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Just noticed Destructo put the Railkillers up.

https://destructotrucks.com/collections/trucks/products/d1-mid-rail-killers

To hit or not to hit. 

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HIT! and post results. I think Destructo might make a decent return in the near future.

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Still waiting for someone to state the differences between D1 & D2, aside from the height. Looks like a different baseplate too.

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D1's ride like indies, D2's ride like thunders. And the height, obviously. D2's also come with double cones instead of cone/barrel like the D1's. I know at one point they came with bones bushings, but I'm not sure if they still do. But they're more Thunder/Theeve-ish, whereas the D1's are just straight indy. Essentially, the D2's are more of a snappy response whereas the D1's are more carvy.

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Thanks man, any chance you know what they do with WB? And what's the deal with the Rail Killers aside from a different baseplate?

Edit: been chatting with the people manning the Destructo IG page, solid customer service. Here is their reply regarding the Railkillers:
"The rail killers are a D1 but sit slightly lower than the normal D1 but not enough to market it as such. It's also longer than the standard base plate so your pop will actually be a little more responsive. I've seen them in action and they go on crusty ledges for sure. GOnna set up a set myself soon so I can be more knowledgeable."

He also hooked me up with a discount code for 20% off before shipping. I'm definitely going to try a pair.

Code: shalom (yeah I assume they lurk here)

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Had some time today and went about measuring the WB on the Destructo D2 Lite: on a 14" WB board they add around 3.15" of WB, so right about the same as a Thunder Team (Cast plate), between a Indy Std and Thunder forged.

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Or just buy those railkillers... I think I need to just go for it.

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You wish

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Yeah, I do.

Ordered them. 

Hope you used the promo code shalom at checkout for 20% off. Let me know how the Railkillers perform!

[ILikeToMilkDucks]

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Just noticed Destructo put the Railkillers up.

https://destructotrucks.com/collections/trucks/products/d1-mid-rail-killers

To hit or not to hit. 

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HIT! and post results. I think Destructo might make a decent return in the near future.

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Still waiting for someone to state the differences between D1 & D2, aside from the height. Looks like a different baseplate too.

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D1's ride like indies, D2's ride like thunders. And the height, obviously. D2's also come with double cones instead of cone/barrel like the D1's. I know at one point they came with bones bushings, but I'm not sure if they still do. But they're more Thunder/Theeve-ish, whereas the D1's are just straight indy. Essentially, the D2's are more of a snappy response whereas the D1's are more carvy.

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Thanks man, any chance you know what they do with WB? And what's the deal with the Rail Killers aside from a different baseplate?

Edit: been chatting with the people manning the Destructo IG page, solid customer service. Here is their reply regarding the Railkillers:
"The rail killers are a D1 but sit slightly lower than the normal D1 but not enough to market it as such. It's also longer than the standard base plate so your pop will actually be a little more responsive. I've seen them in action and they go on crusty ledges for sure. GOnna set up a set myself soon so I can be more knowledgeable."

He also hooked me up with a discount code for 20% off before shipping. I'm definitely going to try a pair.

Code: shalom (yeah I assume they lurk here)

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Had some time today and went about measuring the WB on the Destructo D2 Lite: on a 14" WB board they add around 3.15" of WB, so right about the same as a Thunder Team (Cast plate), between a Indy Std and Thunder forged.

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Or just buy those railkillers... I think I need to just go for it.

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You wish

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Yeah, I do.

Ordered them. 

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Hope you used the promo code shalom at checkout for 20% off. Let me know how the Railkillers perform!

Absolutely did. Thanks for the heads up on that one! Once I get 'em I'll give my impressions for sure.

[whatsreallygood]

I'm still semi choked I didn't see the discount code before I snagged a pair, hopefully next time if I fall for the rail killers

[rocklobster]

I'm still semi choked I didn't see the discount code before I snagged a pair, hopefully next time if I fall for the rail killers

Have the trucks been shipped? If they haven't maybe you can cancel the order and get a refund?

[whatsreallygood]

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I'm still semi choked I didn't see the discount code before I snagged a pair, hopefully next time if I fall for the rail killers

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Have the trucks been shipped? If they haven't maybe you can cancel the order and get a refund?

