Venture 2020

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This thread is smoking. I love living at old dead stock.

Also, someone asked what’s the best combo with ventures. In my opinion it’s been the Metal products. Especially the 9 with the 14” plus 5.8s. But all 3 set up of several shapes sizes and wbs. Those was the top. Also this Alien reissue Art blah blah blah. My friend gave me off his wall. It had a screen grab from memory screen in it of people with gas mask on under the UN flag and bunker. 

That particular ps deck was magic. I’ve yet to try fa or violet. I imagine all that shit is sovereign insect in nature.

I also really liked all the glue stuff I got. That was also a PS Stix big nose small tail stuff.

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haven’t tried metal, but the quasi/glue boards ps stix decks have been nice for me, with venture.
currently on a bbs gx board that has that big old alien nose.
agree with brimmer.


anybody have a deck recommendation for 5.2 lo’s? wonder what aimu skates

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Rec:

i mean….in my mind ross skate’s 5.2 Lo’s and he is an all timer

this board and recommendation are amazing

[Nymphicus hollandicus]

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Featherlite, superlite (mids?), current 5.0 low

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Wonderful selection you have there, are those 50mm tablets you have on the current lows?

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Excellent spread. 2nd'ing the question about the wheel size. They look bigger than 50mm?

Also if it's not too much trouble, I'm curious if there are any variations in how each baseplate affects/affected wheelbase. Could you take a photo of all three with the holes aligned and hangers off?? I don't know what gnarring is so here's one in advance. 

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Hi, not sure if that question was for me but I could try and take some holes aligned comparison shots with the three models I have this week for you if that helps? I don't want to clog up the thread with bad/possibly inaccurate wheelbase measurements though so keep in mind it'll just be a basic visual reference.

Also, as mentioned before and by others, there are more hanger and baseplate variants (forged/cast options etc.) which can all have an effect on wheelbase.

Cheers!

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Cheers!

Damn that's a good point about the hangers. Didn't think of that - those look totally different and probably throw off any wheelbase comparison without them. I guess a better way to do it would be from the side of the truck with the hanger on? Like a profile view. I forgot where I saved this attached image from that shows where the axle ends up relative to the baseplate holes... I've never tried to take a photo like that myself and it looks like it could be difficult. maybe not idk and probably not worth your time at all! haha

I did mean to reply to the other poster who has the three with all cast baseplates haha but all good! Also they look like they are banned

No worries at all, in terms of comparing trucks I would say perhaps setting up an old board as a measuring rig might be the best bet. Would need to consider how compressed the bushings are as that could have an effect on the hanger position too.

All the best!

[logjammin]

anyone tried these on a really short wheelbase deck with the shortest wheelbase bolt option and maybe some different bushings and can attest to how twitchy and surfy they get compared to the more well known geometries?

[j....soy.....]

I’ve skated them on a 14.25 wb and didn’t notice much change in the turning…

[Mbrimson88]

anyone tried these on a really short wheelbase deck with the shortest wheelbase bolt option and maybe some different bushings and can attest to how twitchy and surfy they get compared to the more well known geometries?

The easiest way to get Ventures to turn more is bring the bottom bushing up while reducing the top bushing height, most commonly with the Venture loose truck kit, which already has a lower top bushing and then adding a couple of flat washers under everything first.  It is not so much that they are loose, cause I could tighten them down to where ever I felt they needed it, but it was more just from having the extra bottom bushing height, the lower top bushing fit more easily.

This does make Venture trucks turn a lot more with a sharper / smaller turning circle than when on stock or any other options, but they still turn like Ventures, not quite like Indy, or Ace or any other truck, no matter what you do.

That said, yes bringing in the wheelbase will also make the turn quicker, so yes bringing in both trucks on an already short wb board is going to make them turn more quickly than before as well.


All the fun and experimenting with different this and that was good, but I could still turn more on Indy (my regular truck setup) than I could on the modified Venture setup, not that it was an issue, cause damn those Ventures sure did turn in a small circle when I leaned in hard, but it was a totally different turn to my usual board too, if that makes sense.

