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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5580 on: April 05, 2024, 09:57:53 AM »
i mostly skate curbs and occasionally when my old legs are feeling spicy i'll jump onto some ledges i'll say 65/35 split

i need all the help i can get with my pop so i really want to try ventures but the irrational stupid side of my brain is telling me my slappy tricks will suffer

can any awake individuals assure me i'll be fine or that the tradeoff is worth it and i'll ditch the curbs and become a ledge god

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5581 on: April 05, 2024, 10:23:55 AM »
Slappies on Venture will not suffer, at all; just dial in the tight/loose level and you'll be fine. There will be an adjustment period no matter what based on the truck you're currently used too? Which are what?

I slappy a lot, but also ollie shit, flatground, ledges, whatever and I would rather have a board that does it all than something that is 'slappy' only.

Don't let the Indy/ACE 10" Egg with rails crowd tell you any different ;) they're (most of them) the ones that gave up doing other shit on the regular.

You can slappy with any setup but I find I lose tricks with 'slappy' setups as they're usually bigger, wider, longer and heavier making flip tricks more inconsistent.


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5582 on: April 05, 2024, 10:48:26 AM »
i mostly skate curbs and occasionally when my old legs are feeling spicy i'll jump onto some ledges i'll say 65/35 split

i need all the help i can get with my pop so i really want to try ventures but the irrational stupid side of my brain is telling me my slappy tricks will suffer

can any awake individuals assure me i'll be fine or that the tradeoff is worth it and i'll ditch the curbs and become a ledge god

Maybe Kader cast v lites. I'm pretty sure pals be selling on the classifieds board. Then you don't gotta feel bad if you don't use um.

I would recommend a hollow Venture as a first Venture truck. Get the pop feel without the weight.

The thunder pop feel is similar too. So if you've riden thunder you already know how a v hollow feels when striking your tale.

I wish I took advantage of the Kader cast.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5583 on: April 05, 2024, 12:30:23 PM »
i mostly skate curbs and occasionally when my old legs are feeling spicy i'll jump onto some ledges i'll say 65/35 split

i need all the help i can get with my pop so i really want to try ventures but the irrational stupid side of my brain is telling me my slappy tricks will suffer

can any awake individuals assure me i'll be fine or that the tradeoff is worth it and i'll ditch the curbs and become a ledge god

You'll either love em or hate em, but there is only one way to find out.  I personally like them because I like the extra heft.  Probably just muscle memory for me, but other trucks make my board feel too light.  I also feel like Ventures have the best balance point for manuals, but once again. That is probably my muscle memory.  If you do try them, don't give up on them right away.  It may take some time.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5584 on: April 05, 2024, 12:35:28 PM »
Slappies on Venture will not suffer, at all; just dial in the tight/loose level and you'll be fine. There will be an adjustment period no matter what based on the truck you're currently used too? Which are what?

I slappy a lot, but also ollie shit, flatground, ledges, whatever and I would rather have a board that does it all than something that is 'slappy' only.

Don't let the Indy/ACE 10" Egg with rails crowd tell you any different ;) they're (most of them) the ones that gave up doing other shit on the regular.

You can slappy with any setup but I find I lose tricks with 'slappy' setups as they're usually bigger, wider, longer and heavier making flip tricks more inconsistent.

Very accurate information

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5585 on: April 05, 2024, 02:22:54 PM »
Thanks all I just ordered venture hollows purple bushings

I been on Indy hollow 149s on 8.5 deck and I have no problems in particular with them they’re a solid 7.5/10 on everything but im having a case of the grass being greener


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5586 on: April 05, 2024, 04:05:26 PM »
i couldnt imagine skating a 55mm truck
and enjoying it
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5587 on: April 06, 2024, 01:23:54 AM »

Don't let the Indy/ACE 10" Egg with rails crowd tell you any different ;) they're (most of them) the ones that gave up doing other shit on the regular.


Yeah fuck that shit for me, it's all good if the peeps enjoy it, but I'm not gonna give up on being able to skate pretty much everything, which I can't see myself doing on a huge-ass egg with uber-loose wide-as-shit trucks. Maybe when I'm 60.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5588 on: April 06, 2024, 01:31:47 AM »
Thanks all I just ordered venture hollows purple bushings

I been on Indy hollow 149s on 8.5 deck and I have no problems in particular with them they’re a solid 7.5/10 on everything but im having a case of the grass being greener

You'll love the pop.