Nah they shipped a while ago, it's all good. If this were a way bigger purchase I'd seriously consider that. Thanks for the suggestion though

[Esmith5488]

Pretty sick destructo hooked up the shalom code. Had a pair like 15 years ago and with taxes I might just buy some shit instead of being a totally financially responsible adult

[sadnocomply]

https://shop.travisscott.com/products/cactus-jack-skate-trucks

Someone take the plunge and order these and get back to us! Lmao

[jay_nev]

https://shop.travisscott.com/products/cactus-jack-skate-trucks

Someone take the plunge and order these and get back to us! Lmao

haha, I’m all set. Wonder if NHS did all the hardgoods or something lol

[TwisT]

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https://shop.travisscott.com/products/cactus-jack-skate-trucks

Someone take the plunge and order these and get back to us! Lmao

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haha, I’m all set. Wonder if NHS did all the hardgoods or something lol

4-5 weeks the ship? I’ll pass

[munchbox]

"skateboarding is not a crime" -Travis Scott

[whatsreallygood]

Just got the destructos, weather is shit atm so I dunno when I'll get to skate them properly but very stoked

"skateboarding is not a crime" -Travis Scott

I think you got the wrong thread?

Edit: my bad didn't see the "cactus jack" trucks

[munchbox]

Just got the destructos, weather is shit atm so I dunno when I'll get to skate them properly but very stoked

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I think you got the wrong thread?

they were talkinh about his signature trucks right above this

[whatsreallygood]

Yeah that was my bad, I just missed it, jfc the trav merch looks goofy

[whatsreallygood]

Two things, I got to push around with some homies and use the destructos for like 20 minutes, and I rode my buddies theeves (v2 I think?) and I kept feeling like I was gonna tip onto two wheels whenever I tried to turn deep.

Was there a big change from V1 -> V2 -> V3? Because turning on those trucks just felt off, they had some new-ish bones medium bushings and were just tightened up to the point the nut was flush with the kingpin so nothing weird about them. Any idea? Maybe it's just me.

The destructos feel like indys, that's really the best way to put it. Only issue is they're one of those trucks where bushings and washers all stacked on the kingpin give you like one thread to screw on the top nut, so you've gotta crank things down a bit so the top nut is flush with the kingpin. This means there's a decent bit of pressure on the bushings. I'm going to get some soft indy barrel bushings (or really any soft barrel bushing, whatever works) to get a better turn. I know they can turn well since if you don't screw down the top nut so it's flush with the kingpin, they feel pretty much like lndys. Once I actually skate them properly and give them a fair change with soft bushings I'll let people know wassup

[rocklobster]

Two things, I got to push around with some homies and use the destructos for like 20 minutes, and I rode my buddies theeves (v2 I think?) and I kept feeling like I was gonna tip onto two wheels whenever I tried to turn deep.

Was there a big change from V1 -> V2 -> V3? Because turning on those trucks just felt off, they had some new-ish bones medium bushings and were just tightened up to the point the nut was flush with the kingpin so nothing weird about them. Any idea? Maybe it's just me.

The destructos feel like indys, that's really the best way to put it. Only issue is they're one of those trucks where bushings and washers all stacked on the kingpin give you like one thread to screw on the top nut, so you've gotta crank things down a bit so the top nut is flush with the kingpin. This means there's a decent bit of pressure on the bushings. I'm going to get some soft indy barrel bushings (or really any soft barrel bushing, whatever works) to get a better turn. I know they can turn well since if you don't screw down the top nut so it's flush with the kingpin, they feel pretty much like lndys. Once I actually skate them properly and give them a fair change with soft bushings I'll let people know wassup

How was the pop feel on those suckers? I was about to setup a board with Destructo D2 but decided to try out my Ventures instead.

[whatsreallygood]

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Two things, I got to push around with some homies and use the destructos for like 20 minutes, and I rode my buddies theeves (v2 I think?) and I kept feeling like I was gonna tip onto two wheels whenever I tried to turn deep.

Was there a big change from V1 -> V2 -> V3? Because turning on those trucks just felt off, they had some new-ish bones medium bushings and were just tightened up to the point the nut was flush with the kingpin so nothing weird about them. Any idea? Maybe it's just me.

The destructos feel like indys, that's really the best way to put it. Only issue is they're one of those trucks where bushings and washers all stacked on the kingpin give you like one thread to screw on the top nut, so you've gotta crank things down a bit so the top nut is flush with the kingpin. This means there's a decent bit of pressure on the bushings. I'm going to get some soft indy barrel bushings (or really any soft barrel bushing, whatever works) to get a better turn. I know they can turn well since if you don't screw down the top nut so it's flush with the kingpin, they feel pretty much like lndys. Once I actually skate them properly and give them a fair change with soft bushings I'll let people know wassup

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How was the pop feel on those suckers? I was about to setup a board with Destructo D2 but decided to try out my Ventures instead.

Really good actually, they don't feel as tall as they actually are (like 56mm?). Just felt stable and snappy, no complaints at all in that regard, just be weary you might want to swap in softer bushings like what indy sells. On a side note how do you like you're ventures? The last time I skated some was when DLX redesigned the highs and I wanted to see if they turned better. I found that because of the drawn out WB they just couldn't turn as deep as I liked, wondering if that's still the case compared to other trucks.

