Venture 2020

[j....soy.....]

I'm prolly off on it but I alway skate all timers boards or shop boards which tend IMO to be less progressive than say a real board with kicks and concaves...

I don't totally buy the numbers theory in that I've pulled four III's off the wall and they are still pretty varied.....

[JugeL]

I think PJ posted some photo of couple sets of Venture lows this week with fuckwithyourtrucks tagged on it. Had some weird thing going on with axle nuts but i believe PJ still on lows.

[LebowskisRug]

I've always disliked that shape and I've skated it on everything but Venture. It's pretty short for the width if you measure it and I just don't get on with the kicks.

[LebowskisRug]

People seem to tinker a lot with the bushing setups on their Ventures.

I've had zero issues with the purple stock bushings on my 5.6 Hi V-Lights. They feel great, even after skating Aces and Indys for a long time.

Am I somehow in the minority?

Nah most people I know run stock it's just the top can shred fairly easily so some end up fucking with by default. DLX is great with warranty and I honestly just run flush with the nylock and never adjust them.

[Vintagebody]

I've always disliked that shape and I've skated it on everything but Venture. It's pretty short for the width if you measure it and I just don't get on with the kicks.

Thanks! Thats good to know Wont be getting that shape again no... I recall skating a 8.28 Mason deck too. Wasent that happy with it either. Passport, Alltimers and Polar have been consistently good in 8.25s and 8.3

[Sedition]

I think the vast majority of people are actually normal, they quietly buy things, use them as they were intended and don't talk about them....

none of them are here though....

I laughed. Hard. #truth

[LebowskisRug]

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I've always disliked that shape and I've skated it on everything but Venture. It's pretty short for the width if you measure it and I just don't get on with the kicks.

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Thanks! Thats good to know Wont be getting that shape again no... I recall skating a 8.28 Mason deck too. Wasent that happy with it either. Passport, Alltimers and Polar have been consistently good in 8.25s and 8.3

Sounds like you don't like short boards cuz the 8.28 is a really short one. I like the shapes from the brands you mentioned they are the generic BBS 8.38 a shit ton of brands and shops use.

[Mbrimson88]

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I've always disliked that shape and I've skated it on everything but Venture. It's pretty short for the width if you measure it and I just don't get on with the kicks.

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Thanks! Thats good to know Wont be getting that shape again no... I recall skating a 8.28 Mason deck too. Wasent that happy with it either. Passport, Alltimers and Polar have been consistently good in 8.25s and 8.3

Do you get to go into shops and check concave or feel of them first, or buy online?

Just asking, because quite often a lot of those boards being four to a press can be a bit more varied, so finding a more mellow one is easier in person, if the shop has a good selection.

If they don't have many, or you are buying online, then it is a bit less of an option for you.


Also I feel like the 8.38 is always more mellow than the 8.5 or 8.25 board shapes, like they use a different press for those shapes, as it has a longer wheelbase, so it is the longer press which might also be used for wider boards too, but either way, the usual shorter boards often feel steeper overall to me and that is from having a lot of boards come through my hands.

[rocklobster]

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People seem to tinker a lot with the bushing setups on their Ventures.

I've had zero issues with the purple stock bushings on my 5.6 Hi V-Lights. They feel great, even after skating Aces and Indys for a long time.

Am I somehow in the minority?

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Nah most people I know run stock it's just the top can shred fairly easily so some end up fucking with by default. DLX is great with warranty and I honestly just run flush with the nylock and never adjust them.

Stock bushings only, purple / red / green are best, white / black / blue and we may have to call the cops on you.

[richard00800]

I think PJ posted some photo of couple sets of Venture lows this week with fuckwithyourtrucks tagged on it. Had some weird thing going on with axle nuts but i believe PJ still on lows.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxR0xqdrIvM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
These footages are clearly hi's, and some more in is stories few days ago.

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People seem to tinker a lot with the bushing setups on their Ventures.

I've had zero issues with the purple stock bushings on my 5.6 Hi V-Lights. They feel great, even after skating Aces and Indys for a long time.

Am I somehow in the minority?

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Nah most people I know run stock it's just the top can shred fairly easily so some end up fucking with by default. DLX is great with warranty and I honestly just run flush with the nylock and never adjust them.