My friend on Indy 149 Standards stepped on my board (5.6 V-lights) yesterday to try out some ollies and was impressed. Of course it's not just the truck itself -- someone who can ollie for real can do it on anything, but for myself, after switching between Indy and Venture for a long while, I've come to the conclusion that the "Venture pop" is not just some placebo kool-aid. It's a real thing.

On my 8.25 x 14.2 deck my pop goes to shit with forged Indys. Same deck and Ventures -- my ollie is as good, snappy, solid and stable as it gets with my middle-age physical abilities.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5589 on: April 06, 2024, 03:09:31 AM »
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Don't let the Indy/ACE 10" Egg with rails crowd tell you any different ;) they're (most of them) the ones that gave up doing other shit on the regular.

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Yeah fuck that shit for me, it's all good if the peeps enjoy it, but I'm not gonna give up on being able to skate pretty much everything, which I can't see myself doing on a huge-ass egg with uber-loose wide-as-shit trucks. Maybe when I'm 60.

I'm mediocre all around, having a specialist shape isn't helping my mediocrity.

And I'm determined to avoid prematurely aging myself and being a stickler about what tricks I should or shouldn't be doing. I'll flipping my board for as long as these ankle ligaments still allow me to.
Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5590 on: April 07, 2024, 12:43:51 AM »
Just got my set of ventures. They’re 5.8. Going on an 8.5”. Trying to obtain tricks on flat this year.

Looks like one is a venture hi, and the other high af.


Do the taller one go on the front or the back?



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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5591 on: April 07, 2024, 11:09:44 AM »
Just got my set of ventures. They’re 5.8. Going on an 8.5”. Trying to obtain tricks on flat this year.

Looks like one is a venture hi, and the other high af.


Do the taller one go on the front or the back?



Unfortunately, they’re supposed to be the same height

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5592 on: April 07, 2024, 11:32:46 AM »
Just got my set of ventures. They’re 5.8. Going on an 8.5”. Trying to obtain tricks on flat this year.

Looks like one is a venture hi, and the other high af.


Do the taller one go on the front or the back?






That’s….weird….id reach out to dlx with that pic.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5593 on: April 07, 2024, 02:38:57 PM »
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Just got my set of ventures. They’re 5.8. Going on an 8.5”. Trying to obtain tricks on flat this year.

Looks like one is a venture hi, and the other high af.


Do the taller one go on the front or the back?


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Unfortunately, they’re supposed to be the same height

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Just got my set of ventures. They’re 5.8. Going on an 8.5”. Trying to obtain tricks on flat this year.

Looks like one is a venture hi, and the other high af.


Do the taller one go on the front or the back?




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That’s….weird….id reach out to dlx with that pic.

They’re both Lucien Clarkes I got on clearance. And they were $10 LESS THAN ONE Indy truck.

Honestly I’m not going to contact anyone about this, but you guys. Just thought I were being funny  :)

For my skating this won’t matter at all. Hoping to get a flip trick of sorts in the bag on this setup, before end of year.

Either way I put it on the front for less wheelbite as I usually run that one a lil looser.
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5594 on: April 07, 2024, 11:23:25 PM »
Has anyone just taken the washers off their trucks (the ones on the bushings) for a bit more wiggle? Or is this a ridiculous idea?
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5595 on: April 08, 2024, 01:16:49 AM »
Has anyone just taken the washers off their trucks (the ones on the bushings) for a bit more wiggle? Or is this a ridiculous idea?


Yes, it is something I often do for really light weight kids when they are trying to turn but just can't quite get there, usually the bottom only, but sometimes top too, if they are really, really light / small and just can't get the bushings to do what they want.

That is the cheapest and easiest thing to try if anyone feels like their trucks are not turning enough, easy to try with no problem putting the bushing washers back in when needed.


Some other guys I know run no washers on all their setups, stupid loose is maybe the best way I can explain it, but they like it and it works for them, so whatever floats your boat there.

That is a lot easier than sanding down / grinding down / cutting down the bushings just to make them looser - done that a few times and took too much off, or messed up the bushings, but I didn't mind with the ones I had - a good learning experience.


* To add, using the Bones or other flat washer, as some do on here, is a very good in between as well, which doesn't cup the bushing and keep it squeezed into a certain shape, more often just the top, but you could use it on any, top or bottom, as well.

Some washers from hardware stores are rubbish and bend far too easily, but others work well.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5596 on: April 08, 2024, 10:26:20 PM »
I run bones and flat washers and sometimes I think the best part is the washers…..conical bushings too give you more play too…..

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5597 on: April 09, 2024, 09:43:59 AM »
I run bones and flat washers and sometimes I think the best part is the washers…..conical bushings too give you more play too…..

