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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5820 on: June 15, 2024, 09:10:30 PM »
I use to rethread. Now I ride 3 washers. Problem solved.

My new 5.8s are fuckin to tight. Lol. I'm too lazy to change that shit.
It's not that big a deal till you try to really push like gotta go shit. Pressing down crazy pressure with your toes tryna take off and step off the board. Have to chase it into the street.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5821 on: June 15, 2024, 10:41:57 PM »
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HEY DLX

RADIAL SLIMS
VENTURE AFTERMARKET BUSHINGS

THE CROWD IS GETTING RESTLESS

AND THEY HAVE MONEY
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Can I add 50mm 97 or 93 DU

51mm Radial slims in a 97a soft slider...I'd die.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5822 on: June 15, 2024, 11:51:18 PM »
I’ve been skating cast 147 thunders on the dlx 8.06x31.8(14.38wb) and it feels great.
In the past I’ve skated the cast venture 5.2 Hi on similar shapes but not on the 8.06 I’m used to.
I got rid of the hangers on my venture set due to a botched re-thread job and a bent axel.

I’m wondering if I should either size down to a cast 5.2 Lo or try the 5.2 Hi forged plate(lights). If the forged don’t work, I still have the old cast plates to try.

I like the turn and pop of the 147 thunders.
I remember the turn not being bad on the 5.2 Hi.
The pop feel was comparable.
I assume the 5.2 Lo has a limited turn but probably sits closest to the cast 147 in measurements.
Are the hollow lights noticeable in weight savings or worth the extra cost?
I’m afraid the 5.2 Lo light might be too low for my tastes(risk of more wheel bite), but I’m willing to try the 5.2 Hi in light or hollow.

Ventures look much better than thunders especially in clips.
I’ve been watching a lot of Gino and Vince Touz footage and I’m itching to try venture again.
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5823 on: June 16, 2024, 12:22:02 AM »
I’ve been skating cast 147 thunders on the dlx 8.06x31.8(14.38wb) and it feels great.
In the past I’ve skated the cast venture 5.2 Hi on similar shapes but not on the 8.06 I’m used to.
I got rid of the hangers on my venture set due to a botched re-thread job and a bent axel.

I’m wondering if I should either size down to a cast 5.2 Lo or try the 5.2 Hi forged plate(lights). If the forged don’t work, I still have the old cast plates to try.

I like the turn and pop of the 147 thunders.
I remember the turn not being bad on the 5.2 Hi.
The pop feel was comparable.
I assume the 5.2 Lo has a limited turn but probably sits closest to the cast 147 in measurements.
Are the hollow lights noticeable in weight savings or worth the extra cost?
I’m afraid the 5.2 Lo light might be too low for my tastes(risk of more wheel bite), but I’m willing to try the 5.2 Hi in light or hollow.

Ventures look much better than thunders especially in clips.
I’ve been watching a lot of Gino and Vince Touz footage and I’m itching to try venture again.

I was thinking pretty similar stuff after bent axels. I had 5.2 Venture hollow light hi. Amazing trucks, light and tons of pop. Everything was good until axel bent. Was annoyed about this and got standard 5.2 cast lows. But I put the old purple bushings on. They actually feel very similar. I switched from 52 to 50 wheels. They are a bit heavier and I think that pop is little off but that might be just that I'm not used to them yet.

I was first thinking to get 5.2 V-lights that have solid axel, but got so good deal on lows that took them. If I don't like these in the long run, V-lights hi's are next. Not going to switch brand for street, the stability of the truck is just so unmatched...

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5824 on: June 16, 2024, 07:33:00 AM »
Supposedly someone smart sounding said on here once that hollow axles are stronger since the heat treating can also treat the inside of the tube vs only the outside for a normal axle. I have no knowledge of if this is true or not but my worst axle bends have always been on solid, lower trucks

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5825 on: June 16, 2024, 08:39:16 AM »
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HEY DLX

RADIAL SLIMS
VENTURE AFTERMARKET BUSHINGS

THE CROWD IS GETTING RESTLESS

AND THEY HAVE MONEY
[close]

Can I add 50mm 97 or 93 DU
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51mm Radial slims in a 97a soft slider...I'd die.