Edit: I should note, for the destructos I only ollied around with them, but I gotta say I had no issues popping shit high out the gates. I feel like I should better elaborate how they feeling jumping around. I REALLY liked boning out high ollies with them, the angle you get when you pop (I assume from the height of the truck, WB and a bunch of other shit all together) lends itself to really boned out ollies. I don't wanna jump the gun and say it's amazing just yet though since I barely skated them and I'm gonna change the bushings out anyway since they're too stiff as it is. I might hate them with softer bushings and find them unstable when I setup and pop, but for now the pop is great, the turn with stock bushings is meh. We'll see what happens with some soft indy bushings

[rocklobster]

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Two things, I got to push around with some homies and use the destructos for like 20 minutes, and I rode my buddies theeves (v2 I think?) and I kept feeling like I was gonna tip onto two wheels whenever I tried to turn deep.

Was there a big change from V1 -> V2 -> V3? Because turning on those trucks just felt off, they had some new-ish bones medium bushings and were just tightened up to the point the nut was flush with the kingpin so nothing weird about them. Any idea? Maybe it's just me.

The destructos feel like indys, that's really the best way to put it. Only issue is they're one of those trucks where bushings and washers all stacked on the kingpin give you like one thread to screw on the top nut, so you've gotta crank things down a bit so the top nut is flush with the kingpin. This means there's a decent bit of pressure on the bushings. I'm going to get some soft indy barrel bushings (or really any soft barrel bushing, whatever works) to get a better turn. I know they can turn well since if you don't screw down the top nut so it's flush with the kingpin, they feel pretty much like lndys. Once I actually skate them properly and give them a fair change with soft bushings I'll let people know wassup

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How was the pop feel on those suckers? I was about to setup a board with Destructo D2 but decided to try out my Ventures instead.

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Really good actually, they don't feel as tall as they actually are (like 56mm?). Just felt stable and snappy, no complaints at all in that regard, just be weary you might want to swap in softer bushings like what indy sells. On a side note how do you like you're ventures? The last time I skated some was when DLX redesigned the highs and I wanted to see if they turned better. I found that because of the drawn out WB they just couldn't turn as deep as I liked, wondering if that's still the case compared to other trucks.

Edit: I should note, for the destructos I only ollied around with them, but I gotta say I had no issues popping shit high out the gates. I feel like I should better elaborate how they feeling jumping around. I REALLY liked boning out high ollies with them, the angle you get when you pop (I assume from the height of the truck, WB and a bunch of other shit all together) lends itself to really boned out ollies. I don't wanna jump the gun and say it's amazing just yet though since I barely skated them and I'm gonna change the bushings out anyway since they're too stiff as it is. I might hate them with softer bushings and find them unstable when I setup and pop, but for now the pop is great, the turn with stock bushings is meh. We'll see what happens with some soft indy bushings

Thanks for the review, I'm hoping they aren't like Indys, every pair I've ridden so far has been disappointing (139 Hollow Forged, 144 Standard).

I rode the Venture 5.2 Lo Hollow Lights, His are only coming in next week. The turn was much slower than Indys (surf-like carving) or Thunder (sharper, tighter). The trucks were brand new and even by the end of the session with the bushing broken in they didn't like Indys or Thunder. This isn't to say they didn't turn at all, just slow and gradual, more like a drift than a pivot if that makes sense. Could probably benefit for a bushing replacement but I grew up riding tight trucks, I just tick tack to turn.

Instead of tightening the kingpin progressively throughout the session I loosened it to get a better pinch on the ledge. Which to me is way more important than turn. In terms of pinch I rank them Ventures, Thunder and Indys.

Pop feel on a short WB deck felt amazing. I paired them with a 14" WB deck that I had planned to retire and the pop came right back. Stick to your feet kind of pops. I figured having a longer WB shortens the tail, making the pop feel much sharper and responsive, just spitballing its almost 6pm on a Friday.

Only gripe was the height, but that's the Lo for you. Tail felt like it was bottoming out earlier than my foot, timing was a little off. But by the end of the session I didn't notice it as much. The reduced height of the truck felt amazing for grinds and flip tricks. The closeness of the truck to the ledge helped with the pinch and to stay over my truck, I have a tend to have trouble staying over my trucks for 5-0s and the deck shoots out.

Overall, loving Ventures, can't wait to ride the Hi and 5.6.

(Coincidentally someone hit me up to trade a pair of Venture 5.0 Lo with his Destructo 5.25 Superlights. I'm kind of interested but its the older models, not the newer Magnesium one)

[drewsmahgoos]

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Just noticed Destructo put the Railkillers up.

https://destructotrucks.com/collections/trucks/products/d1-mid-rail-killers

To hit or not to hit. 