I can only run bones hards these day due to weight but even they feel too tippy in ventures; it for sure opens them up a lot but doing so sacrifices stability (for me). Currently riding stocks w/flat sleeved washers and they're 100% fine.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5598 on: April 09, 2024, 12:58:44 PM »
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I run bones and flat washers and sometimes I think the best part is the washers…..conical bushings too give you more play too…..
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I can only run bones hards these day due to weight but even they feel too tippy in ventures; it for sure opens them up a lot but doing so sacrifices stability (for me). Currently riding stocks w/flat sleeved washers and they're 100% fine.

hards in the lo’s are sick.
never thought to try them in the hi’s.
if i’m being honest…im good with tighter trucks. i like the pop and stability of ventures. i’m understand that comes with less wobble, that’s fine. this shit is not a slalom. i’m trying to go 1.75 mph and mob the fuck out of a ground scraping nollie flip. i’m really out here.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5599 on: April 09, 2024, 10:55:03 PM »
I ride Ventures because the lack of turning allows me to be a loose(r)  truck guy…..life savers man….

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5600 on: April 10, 2024, 06:57:59 AM »


i definitely do slappies on ventures. if you go wider you get better turning. i have these basically as loose as they can go and the turning feels a bit tight still cause they are also an 8" truck. I feel like I don't have the thunders maybe as loose (sitting flush / stock) but this setup turns better than my 8.25" Thunder 148 setup. I don't think you NEED to have insane turning for anything - you can always put it loose enough so that it will still work pretty much anywhere you need it to and you get a nice turn. im sure theres ways you can fuck with the bushings to make it even looser but when you learn how to use it properly you will change your approaches a bit and it actually feels really dope and predictable.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5601 on: April 10, 2024, 07:48:09 AM »
yeah the ventures not turning is a lie, yall must have not seen me skate, contrary to what the other poster said this shit is in fact slalom
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5602 on: April 10, 2024, 08:38:56 AM »
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Just got my set of ventures. They’re 5.8. Going on an 8.5”. Trying to obtain tricks on flat this year.

Looks like one is a venture hi, and the other high af.


Do the taller one go on the front or the back?




[close]


That’s….weird….id reach out to dlx with that pic.

Flip it over look in the hole.

My one pair of 5.2s are miss matched. It's not rideable like this. Even with the tallest one on the front.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5603 on: April 10, 2024, 09:02:28 AM »
yeah the ventures not turning is a lie, yall must have not seen me skate, contrary to what the other poster  this shit is in fact slalom



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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5604 on: April 10, 2024, 09:16:21 AM »
i can make them go wherever with 98a bushings
if youre struggling with stock 90a, go softer
or work on your fundamentals
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5605 on: April 10, 2024, 09:41:18 AM »
I enjoy my local bowl with tight pockets and corners on Ventures. They turn hella great. As said above, you just have to be able to skate.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5606 on: April 10, 2024, 10:10:20 AM »
yeah the ventures not turning is a lie, yall must have not seen me skate, contrary to what the other poster said this shit is in fact slalom

Full agree bruv. I've made several pov videos of the turn. I m a throw it up now if I can find.

Armin said it best when I first tried to switch to lows. They turn but turn different. I fuckin returned them 10 minutes later. I couldn't even roll on them. It was hilarious af.
I felt like the biggest piece of shit walking back into that shop hat in hand. If there was one scratch on them or slightly discolored bushings I wouldn't have even tried.
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Now I could skate a low np but it is incredibly jarring at first. I had literally 30 or more years on Thunder so I thought lows but highs are definitely my shit. Way closer to other truck's turns and I like to be as high as possible yah dig.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5607 on: April 10, 2024, 10:34:48 AM »
I would definitely go low on a 7.75 setup. lol its funny cause i feel like I am actually not skilled enough to utlize the full potential of such a small board after seeing what dudes are staying on this setup after all the smoke has cleared. you need to have a good switch tre and nollie back heel otherwise gtf off there!!  ;D ;D  would be such an incredible setup to work on flip tricks for though especially as a senior citizen

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5608 on: April 10, 2024, 04:42:17 PM »
Do you feel cast or forged highs are better suited for flat kicks (assuming same wheelbase, fingers of flat, concave etc.).  More specifically 5.8's. Thanks!

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5609 on: April 11, 2024, 05:40:10 PM »
Do you feel cast or forged highs are better suited for flat kicks (assuming same wheelbase, fingers of flat, concave etc.).  More specifically 5.8's. Thanks!

Either. Wheelbase and wheel size would be my determining factor.