Using the double drilled baseplates make almost any board way more "normal feeling" to me, whereas before I would often feel like Ventures made any board almost unskateable but that is just me and I am used to a lighter tail and less angle, compared to people who are used to a heavy kick or steeper angle for their usual setup.

[Fifty8mm]

anyone tried these on a really short wheelbase deck with the shortest wheelbase bolt option and maybe some different bushings and can attest to how twitchy and surfy they get compared to the more well known geometries?

Tried this on a 14.25 dlx deck. It turned hella good but the pop was hella light. I hated it popping tricks but pushing around was hella fun. You get an immediate turn but nothing like ace. Idk like a tuckboat lol. I could see people loving it.

[logjammin]

thanks you guys. I was at the shop today and they did indeed have the V8's and some 6.1's as well and that's what I was thinking of trying for a new setup but I think I would just end up regretting it. I ended up getting some stage 4 166's cause even though the kingpin clearance is pretty much non-existent, I love turning too much. man those venture hangers look so good though, especially wider ones.

[codswallop]

thanks you guys. I was at the shop today and they did indeed have the V8's and some 6.1's as well and that's what I was thinking of trying for a new setup but I think I would just end up regretting it. I ended up getting some stage 4 166's cause even though the kingpin clearance is pretty much non-existent, I love turning too much. man those venture hangers look so good though, especially wider ones.

Haha dude I was just gonna say these turned like stage 4’s on a 14” wheelbase using the V8 holes. I don't have a ton of experience with them setup that way (because it wasn't my desired result) - I rode them in the V8 position for about 30 minutes on three different occasions but that's what they immediately reminding me of, the S4s and I rode those consistently for about a month. The S4s are probably built better for turning IIRC and I really liked the unique design and classic look. I'd be curious to hear your comparison as someone who is digging that level of turn... if you end up getting both haha

[codswallop]

Also it sounds like my experience was different than Brimson's if I read right because for me the S4s and Venture V8s were noticeably more responsive than Indy standards. The S4s reminded me right away of Ace classics which I believe was probably the point of rereleasing them. I happily went back to standards because they felt more stable/less responsive in comparison.

[logjammin]

damn! alright if that's true then damnit, now the madness is in full swing and I might have to drive back and get the V8's and the 6.1's 😂. the kingpin clearance on ventures is the best without having to invert or anything. I know people say slappy's but still to this day I can't get myself to look at those and not think of something you'd see on a complete at Target lol.

[Mbrimson88]

Also it sounds like my experience was different than Brimson's if I read right because for me the S4s and Venture V8s were noticeably more responsive than Indy standards. The S4s reminded me right away of Ace classics which I believe was probably the point of rereleasing them. I happily went back to standards because they felt more stable/less responsive in comparison.

Indy Stage 4 definitely turned a lot more than I was used to, but Venture just turn differently, so both were a little weird compared to my usual go to of Indy Standards for whatever reason.  Same with Thunder, which I could get used to, but just turned differently, until I added a little extra clearance - 2 mm riser and front truck wheel wells, which then felt good.

I think it also comes down to the board trying them on and other factors, the person size too, if that makes sense.

All up, I could get used to any truck, but like the few sessions I had on Ace, same as Stage 4 reissue Indy trucks, they made everything else feel weird as they both turned a lot more than I was used to.

damn! alright if that's true then damnit, now the madness is in full swing and I might have to drive back and get the V8's and the 6.1's 😂. the kingpin clearance on ventures is the best without having to invert or anything. I know people say slappy's but still to this day I can't get myself to look at those and not think of something you'd see on a complete at Target lol.

Remember too the Venture V8 will be coming out in all sizes, as per other people's comments here previously, so if you had to buy two sets of trucks to make up something such as a set of V8 6.1 waiting for them to come out as that might be more worthwhile.


* Note:  This is also all down to personal experience, just messing round with things, so although I like to try this and that, I do still have my preferences and measure everything against that, even though I often try not to.  It is good that people do experiment with things just to see what works best for them, although having to buy a whole lot of product (especially if you are doing so at retail prices) is something that might not sit so well for some people.  I am lucky there, because I do a lot of swap and trades too, so I have a lot more stuff to mess around with, combined with my little shop I can use product from as well.