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Stock bushings only, purple / red / green are best, white / black / blue and we may have to call the cops on you.

stock bushings are the best
but kinda hyped to try some indy bushings. but purps/maroon have always been correct, and obviously the green with the feather lights.

i like to leave my ventures stock. when people were more frequently making the change to venture, and then complaining about the turn, i often recommended a flat top washer, and/or bones bushings. i’ve done that in the past, but stock is my preferred.
fuckingupwithyourtrucks is cool and all, but hasn’t helped me for shit. trying to make a truck that has obvious, strong, characteristic, behave like a totally different brand truck, with opposing characteristics….that’s where folks lose the plot. you can make ventures loose, and they are super fun, never going to be an ace tho. thankfully.

[Sedition]

...i often recommended a flat top washer...

My 5.6s should be here in a day or two. I remember hearing about the flat washer before, but remind me the function/purpose of this? Thanks!

[rikki]

What's the duro of the stock purples? I keep finding contradictory info online.

[JugeL]

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I think PJ posted some photo of couple sets of Venture lows this week with fuckwithyourtrucks tagged on it. Had some weird thing going on with axle nuts but i believe PJ still on lows.

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxR0xqdrIvM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
These footages are clearly hi's, and some more in is stories few days ago.

My bad, totally remembered those being lows

[rikki]

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I think PJ posted some photo of couple sets of Venture lows this week with fuckwithyourtrucks tagged on it. Had some weird thing going on with axle nuts but i believe PJ still on lows.

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxR0xqdrIvM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
These footages are clearly hi's, and some more in is stories few days ago.

What's he got there on the axle nuts? Allen nuts? What do you even call those? Looks epic.

[notinternetfamous]

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...i often recommended a flat top washer...

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My 5.6s should be here in a day or two. I remember hearing about the flat washer before, but remind me the function/purpose of this? Thanks!

the stock washer tends to bind with the hanger. the flat washer doesn't and makes the trucks turn a bit more easily (at least in my experience)

i typically run ventures with stock bushings and a flat washer as long as possible until i need new bushings.
for replacements, i like the deluxe supercush bushings. indy bushings work too, the indy top bushing is just a bit taller than the venture stock top. currently running the blue indy tops (92A) and they seem to be more durable so far, but i'm also doing a lot less slappies since I've moved

[notinternetfamous]

What's the duro of the stock purples? I keep finding contradictory info online.

all stock bushings are 90A regardless of color

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...i often recommended a flat top washer...

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My 5.6s should be here in a day or two. I remember hearing about the flat washer before, but remind me the function/purpose of this? Thanks!

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the stock washer tends to bind with the hanger. the flat washer doesn't and makes the trucks turn a bit more easily (at least in my experience)

i typically run ventures with stock bushings and a flat washer as long as possible until i need new bushings.
for replacements, i like the deluxe supercush bushings. indy bushings work too, the indy top bushing is just a bit taller than the venture stock top. currently running the blue indy tops (92A) and they seem to be more durable so far, but i'm also doing a lot less slappies since I've moved

what they said. 

if i take a few boards to a spot, it does happen, and i switch back and forth between ace and venture lo’s, i notice the lack of turn in the lo’s, comparatively. ace, indy’s, they can feel fun carving about. if i never ollied/flipped, i’d probably just skate indy or ace, or a polarizer or something similar.
what i’m trying to get at, is that you can loosen ventures up quite a bit, but i prefer them medium, better pop. and i’m not slaloming. i am trying to nollie flip going a little faster.


stuck somewhere in the back of my brain was a comment i read in an old mag, something along the lines of carroll noticing howard because he had made his ventures super loose. blockhead time period. so rick was maybe still high school aged.

[j....soy.....]

I just like conical bushings and think I get a bit more response out of them which is fun….I’m a light guy.  Stock bushings everyone tells me are pretty good these days and I don’t doubt that…..this forum in a lot of ways isn’t reflective to how the real world works……

[Sedition]

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...i often recommended a flat top washer...

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My 5.6s should be here in a day or two. I remember hearing about the flat washer before, but remind me the function/purpose of this? Thanks!