You ever put rollerblades wheels on? It's so fuckin fucked. Fast as all hell.
I would definitely ride a skinny softy once more. That would be my sub 54 ledge toy.
I'd put like 5.6s on a really short wb wiya big ass nose and just work on my v front noses all day.

Also switch flippers.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5826 on: June 16, 2024, 09:21:26 AM »
Supposedly someone smart sounding said on here once that hollow axles are stronger since the heat treating can also treat the inside of the tube vs only the outside for a normal axle. I have no knowledge of if this is true or not but my worst axle bends have always been on solid, lower trucks

Well, I'll see how it goes, now I'm on low trucks and solid axle. Or maybe I'm just too fat.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5827 on: June 16, 2024, 09:47:07 AM »
My logic was lower trucks I ride tighter due to wheelbite potential and especially back in the Venture low days when I was a moron child just jumping down whatever I'd often break a kingpin or bend an axle super bad before axling the truck.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5828 on: June 16, 2024, 01:45:51 PM »
Next time you order something online, keep buying axel nuts until you get that free shipping…….you deserve it.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5829 on: June 16, 2024, 08:05:00 PM »
They make a great gift for that skater who has everything……

I’ve mentioned this before…why doesn’t DLX level up supercush into having different shapes/heights…maybe some the perfect hardware…..Supercush is not a great name but I’m thinking Bronze meets….Thunder….

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5830 on: June 16, 2024, 08:23:31 PM »
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Next time you order something online, keep buying axel nuts until you get that free shipping…….you deserve it.
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Yup, been using that forever...what sucks is certain big[er] online shops stopped carry the the ML 4 pck (was 1.49) - you can still buy the indy 2pck for 1.50 each tho =(
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5831 on: June 16, 2024, 11:58:11 PM »
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Next time you order something online, keep buying axel nuts until you get that free shipping…….you deserve it.
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This is my favorite idea I’ve gotten from SLAP in a long time! Good looks
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Yup, been using that forever...what sucks is certain big[er] online shops stopped carry the the ML 4 pck (was 1.49) - you can still buy the indy 2pck for 1.50 each tho =(

Or order a 100 of them on Aliexpress and be set for life. I've got so many I had them out to friends at the skate park
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5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5832 on: June 17, 2024, 09:13:46 AM »
i made the switch to ventures from aces months ago and i have no regrets but i will say one drawback is grinding speed and distance

me and a buddy were skating curbs last night and fucking around trying to 5050 the entirety of the curb which is like 15-20 ft long

i was going faster than he was, probably gave it a good 2 or 3 more pushes than him on the run up and he still was grinding more of it than i was and in the footage i slow down almost immediately after getting on whereas he maintains the same speed on the curb

it's not enough to make me switch back, i mean i'm not regularly trying to haul ass and slappy the longest 5050 possible but just wanted to say that it's a real thing
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5833 on: June 17, 2024, 10:23:43 AM »
well, wax the curb, do another push, sit back a bit further? I mean it can suck on chunkier ledges, but you just gotta really put the foot into whichever end is grinding

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5834 on: June 17, 2024, 10:31:38 AM »
maybe it’s the metal, but always assumed it was the hanger shape that caused ventures to really bite in, not grind as far.
the ace classics were soft as shit, and would grind on chuuuuunky ledges. didn’t spend enough time on the af1s, but assumed the hanger shape would make for
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5835 on: June 17, 2024, 11:23:27 AM »
well, wax the curb, do another push, sit back a bit further? I mean it can suck on chunkier ledges, but you just gotta really put the foot into whichever end is grinding

Right, that’s my point - you gotta modify how you skate if you want to grind further and faster, some people won’t want to do that if there are other trucks that can do it without needing to push more and sit back

I’m not one of those people I like all the other advantages that venture gives you more than I dislike it not grinding as well on chunky things

