Twin tail

[rocklobster]

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I've never skated a twin tail - I'm so used to the nose being bigger than the tail. For those of you that made the switch to a twin tail, what was it like? I looked back a few pages for some opinions but didn't see anything.

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I think it’s important to see them in person to make sure the kicks are to your liking. Some are sort of dual nose, some are sort of dual tail. I really like the real Ishod twin 8.5s, the kicks are pretty full but not totally square and that’s been really comfortable for me.

After a session or two you just completely stop thinking about it which is really cool. Just put your board down and go. I could see if you have really a strong nollie/switch game it could be more of an adjustment since your trick set ups will change a bit, but it’s worth trying imo

Like @BartHarleyJarvis said, it depends if you like a twin tail (DLX, shorter kicks) or twin nose (Habitat / Crail, longer kicks), it took time to get the truck tightness even for both but I appreciate not having to check which is my nose and tail anymore before throwing down.

Some other side effects:
- changing up your colored bolts game - I used to do 2 colored bolts, not all black
- changing up your griptape game - ideally I want plain black but I've got a few sheets of grip with cutouts which was distracting for a bit
- having to stock up on a shape you like - you're committed to 1 shape so finding an equivalent is tough

[OhioGuy]

Welcome’s new lineup for this season has no evil twins. On their IG they said there will be none this season.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they stay gone. All of their shapes are basically popsicle and egg now.

So if you have one, don’t get too attached to that shape!

[Xen]

Welcome’s new lineup for this season has no evil twins. On their IG they said there will be none this season.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they stay gone. All of their shapes are basically popsicle and egg now.

So if you have one, don’t get too attached to that shape!

DW Neen and Foy drops seemingly the same (only old stock out there).

Guess we'll all be riding Crail, DLX, SC or Hab/AWS eventually. I've been on non-twins for a bit, but might have to jump back to DLX for some Worrest twins (better graphics than Ishods).

I've said it earlier in this thread, but TT are not as popular as people think and for sure get lower priority when it comes to production runs...no matter what *YOUR* shop sells through...it's not the only shop...

[Ok]

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Welcome’s new lineup for this season has no evil twins. On their IG they said there will be none this season.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they stay gone. All of their shapes are basically popsicle and egg now.

So if you have one, don’t get too attached to that shape!

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DW Neen and Foy drops seemingly the same (only old stock out there).

Guess we'll all be riding Crail, DLX, SC or Hab/AWS eventually. I've been on non-twins for a bit, but might have to jump back to DLX for some Worrest twins (better graphics than Ishods).

I've said it earlier in this thread, but TT are not as popular as people think and for sure get lower priority when it comes to production runs...no matter what *YOUR* shop sells through...it's not the only shop...

yeah the bobby makes me want to try the 8.38 one

[Hubba Bo-Tep]

Welcome’s new lineup for this season has no evil twins. On their IG they said there will be none this season.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they stay gone. All of their shapes are basically popsicle and egg now.

So if you have one, don’t get too attached to that shape!

This legitimately gave me the fear, so I asked them if Evil Twins will be coming back in future drops and they replied that they will return "later next year". Fuck knows what that actually means, but they will be returning. 

Got one left on ice, and will have to get at least 3 more to see me through.

[Xen]

Started watching this and how he's skating the board, he doesn't turn it around (one time I think?) Unless he doesn't care about tricks on/off the nose or tail, he's skating it like a twin.

Still a goat/killing it.

[flintstagram]

Started watching this and how he's skating the board, he doesn't turn it around (one time I think?) Unless he doesn't care about tricks on/off the nose or tail, he's skating it like a twin.

Still a goat/killing it.

Haven’t watched the video, but he has been skating a twin shape in some of the other videos. Not sure when primitive will actually make it available for the masses though.

[moonordie]

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Started watching this and how he's skating the board, he doesn't turn it around (one time I think?) Unless he doesn't care about tricks on/off the nose or tail, he's skating it like a twin.

Still a goat/killing it.

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Haven’t watched the video, but he has been skating a twin shape in some of the other videos. Not sure when primitive will actually make it available for the masses though.

He's been on twin noses for a while

[Xen]

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Started watching this and how he's skating the board, he doesn't turn it around (one time I think?) Unless he doesn't care about tricks on/off the nose or tail, he's skating it like a twin.

