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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #960 on: December 09, 2022, 11:33:13 AM »
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Had to grab this silly bear 😆

I love Welcome’s “Evil Twin” 8.5 shape.


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What's the kick like? More nose or more tail? Rounded or squareish (think AWS noses)?
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Kinda square and the kick is more like a tail.

Thanks. Got one arriving today! I've ridden the AWS/HAB twin and it was very square (great) but just too long length-wise and a big wheel base.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #961 on: December 12, 2022, 05:10:44 PM »
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Had to grab this silly bear

I love Welcome’s “Evil Twin” 8.5 shape.


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What's the kick like? More nose or more tail? Rounded or squareish (think AWS noses)?
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Kinda square and the kick is more like a tail.
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Thanks. Got one arriving today! I've ridden the AWS/HAB twin and it was very square (great) but just too long length-wise and a big wheel base.

Been nursing an injury so I am just now getting around to unboxing the board. Pleasantly surprised to see it is a BBS board; I thought Welcome was still with PS.

It's definitely a 'full' shape, the width stays pretty consistent until after the (2) fingers of flat for either kick, they rounds off; it looks ever-so-slightly square but not like the AWS/HAB twin.

Kick and concave look/feel the same as my Foy TT. Tho the '8.5' Foy actually measure 8.3x whereas the Welcome is a true 8.5 (the Foy WB also measure 8.25 and it's also under 32" x deathwish specs are waaaay off on this one).

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #962 on: December 13, 2022, 03:56:44 AM »
What are the biggest dimensions on a twin that you know is in existence?

The can’t seem to find any wide and long with long wheelbases.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #963 on: December 13, 2022, 05:38:13 AM »
What are the biggest dimensions on a twin that you know is in existence?

The can’t seem to find any wide and long with long wheelbases.

Heroin had the 9.75” symmetrical egg. That thing was huge. Only 14.25” wheelbase though. I had one and it was fun but eventually not my thing. Too short and too clunky. Not sure what Heroin has been doing lately but I think they’ve come up with some symmetrical eggs after that one also.

For longer ones I think the only one with a longer than 14.5” wheelbase is the Welcome 8.75”, which supposedly has a 14.75” wheelbase. I haven’t tried one myself so dunno how it is. I am interested in trying one but it’s a Welcome so that’ll likely never happen.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #964 on: December 13, 2022, 05:45:50 AM »

Had to grab this silly bear 😆

I love Welcome’s “Evil Twin” 8.5 shape.





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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #965 on: December 13, 2022, 08:15:16 AM »
What are the biggest dimensions on a twin that you know is in existence?

The can’t seem to find any wide and long with long wheelbases.

&& new twin is 8.7”x32.3” with a 14.5” WB, biggest I know of currently.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #966 on: December 13, 2022, 08:27:15 AM »
There also was/is a symmetrical 10" heroin curb killer with a 14.5" wheelbase and the heroin razor egg which is 9.5" with 14.25" wheelbase. They seem to be available in some german online shops.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #967 on: December 13, 2022, 09:31:34 AM »
What are the biggest dimensions on a twin that you know is in existence?

The can’t seem to find any wide and long with long wheelbases.

Welcome Evil Twin 8.75x32.45"

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #968 on: December 13, 2022, 10:59:55 AM »
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What are the biggest dimensions on a twin that you know is in existence?

The can’t seem to find any wide and long with long wheelbases.
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Welcome Evil Twin 8.75x32.45"

Best shape I've ever skated

That must’ve been early on with the first drop; I never saw the 875 and currently it’s nowhere to be found. Bummer sounds like a fun ride.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #969 on: December 14, 2022, 11:08:16 AM »
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What are the biggest dimensions on a twin that you know is in existence?

The can’t seem to find any wide and long with long wheelbases.
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Heroin had the 9.75” symmetrical egg. That thing was huge. Only 14.25” wheelbase though. I had one and it was fun but eventually not my thing. Too short and too clunky. Not sure what Heroin has been doing lately but I think they’ve come up with some symmetrical eggs after that one also.

For longer ones I think the only one with a longer than 14.5” wheelbase is the Welcome 8.75”, which supposedly has a 14.75” wheelbase. I haven’t tried one myself so dunno how it is. I am interested in trying one but it’s a Welcome so that’ll likely never happen.
Thanks, very good recommendations!
Yeah, I’m also very egg-curious, but they also seem to get rather short. Heroin has sick graphics, and they come wide enough, but if I get too cramped I’m not going to enjoy them.

