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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26550 on: January 08, 2021, 12:53:01 PM »


Christmas complete that I put together for my girlfriend (it’s her birthday)

Polar Surf shape 8.75" (widest point) / WB: 14.375"
Indy stage 11 regular 149s
OJ keyframe 56mm
Super Reds
Shorty’s Philips hardware

Extremely fun setup. The lady is already linking turns and rolling around pretty effectively. I took a few pushes and loved it. The combo of Indy truck and deck shape makes for excellent 70s style slalom turns and tucked in carves.

I forgot how much I like the turn on indies after skating thunders for a few years. Went out and got a set of 149 hollows for my own setup immediately. I’ve been screwing around with different bushings and risers trying to get this kind of turn out of Thunders but this setup nailed it right out of the box. Might need to do a full polar shape cruiser set up for myself eventually...

Another interesting observation: the surf shake feels a lot smaller than I expected. The 8.75” dimension is really only relevant at the widest point right around the front bolts. The tail is much thinner and makes the thing a lot more like a zip zinger than I expected. Oh, and the wheel wells are working great, I only got the tiniest little bit of wheelbite even when I was muscling my way thru super tight circular carves.

Yeah just to echo your statement, it doesn’t feel like an 8.75 whatsoever.. reminds me more riding an 8.25. Even with 56 conical fulls and aces and rails it didn’t feel too cumbersome. I had mine setup as a cruiser/curb board but it ended up being my main setup until I got a new deck for Xmas.

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26551 on: January 08, 2021, 12:55:20 PM »
Broke my regular board on a frontside flip. Surf board was on a flatground ollie one foot. Lesson learned there. If you add the age of both together though you’d get an average of 3 weeks of use out of each



Damn both those decks look pretty new....

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26552 on: January 08, 2021, 03:41:27 PM »
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Broke my regular board on a frontside flip. Surf board was on a flatground ollie one foot. Lesson learned there. If you add the age of both together though you’d get an average of 3 weeks of use out of each


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Damn both those decks look pretty new....
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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26553 on: January 08, 2021, 03:43:34 PM »


Round 2:
Polar Hjalte 8”
Polar Shin Sanbongi p9

Better luck this time around!

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26554 on: January 08, 2021, 06:54:53 PM »
Girl board was a total failure, 3rd board this year so far...

Hopefully BBS is back for the win, for now at least.

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26555 on: January 09, 2021, 01:03:17 AM »
Anybody have recommendations for setting up a cruiser board?  I have a bunch of old decks and I'd just like to set up something quiet at night to get to my car since I have to park far.  Figured I'd like to go cruise around downtown late at night too.  Trucks, risers id needed, what wheels..

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26556 on: January 09, 2021, 02:19:40 AM »
Anybody have recommendations for setting up a cruiser board?  I have a bunch of old decks and I'd just like to set up something quiet at night to get to my car since I have to park far.  Figured I'd like to go cruise around downtown late at night too.  Trucks, risers id needed, what wheels..

Ace trucks and either Ricta cloud 78a (if it’s a smaller cruiser) or Oj mini super juice for bigger cruisers (bigger than 8.5 wide decks). That’s only because I like to do some basic tricks on my cruisers, just pushing around I would probably use the Ojs on any cruiser set up.

More tricks=more specific I get with truck/wheel combos relative to the deck but for mostly pushing around and carving, nothing (imo) turns quite as nice as Aces do and the Ojs comfortably roll over damn near any surface and don’t seem to chip like most other soft wheels have for me. Rictas (the smaller than 60mm ones) are great too because they are shaped closer to normal street wheels, so it’s less clunky to do some tricks and they don’t chip either, but don’t steam roll quite as many crusty surfaces as easily as OJ mini super juice do.

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26557 on: January 09, 2021, 02:22:01 AM »
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Round 2:
Polar Hjalte 8”
Polar Shin Sanbongi p9
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Better luck this time around!
that Astro boy board!!!
If it had a shorter wheelbase, I’d be all over it

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26558 on: January 09, 2021, 03:26:52 AM »
Anybody have recommendations for setting up a cruiser board?  I have a bunch of old decks and I'd just like to set up something quiet at night to get to my car since I have to park far.  Figured I'd like to go cruise around downtown late at night too.  Trucks, risers id needed, what wheels..