Still a goat/killing it.

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Haven’t watched the video, but he has been skating a twin shape in some of the other videos. Not sure when primitive will actually make it available for the masses though.

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He's been on twin noses for a while

Wish they'd release them!

[Easy Slider]

I really need a deck, my Quasi is disintegrating. Would hate to cop another Ishod/Worrest tho, wasn't a fan. I debate getting a "regular" bloard with more or less equal nose and tail.

[Xen]

I really need a deck, my Quasi is disintegrating. Would hate to cop another Ishod/Worrest tho, wasn't a fan. I debate getting a "regular" bloard with more or less equal nose and tail.

I tried going back and want to jump back to twins; the thing that messes with me the most is the difference in kicks; I'm on a planb now and the nose is so much steeper, it feels super weird just doing shuvs to orientate the board.

Eyeing some non-twin santa cruz options, the stump shapes, as they use a mold with symmetrical kicks - degree of kick, not shape; they are also less steep than their twins...man if they made a 'stump twin' I'd be all in.

[flintstagram]

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I really need a deck, my Quasi is disintegrating. Would hate to cop another Ishod/Worrest tho, wasn't a fan. I debate getting a "regular" bloard with more or less equal nose and tail.

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I tried going back and want to jump back to twins; the thing that messes with me the most is the difference in kicks; I'm on a planb now and the nose is so much steeper, it feels super weird just doing shuvs to orientate the board.

Eyeing some non-twin santa cruz options, the stump shapes, as they use a mold with symmetrical kicks - degree of kick, not shape; they are also less steep than their twins...man if they made a 'stump twin' I'd be all in.

I literally looked today to see if they are making stump twins yet. The stumps have a damn good shape, they’d rule as a twin.

[Easy Slider]

Brehs I found a source. German outfit.

https://firstskateshop.com/en-eu/collections/superply

Just ordered a 8.38 twin blank.

Will report back.

[Xen]

Brehs I found a source. German outfit.

https://firstskateshop.com/en-eu/collections/superply

Just ordered a 8.38 twin blank.

Will report back.

Sounds like DSM.

[goodatmeth]

Brehs I found a source. German outfit.

https://firstskateshop.com/en-eu/collections/superply

Just ordered a 8.38 twin blank.

Will report back.

Those are the twins skatedeluxe sells, and my local shop does as well. Just set up the 8.38, been riding the 8.25 for 2 months and it was great. I just wish the tails were a bit steeper. They're 19°.

[flintstagram]

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I really need a deck, my Quasi is disintegrating. Would hate to cop another Ishod/Worrest tho, wasn't a fan. I debate getting a "regular" bloard with more or less equal nose and tail.

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I tried going back and want to jump back to twins; the thing that messes with me the most is the difference in kicks; I'm on a planb now and the nose is so much steeper, it feels super weird just doing shuvs to orientate the board.

Eyeing some non-twin santa cruz options, the stump shapes, as they use a mold with symmetrical kicks - degree of kick, not shape; they are also less steep than their twins...man if they made a 'stump twin' I'd be all in.

I think skating something other than a plan b will also help a ton. I skated a plan b 8.5 a few years back when Cole was still on. Worst feeling board. The nose was so long and steep. Hated it so much. I skated it for several weeks trying to get used to it. Never did. Won’t make that mistake again.

[Xen]

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I really need a deck, my Quasi is disintegrating. Would hate to cop another Ishod/Worrest tho, wasn't a fan. I debate getting a "regular" bloard with more or less equal nose and tail.

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I tried going back and want to jump back to twins; the thing that messes with me the most is the difference in kicks; I'm on a planb now and the nose is so much steeper, it feels super weird just doing shuvs to orientate the board.

Eyeing some non-twin santa cruz options, the stump shapes, as they use a mold with symmetrical kicks - degree of kick, not shape; they are also less steep than their twins...man if they made a 'stump twin' I'd be all in.

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I think skating something other than a plan b will also help a ton. I skated a plan b 8.5 a few years back when Cole was still on. Worst feeling board. The nose was so long and steep. Hated it so much. I skated it for several weeks trying to get used to it. Never did. Won’t make that mistake again.

Yeah, I've already dismissed it (nose sucks, kick and shape); waiting for the BF sales to kick in full.

