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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1380 on: November 02, 2020, 02:41:20 PM »
Been riding 6.1 V-lights for a couple weeks now and have been enjoying them. Have been feeling that the bushings don't have much of a rebound to them. In others' experience do the stock bushings firm up after a bit or would it make sense to swap in a conical bottom bushing or a set of bones bushings for a bit mroe bounce back?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1381 on: November 02, 2020, 02:50:32 PM »
Do forged vs. cast Ventures have pretty different feelings? I have a set of cast 5.8's from around 2013 that never work for me no matter what deck I put them on. Just feels awful when I throw my board down and start pushing. Have they changed since then?

Standard Thunders are my go to, but curious about trying some forged Hi Ventures

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1382 on: November 02, 2020, 02:54:55 PM »
all this dilo talk has me wanting to retire the forged hangers for a bit of an experiment...

my goal is to ollie one of the green nyc trashcans by the summer, i have the leg length to do it in theory. scratching my head on if heavier trucks would help the board keep coming up.

i dont know if its a conspiracy yet but i think all the pros with massive pop ride standards
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1383 on: November 02, 2020, 03:35:54 PM »
all this dilo talk has me wanting to retire the forged hangers for a bit of an experiment...

my goal is to ollie one of the green nyc trashcans by the summer, i have the leg length to do it in theory. scratching my head on if heavier trucks would help the board keep coming up.

i dont know if its a conspiracy yet but i think all the pros with massive pop ride standards

They ride what's free in the box...

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1384 on: November 02, 2020, 10:30:43 PM »
Do forged vs. cast Ventures have pretty different feelings? I have a set of cast 5.8's from around 2013 that never work for me no matter what deck I put them on. Just feels awful when I throw my board down and start pushing. Have they changed since then?

Standard Thunders are my go to, but curious about trying some forged Hi Ventures

Night and day IMO. Struggling coming back to Ventures after riding Thunder 148 Titanium, adjustment time of around 2 sessions I would gander to get the timing and pop back. the additional 0.25" to WB really gets to me on decks with a WB longer than 14".
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1385 on: November 03, 2020, 01:51:59 AM »
all this dilo talk has me wanting to retire the forged hangers for a bit of an experiment...

my goal is to ollie one of the green nyc trashcans by the summer, i have the leg length to do it in theory. scratching my head on if heavier trucks would help the board keep coming up.

i dont know if its a conspiracy yet but i think all the pros with massive pop ride standards

I dont think that matters to those pros lol, dont worry bout the trucks worry bout your technique you got dis

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1386 on: November 06, 2020, 07:24:39 AM »
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Thanks for the info! The drought forced my hand a bit, but I’m very happy with the standards so far. I like that the kingpin nut is flush and I am not getting any wheel bite. Also, it wasn’t until I switched out my old forged hollow indys that I realized one of them had a slightly bent axle. I thought something was off, but I suspected I was imagining it. Sure enough, after setting up the ventures, my wheels are rolling much better. I did that axle wobble test and confirmed the bent axle on my old trucks, as well. I’m surprised, I don’t jump down big shit anymore. Hopefully these standard axles will be more resistant to bending.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure my old 144s have a bent axle and I also don't jump down anything super high. You'll like the standard ventures. They hold up great and the pinch is something else. Not to mention stability.

Oh my word, you were not kidding. It’s weird breaking in new trucks after ages of skating the same set, but maaaan I’m really liking these so far.
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1387 on: November 08, 2020, 01:11:54 AM »
Just ordered come krux inverted kingpins. Current trucks are about done and im curious.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1388 on: November 11, 2020, 08:24:24 AM »
I got Venture 5.6 polished highs. Usually ride 8.5- 8.375 X 32.25. Hard to find something 14.25WB in those dims. Considering my trucks are likely forged will 14.5 fuck me up?

I've read past posts and I'm assuming the answer yes but I'm having a hard time accepting it. I need a reality check from someone/multiple people.

Looking like I'll have to size down the length :(.

Sorry to beat a dead horse guys.
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1389 on: November 11, 2020, 08:29:26 PM »
Back on 5.6's on my Generator FA setup (Gino deck can only have Ventures) and liking them so far. Good lock in. Pop feel is a bit on the heavier side, but way better than when I tried Indys. The weird thing is that they seem to lock in on 50-50s and 5-0's better than anything.

Briefly fucked with the bushings and didn't see the point of Bones or Ace. Ace didn't feel much different really, Bones just aren't for me I think.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1390 on: November 12, 2020, 04:35:56 AM »
Is there a height difference between the cast and forged plates? How high are each? Trying to figure out trucks for a 7.75 setup but there's no way I'd ride a 55mm high truck on a board that skinny and trying to avoid lows as I like to turn.