The Welcome could be a potential winner here. Why don’t you like them?


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What are the biggest dimensions on a twin that you know is in existence?

The can’t seem to find any wide and long with long wheelbases.
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Welcome Evil Twin 8.75x32.45"

Best shape I've ever skated

Thanks man!
Dimension seems okay on paper. What did you like the most about it?

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #970 on: December 14, 2022, 12:30:08 PM »
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What are the biggest dimensions on a twin that you know is in existence?

The can’t seem to find any wide and long with long wheelbases.
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Heroin had the 9.75” symmetrical egg. That thing was huge. Only 14.25” wheelbase though. I had one and it was fun but eventually not my thing. Too short and too clunky. Not sure what Heroin has been doing lately but I think they’ve come up with some symmetrical eggs after that one also.

For longer ones I think the only one with a longer than 14.5” wheelbase is the Welcome 8.75”, which supposedly has a 14.75” wheelbase. I haven’t tried one myself so dunno how it is. I am interested in trying one but it’s a Welcome so that’ll likely never happen.
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Thanks, very good recommendations!
Yeah, I’m also very egg-curious, but they also seem to get rather short. Heroin has sick graphics, and they come wide enough, but if I get too cramped I’m not going to enjoy them.

The Welcome could be a potential winner here. Why don’t you like them?

Welcome are hard to come by here in Finland. I don’t know any shops selling them except “European Zumiez” Blue Tomato. Now that they’re BBS I would be more interested. They’re also more than expensive than most other decks. I had one PS Stix Nora board a while back and hated it. It was so flat and weird. Also not a big fan of the Welcome vibes or most of their graphics. And I seem to dislike almost anything else than DLX so I’ve been thinking is it even worth it to try anything else anymore.  :)

Basically a bunch of silly reasons. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with their decks. They’re just mostly probably not for me cuz I’m a bit silly.  :)

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #971 on: December 14, 2022, 12:46:13 PM »
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What are the biggest dimensions on a twin that you know is in existence?

The can’t seem to find any wide and long with long wheelbases.
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Heroin had the 9.75” symmetrical egg. That thing was huge. Only 14.25” wheelbase though. I had one and it was fun but eventually not my thing. Too short and too clunky. Not sure what Heroin has been doing lately but I think they’ve come up with some symmetrical eggs after that one also.

For longer ones I think the only one with a longer than 14.5” wheelbase is the Welcome 8.75”, which supposedly has a 14.75” wheelbase. I haven’t tried one myself so dunno how it is. I am interested in trying one but it’s a Welcome so that’ll likely never happen.
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Thanks, very good recommendations!
Yeah, I’m also very egg-curious, but they also seem to get rather short. Heroin has sick graphics, and they come wide enough, but if I get too cramped I’m not going to enjoy them.

The Welcome could be a potential winner here. Why don’t you like them?
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Welcome are hard to come by here in Finland. I don’t know any shops selling them except “European Zumiez” Blue Tomato. Now that they’re BBS I would be more interested. They’re also more than expensive than most other decks. I had one PS Stix Nora board a while back and hated it. It was so flat and weird. Also not a big fan of the Welcome vibes or most of their graphics. And I seem to dislike almost anything else than DLX so I’ve been thinking is it even worth it to try anything else anymore.  :)

Basically a bunch of silly reasons. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with their decks. They’re just mostly probably not for me cuz I’m a bit silly.  :)

You're not alone in how you feel about them...PS...graphics are hit or miss (I can't hate on the poohbear hunny board tho ;)), shapes...if that's your thing...


Their Twin Tails tho, are a welcome (budum...tssssh) addition to the market, especially since they have a wide spectrum of sizes AND since it's a specialty 'shape', probably will remain in the lineup for a long time...and man, thankfully on BBS...it's harder and harder to get other twins outside of DLXs 8.3s...which outside of Worrest's drops, look like shittle.


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #972 on: December 14, 2022, 01:47:40 PM »
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What are the biggest dimensions on a twin that you know is in existence?

The can’t seem to find any wide and long with long wheelbases.
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Heroin had the 9.75” symmetrical egg. That thing was huge. Only 14.25” wheelbase though. I had one and it was fun but eventually not my thing. Too short and too clunky. Not sure what Heroin has been doing lately but I think they’ve come up with some symmetrical eggs after that one also.