[Easy Slider]

Cross post from the set up thread:

After quite a while on the Quasi 8.375 twin, I picked up an 8.38 shop blank twin from First Skateshop. This is an entirely different beast than the Quasi even if the measurements are somehow similar: Length and width are identical, wheelbase on the shop blank a hair wider. However, and as you can see, the kicks on the shop blank are much wider/squarer than the Quasi. As a matter of fact this shop blank reminds me of the Ishod 8.5 twin a lot. It could actually be labelled twin nose. If that's your jam you might like it. Further, the concave (not the kicks) seems quite steep. I only had one sesh and will have to explore further.

Here's the specs:

8.38 twin blank from First Skateshop
Miles
Indy Forged Hollows 144 stock
Spitfire classics used to be 52mm but now a bit smaller
Swiss Super Six (or whatever they call them)
First Aid 1 inch Allen bolts

[rocklobster]

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/apex-bold-green-8-25-twin
https://habitatskateboards.com/products/apex-bold-blue-8-375-twin
https://habitatskateboards.com/products/apex-bold-white-8-5-twin

I'm probably the rare few who enjoys the Habitat Twin shapes, but they are now available in 8.25 / 8.38 / 8.5
8.25 & 8.38 - L: 32.25, WB: 14.38
8.5 - L: 32.375, WB: 14.25, thought this was an off measurement but I just checked and it is actually that long

[Xen]

Based off the 8.3, probably safe to assume the 8.25 measures true.

Why so long?

[rocklobster]

Based off the 8.3, probably safe to assume the 8.25 measures true.

Why so long?

Big deck energy is why

[Xen]

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/apex-bold-green-8-25-twin
https://habitatskateboards.com/products/apex-bold-blue-8-375-twin
https://habitatskateboards.com/products/apex-bold-white-8-5-twin

I'm probably the rare few who enjoys the Habitat Twin shapes, but they are now available in 8.25 / 8.38 / 8.5
8.25 & 8.38 - L: 32.25, WB: 14.38
8.5 - L: 32.375, WB: 14.25, thought this was an off measurement but I just checked and it is actually that long

I'm on my last bigboyfoy twin and it's starting to get soft. Been skating bigger boards (8.5), bigger wheels (54mm) and bigger trucks (8.75") so fuck it - I bought the 8.5 habitat (was gonna bite on the 8.5 crail but can't commit to that 14" WB).

Usually I stick to twin nose or hybrids but I'm hoping the longer kicks will give me a bit more leverage popping out of stuff (especially with pop-over tricks).

Hopefully I like it now vs when I rode the 8.3 twin, just wasn't vibing with it back then as I was riding short/under 8.3 and small WB bloards.

[Xen]

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg4127250#msg4127250

From the setup thread - 8.5 habitat apex

[goodatmeth]

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg4127250#msg4127250

From the setup thread - 8.5 habitat apex

And is it really really 100% 14.25? I had one of the older habitat twins, expecting 14.25 and it ended up being 14.4 or something.

[Xen]

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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg4127250#msg4127250

From the setup thread - 8.5 habitat apex

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And is it really really 100% 14.25? I had one of the older habitat twins, expecting 14.25 and it ended up being 14.4 or something.

Up until recently, the only habitat twin was the 8.3 and it was always listed as 14.3x (same as it is for this recent drop).

The 8.5 measures true enough to listed manu dims (i'd argue it's a mm shorter on length, but w/e, there's always going to be some variance unless you are making your shit at DSM):

8.5 x 32.375 x 14.25 - I set it up with indys first and hated it (I dislike indy/ace on 14.25 WB boards); swapped to royals and it was spot on (they push out just a bit more than indy but less than venture, right around a thunder).

It's def longer compared to the DW Foy I was riding which was 31.875ish with short round tails vs long noses (and they are noses despite the official 'twin tail' description) on the apex (I don't have to angle so much with krooks on the apex with the longer kicks).

[rocklobster]

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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg4127250#msg4127250

From the setup thread - 8.5 habitat apex

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And is it really really 100% 14.25? I had one of the older habitat twins, expecting 14.25 and it ended up being 14.4 or something.

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Up until recently, the only habitat twin was the 8.3 and it was always listed as 14.3x (same as it is for this recent drop).