Tactics just shows them both as 53.5 but it feels doubtful.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1391 on: November 12, 2020, 04:54:08 AM »
Is there a height difference between the cast and forged plates? How high are each? Trying to figure out trucks for a 7.75 setup but there's no way I'd ride a 55mm high truck on a board that skinny and trying to avoid lows as I like to turn.

Tactics just shows them both as 53.5 but it feels doubtful.

Casts are 53.5 and forged are 52.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1392 on: November 12, 2020, 05:33:55 AM »
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Is there a height difference between the cast and forged plates? How high are each? Trying to figure out trucks for a 7.75 setup but there's no way I'd ride a 55mm high truck on a board that skinny and trying to avoid lows as I like to turn.

Tactics just shows them both as 53.5 but it feels doubtful.
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Casts are 53.5 and forged are 52.

Great, thank you!

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1393 on: November 12, 2020, 06:07:23 AM »
I got Venture 5.6 polished highs. Usually ride 8.5- 8.375 X 32.25. Hard to find something 14.25WB in those dims. Considering my trucks are likely forged will 14.5 fuck me up?

I've read past posts and I'm assuming the answer yes but I'm having a hard time accepting it. I need a reality check from someone/multiple people.

Looking like I'll have to size down the length :(.

Sorry to beat a dead horse guys.

Are you sure it has a forged baseplate? Either way, I think you’ll be fine. I put 5.8 polished high on a 8.5 deck with 14.5 wheelbase and it feels fine.
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1394 on: November 12, 2020, 07:18:11 AM »
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I got Venture 5.6 polished highs. Usually ride 8.5- 8.375 X 32.25. Hard to find something 14.25WB in those dims. Considering my trucks are likely forged will 14.5 fuck me up?

I've read past posts and I'm assuming the answer yes but I'm having a hard time accepting it. I need a reality check from someone/multiple people.

Looking like I'll have to size down the length :(.

Sorry to beat a dead horse guys.
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Are you sure it has a forged baseplate? Either way, I think you’ll be fine. I put 5.8 polished high on a 8.5 deck with 14.5 wheelbase and it feels fine.

I got them pretty recently and the same ones are described as having a forged baseplate on skate warehouse. Thank you for responding Janus!
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1395 on: November 12, 2020, 09:34:47 AM »
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I got Venture 5.6 polished highs. Usually ride 8.5- 8.375 X 32.25. Hard to find something 14.25WB in those dims. Considering my trucks are likely forged will 14.5 fuck me up?

I've read past posts and I'm assuming the answer yes but I'm having a hard time accepting it. I need a reality check from someone/multiple people.

Looking like I'll have to size down the length :(.

Sorry to beat a dead horse guys.
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Are you sure it has a forged baseplate? Either way, I think you’ll be fine. I put 5.8 polished high on a 8.5 deck with 14.5 wheelbase and it feels fine.
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I got them pretty recently and the same ones are described as having a forged baseplate on skate warehouse. Thank you for responding Janus!

No worries. I checked out the skate warehouse site and saw that they listed the OG venture highs as having a forged baseplate, but the venture site says polished baseplate. I assume you got lights or hollows?
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1396 on: November 12, 2020, 10:02:43 AM »
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I got Venture 5.6 polished highs. Usually ride 8.5- 8.375 X 32.25. Hard to find something 14.25WB in those dims. Considering my trucks are likely forged will 14.5 fuck me up?

I've read past posts and I'm assuming the answer yes but I'm having a hard time accepting it. I need a reality check from someone/multiple people.

Looking like I'll have to size down the length :(.

Sorry to beat a dead horse guys.
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Are you sure it has a forged baseplate? Either way, I think you’ll be fine. I put 5.8 polished high on a 8.5 deck with 14.5 wheelbase and it feels fine.
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I got them pretty recently and the same ones are described as having a forged baseplate on skate warehouse. Thank you for responding Janus!
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No worries. I checked out the skate warehouse site and saw that they listed the OG venture highs as having a forged baseplate, but the venture site says polished baseplate. I assume you got lights or hollows?

No, they are not. I've noticed SW shortcuts sometimes and uses a general template description for products. They are OG polished Venture Highs. No tech to them. I guess I don't need to trip then! I think I already did but I'm gonna make sure to give you a gnar bro  8) haha. Thank you dude!!
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1397 on: November 12, 2020, 05:31:23 PM »
Blacklist just got in a shipment of 5.6 v-hollows/v-lights if anyone has been trying to score a pair

http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/trucks-cid-113?Brand=VENTURE

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1398 on: November 13, 2020, 11:11:08 AM »
Anyone know where I can get the 5.8 in hollow or lights.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1399 on: November 13, 2020, 11:15:59 AM »
Anyone know where I can get the 5.8 in hollow or lights.

