Venture 2020

[Schinken]

Not a night and day difference but noticeable. I'm using 1/8" on the v-lights already.

[Sk.A.T.A.N]

Does anyone know, if venture changed their geometry of their "newer" trucks? I've been riding some v-lights 5.8 on and off for 2 years and recently got myself a set of standard 5.6 (black cast baseplate, hanger with venture logo)
Those 5.6 feel completely different. Better turn, softer bushings, almost like independent trucks. My 5.8 v-lights feel like super stable. Maxed out it feels like they turn way less.
I know v-lights extend the wb a little more than cast.

My theory on this is that Venture drills the holes a bit further back on the forged plates (V-lights/hollow) to compensate the lower hight and have a more similar pop timing on both normal and forged baseplates.

I ride V-hollows with Bones meds and they turn great imo.

[BeachChicken]

^ this is the logic brands offer but it doesn't actually work in practice. V Lights do feel like they turn a bit less for me as well and while they're really good for snappy, lower stuff, I don't enjoy them as much as cast all around.

[Unkle Fleak]

Does anyone know, if venture changed their geometry of their "newer" trucks? I've been riding some v-lights 5.8 on and off for 2 years and recently got myself a set of standard 5.6 (black cast baseplate, hanger with venture logo)
Those 5.6 feel completely different. Better turn, softer bushings, almost like independent trucks. My 5.8 v-lights feel like super stable. Maxed out it feels like they turn way less.
I know v-lights extend the wb a little more than cast.

They got the bushings down. Also they’re way softer now. Definitely a sign of the stylish times

[Unkle Fleak]

never had v-lights but i'm guessing they could be a lil less turny due to the height. it's not like a day/night difference, right?

They were for me. I definitely could feel the difference but this is back when bushings were spotty

[Mbrimson88]

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I had a message just now from a kind soul, re Venture 8 hole baseplate trucks from an Instagram story post from John Dilo.

Still there if anyone cares to go looking, but long story short, they are the new Koston Venture trucks, 8 hole baseplate, in a pretty box with a cool graphic on the hanger too.

I screen shot everything, just so at least I could look over it some more, but I am guessing there will be an announcement soon enough from DLX about them.

Looks like about 1/4" distance between the two sets of holes, so they fit fairly evenly, but just the fact that now they are out and with the 8 hole so people don't have to drill their own baseplates any more, it might make it a little bit easier to have more options with Venture trucks.

https://www.instagram.com/johndilo/


They are called the V8 truck.

[Fifty8mm]

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I had a message just now from a kind soul, re Venture 8 hole baseplate trucks from an Instagram story post from John Dilo.

Still there if anyone cares to go looking, but long story short, they are the new Koston Venture trucks, 8 hole baseplate, in a pretty box with a cool graphic on the hanger too.

I screen shot everything, just so at least I could look over it some more, but I am guessing there will be an announcement soon enough from DLX about them.

Looks like about 1/4" distance between the two sets of holes, so they fit fairly evenly, but just the fact that now they are out and with the 8 hole so people don't have to drill their own baseplates any more, it might make it a little bit easier to have more options with Venture trucks.

https://www.instagram.com/johndilo/


They are called the V8 truck.

We getting 8 hole venture baseplates, inverted thunders, and lock in fulls before supercush bushing restock.... shame.

[theloniousmonk]

I wonder if they will offer forged and cast, as well as the lighter options. Maybe like thunder they will start off with standards
Pretty cool that there will be even more contact on tail/nose slides with the added material. I’ll get these onceI need a new set for sure.

[tzhangdox]

More baseplate contact surface and increased material there sounds fire. More interested in that than the 8 hole configuration personally

[BeachChicken]

I get the best plate contact with Venture so don't need more but if these pop just a bit lighter than normal Ventures they're 100% my next truck.

[Mbrimson88]

We getting 8 hole venture baseplates, inverted thunders, and lock in fulls before supercush bushing restock.... shame.

Yeah you would think it shouldn't be that hard to bring out an assortment of bushings, in the same way Thunder has options, but who knows?!?