The 8.5 measures true enough to listed manu dims (i'd argue it's a mm shorter on length, but w/e, there's always going to be some variance unless you are making your shit at DSM):

8.5 x 32.375 x 14.25 - I set it up with indys first and hated it (I dislike indy/ace on 14.25 WB boards); swapped to royals and it was spot on (they push out just a bit more than indy but less than venture, right around a thunder).

It's def longer compared to the DW Foy I was riding which was 31.875ish with short round tails vs long noses (and they are noses despite the official 'twin tail' description) on the apex (I don't have to angle so much with krooks on the apex with the longer kicks).

Setup a fresh 8.5 Apex just yesterday and the increased length (overall length and shortened WB) was very noticeable especially after riding the 8.38. Even on Venture Forged the kicks felt really long.

[Xen]

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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg4127250#msg4127250

From the setup thread - 8.5 habitat apex

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And is it really really 100% 14.25? I had one of the older habitat twins, expecting 14.25 and it ended up being 14.4 or something.

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Up until recently, the only habitat twin was the 8.3 and it was always listed as 14.3x (same as it is for this recent drop).

The 8.5 measures true enough to listed manu dims (i'd argue it's a mm shorter on length, but w/e, there's always going to be some variance unless you are making your shit at DSM):

8.5 x 32.375 x 14.25 - I set it up with indys first and hated it (I dislike indy/ace on 14.25 WB boards); swapped to royals and it was spot on (they push out just a bit more than indy but less than venture, right around a thunder).

It's def longer compared to the DW Foy I was riding which was 31.875ish with short round tails vs long noses (and they are noses despite the official 'twin tail' description) on the apex (I don't have to angle so much with krooks on the apex with the longer kicks).

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Setup a fresh 8.5 Apex just yesterday and the increased length (overall length and shortened WB) was very noticeable especially after riding the 8.38. Even on Venture Forged the kicks felt really long.

It's weird to me they went with the longer WB on the narrower / shorter board (8.3) and vice versa on the wider longer one (8.5)....unless that's just a suciu thing since he's been riding the 8.3...the short WB with the 8.25" seems about right tho.

What trucks did you pair with it?

[rocklobster]

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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=10804.msg4127250#msg4127250

From the setup thread - 8.5 habitat apex

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And is it really really 100% 14.25? I had one of the older habitat twins, expecting 14.25 and it ended up being 14.4 or something.

[close]

Up until recently, the only habitat twin was the 8.3 and it was always listed as 14.3x (same as it is for this recent drop).

The 8.5 measures true enough to listed manu dims (i'd argue it's a mm shorter on length, but w/e, there's always going to be some variance unless you are making your shit at DSM):

8.5 x 32.375 x 14.25 - I set it up with indys first and hated it (I dislike indy/ace on 14.25 WB boards); swapped to royals and it was spot on (they push out just a bit more than indy but less than venture, right around a thunder).

It's def longer compared to the DW Foy I was riding which was 31.875ish with short round tails vs long noses (and they are noses despite the official 'twin tail' description) on the apex (I don't have to angle so much with krooks on the apex with the longer kicks).

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Setup a fresh 8.5 Apex just yesterday and the increased length (overall length and shortened WB) was very noticeable especially after riding the 8.38. Even on Venture Forged the kicks felt really long.

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It's weird to me they went with the longer WB on the narrower / shorter board (8.3) and vice versa on the wider longer one (8.5)....unless that's just a suciu thing since he's been riding the 8.3...the short WB with the 8.25" seems about right tho.

What trucks did you pair with it?

Be nice if they scaled the dimension with width, 8.25 x 32 x 14.25 sounds like a good time.

Went with Venture Forged, could just be the cold start because after 20 minutes I was getting the timing, but the longer nose and tail was making flips tricky.

[Micki Free]

Looks like Thank You and Toy Machine with some twin shapes now.

https://www.tactics.com/search/twin/skateboard-decks

Idk if old news but i went back a few pages and didnt see anyone else post

[marcusbutler]

Looks like Thank You and Toy Machine with some twin shapes now.

https://www.tactics.com/search/twin/skateboard-decks

Idk if old news but i went back a few pages and didnt see anyone else post

That welcome looks sick! More like a twin nose(6.75). Been looking for an 8" twin to try. Also 14" WB! This is rare coming from welcome. Love the name "evil twin".
https://www.tactics.com/welcome/clairvoyant-80-evil-twin-shape-skateboard-deck/black