin tail. Does the suciu twin tail have larger "Tails" than the Ishod/crob decks? if they are i might have to try it out
[close]
I can't really say about the AWS/Habitat shape (Suciu/Spears), but the Crob/Malto twin I ride currently is a pretty perfect nose/tail hybrid in my opinion.
[close]

Thanks for this, might have to pick up a Foy or try try out the chocolate twins
[close]

The Suciu are BIG ASS NOSE kicks without a doubt...switching back to the foy was like night and day, the Foy being much stubbier in comparison.

I tried to setup the suciu again and give it another shot, it's just....weird feeling to me due to it's over all, and kick, length.
[close]


I know some people shape down their boards a bit, so was wondering if this would be an option on the AWS / Habitat deck, but every time I think about it, I don't really feel motivated to try, even though I will happily modify other aspects of skateboards from time to time.


[close]

If I could, I most certainly would; I'd drop both kicks down enough to bring the deck length from 32.25" to 31.88" - basically matching up with the Foy but squared tips and steep!
[close]

I couldn't resist the 8.3 twin since I dig the 8.5 Foy so much, but want something just a bit trimmer all around that isn't a slick. Dims are dead on.

Now...which trucks...I have too many trucks...about 1 finger of flat, medium kicks


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I'll use Thunders on mine... but then again, I use Thunders on everything! ;D

I wish I could share how that combo works for me but I have not set it up yet, I currently have both a Worrest and a Foy setup with some life left... and it may be a while before I wear these out, I hurt my back last week and it might be a while before I can skate again. :(
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Been on the Foy with 149 Royals, it still has life, feels really fun but I've never been able to shake the 'it feels too big' vibe...same when I skate the Neen (or any) 8.25" twin. I just prefer 8.3s, have forever but as noted the dlx 8.3 and me don't vibe well.

Very tempted to throw on Thunders due to the shorter WB the quasi has but Royals just feel (and sound) too good.
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I know Justin Henry skates that shape with Indy's, similar WB compared to the new Royals I think? Much taller and he also rides big wheels but it looks like it works well for him. Obviously it doesn't mean that's true for you and others but, might be worth a try if you already have the trucks.

Coming off the Foy the shape is perfect, just smaller all around as expected, including WB. Strong DLX TT vibe going on but the wood feels better to me (slick dull thud is gone) and the kicks have just a slightly better taper at the tip than either the foy or dlx.

Been running it with the Royals but going to give thunders a shot to pull that wheelbase out a bit and try out the NFG bushings.

One odd thing I can't figure out is I've got a 'rail rattle' but no rails. Every nut and bolt is secure (I even removed all play on the wheels to test) but it's there. Can't figure it out.

Also, it's BBS if anyone was needing that info
https://quasiskateboards.com/collections/decks/products/henry-mirror-8-375

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #828 on: May 16, 2022, 11:40:44 AM »
I thought about getting that Justin Henry board after picking up those ace lows…..to mellow out the steep kicks or the Ishod to lengthen the nose and tighten the wheel base up. 

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #829 on: May 16, 2022, 11:46:40 AM »
I thought about getting that Justin Henry board after picking up those ace lows…..to mellow out the steep kicks or the Ishod to lengthen the nose and tighten the wheel base up. 

It's definitely a 'small' feeling 8.3 (feels trimmer than the DLX), which is perfect since I can never decide between 8.25 (fulls) or trim 8.3s; it doesn't feel like a boat at all. Paired with the ACEs I bet you'd get that feeling you are looking for. As you know it depends on which board you get out of the press but mine is pretty medium all around.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #830 on: May 17, 2022, 07:07:13 AM »
Strong DLX TT vibe going on but the wood feels better to me (slick dull thud is gone)

No way!  I hadn't put that particular 2+2 together.  I went from a normal R7 popsicle that had an amazingly crisp and clean sounding pop to a couple of DLX TT slicks that have a much more lifeless sound.  It's been driving me mental and you may have pinpointed the issue.

Definitely going to pull the trigger on the Quasi twin but I'm still waiting patiently for an R7 or Primitive twin (DLX I know, but the few Primitives I've had before have been really crispy).

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #831 on: May 17, 2022, 09:02:11 AM »
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Strong DLX TT vibe going on but the wood feels better to me (slick dull thud is gone)
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No way!  I hadn't put that particular 2+2 together.  I went from a normal R7 popsicle that had an amazingly crisp and clean sounding pop to a couple of DLX TT slicks that have a much more lifeless sound.  It's been driving me mental and you may have pinpointed the issue.

Definitely going to pull the trigger on the Quasi twin but I'm still waiting patiently for an R7 or Primitive twin (DLX I know, but the few Primitives I've had before have been really crispy).

Coming off an R7 (love them) anything but a flight/VX/NHS/Dwindle board is going to feel dull and lifeless.

My last Santa Cruz slick was a tad heavier/duller than a regular board but still crispy sounding/feeling compared to the DLX slick. Just the materials I suppose.

Hoping Dwindle (my guess is under Madness) will do a twin, or enjoi with some stupid 'double dong' marketing vibe, as they do.

Maybe creature does a run or SC learns how to actually make twin kicks that match in shape.

Primitive twin would be sick, I love their shapes (you mean BBS?)

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #832 on: May 17, 2022, 02:56:01 PM »
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Strong DLX TT vibe going on but the wood feels better to me (slick dull thud is gone)
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No way!  I hadn't put that particular 2+2 together.  I went from a normal R7 popsicle that had an amazingly crisp and clean sounding pop to a couple of DLX TT slicks that have a much more lifeless sound.  It's been driving me mental and you may have pinpointed the issue.