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HIT! and post results. I think Destructo might make a decent return in the near future.

I really hope so. I had these cornball OBEY trucks by destructo before and while looking back on the graphics makes me cringe, I did love those trucks and rode very well with them back in the day. If they aren't total shit I'd try another set but I for sure have my eyes on the film trucks next. They look sweet and I nearly came when I saw that top bushing.

[Sundaynuggets]

Just got some Film 5.5 raws and they are pretty interesting so far (skated for two days). I’m just coming off of riding some Ace 44’s, so my judgement of the turning might be skewed a bit.

Yesterday, they felt really uncomfortable and slow turning first half hour or so. I tried all kinds of configurations to loosen the bushings up (washers, no washers, super loose, etc) and still felt like there was too much of a delayed turn. I know that obviously, the bushings aren’t going to be broken in right off the bat, but I didn’t really feel like waiting around for that so I got some Bones soft bushings. After that, I skated for about an hour and another hour this morning and the turn is fine. They feel fairly stable in the middle and pretty tight carving turns after that.

They grind well, so that’s not a problem.

The wheelbase thing is interesting. They are listed on the wb thread as +2.87 or something like that, which looks very close to Aces and the height/width are supposed to be about the same, but somehow they feel like they make the wheelbase wider than that, like maybe somewhere between Indy and Thunder. I measured for myself and they were exactly as listed on the thread, so I assume it must be some other feature of the geometry that i don’t understand.

Anyway, they are ok so far. I may discover later that I love them and my heart will soar, but as of this moment they seem like they don’t really do anything quite as well as Aces or Indy’s and are kind of a middle of the pack truck. They do look pretty cool though. I like the print on the bottom of the baseplate and the design of the hangar.

I’ll update when I have some more time on them, or if my fickle nature drives me to write something totally different.

Edit: once again I’m full of shit. After riding for another day the wb feels pretty much how it should at +2.87.

[rocklobster]

Just got the destructos, weather is shit atm so I dunno when I'll get to skate them properly but very stoked

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I think you got the wrong thread?

Edit: my bad didn't see the "cactus jack" trucks

Did you get the D1 or D2? Could you help measure the WB extension? I got the D2, they add 3.125"

[whatsreallygood]

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Just got the destructos, weather is shit atm so I dunno when I'll get to skate them properly but very stoked

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I think you got the wrong thread?

Edit: my bad didn't see the "cactus jack" trucks

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Did you get the D1 or D2? Could you help measure the WB extension? I got the D2, they add 3.125"

I have D1s, which as people have said before, is the "indy-like" one. I didn't have shit to measure on hand so I just held it next to my ATGs and they're identical, so whatever the new tensors WB is, so are the D1s. They could be a mm more tucked in? It's so close it's hard to see

[whatsreallygood]

Just got some Film 5.5 raws and they are pretty interesting so far (skated for two days). I’m just coming off of riding some Ace 44’s, so my judgement of the turning might be skewed a bit.

Yesterday, they felt really uncomfortable and slow turning first half hour or so. I tried all kinds of configurations to loosen the bushings up (washers, no washers, super loose, etc) and still felt like there was too much of a delayed turn. I know that obviously, the bushings aren’t going to be broken in right off the bat, but I didn’t really feel like waiting around for that so I got some Bones soft bushings. After that, I skated for about an hour and another hour this morning and the turn is fine. They feel fairly stable in the middle and pretty tight carving turns after that.

They grind well, so that’s not a problem.

The wheelbase thing is interesting. They are listed on the wb thread as +2.87 or something like that, which looks very close to Aces and the height/width are supposed to be about the same, but somehow they feel like they make the wheelbase wider than that, like maybe somewhere between Indy and Thunder. I measured for myself and they were exactly as listed on the thread, so I assume it must be some other feature of the geometry that i don’t understand.

Anyway, they are ok so far. I may discover later that I love them and my heart will soar, but as of this moment they seem like they don’t really do anything quite as well as Aces or Indy’s and are kind of a middle of the pack truck. They do look pretty cool though. I like the print on the bottom of the baseplate and the design of the hangar.

I’ll update when I have some more time on them, or if my fickle nature drives me to write something totally different.

how wide are the 5.5s anyways? Also do you find the extra mounting holes are really close to the end of the baseplate? I feel like it'd be easy to warp them after sliding and then they'd start to catch when you eventually wore into those extra mounting holes, if that makes sense

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Two things, I got to push around with some homies and use the destructos for like 20 minutes, and I rode my buddies theeves (v2 I think?) and I kept feeling like I was gonna tip onto two wheels whenever I tried to turn deep.

Was there a big change from V1 -> V2 -> V3? Because turning on those trucks just felt off, they had some new-ish bones medium bushings and were just tightened up to the point the nut was flush with the kingpin so nothing weird about them. Any idea? Maybe it's just me.