As Sundaynuggets said, depending on whether you want to ollie up a curb or do much else besides just getting from A to B, smaller wheels are easier to skate normally (52 to 56 mm) than big cruiser wheels (60+ mm) but the bigger ones will get over everything more easily than smaller ones.

Spitfire 80 HD are very soft and almost squishy when going round corners fast, but roll well going straight or gentle turns.

Ricta come in 78, 86 and 92 and from 52 to 60 mm sizes.

Others like Bones / Mini logo come in 90 duro and all sizes.


I like around 90 duro for most things in cruiser wheels for getting around as they are not too soft and I can still slide on them if I really push, but everyone is different and it depends on what you have available round you as well.

If you have some worn down trucks, retire them for the cruiser and just get yourself some new ones of the sort you want to ride - much easier than getting new ones just for the cruiser too.

Risers optional depending on wheel size or how loose you ride your trucks, but I wouldn't go over about 1/8 with normal 1 inch bolts anyway, unless you really want the big rig feel.

This was from the wheels thread about soft wheels too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82118.msg3446525#msg3446525

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26559 on: January 09, 2021, 03:29:09 AM »

Santa and you pals hooked it up,

 
Real heavyweights 8.38”
Indy Allen bolts
Ace 44’s
Bronson raws
Spitfire 54 classic

Quasi 8.38” Al Davis
Thunder 148’s
Bones reds
Spitfire lock-ins 52mm

Passport 8.25”
Random allen hardware
Indy 144’s
Spitfire f4’s 52mm

Wife’s setup.....
Let’s go skate club 8.25”
Thunder hollows
Bones super reds
Bronze Allen hardware
Spitfire 52mm

I’m stocked up and ready to ride for a while I’m hyped and thanks pals for this.

Got a set of Rowan Vans shoes too I’m styling.

That is a good ride or three - always good to have a spare just in case.

When I saw the Real heavyweights, I thought they were a good option for some people I know and definitely last a long time.

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26560 on: January 09, 2021, 08:13:59 AM »
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Anybody have recommendations for setting up a cruiser board?  I have a bunch of old decks and I'd just like to set up something quiet at night to get to my car since I have to park far.  Figured I'd like to go cruise around downtown late at night too.  Trucks, risers id needed, what wheels..
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As Sundaynuggets said, depending on whether you want to ollie up a curb or do much else besides just getting from A to B, smaller wheels are easier to skate normally (52 to 56 mm) than big cruiser wheels (60+ mm) but the bigger ones will get over everything more easily than smaller ones.

Spitfire 80 HD are very soft and almost squishy when going round corners fast, but roll well going straight or gentle turns.

Ricta come in 78, 86 and 92 and from 52 to 60 mm sizes.

Others like Bones / Mini logo come in 90 duro and all sizes.


I like around 90 duro for most things in cruiser wheels for getting around as they are not too soft and I can still slide on them if I really push, but everyone is different and it depends on what you have available round you as well.

If you have some worn down trucks, retire them for the cruiser and just get yourself some new ones of the sort you want to ride - much easier than getting new ones just for the cruiser too.

Risers optional depending on wheel size or how loose you ride your trucks, but I wouldn't go over about 1/8 with normal 1 inch bolts anyway, unless you really want the big rig feel.

This was from the wheels thread about soft wheels too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82118.msg3446525#msg3446525
For a cruiser that you can ollie and do some tricks Id say the OJ Keyframes are as good as it gets. Such a smooth ride yet you are still able to do tricks comfortably (sliding is kinda hard though)



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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26561 on: January 09, 2021, 09:17:17 AM »
I’m old and not tech so regular kick and heel flips, varial flips and as close to tre flips as I can get. To be fair I learnt varial flips in 1990 on a 9.5 world vallely so guess I’m used to it

Honestly it flips well for its size and better than most other shapes I’ve tried. Maybe it’s the short wheelbase.
Ah makes sense I forget/trip out that you dudes pretty much skated towncars back in the day. Variable flip on that would look mad decent. 
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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26562 on: January 09, 2021, 10:45:15 AM »
Anybody have recommendations for setting up a cruiser board?