Maybe that feedback and info link from DLX home page should get a few more hits from people wanting bushings.

DLXSF.COM feedback link:

https://www.dlxsf.com/now-its-your-turn/

[Unkle Fleak]

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I had a message just now from a kind soul, re Venture 8 hole baseplate trucks from an Instagram story post from John Dilo.

Still there if anyone cares to go looking, but long story short, they are the new Koston Venture trucks, 8 hole baseplate, in a pretty box with a cool graphic on the hanger too.

I screen shot everything, just so at least I could look over it some more, but I am guessing there will be an announcement soon enough from DLX about them.

Looks like about 1/4" distance between the two sets of holes, so they fit fairly evenly, but just the fact that now they are out and with the 8 hole so people don't have to drill their own baseplates any more, it might make it a little bit easier to have more options with Venture trucks.

https://www.instagram.com/johndilo/


They are called the V8 truck.

Holy smokes those trucks look amazing. Go Eric

[Fifty8mm]

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We getting 8 hole venture baseplates, inverted thunders, and lock in fulls before supercush bushing restock.... shame.

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Yeah you would think it shouldn't be that hard to bring out an assortment of bushings, in the same way Thunder has options, but who knows?!?

Maybe that feedback and info link from DLX home page should get a few more hits from people wanting bushings.

DLXSF.COM feedback link:

https://www.dlxsf.com/now-its-your-turn/

Honestly, if you ride ventures, you need supercush bushings. They are 1:1 to venture stocks but they don't cut up. I've been using them for a couple years, same sets. Purple supercush for 5.2 lows was a game changer.
And the greens supercush on 5.0 lows and and all highs were amazing too. They rebound the best.

[rikki]

Thanks for the head up Brims. We are truly blessed.

[Mbrimson88]

Thanks for the head up Brims. We are truly blessed.

I have all the other pics, which I can post if people want to see them, especially if they didn't see the story post from Instagram.

Just didn't want to be plastering the forum with every angle in the hopes DLX would put out something soonish so they can show it all.

Not a worry either way to me, but it was pretty cool to see them on there.

[j....soy.....]

I just bought the Kaders too….oh well…I like that they listened to the people.  It is a smart idea now given how often nut jobs talk about wheelbase, it gives you the option to scootch down.  I like the idea too you can just move one truck ie. if you want a bit more/less nose or tail. 

[BeachChicken]

If it's .5" total with the original holes then that's kinda too close in and Ace territory. I'm not sure I'd want that short of a WB. Hard to tell from pics if they added material on the kingpin side of the plate. Ishods board pics show the normal set of holes and an extra with no material on the front of the plate. They probably added some baseplate on the other side so they still slid well when the wheels were tucked in.

[pointandclick]

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Thanks for the head up Brims. We are truly blessed.

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I have all the other pics, which I can post if people want to see them, especially if they didn't see the story post from Instagram.

Just didn't want to be plastering the forum with every angle in the hopes DLX would put out something soonish so they can show it all.

Not a worry either way to me, but it was pretty cool to see them on there.

please post them, id be stoked to see them.

[Bongwater Mojito]

If it's .5" total with the original holes then that's kinda too close in and Ace territory. I'm not sure I'd want that short of a WB. Hard to tell from pics if they added material on the kingpin side of the plate. Ishods board pics show the normal set of holes and an extra with no material on the front of the plate. They probably added some baseplate on the other side so they still slid well when the wheels were tucked in.

According to the "Wheelbase on your trucks" thread (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.msg3186379) forged Ventures are +3.5" and cast Indys +3", so effectively this would not be yet in Ace classic territory. Hard to say what's the actual effect.

I liked many things about Ventures, ollie pop comes to mind first, but at least the forged baseplates felt way too heavy to skate for my old legs.

[BeachChicken]

Cast Venture are +3.2 and forged are +3.35. If the holes move them in by .5" then cast are 2.7" vs Ace at 2.75 for Classics and just under 3" for AF1. So yes, they would end up in Ace territory if they use the original mounting holes and the product card posted on the last page that says each truck is moved in 1/4" is right.