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the stock washer tends to bind with the hanger. the flat washer doesn't and makes the trucks turn a bit more easily (at least in my experience)

i typically run ventures with stock bushings and a flat washer as long as possible until i need new bushings.
for replacements, i like the deluxe supercush bushings. indy bushings work too, the indy top bushing is just a bit taller than the venture stock top. currently running the blue indy tops (92A) and they seem to be more durable so far, but i'm also doing a lot less slappies since I've moved

Thanks. Blue 92a is what I run in my Indys, btw.

[LebowskisRug]

To be fair the exact same washer issue happens with every trucks and even Thunders shred bushings. Thunders for me and my friends have also had annoyingly flimsy washers that tend to bend, so if you do replace bushings good luck getting back to your old tightness without crank and bending the washer even more.

If you look at the stock Thunder and Venture top washer both are sort of sharp and hug the top of the bushing more. Ace and Indy seem to be more blunt/smooth with a bit of a gap. DLX should likely change the top washers they use at the very least.

[hiljentaa]

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I think PJ posted some photo of couple sets of Venture lows this week with fuckwithyourtrucks tagged on it. Had some weird thing going on with axle nuts but i believe PJ still on lows.

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxR0xqdrIvM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
These footages are clearly hi's, and some more in is stories few days ago.

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What's he got there on the axle nuts? Allen nuts? What do you even call those? Looks epic.

Must have threaded a hollow axle to accept those bolts. Wild. Not sure I'd trust that myself hah

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To be fair the exact same washer issue happens with every trucks and even Thunders shred bushings. Thunders for me and my friends have also had annoyingly flimsy washers that tend to bend, so if you do replace bushings good luck getting back to your old tightness without crank and bending the washer even more.

If you look at the stock Thunder and Venture top washer both are sort of sharp and hug the top of the bushing more. Ace and Indy seem to be more blunt/smooth with a bit of a gap. DLX should likely change the top washers they use at the very least.

i think what i’ve noticed with ventures, more than other trucks, is the stock washer binding against the hanger, which limits the articulation. or something. the flat washer doesn’t do that.
turns out i don’t need to turn that much. just watched some william phan clips. that’s that shit i do like.


something about the thunder bushings and the thunder washers is antagonistic towards the lifespan of those bushings. but the trucks work really well so i stopped caring about it.

[Mbrimson88]

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...i often recommended a flat top washer...

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My 5.6s should be here in a day or two. I remember hearing about the flat washer before, but remind me the function/purpose of this? Thanks!

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the stock washer tends to bind with the hanger. the flat washer doesn't and makes the trucks turn a bit more easily (at least in my experience)

i typically run ventures with stock bushings and a flat washer as long as possible until i need new bushings.
for replacements, i like the deluxe supercush bushings. indy bushings work too, the indy top bushing is just a bit taller than the venture stock top. currently running the blue indy tops (92A) and they seem to be more durable so far, but i'm also doing a lot less slappies since I've moved

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Thanks. Blue 92a is what I run in my Indys, btw.

To be fair the exact same washer issue happens with every trucks and even Thunders shred bushings. Thunders for me and my friends have also had annoyingly flimsy washers that tend to bend, so if you do replace bushings good luck getting back to your old tightness without crank and bending the washer even more.

If you look at the stock Thunder and Venture top washer both are sort of sharp and hug the top of the bushing more. Ace and Indy seem to be more blunt/smooth with a bit of a gap. DLX should likely change the top washers they use at the very least.

Not sure about the newer aftermarket Indy bushings, but all the older ones that I use had much flatter washers compared to the stock ones, so I usually always use those and it pretty much sorts everything - the bushings that don't crumble or crack up and the washers that are not as deep so I have fewer issues with them biting the bushings, or binding on the hanger, etc.

[Meathook]

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...i often recommended a flat top washer...

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My 5.6s should be here in a day or two. I remember hearing about the flat washer before, but remind me the function/purpose of this? Thanks!

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the stock washer tends to bind with the hanger. the flat washer doesn't and makes the trucks turn a bit more easily (at least in my experience)

i typically run ventures with stock bushings and a flat washer as long as possible until i need new bushings.
for replacements, i like the deluxe supercush bushings. indy bushings work too, the indy top bushing is just a bit taller than the venture stock top. currently running the blue indy tops (92A) and they seem to be more durable so far, but i'm also doing a lot less slappies since I've moved

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Thanks. Blue 92a is what I run in my Indys, btw.