Definitely going to pull the trigger on the Quasi twin but I'm still waiting patiently for an R7 or Primitive twin (DLX I know, but the few Primitives I've had before have been really crispy).
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Coming off an R7 (love them) anything but a flight/VX/NHS/Dwindle board is going to feel dull and lifeless.

My last Santa Cruz slick was a tad heavier/duller than a regular board but still crispy sounding/feeling compared to the DLX slick. Just the materials I suppose.

Hoping Dwindle (my guess is under Madness) will do a twin, or enjoi with some stupid 'double dong' marketing vibe, as they do.

Maybe creature does a run or SC learns how to actually make twin kicks that match in shape.

Primitive twin would be sick, I love their shapes (you mean BBS?)

Haha, aye, I did mean to say BBS.

I think if Dwindle put out a twin in that fuller shape they've been putting out recently then that would be my go to.  I was reluctant to try a Chinese deck but eventually caved and ended up really liking it. 

The Quasi is arriving tomorrow, stoked to set it up.


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #833 on: May 23, 2022, 09:26:40 AM »
Finally got around to setting up and skating my first twin tail. This Ishod slick. Here's my opinion after skating it for 3 days.
I've had this deck sitting in my stockpile for maybe 6 months. I usually have 1-3 backup decks at a time. I was thinking I might fall in love with the twin so much that I wouldn't want to skate anything else. So I went through all my other boards first before setting this up. And for the first time in a while, I have no backups. For reference, before this I've been on a steady diet of the DLX 8.38, 14.5 WB board. So the Ishod's measurements are fairly similar as far as width & WB.
The first thing I noticed when setting it up was how much smaller all around it felt. 8.3 as opposed to 8.38. You can feel that slightly skinnier board. My wheels (149 standard Indys, 52 F4 classic full) stick out a little more. And having a smaller "nose" gets less length. By the third day though, I've adjusted to the size.
I really like the slick. It slides great and I think it helped on some of the things I skated this weekend.
I like the twin aspect for a couple things. Shuv tricks and tre flips feel good with the equal balanced weight. But besides that, I'm not really a fan. My limited switch and nollie game is even worse with the smaller nose. I was also trying a noseslide to fakie nosegrind combo and it was really tough. I grabbed another board out of my quiver with a normal big nose and it was so much easier. So, I don't hate it enough where I'll be taking it off. But, this will be my one and only twin.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #834 on: May 23, 2022, 12:59:23 PM »
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Strong DLX TT vibe going on but the wood feels better to me (slick dull thud is gone)
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No way!  I hadn't put that particular 2+2 together.  I went from a normal R7 popsicle that had an amazingly crisp and clean sounding pop to a couple of DLX TT slicks that have a much more lifeless sound.  It's been driving me mental and you may have pinpointed the issue.

Definitely going to pull the trigger on the Quasi twin but I'm still waiting patiently for an R7 or Primitive twin (DLX I know, but the few Primitives I've had before have been really crispy).
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Coming off an R7 (love them) anything but a flight/VX/NHS/Dwindle board is going to feel dull and lifeless.

My last Santa Cruz slick was a tad heavier/duller than a regular board but still crispy sounding/feeling compared to the DLX slick. Just the materials I suppose.

Hoping Dwindle (my guess is under Madness) will do a twin, or enjoi with some stupid 'double dong' marketing vibe, as they do.

Maybe creature does a run or SC learns how to actually make twin kicks that match in shape.

Primitive twin would be sick, I love their shapes (you mean BBS?)

last Creature John Gardner deck i had was R7 twin and was a blast
https://nhsfunfactory.com/products/8-84in-x-31-42in-gardner-horrifico-creature-skateboard-deck?variant=42048988119197

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #835 on: May 23, 2022, 02:58:20 PM »
That Gardner wheelbase is much to small for me these days or I would have jumped.

Funny bouncing back to a regular big nose small tail board (8.3 toy machine), I didn’t like it, felt super awkward and boaty. I’ve always preferred rounded fat noses and not the long ‘habitat’ style.

I like not having to worry about board direction and I’ve gained all my nose tricks (noillie or fakie even pop bs shuvs I always did off the nose ) after a few twin boards; going to take longer than three days.

Really digging the quasi twin.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #836 on: May 23, 2022, 03:20:22 PM »
yeah, i'm short and old, so the short wheelbase is my saving grace.  Also lets me step up in width a bit for stability, but still keep my two flip tricks on lock.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #837 on: May 24, 2022, 09:28:42 AM »
yeah, i'm short and old, so the short wheelbase is my saving grace.  Also lets me step up in width a bit for stability, but still keep my two flip tricks on lock.

Whatever keeps us flipping/rolling, man.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #838 on: June 01, 2022, 06:00:55 PM »
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Glider IceBlink 8.5" Twin Tail
Thunder 149 Hollow Lights
Spitfire F4 Classics 53mm
Bones Big Balls
Diamond 7/8" allen hardware

Super fun first session, totally weird trying to not throw the board down the same way every trick. I may need to get some new bushings because these do lean a bit one way but I haven't found the new thunder replacement bushings anywhere.

The shape is awesome, shout out to @Paul_gliderskateboards
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #839 on: June 02, 2022, 03:23:31 AM »

I love this Quasi TT. I think it’s very steep but normally I’ve been skating flat 7.5s, so I’m probably not the best judge for that. Flips pretty effortlessly though compared to the 8.3 Ishod I’ve had.