For longer ones I think the only one with a longer than 14.5” wheelbase is the Welcome 8.75”, which supposedly has a 14.75” wheelbase. I haven’t tried one myself so dunno how it is. I am interested in trying one but it’s a Welcome so that’ll likely never happen.
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Thanks, very good recommendations!
Yeah, I’m also very egg-curious, but they also seem to get rather short. Heroin has sick graphics, and they come wide enough, but if I get too cramped I’m not going to enjoy them.

The Welcome could be a potential winner here. Why don’t you like them?
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Welcome are hard to come by here in Finland. I don’t know any shops selling them except “European Zumiez” Blue Tomato. Now that they’re BBS I would be more interested. They’re also more than expensive than most other decks. I had one PS Stix Nora board a while back and hated it. It was so flat and weird. Also not a big fan of the Welcome vibes or most of their graphics. And I seem to dislike almost anything else than DLX so I’ve been thinking is it even worth it to try anything else anymore.  :)

Basically a bunch of silly reasons. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with their decks. They’re just mostly probably not for me cuz I’m a bit silly.  :)

Yeah, I see that price can be a deterrent. 90€ is a lot.  Aren’t many of them here in Denmark either.
I think some of their graphics are cool, but others make my toes wrinkle.
Titus has the smaller 8, 8.25 and 8.5 welcome decks.

My next board gotta be larger by some, compared to my current 8.6x32.11x14.625.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #973 on: December 14, 2022, 06:08:14 PM »
Life Skateboards has a 10" twin football and a 9" big twin (and a couple of other twin options). Life is a company out of Muncie, IN. I don't think there is any connection to Ron Allen's old company called Life, but they make quality boards. I've ridden them and Degros did a review of them too.

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https://www.lifeskateboard.com/welcome/shop

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #974 on: December 14, 2022, 08:47:52 PM »
Life Skateboards has a 10" twin football and a 9" big twin (and a couple of other twin options). Life is a company out of Muncie, IN. I don't think there is any connection to Ron Allen's old company called Life, but they make quality boards. I've ridden them and Degros did a review of them too.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #975 on: December 17, 2022, 01:24:14 PM »
Life Skateboards has a 10" twin football and a 9" big twin (and a couple of other twin options). Life is a company out of Muncie, IN. I don't think there is any connection to Ron Allen's old company called Life, but they make quality boards. I've ridden them and Degros did a review of them too.

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Thanks man!
Damn that guy has some sick ass boards. The twins and footballs/eggs are still not more than 14.75” wb, but I gotta get some of their ridiculously big boats.

I think prices are absolutely fair. Custom boards pressed in the US starting at 80. Where I’m at Real Oval, AH Classic eagle pops, Creature Logo decks are are all 85$ or 600,- DKK.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #976 on: December 17, 2022, 02:28:26 PM »
Life Skateboards has a 10" twin football and a 9" big twin (and a couple of other twin options). Life is a company out of Muncie, IN. I don't think there is any connection to Ron Allen's old company called Life, but they make quality boards. I've ridden them and Degros did a review of them too.


I've got to try riding one of these missiles eventually. Maybe it's all the time I've spent with ultra-greatswords in FromSoft games speaking to me.

Though it'll have to wait for a bit, I'm gonna try shifting down from 8.5 first, since I have doomed aspirations of techier riding.

Yes, I am in the grip of darkest gear madness.
It could be worse.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #977 on: December 17, 2022, 02:34:25 PM »
Took the Welcome 8.5" Evil twin out for a spin today (recovering from a minor ankle tweak still so very very low impact).

Setup thread x post https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3925803#msg3925803

Gripped, the kicks seemed a little short visually at first, that was fleeting and they became normal after 30min or so. It's very mellow and the kick shape is really sweet, it's full but not square (FA/AWS) and not pointy at all...it feels more like the squarer quasi proto or AWS tails, just bigger. I like it.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #978 on: December 18, 2022, 01:39:13 AM »
Took the Welcome 8.5" twin out for a spin today (recovering from a minor ankle tweak still so very very low impact).

Setup thread x post https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3925803#msg3925803

Gripped, the kicks seemed a little short visually at first, that was fleeting and they became normal after 30min or so. It's very mellow and the kick shape is really sweet, it's full but not square (FA/AWS) and not pointy at all...it feels more like the squarer quasi proto or AWS tails, just bigger. I like it.

Thanks, do you have more specs on the deck?
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #979 on: December 18, 2022, 10:13:17 AM »
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Took the Welcome 8.5" twin out for a spin today (recovering from a minor ankle tweak still so very very low impact).