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To be fair the exact same washer issue happens with every trucks and even Thunders shred bushings. Thunders for me and my friends have also had annoyingly flimsy washers that tend to bend, so if you do replace bushings good luck getting back to your old tightness without crank and bending the washer even more.

If you look at the stock Thunder and Venture top washer both are sort of sharp and hug the top of the bushing more. Ace and Indy seem to be more blunt/smooth with a bit of a gap. DLX should likely change the top washers they use at the very least.

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Not sure about the newer aftermarket Indy bushings, but all the older ones that I use had much flatter washers compared to the stock ones, so I usually always use those and it pretty much sorts everything - the bushings that don't crumble or crack up and the washers that are not as deep so I have fewer issues with them biting the bushings, or binding on the hanger, etc.

I recently got new Indy 90a bushings and the washers were much slimmer than the stock washers.  It helped make up for the taller top bushing. 

I’m running them in 5.2 lows and they made the turn a bit smoother after blowing through a stock bottom bushing in a month.  I just hate the color, but I’ll get over it.

[Mbrimson88]

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I think PJ posted some photo of couple sets of Venture lows this week with fuckwithyourtrucks tagged on it. Had some weird thing going on with axle nuts but i believe PJ still on lows.

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxR0xqdrIvM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
These footages are clearly hi's, and some more in is stories few days ago.

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What's he got there on the axle nuts? Allen nuts? What do you even call those? Looks epic.

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Must have threaded a hollow axle to accept those bolts. Wild. Not sure I'd trust that myself hah

That makes sense.

I was looking at that thinking that would have been a real struggle, but if he has hollow axles, then it shouldn't be half as hard.  Also cutting off the extra axle that the nut is on would be mandatory too, so it is just the hex head bolt into the axle at the point the bearings with spacer room sits normally.


Silver or Grind King or maybe even some other brands have done this in the past, with similar things but I think this takes it to a much better level of tech and zero axle nut hits or shin bashes, compared to a regular board.

Given he would have a quantity of hangers, it would not be a problem if one of those bolts got stuck or something else happened to it, but for any other person, it might not be quite so comforting.

[rikki]

I've been using Ace top washers in my Indys as they are mellower in design and don't eat up the top bushing like the sharp-edged Indy top washers tend to do especially when cranked.

But reading this thread and upon closer inspection on my Ventures I just noticed for the first time that the stock top washer actually almost touches the hanger. Hence the potential problem is not the bushing but the hanger. Probably a thing that every one who is awake is aware of, but this was new to me.

Thanks for pointing this out, will keep an eye on this. Got some spare Bones top washers, might try them out and see if it feels any different.

[Sk.A.T.A.N]

I've been using Ace top washers in my Indys as they are mellower in design and don't eat up the top bushing like the sharp-edged Indy top washers tend to do especially when cranked.

But reading this thread and upon closer inspection on my Ventures I just noticed for the first time that the stock top washer actually almost touches the hanger. Hence the potential problem is not the bushing but the hanger. Probably a thing that every one who is awake is aware of, but this was new to me.

Thanks for pointing this out, will keep an eye on this. Got some spare Bones top washers, might try them out and see if it feels any different.

Yes, Flat top washer is a must have to unlock the full turning potential of your ventures. Riding them with stock washers feels like running with cuffs on your ankles.

[finecojeffe]

recently picked up a set of 6.1. First set of ventures in almost 30 years for me. I really like them a lot for their pop and for flip tricks, however I did a few slappies and now I've got axle slip. I haven't had a truck with axle slip in so many years so I'm a little bummed on that. Hopefully it doesn't get too bad.

[scab]

recently picked up a set of 6.1. First set of ventures in almost 30 years for me. I really like them a lot for their pop and for flip tricks, however I did a few slappies and now I've got axle slip. I haven't had a truck with axle slip in so many years so I'm a little bummed on that. Hopefully it doesn't get too bad.

It's been said a bunch: DLX warranty is usually top notch. Definitely recommend reaching out to them, axle slip ought to be a thing of the past that we tell younger generations about to illustrate how tough we had it.