Cruiser thread hasn’t seen love in a while.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=38836.1590

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26563 on: January 09, 2021, 02:44:07 PM »
Random question but anyone get a really steep quasi proto recently? Mine looks like an FA, has way more concave and the tail is decently steep too unlike the mellow stubby-tail jake Johnson acid ply I had before. Feels nice was just really thrown off by shape at first as never see a 8.25 14.25 WB quasi shaped like that

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26564 on: January 09, 2021, 03:46:03 PM »
Random question but anyone get a really steep quasi proto recently? Mine looks like an FA, has way more concave and the tail is decently steep too unlike the mellow stubby-tail jake Johnson acid ply I had before. Feels nice was just really thrown off by shape at first as never see a 8.25 14.25 WB quasi shaped like that
Mine was pretty steep when I first set it up, but it feels like its flattening as I ride it more-like from medium steep to mellow.

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26565 on: January 09, 2021, 04:41:02 PM »
Random question but anyone get a really steep quasi proto recently? Mine looks like an FA, has way more concave and the tail is decently steep too unlike the mellow stubby-tail jake Johnson acid ply I had before. Feels nice was just really thrown off by shape at first as never see a 8.25 14.25 WB quasi shaped like that

I have an 8.25 proto at the bottom of my stack in hopes that it flattens out a bit. Im on an 8.25 Wilson currently and it feels like it’s mellowed out over a few weeks of skating it.

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26566 on: January 09, 2021, 05:03:43 PM »
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Anybody have recommendations for setting up a cruiser board?
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Cruiser thread hasn’t seen love in a while.

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=38836.1590

Thanks - worth an update.
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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26567 on: January 09, 2021, 07:49:27 PM »


New Xmas deck. Still have a little life in my current setup but I’m dead set on nailing heel flips and after a session, I think sizing down from an 8.75 to this 8.5 is going to get me there quicker.

8.5 Grandma kinda snubbed nose and kick but with a little taper vs the big square shapes.
149s
53mm F4 Radial
Big Balls

I like it a lot. Stiff and light, pop sounds good. I needed a deck while visiting Santa Fe at Christmas and Ignition got a small order of these which are pressed in a home shop in Albuquerque. Seems like they’re doing some pretty cool stuff. The shop, date, and batch number were etched on the top.
I only skate prime numbers, so it's either 53s or 59s, feast or famine

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26568 on: January 09, 2021, 11:37:28 PM »


New Xmas deck. Still have a little life in my current setup but I’m dead set on nailing heel flips and after a session, I think sizing down from an 8.75 to this 8.5 is going to get me there quicker.

8.5 Grandma kinda snubbed nose and kick but with a little taper vs the big square shapes.
149s
53mm F4 Radial
Big Balls

I like it a lot. Stiff and light, pop sounds good. I needed a deck while visiting Santa Fe at Christmas and Ignition got a small order of these which are pressed in a home shop in Albuquerque. Seems like they’re doing some pretty cool stuff. The shop, date, and batch number were etched on the top.
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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26569 on: January 10, 2021, 12:05:38 AM »
I think I have been posting too much, so held off posting this, but I am so happy with it right now.

It is easier to post Instagram as pics I upload directly never seem to turn out so well, or they are very small.

My detailed (almost rant) about specs in the post, but the basics:

Antihero 8.38
Indy 149s with aftermarket 92 low bushings
Bones swiss
Spitfire classics 99, 56 when new, now down around 50 so nice and wide
Shortys 7/8 silverados
Jessup grip

Vans Era pro from a long time ago



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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26570 on: January 10, 2021, 12:29:15 AM »
I think I have been posting too much, so held off posting this, but I am so happy with it right now.

It is easier to post Instagram as pics I upload directly never seem to turn out so well, or they are very small.

My detailed (almost rant) about specs in the post, but the basics:

Antihero 8.38
Indy 149s with aftermarket 92 low bushings
Bones swiss
Spitfire classics 99, 56 when new, now down around 50 so nice and wide
Shortys 7/8 silverados
Jessup grip

Vans Era pro from a long time ago



How are the low bushings on standards? Eagle will always look so good

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26571 on: January 10, 2021, 02:22:30 AM »

How are the low bushings on standards? Eagle will always look so good

I had been cutting the top one down on standard bushings for a long time but I can just put them straight on and go, as the bottom one is the same height, unlike some other brands where both are very small, the Indy low are only low in the head, not the bottom bushing, and it is about 2 mm or so difference between these and the standard height bushings.

Check the other frames from my post, just hit the white right button - you don't need to go into instagram - as I added a close up on the trucks because I know others who would be asking.