Now if they offset the original holes and it's 3" that would be perfect.

[Xen]

More baseplate contact surface and increased material there sounds fire. More interested in that than the 8 hole configuration personally

It's kinda crazy they added more material to Ventures, which no one has complained about needing (I'm not complaining), instead of Thunders ages ago (obv they are focused on the new thunders that should have a revised/fixed plate).

Smart moves happening over at DLX.

[Mongo Lloyd]

Those Koston trucks are going on the list!

One of my machine shop buddies drilled out some baseplates for me, and I’m stoked I won’t have to ask him to do more.

[tzhangdox]

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More baseplate contact surface and increased material there sounds fire. More interested in that than the 8 hole configuration personally

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It's kinda crazy they added more material to Ventures, which no one has complained about needing (I'm not complaining), instead of Thunders ages ago (obv they are focused on the new thunders that should have a revised/fixed plate).

Smart moves happening over at DLX.

DLX probably just doesn't want to make any drastic changes to their best selling truck (thunders outsell ventures several times over), when 99.9% of thunder skaters are perfectly happy with the way they work and aren't gear nerds like us that care about something a little wax can fix lol.

[Mbrimson88]

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Thanks for the head up Brims. We are truly blessed.

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I have all the other pics, which I can post if people want to see them, especially if they didn't see the story post from Instagram.

Just didn't want to be plastering the forum with every angle in the hopes DLX would put out something soonish so they can show it all.

Not a worry either way to me, but it was pretty cool to see them on there.

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please post them, id be stoked to see them.

Ok, these were all the other frame grabs.

[Mbrimson88]

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Might be a little hard to see just from the pics, but I could imagine that if they did lengthen the baseplate a bit, it would be to cover the additional bolt holes sufficiently so there would not be the 1991 nose slide issues, where after a while, the whole bolt and front of baseplate would be gone.

The set I redrilled at 3/8 was really close, the set at 1/4 was just nicely clear, but with wear, that could get a little too close for comfort for some, or impact the life of the truck.

Hard to say until seeing them in person and comparing them to the regular baseplates, but I could see that could be why things were changed a little as well.  Also interesting to hear once people have them if they change much or still feel the same as other Ventures in the nose / tail slide options, but hey who knows.


I guess that is why Ishod has been riding them for a while now too, just to really test them out and then give feedback and who better than someone like him - current DLX team rider, so no matter if he is skating Thunder or Venture, at least it is from the same distro.

Any other info, specs and whatever else I guess will come out with the official release, but at least that should keep others happy for now.


* For the person who said, "Why can't they just drill it out right in the middle?" I was also thinking this, so to have a Thunder drilled Venture, (as well as a double drilled Thunder) it might be the best thing they could do, but then does that make not enough of a difference, or it wouldn't allow the option to go further forward or back, or with Thunder, would it just be too many options all at once?  I guess it gets a little funny there.

[Too Frank To Fred]

No Venture Offerings in the DLX Spring 2025 Drop 1.... Not sure what that means... if anything...

[Mbrimson88]

No Venture Offerings in the DLX Spring 2025 Drop 1.... Not sure what that means... if anything...

Page 72 to 78 is all Venture...

Maybe you didn't load the whole thing?

[Too Frank To Fred]

yeah could be. the PDF I have stops with Thunder.

also no mention of Venture in the intro section.

[boofactory]

Willing to do a side by side comparison of these catalogs. If y’all wanna shoot me both your versions I can confirm what’s going on here

[Fifty8mm]

I wonder how hard it would be to make a 8.25 (5.6) low hanger.
I'm thinking it's pretty niche but maybe dlx could do a pre-order and just make enough for those people that pay up front. If the minimum is not met, then they don't make em.
Pre-order through shops so it's no DTC and helps out shops too.

Edit: I'm fine with 5.2(8.0) lows but sometimes brands only make 8.25 of a cool graphic . In this case the Durao Drift deck. So fucking good.