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5836 on: June 17, 2024, 06:25:30 PM »
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well, wax the curb, do another push, sit back a bit further? I mean it can suck on chunkier ledges, but you just gotta really put the foot into whichever end is grinding
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Right, that’s my point - you gotta modify how you skate if you want to grind further and faster, some people won’t want to do that if there are other trucks that can do it without needing to push more and sit back

I’m not one of those people I like all the other advantages that venture gives you more than I dislike it not grinding as well on chunky things

The advantages are well worth an extra push.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5837 on: June 17, 2024, 08:26:30 PM »
i made the switch to ventures from aces months ago and i have no regrets but i will say one drawback is grinding speed and distance

me and a buddy were skating curbs last night and fucking around trying to 5050 the entirety of the curb which is like 15-20 ft long

i was going faster than he was, probably gave it a good 2 or 3 more pushes than him on the run up and he still was grinding more of it than i was and in the footage i slow down almost immediately after getting on whereas he maintains the same speed on the curb

it's not enough to make me switch back, i mean i'm not regularly trying to haul ass and slappy the longest 5050 possible but just wanted to say that it's a real thing

With Venture it sits on the block different than others trucks too. Speed and leaning forward for 50s helps.
When I'm really going strong. My back truck is barely touching. When I back 50 is almost nose grinder but the wheels down. I get the nice gullwing groove going with a five oh round off on the outside of the hanger I'm cooking.

If I had a good camera I post the grooves of my last trucks they're f****** sick.

I think it's because of the wheelbase and the thinner hanger tinnier  metal that there slightly more friction with this truck so I lead my board more. Unless 5oh obv. I do the opposite.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5838 on: June 20, 2024, 05:35:05 PM »
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HEY DLX

RADIAL SLIMS
VENTURE AFTERMARKET BUSHINGS

THE CROWD IS GETTING RESTLESS

AND THEY HAVE MONEY
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Can I add 50mm 97 or 93 DU

Also bring back the loose trucks conversion kit. I wanna try it out and also really want green bushings
I wanna crap in a box just to mail it to you so your bitch ass can smell it

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5839 on: June 20, 2024, 08:34:11 PM »
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well, wax the curb, do another push, sit back a bit further? I mean it can suck on chunkier ledges, but you just gotta really put the foot into whichever end is grinding
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Right, that’s my point - you gotta modify how you skate if you want to grind further and faster, some people won’t want to do that if there are other trucks that can do it without needing to push more and sit back

I’m not one of those people I like all the other advantages that venture gives you more than I dislike it not grinding as well on chunky things

Dude it's not like re learning a technical flip trick you simply lean slightly more. It's legitimately maybe 1-3 attempts of a trick to learn. If your tricks are so fragile that this makes or breaks them then you didn't really have them in the first place.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5840 on: June 20, 2024, 09:18:25 PM »
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well, wax the curb, do another push, sit back a bit further? I mean it can suck on chunkier ledges, but you just gotta really put the foot into whichever end is grinding
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Right, that’s my point - you gotta modify how you skate if you want to grind further and faster, some people won’t want to do that if there are other trucks that can do it without needing to push more and sit back

I’m not one of those people I like all the other advantages that venture gives you more than I dislike it not grinding as well on chunky things
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Dude it's not like re learning a technical flip trick you simply lean slightly more. It's legitimately maybe 1-3 attempts of a trick to learn. If your tricks are so fragile that this makes or breaks them then you didn't really have them in the first place.

i, and ‘my tricks’, are nothing if not fragile



***and i totally agree: if i have to have everything just so, setup wise, to do a specific trick, well, it’s not the equipment.
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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5841 on: June 20, 2024, 10:41:39 PM »
I think the alloy is harder….….they definitely don’t grind as well….i thought thunders were same factory but maybe different alloys….

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5842 on: June 21, 2024, 06:16:23 AM »
Set up a Christmas complete and finally tried Ventures (6.1 on deck with 14.25 wheelbase).

I read that ACE low bushings work in a these. Tried the hard ones and still got wheel bite with three threads showing (the joys of being 240lbs).