Parade has 5.8 lights

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1400 on: November 13, 2020, 12:30:40 PM »
pretty sure 5.8 hollows do not exist.  just standard, vlights, and titaniums

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1401 on: November 14, 2020, 06:04:48 AM »
I got Venture 5.6 polished highs. Usually ride 8.5- 8.375 X 32.25. Hard to find something 14.25WB in those dims. Considering my trucks are likely forged will 14.5 fuck me up?

I've read past posts and I'm assuming the answer yes but I'm having a hard time accepting it. I need a reality check from someone/multiple people.

Looking like I'll have to size down the length :(.

Sorry to beat a dead horse guys.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1402 on: November 14, 2020, 08:10:15 AM »
China has started making Venture Titanium 5.2 Hi counterfeits, specifically the 2018-ish P-Rod golden eagle model with the white graphic on the hanger.

4 dead giveaways for me:
1) These are a 2018-ish model but are sold as brand new
2) Sticker on the baseplate list production used the DD/MM/YYYY date format, genuine ones use MM/DD/YY
3) Sticker on the baseplate has the "pass these trucks along after you're done skating them" text, which to my knowledge only appeared in 2020
4) Price, these are $35 shipped to your doorstep, typically retail for twice that

Probably won't matter to most of you guys but I'm imploring your help. My buddy and I have been warning our local scenes about counterfeit Bones bearings, Baker / Crail / Toy Machine decks, Independent trucks and Spitfire wheels. No knocking anyone for buying or using them, they perform adequately or above their price. Our issue is online retailers and legitimate shops marketing them as genuine and selling them at full price. So we are doing our best to educate our local scenes: watch out for counterfeits.

Asking if anyone on here has a pair of 5.2 V-Titanium Hi, ideally the same model in relatively good condition. If you're able to send us pictures of how much they weigh, stickers the baseplate, general condition, that would really help out cause. We are doing a series of post on IG on how to spot the fakes and need photos for a side by side comparison. US branded trucks (especially Thunder and Titanium) are exceedingly hard to come by so your pictures would help us do a good side by side comparison.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001724255941.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.2adc2ab1hpORMW&algo_pvid=7d7ce43e-9b30-4d87-86c7-3964bc9bfc6c&algo_expid=7d7ce43e-9b30-4d87-86c7-3964bc9bfc6c-1&btsid=0bb0623f16053700747428162eef99&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

Here is a link for the trucks. The seller does not show pictures of their other trucks in sale but they are selling counterfeit Indys, probably some pressure from NHS' distributors to stem the flow to retailers.
They are also selling Venture x Thrasher 5.2 trucks with a hollow kingpin. Genuine ones only come in Standard.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1403 on: November 14, 2020, 08:33:43 AM »
Goddamn, good looking out. As an aside, any tips for spotting fake bones bearings and Baker decks? I trust the shop I frequent, but who knows these days, right?
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1404 on: November 14, 2020, 09:11:33 AM »
Have you asked the people at DLX about the fake stuff? I mean, it could be a fake but you can’t be 100%. How big of a profit do you think is being made by manufacturing and selling this fake stuff, to such a small market? It seems like it’s not even worth it. Maybe they’re factory seconds or blems?

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1405 on: November 14, 2020, 09:22:07 AM »
Goddamn, good looking out. As an aside, any tips for spotting fake bones bearings and Baker decks? I trust the shop I frequent, but who knows these days, right?

For Bones bearings just stick with your trusted retailers and shops, hopefully they aren't selling a mix of genuine and fake ones to customers to enjoy that sweet sweet dollar averaging. Avoid Amazon, Aliexpress or eBay listings. @Mbrimson88 swears the fakes use lubricant that has a distinctive smell. Don't have them handy to do the whiff test.

For Baker boards it was a select few models - original red + while logo, Baker Logo with pros names at the bottom (Kader, Figgy, Baca, Reynolds), haven't seen too many of them outside of Asia.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1406 on: November 14, 2020, 10:49:37 AM »
China has started making Venture Titanium 5.2 Hi counterfeits, specifically the 2018-ish P-Rod golden eagle model with the white graphic on the hanger.