The destructos feel like indys, that's really the best way to put it. Only issue is they're one of those trucks where bushings and washers all stacked on the kingpin give you like one thread to screw on the top nut, so you've gotta crank things down a bit so the top nut is flush with the kingpin. This means there's a decent bit of pressure on the bushings. I'm going to get some soft indy barrel bushings (or really any soft barrel bushing, whatever works) to get a better turn. I know they can turn well since if you don't screw down the top nut so it's flush with the kingpin, they feel pretty much like lndys. Once I actually skate them properly and give them a fair change with soft bushings I'll let people know wassup

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How was the pop feel on those suckers? I was about to setup a board with Destructo D2 but decided to try out my Ventures instead.

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Really good actually, they don't feel as tall as they actually are (like 56mm?). Just felt stable and snappy, no complaints at all in that regard, just be weary you might want to swap in softer bushings like what indy sells. On a side note how do you like you're ventures? The last time I skated some was when DLX redesigned the highs and I wanted to see if they turned better. I found that because of the drawn out WB they just couldn't turn as deep as I liked, wondering if that's still the case compared to other trucks.

Edit: I should note, for the destructos I only ollied around with them, but I gotta say I had no issues popping shit high out the gates. I feel like I should better elaborate how they feeling jumping around. I REALLY liked boning out high ollies with them, the angle you get when you pop (I assume from the height of the truck, WB and a bunch of other shit all together) lends itself to really boned out ollies. I don't wanna jump the gun and say it's amazing just yet though since I barely skated them and I'm gonna change the bushings out anyway since they're too stiff as it is. I might hate them with softer bushings and find them unstable when I setup and pop, but for now the pop is great, the turn with stock bushings is meh. We'll see what happens with some soft indy bushings

I messaged them the other day about bushing options and apparently they have some new after market bushings coming out to accommodate all those who skate a little bit looser trucks and those who don't like the stock ones. interested to see how they work. but yeah the bushings are pretty stiff for the first few sessions but name a truck that isn't.

[Sundaynuggets]

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Just got some Film 5.5 raws and they are pretty interesting so far (skated for two days). I’m just coming off of riding some Ace 44’s, so my judgement of the turning might be skewed a bit.

Yesterday, they felt really uncomfortable and slow turning first half hour or so. I tried all kinds of configurations to loosen the bushings up (washers, no washers, super loose, etc) and still felt like there was too much of a delayed turn. I know that obviously, the bushings aren’t going to be broken in right off the bat, but I didn’t really feel like waiting around for that so I got some Bones soft bushings. After that, I skated for about an hour and another hour this morning and the turn is fine. They feel fairly stable in the middle and pretty tight carving turns after that.

They grind well, so that’s not a problem.

The wheelbase thing is interesting. They are listed on the wb thread as +2.87 or something like that, which looks very close to Aces and the height/width are supposed to be about the same, but somehow they feel like they make the wheelbase wider than that, like maybe somewhere between Indy and Thunder. I measured for myself and they were exactly as listed on the thread, so I assume it must be some other feature of the geometry that i don’t understand.

Anyway, they are ok so far. I may discover later that I love them and my heart will soar, but as of this moment they seem like they don’t really do anything quite as well as Aces or Indy’s and are kind of a middle of the pack truck. They do look pretty cool though. I like the print on the bottom of the baseplate and the design of the hangar.

I’ll update when I have some more time on them, or if my fickle nature drives me to write something totally different.

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how wide are the 5.5s anyways? Also do you find the extra mounting holes are really close to the end of the baseplate? I feel like it'd be easy to warp them after sliding and then they'd start to catch when you eventually wore into those extra mounting holes, if that makes sense

I just eyeballed them quickly this morning but between that (on the same deck I was just riding Ace 44’s on) and what someone on here told me, they seem to be 8.35 (same as Ace 44’s).

Yeah, it does look like the baseplate will probably wear down to those holes at some point, but I’m sure there’s some way around that when I get there. Maybe filing the edges of the holes so they don’t catch on slides, or waxing the metal or something. Or, more likely, I will get distracted by some other kind of truck that I absolutely have to try out well before that point haha

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Two things, I got to push around with some homies and use the destructos for like 20 minutes, and I rode my buddies theeves (v2 I think?) and I kept feeling like I was gonna tip onto two wheels whenever I tried to turn deep.

Was there a big change from V1 -> V2 -> V3? Because turning on those trucks just felt off, they had some new-ish bones medium bushings and were just tightened up to the point the nut was flush with the kingpin so nothing weird about them. Any idea? Maybe it's just me.