Here’s what worked for me: Indy hard bottom, Ace hard top (standard height). Now only one thread is showing on both trucks and there’s no wheel bite.

Overall these are solid trucks. Turn is different than Indy, but far from terrible. And my small bag of tricks worked without a hitch.


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5843 on: June 21, 2024, 09:33:30 AM »
I think the Ace lo's are an alternative to the loose truck ones....sick to hear you found what works for you, and it's good intel.  My impression is Indy aftermarket products are overall pretty good.  I know some heavier dudes who can and still want to throw their weight around skating transition and Ventures work for that. 


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5844 on: June 21, 2024, 09:40:09 AM »
Set up a Christmas complete and finally tried Ventures (6.1 on deck with 14.25 wheelbase).

I read that ACE low bushings work in a these. Tried the hard ones and still got wheel bite with three threads showing (the joys of being 240lbs).

Here’s what worked for me: Indy hard bottom, Ace hard top (standard height). Now only one thread is showing on both trucks and there’s no wheel bite.

Overall these are solid trucks. Turn is different than Indy, but far from terrible. And my small bag of tricks worked without a hitch.



Hell, I'm 188 ish and 100s are too soft for, I couldn't imagine what I'd do with 60lbs more..that shit would be cranked AF.

It's only a few duro, but Slappy bushings come in 100a (6 duro harder than the ACE top) and fit perfectly, exact same height top and bottom. Not a lot of super hard options out there. Did you try bones? the 96a Indy (yellow) are bricks, I swear they're harder than 96a.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5845 on: June 21, 2024, 10:17:16 AM »
@ j....soy..... Yeah, the Ace lows in them are loose no matter what 😅

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Set up a Christmas complete and finally tried Ventures (6.1 on deck with 14.25 wheelbase).

I read that ACE low bushings work in a these. Tried the hard ones and still got wheel bite with three threads showing (the joys of being 240lbs).

Here’s what worked for me: Indy hard bottom, Ace hard top (standard height). Now only one thread is showing on both trucks and there’s no wheel bite.

Overall these are solid trucks. Turn is different than Indy, but far from terrible. And my small bag of tricks worked without a hitch.


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Hell, I'm 188 ish and 100s are too soft for, I couldn't imagine what I'd do with 60lbs more..that shit would be cranked AF.

It's only a few duro, but Slappy bushings come in 100a (6 duro harder than the ACE top) and fit perfectly, exact same height top and bottom. Not a lot of super hard options out there. Did you try bones? the 96a Indy (yellow) are bricks, I swear they're harder than 96a.
I tried Bones in Indy’s back in 2022. But took them out cause they were squeaky (and I hated how they looked lol). 

I’ll check out the Slappy’s if these don’t work.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5846 on: June 21, 2024, 03:24:22 PM »
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HEY DLX

RADIAL SLIMS
VENTURE AFTERMARKET BUSHINGS

THE CROWD IS GETTING RESTLESS

AND THEY HAVE MONEY
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Can I add 50mm 97 or 93 DU
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Also bring back the loose trucks conversion kit. I wanna try it out and also really want green bushings

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5847 on: June 22, 2024, 04:35:41 AM »
Had a second session on my 6.1s this morning. Two sets of hard bushings kinda felt like overkill, so I put the purple stock ones on the bottom and kept the hard ACE ones on top. And damn, these feel perfect now. Still no wheel bite, but the turning is more “surfy”.

Big thanks to everyone in these threads. Someone mentioned it’s better to have the softer bushings on the bottom if you’re doing the dual durometer thing.


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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5848 on: June 22, 2024, 08:18:17 AM »
May the lord/allah/xenu/joseph smith have mercy on that top bushing holy hell.

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Re: Venture 2020
« Reply #5849 on: June 22, 2024, 02:54:32 PM »
May the lord/allah/xenu/joseph smith have mercy on that top bushing holy hell.

Yeah that shits crazy. I'd still opt for a low harder duro than the ACE 94 AND slap in a flat washer.