It means I can have slightly harder bushings without the trucks being tight,  so more spring back and less wheel bite (even though all four wheels touch deck easily) but not have them too tight that I cannot carve in tight circles if I want to.
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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26572 on: January 10, 2021, 08:06:10 AM »


Ben Degros mentioned in a recent video that his new batch of blanks are coming in from China, plus latest IG clips had him on a Maven deck, a brand based out of China.

Been testing out a couple of decks from there and the quality has been well above average. Decided to setup a Promade because it had the dimensions I liked: long length, short wheelbase.

Promade 8.25 - 8.25 x 32.1 x 14.25, incredibly steep concave and kicks, felt like I was stepping in a dish
Venture 5.6 V-Hollow w/ cast baseplate - Can't beat the pinch, may go back to a forged baseplate to compensate for the steep kicks
Spitfire 52mm Radial Slims 99a - much more forgiving than the Bones V3 I was riding, every time I ride F4 I ask myself why I even bothered with other wheels
Blank Ceramic bearings - $15, worth a shot
Assorted hardware and griptape

Lots of ghost pop on day 1 but I attribute that to 4 weeks worth of military training and minimal skateboarding. I may swap to a forged baseplate to compensate for the steep kicks. But after 1 session (before the rain came in), the deck felt promising but would need a longer break in time.
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5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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« Reply #26573 on: January 10, 2021, 08:12:51 AM »

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26574 on: January 10, 2021, 08:43:20 AM »
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Thanks! A lot of China board graphics are unbearable - blatant copyright infringement, over-the-top distasteful or riddled with Engrish. When I find a company that does simpler graphics I definitely pick up a couple of boards from them.
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5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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« Reply #26575 on: January 10, 2021, 04:05:35 PM »
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Thanks! A lot of China board graphics are unbearable - blatant copyright infringement, over-the-top distasteful or riddled with Engrish. When I find a company that does simpler graphics I definitely pick up a couple of boards from them.

I like the graphic on that even though it's so simple. Where did you find the $15 ceramics?

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26576 on: January 10, 2021, 05:19:17 PM »
Never seen a 5 ball bearing before, wild.

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« Reply #26577 on: January 10, 2021, 06:15:33 PM »
Never seen a 5 ball bearing before, wild.

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Thanks! A lot of China board graphics are unbearable - blatant copyright infringement, over-the-top distasteful or riddled with Engrish. When I find a company that does simpler graphics I definitely pick up a couple of boards from them.
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I like the graphic on that even though it's so simple. Where did you find the $15 ceramics?

Aliexpress or Taobao (China's Amazon) if you're feeling adventurous. I figured that most big brand bearings are coming from China anyway, what you're paying for is QC, marketing, the brand recognition and a sticker, hence going closer to the source. Not a bad place if you're looking to stock up on skate tools or hardware. I'm not picky about bearings and toss old ones out instead of trying to clean them, so cheap bearings are my go-to.

Aliexpress is rife with counterfeit boards (Baker / Girl), trucks (old stage 11 Indys), wheels (Spitfires, posted extensively about them) and bearings (Bones). You know fuckery is afoot when a Baker complete costs $100.
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FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26578 on: January 10, 2021, 07:33:29 PM »
Anybody have recommendations for setting up a cruiser board?  I have a bunch of old decks and I'd just like to set up something quiet at night to get to my car since I have to park far.  Figured I'd like to go cruise around downtown late at night too.  Trucks, risers id needed, what wheels..
Use any deck and correlating truck size, and just add wheels and risers as needed. My best cruisers are wheels at least 78a duro and at least 60 mm or larger, this is for the smoothest and most comfortable cruise, the combo of the large diameter and soft urethane allows you to glide over most cracks and small rocks. All my cruisers are just regular decks with risers to accommodate the larger wheels. My favorite cruiser wheels have been what I'm currently ridin is powell snakes 66 mm with only and 1/8" riser, though I use hard bushings and get no wheel bite. Also slimeballs were good and the oj superjuice. However the snakes have been the most durable, you can powerslide them and they don't seem to chunk even on rough pavement. Here they are on a madness (left deck), 169 indies, with no riser on 66 mm, the madness had wheel wells which I think helped. I ve used this same setup on popscicle decks.


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Re: The Set-up Thread
« Reply #26579 on: January 10, 2021, 08:42:07 PM »


Prime/SoCal blank
Venture 6.1
Spitfire 80hd 58
Kalis