Setup thread x post https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3925803#msg3925803

Gripped, the kicks seemed a little short visually at first, that was fleeting and they became normal after 30min or so. It's very mellow and the kick shape is really sweet, it's full but not square (FA/AWS) and not pointy at all...it feels more like the squarer quasi proto or AWS tails, just bigger. I like it.
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8.5" x 31.95"

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #980 on: December 18, 2022, 01:07:04 PM »
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Took the Welcome 8.5" twin out for a spin today (recovering from a minor ankle tweak still so very very low impact).

Setup thread x post https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg3925803#msg3925803

Gripped, the kicks seemed a little short visually at first, that was fleeting and they became normal after 30min or so. It's very mellow and the kick shape is really sweet, it's full but not square (FA/AWS) and not pointy at all...it feels more like the squarer quasi proto or AWS tails, just bigger. I like it.
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Thanks, do you have more specs on the deck?
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8.5" x 31.95"

14.25" Wheelbase

6.75" Kicks

Sounds great, thanks.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #981 on: December 18, 2022, 01:32:19 PM »
Life Skateboards has a 10" twin football and a 9" big twin (and a couple of other twin options). Life is a company out of Muncie, IN. I don't think there is any connection to Ron Allen's old company called Life, but they make quality boards. I've ridden them and Degros did a review of them too.

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https://www.lifeskateboard.com/welcome/shop

Degros review:


Oh sjit, just now saw the Dino egg. That thing is redonc. Even though it’s not a twin, that board will be mine, oh yes.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #982 on: December 20, 2022, 01:30:01 AM »
For the experimental ones of you, I just saw that napalm customs has twin tails, when I was looking for the quantum bearings (they are the only importer of them to Europe known to me):
https://napalmcustom.com/?s=twin&post_type=product
Price is fairly high with 155 Euro. +4 Euro for 2 grips if I saw that right. They are all 5-plys maple + 2 carbon fiber layers and a polymer layers in nose and tail against razor tail.
If anybody tries them I would be interested how they feel and I wonder if their press is really symmetrical or if nose and tail have different steepness/fingers of flat. I never tried on of those high tech decks, let it be powel flight, VX or whatever Kape is/was doing. I have to go through a back log of 7 decks first.
I would love to see the 7.8" with venture lows and 50mm classics.

tl;dr:
Fancy finish made high tech carbon fiber twin tails in:
7.8" (!) (medium concave), 8.1" (medium and high) and 8.5" (shaped with "aggressive high" concave). All with 14" wb.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #983 on: December 20, 2022, 02:31:01 AM »
Many of my friends have skated Napalm Custom decks. One friend knows the dude who runs it. They are very light decks if you’re into that and very durable. I know they at least used to do decks according to your specs and requirements. Not sure what sort of molds the dude has but he’s some material scientist engineer nerd who started making his own boards cuz he didn’t like what was available as a bigger guy and that grew into a business. You could always contract him and ask more. From my understanding he likes to discuss board specs with people.

I’ve never had one personally as I kinda like the disposability of decks ( :-X :-X :-X) and rarely felt that I needed a lighter deck. Also not a fan of the graphics myself.

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #984 on: December 22, 2022, 05:21:29 PM »
P.Rod on twin nose..


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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #985 on: December 22, 2022, 07:20:53 PM »
If that primitive is the standard 8.25 primitive nose shape, I'm all in, it's great shape (which also has a long-ish tail so not much of a stretch to make it a nose).

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #986 on: December 23, 2022, 05:56:27 AM »
P.Rod on twin nose..



Came here to post that too, if its the standard Primitive dimensions then I'm all in for trying one.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #987 on: December 23, 2022, 07:08:43 AM »
God damn It's finally happening. Twins are here to stay this time

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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #988 on: December 23, 2022, 04:33:00 PM »
God damn It's finally happening. Twins are here to stay this time

Certainly feels like it. If players like Ishod, Foy, Prod (also Neen and Welcome) stick with them....feels like more and more people are adopting them.

It's funny, that Prod Vid, arguably the current switchboss is like 'huh?....should have done that ages ago" kind cracks me up, like, no shit dude, just how important is a short tail?

FWIW, this prim 8.25s are only a .25" diff between nose and tail and I wouldn't be surprised is they averaged out them out and went for a 7" for the kicks.

Also, decenzo been riding noses as tails forever.
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Re: Twin tail
« Reply #989 on: December 23, 2022, 11:14:16 PM »
Jeremy Klein was one of the first dudes I remember but it seemed more like he was anti popsicle stick….