The destructos feel like indys, that's really the best way to put it. Only issue is they're one of those trucks where bushings and washers all stacked on the kingpin give you like one thread to screw on the top nut, so you've gotta crank things down a bit so the top nut is flush with the kingpin. This means there's a decent bit of pressure on the bushings. I'm going to get some soft indy barrel bushings (or really any soft barrel bushing, whatever works) to get a better turn. I know they can turn well since if you don't screw down the top nut so it's flush with the kingpin, they feel pretty much like lndys. Once I actually skate them properly and give them a fair change with soft bushings I'll let people know wassup

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How was the pop feel on those suckers? I was about to setup a board with Destructo D2 but decided to try out my Ventures instead.

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Really good actually, they don't feel as tall as they actually are (like 56mm?). Just felt stable and snappy, no complaints at all in that regard, just be weary you might want to swap in softer bushings like what indy sells. On a side note how do you like you're ventures? The last time I skated some was when DLX redesigned the highs and I wanted to see if they turned better. I found that because of the drawn out WB they just couldn't turn as deep as I liked, wondering if that's still the case compared to other trucks.

Edit: I should note, for the destructos I only ollied around with them, but I gotta say I had no issues popping shit high out the gates. I feel like I should better elaborate how they feeling jumping around. I REALLY liked boning out high ollies with them, the angle you get when you pop (I assume from the height of the truck, WB and a bunch of other shit all together) lends itself to really boned out ollies. I don't wanna jump the gun and say it's amazing just yet though since I barely skated them and I'm gonna change the bushings out anyway since they're too stiff as it is. I might hate them with softer bushings and find them unstable when I setup and pop, but for now the pop is great, the turn with stock bushings is meh. We'll see what happens with some soft indy bushings

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I messaged them the other day about bushing options and apparently they have some new after market bushings coming out to accommodate all those who skate a little bit looser trucks and those who don't like the stock ones. interested to see how they work. but yeah the bushings are pretty stiff for the first few sessions but name a truck that isn't.

Hey thanks for the info man. Yeah most trucks take at least a day or something. Guess I'll wait for those to come out and see if they help a bit.

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Just got some Film 5.5 raws and they are pretty interesting so far (skated for two days). I’m just coming off of riding some Ace 44’s, so my judgement of the turning might be skewed a bit.

Yesterday, they felt really uncomfortable and slow turning first half hour or so. I tried all kinds of configurations to loosen the bushings up (washers, no washers, super loose, etc) and still felt like there was too much of a delayed turn. I know that obviously, the bushings aren’t going to be broken in right off the bat, but I didn’t really feel like waiting around for that so I got some Bones soft bushings. After that, I skated for about an hour and another hour this morning and the turn is fine. They feel fairly stable in the middle and pretty tight carving turns after that.

They grind well, so that’s not a problem.

The wheelbase thing is interesting. They are listed on the wb thread as +2.87 or something like that, which looks very close to Aces and the height/width are supposed to be about the same, but somehow they feel like they make the wheelbase wider than that, like maybe somewhere between Indy and Thunder. I measured for myself and they were exactly as listed on the thread, so I assume it must be some other feature of the geometry that i don’t understand.

Anyway, they are ok so far. I may discover later that I love them and my heart will soar, but as of this moment they seem like they don’t really do anything quite as well as Aces or Indy’s and are kind of a middle of the pack truck. They do look pretty cool though. I like the print on the bottom of the baseplate and the design of the hangar.

I’ll update when I have some more time on them, or if my fickle nature drives me to write something totally different.

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how wide are the 5.5s anyways? Also do you find the extra mounting holes are really close to the end of the baseplate? I feel like it'd be easy to warp them after sliding and then they'd start to catch when you eventually wore into those extra mounting holes, if that makes sense

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I just eyeballed them quickly this morning but between that (on the same deck I was just riding Ace 44’s on) and what someone on here told me, they seem to be 8.35 (same as Ace 44’s).

Yeah, it does look like the baseplate will probably wear down to those holes at some point, but I’m sure there’s some way around that when I get there. Maybe filing the edges of the holes so they don’t catch on slides, or waxing the metal or something. Or, more likely, I will get distracted by some other kind of truck that I absolutely have to try out well before that point haha

Really appreciate the info man, yeah I'm sure you could get around it, I just wouldn't wanna fuck around with stuff like that if I don't have to.

[whatsreallygood]

ALSO, does anyone know the deal between V2 and V3 theeves and if it was major? I'm still not sure, I found some old posts saying there isn't any significance difference, just wanna know if that's confirmed.

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Two things, I got to push around with some homies and use the destructos for like 20 minutes, and I rode my buddies theeves (v2 I think?) and I kept feeling like I was gonna tip onto two wheels whenever I tried to turn deep.