4 dead giveaways for me:
1) These are a 2018-ish model but are sold as brand new
2) Sticker on the baseplate list production used the DD/MM/YYYY date format, genuine ones use MM/DD/YY
3) Sticker on the baseplate has the "pass these trucks along after you're done skating them" text, which to my knowledge only appeared in 2020
4) Price, these are $35 shipped to your doorstep, typically retail for twice that

Probably won't matter to most of you guys but I'm imploring your help. My buddy and I have been warning our local scenes about counterfeit Bones bearings, Baker / Crail / Toy Machine decks, Independent trucks and Spitfire wheels. No knocking anyone for buying or using them, they perform adequately or above their price. Our issue is online retailers and legitimate shops marketing them as genuine and selling them at full price. So we are doing our best to educate our local scenes: watch out for counterfeits.

Asking if anyone on here has a pair of 5.2 V-Titanium Hi, ideally the same model in relatively good condition. If you're able to send us pictures of how much they weigh, stickers the baseplate, general condition, that would really help out cause. We are doing a series of post on IG on how to spot the fakes and need photos for a side by side comparison. US branded trucks (especially Thunder and Titanium) are exceedingly hard to come by so your pictures would help us do a good side by side comparison.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001724255941.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.2adc2ab1hpORMW&algo_pvid=7d7ce43e-9b30-4d87-86c7-3964bc9bfc6c&algo_expid=7d7ce43e-9b30-4d87-86c7-3964bc9bfc6c-1&btsid=0bb0623f16053700747428162eef99&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

Here is a link for the trucks. The seller does not show pictures of their other trucks in sale but they are selling counterfeit Indys, probably some pressure from NHS' distributors to stem the flow to retailers.
They are also selling Venture x Thrasher 5.2 trucks with a hollow kingpin. Genuine ones only come in Standard.

"Factory storage venture 5.25inch skateboard trucks magnalium truck carbon steel kingpin skate truck"

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1407 on: November 14, 2020, 04:44:03 PM »
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China has started making Venture Titanium 5.2 Hi counterfeits, specifically the 2018-ish P-Rod golden eagle model with the white graphic on the hanger.

4 dead giveaways for me:
1) These are a 2018-ish model but are sold as brand new
2) Sticker on the baseplate list production used the DD/MM/YYYY date format, genuine ones use MM/DD/YY
3) Sticker on the baseplate has the "pass these trucks along after you're done skating them" text, which to my knowledge only appeared in 2020
4) Price, these are $35 shipped to your doorstep, typically retail for twice that

Probably won't matter to most of you guys but I'm imploring your help. My buddy and I have been warning our local scenes about counterfeit Bones bearings, Baker / Crail / Toy Machine decks, Independent trucks and Spitfire wheels. No knocking anyone for buying or using them, they perform adequately or above their price. Our issue is online retailers and legitimate shops marketing them as genuine and selling them at full price. So we are doing our best to educate our local scenes: watch out for counterfeits.

Asking if anyone on here has a pair of 5.2 V-Titanium Hi, ideally the same model in relatively good condition. If you're able to send us pictures of how much they weigh, stickers the baseplate, general condition, that would really help out cause. We are doing a series of post on IG on how to spot the fakes and need photos for a side by side comparison. US branded trucks (especially Thunder and Titanium) are exceedingly hard to come by so your pictures would help us do a good side by side comparison.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001724255941.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.2adc2ab1hpORMW&algo_pvid=7d7ce43e-9b30-4d87-86c7-3964bc9bfc6c&algo_expid=7d7ce43e-9b30-4d87-86c7-3964bc9bfc6c-1&btsid=0bb0623f16053700747428162eef99&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

Here is a link for the trucks. The seller does not show pictures of their other trucks in sale but they are selling counterfeit Indys, probably some pressure from NHS' distributors to stem the flow to retailers.
They are also selling Venture x Thrasher 5.2 trucks with a hollow kingpin. Genuine ones only come in Standard.
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"Factory storage venture 5.25inch skateboard trucks magnalium truck carbon steel kingpin skate truck"

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You can guarantee they will mangle the English language. I ordered a pair, see if they are legit. Also because I have an unhealthy obsession with counterfeit skate products.

SG$ 36.13 | Skateboard Trucks 139 Spitfire Hollow Kingpin Purple 5.25 Inch  Skate Metal Accessories High Quality Truck
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPfDm77

Just what we all wanted- Spitfire trucks in eggplant purple!
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1408 on: November 16, 2020, 01:45:28 PM »
Fickle old me set up some 5.8s again after hitting axle on my Ace 44s. Running the bones flat washer with some Indy 96a bushings and the turn is nice and deep with no wheelbite (even with my 56mm loopholes). I am going to try and stick with these for a bit.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #1409 on: November 16, 2020, 03:01:03 PM »
i'm wanting to give the 5.8s another run. tried to ride them on a sage fa board that i just never liked (too steep/couldnt vibe with it, my fault0. what board you running?