Was there a big change from V1 -> V2 -> V3? Because turning on those trucks just felt off, they had some new-ish bones medium bushings and were just tightened up to the point the nut was flush with the kingpin so nothing weird about them. Any idea? Maybe it's just me.

The destructos feel like indys, that's really the best way to put it. Only issue is they're one of those trucks where bushings and washers all stacked on the kingpin give you like one thread to screw on the top nut, so you've gotta crank things down a bit so the top nut is flush with the kingpin. This means there's a decent bit of pressure on the bushings. I'm going to get some soft indy barrel bushings (or really any soft barrel bushing, whatever works) to get a better turn. I know they can turn well since if you don't screw down the top nut so it's flush with the kingpin, they feel pretty much like lndys. Once I actually skate them properly and give them a fair change with soft bushings I'll let people know wassup

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How was the pop feel on those suckers? I was about to setup a board with Destructo D2 but decided to try out my Ventures instead.

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Really good actually, they don't feel as tall as they actually are (like 56mm?). Just felt stable and snappy, no complaints at all in that regard, just be weary you might want to swap in softer bushings like what indy sells. On a side note how do you like you're ventures? The last time I skated some was when DLX redesigned the highs and I wanted to see if they turned better. I found that because of the drawn out WB they just couldn't turn as deep as I liked, wondering if that's still the case compared to other trucks.

Edit: I should note, for the destructos I only ollied around with them, but I gotta say I had no issues popping shit high out the gates. I feel like I should better elaborate how they feeling jumping around. I REALLY liked boning out high ollies with them, the angle you get when you pop (I assume from the height of the truck, WB and a bunch of other shit all together) lends itself to really boned out ollies. I don't wanna jump the gun and say it's amazing just yet though since I barely skated them and I'm gonna change the bushings out anyway since they're too stiff as it is. I might hate them with softer bushings and find them unstable when I setup and pop, but for now the pop is great, the turn with stock bushings is meh. We'll see what happens with some soft indy bushings

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I messaged them the other day about bushing options and apparently they have some new after market bushings coming out to accommodate all those who skate a little bit looser trucks and those who don't like the stock ones. interested to see how they work. but yeah the bushings are pretty stiff for the first few sessions but name a truck that isn't.

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Hey thanks for the info man. Yeah most trucks take at least a day or something. Guess I'll wait for those to come out and see if they help a bit.

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Just got some Film 5.5 raws and they are pretty interesting so far (skated for two days). I’m just coming off of riding some Ace 44’s, so my judgement of the turning might be skewed a bit.

Yesterday, they felt really uncomfortable and slow turning first half hour or so. I tried all kinds of configurations to loosen the bushings up (washers, no washers, super loose, etc) and still felt like there was too much of a delayed turn. I know that obviously, the bushings aren’t going to be broken in right off the bat, but I didn’t really feel like waiting around for that so I got some Bones soft bushings. After that, I skated for about an hour and another hour this morning and the turn is fine. They feel fairly stable in the middle and pretty tight carving turns after that.

They grind well, so that’s not a problem.

The wheelbase thing is interesting. They are listed on the wb thread as +2.87 or something like that, which looks very close to Aces and the height/width are supposed to be about the same, but somehow they feel like they make the wheelbase wider than that, like maybe somewhere between Indy and Thunder. I measured for myself and they were exactly as listed on the thread, so I assume it must be some other feature of the geometry that i don’t understand.

Anyway, they are ok so far. I may discover later that I love them and my heart will soar, but as of this moment they seem like they don’t really do anything quite as well as Aces or Indy’s and are kind of a middle of the pack truck. They do look pretty cool though. I like the print on the bottom of the baseplate and the design of the hangar.

I’ll update when I have some more time on them, or if my fickle nature drives me to write something totally different.

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how wide are the 5.5s anyways? Also do you find the extra mounting holes are really close to the end of the baseplate? I feel like it'd be easy to warp them after sliding and then they'd start to catch when you eventually wore into those extra mounting holes, if that makes sense

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I just eyeballed them quickly this morning but between that (on the same deck I was just riding Ace 44’s on) and what someone on here told me, they seem to be 8.35 (same as Ace 44’s).

Yeah, it does look like the baseplate will probably wear down to those holes at some point, but I’m sure there’s some way around that when I get there. Maybe filing the edges of the holes so they don’t catch on slides, or waxing the metal or something. Or, more likely, I will get distracted by some other kind of truck that I absolutely have to try out well before that point haha

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Really appreciate the info man, yeah I'm sure you could get around it, I just wouldn't wanna fuck around with stuff like that if I don't have to.

No problem at all! I hear ya

[ILikeToMilkDucks]

Two things, I got to push around with some homies and use the destructos for like 20 minutes, and I rode my buddies theeves (v2 I think?) and I kept feeling like I was gonna tip onto two wheels whenever I tried to turn deep.

Was there a big change from V1 -> V2 -> V3? Because turning on those trucks just felt off, they had some new-ish bones medium bushings and were just tightened up to the point the nut was flush with the kingpin so nothing weird about them. Any idea? Maybe it's just me.

The destructos feel like indys, that's really the best way to put it. Only issue is they're one of those trucks where bushings and washers all stacked on the kingpin give you like one thread to screw on the top nut, so you've gotta crank things down a bit so the top nut is flush with the kingpin. This means there's a decent bit of pressure on the bushings. I'm going to get some soft indy barrel bushings (or really any soft barrel bushing, whatever works) to get a better turn. I know they can turn well since if you don't screw down the top nut so it's flush with the kingpin, they feel pretty much like lndys. Once I actually skate them properly and give them a fair change with soft bushings I'll let people know wassup

Yeah, the insane kingpin clearance comes with a cost, but in my experience it's best not to even make the kingpin flush with the top of the nut. I tighten them finger-tight and then do a quarter turn beyond that. Usually they're below the top of the nut, but still slightly past the thread lock material (does it have a proper term?) so they stay secure. Has worked with every Destructo I've ever owned. It's what I've done with my rail killers.

Skate them for a bit and really break in the bushings. Then tighten them up to be flush if you still feel like you need to. I'm pretty sure all of Destructo's bushings are the same 90a formula, but the low kingpin probably does make them feel heavy. I haven't swapped bushings to see since they feel fine with the way I tighten them - Easily get wheelbite if I dig into a turn. Maybe try the 88a red indy's? Might be able to crank those down to be flush.

Speaking of the rail killers - I haven't got to ride them much because it's either been raining or stupid cold, so I've been limited to garage skating and a trip to the store. Shout outs to destructo on the customer support again, I love their green bushings so they sent me the rail killers with the greenies in there instead of the stock black ones. Proper nostalgia rail killers.

They feel like my magnesium D1's in the turn, which I love. The pivot cup sits a lot deeper which I definitely prefer, so it doesn't stick out at all. Still probably a mental thing, but I would say they feel slightly more stable. I'm not a WB guy, at least I've resisted the temptation so far, so I'm not sure how that's effected. I wouldn't be surprised if it's slightly longer. Or maybe what I'm feeling is what the rep mentioned about them being slightly lower?

Destructo's claims about these being lightweight are no lie. On the deck they feel the same as the magnesium ones, so even if they are heavier I'm guessing it's not by much. The real difference is in the pop.

Compared to the mags they somehow manage to feel a lot lighter when you pop, almost snappy. I guess it makes sense with the baseplates design. I really dig it, though. I was surprised at how light they felt in ollies - It felt like I needed slightly less force to get the result I wanted. Not a game changing amount, mind, but definitely noticeable.

Sadly I haven't been able to test out the actual selling point of the trucks yet (you know, rails and ledges.) I'll have to update on that later.

Overall they feel like a D1 - not a lot is different, but all the same I don't think I'd go back to the mags any time soon. These are great and just feel good. Haven't noticed any problems yet. Might be a too-early impression, but I'm satisfied.

I forgot to mention - The rail killers I received have a hollow kingpin, which I definitely wasn't expecting since the image on their site has a standard bolt. That was a nice surprise.

[whatsreallygood]

^^^ Yeah I'm gonna break the bushings in a bit before I say much about the trucks. I have some soft ace bushings so I can just throw in the soft bottom bushings from there and see if that's loose enough, or if I want looser.

Edit: also the pivot cups on my pair of D1 mags don't stick out or anything weird either, they must have fixed that.

[Sativa Lung]

Whoever it was that said they had broken in their venture stock bushings after a single session - you're just getting started on breaking them in. They're harder than most stock bushings (around 94a) and it takes a while to get them to feel really good. Venture stock bushings are like the cute girl who gets straight A's still goes to church - you really have to be patient and put in some work but the payoff is great and once you get them loosened up you don't really have to worry about them.

Or you can go for her sister who has a drinking problem and a butterfly tattoo on her lower back and get a set of DLX supercush clears (88a),they're almost too loose sometimes but you don't have to put in much work to get them going. Been riding those in one of my 5.6 hollow setups and really like them so far. I'd actually recommend them over the 88a indy replacement bushings but they're not as easy to find.

I'm not sure if this is just in my head or not but with destructo stock I felt like they hardened up quite a bit when it was cold out. I skate D2 so I'm not sure if it's the same with the barrel bottoms but last time I skated them ir it was like 20° and I had to loosen them up like over a full turn to get them to feel right. If anyone wants a good non-bones aftermarket for the D2,Film bushings fit almost perfectly.