[ambiguousclarity]

I set up a new board with lightly used 5.8 v lights I bought off depop. Switched over the bushings from my old standard 6.1s and was surprised that the 5.8s felt nothing like my old set up. I had to loosen the kingpin nut well above the kingpin to get close to the same turn, but it was still too tight. I was skating in light rain so only lasted 45-60 mins, but they didn't loosen up. I was wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience between Ventures? When setting up the board, I noticed that the 5.8s didn't have the size on the bottom of the hangers and I was wondering if they might be fakes.

[Mbrimson88]

I set up a new board with lightly used 5.8 v lights today I bought off depop. Switched over the bushings from my old standard 6.1s and was surprised that the 5.8s felt nothing like my old set up. I had to loosen the kingpin nut well above the kingpin to get close to the same turn, but it was still was too tight. I was skating in light rain so only lasted 45-60 mins, but they didn't loosen up. I was wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience when changing Ventures? When setting up the board, I noticed that the 5.8s didn't have the size on the bottom of the hangers and I was wondering if they might be fakes.

The older ones I had just had two dots in the area where the numbers are now, so the number such as 5.8H has only been around for a short while, compared to everything else.

Generally I feel like things have changed a little here and there, but other people have said that the 6.1 version of the truck does skate differently to the other sizes.

Maybe too, standard 6.1 changing to forged baseplate 5.8 is a bit of a difference, so trying the hangers only on the other trucks, even just to see what it feels like, first.

Forged baseplates do make things feel quite different - lower and the wheelbase is pushed out more, but I haven't looked into the bushing or different arrangement much besides just adding some wax to the pivot cup and maybe a little round the rim of the hanger where the bushings touch, which really makes everything so much more loose feeling.  Only just the smallest amount on your finger and run it round, then try it again, cause it really does make things feel totally different for a bit.


All those things first, then see how it goes.

[munchbox]

karim callender pro trucks



he rides 8.38/5.6 hollows if i remember correctly

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I set up a new board with lightly used 5.8 v lights today I bought off depop. Switched over the bushings from my old standard 6.1s and was surprised that the 5.8s felt nothing like my old set up. I had to loosen the kingpin nut well above the kingpin to get close to the same turn, but it was still was too tight. I was skating in light rain so only lasted 45-60 mins, but they didn't loosen up. I was wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience when changing Ventures? When setting up the board, I noticed that the 5.8s didn't have the size on the bottom of the hangers and I was wondering if they might be fakes.

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The older ones I had just had two dots in the area where the numbers are now, so the number such as 5.8H has only been around for a short while, compared to everything else.

Generally I feel like things have changed a little here and there, but other people have said that the 6.1 version of the truck does skate differently to the other sizes.

Maybe too, standard 6.1 changing to forged baseplate 5.8 is a bit of a difference, so trying the hangers only on the other trucks, even just to see what it feels like, first.

Forged baseplates do make things feel quite different - lower and the wheelbase is pushed out more, but I haven't looked into the bushing or different arrangement much besides just adding some wax to the pivot cup and maybe a little round the rim of the hanger where the bushings touch, which really makes everything so much more loose feeling.  Only just the smallest amount on your finger and run it round, then try it again, cause it really does make things feel totally different for a bit.


All those things first, then see how it goes.

Thanks Mbrimson88. I did consider switching the hangers over to the standard baseplate, but gave my old set up to a kid at the skatepark. I skated for a few hours this morning and put in softer bushings which made a slight difference. They were still tighter than I would like. It might be the difference between the 6.1 and 5.8 with forged baseplates. I've got several mixed bags of bushing I'll play around with to see if I can get a similar feeling. I'll adjust to them. Might have to up my slappies to get through them faster and get back on the 6.1s.

[munchbox]

6.1s are the truth
literally the better 5.8s if you arent ocd with sizing

[Mbrimson88]

Thanks Mbrimson88. I did consider switching the hangers over to the standard baseplate, but gave my old set up to a kid at the skatepark. I skated for a few hours this morning and put in softer bushings which made a slight difference. They were still tighter than I would like. It might be the difference between the 6.1 and 5.8 with forged baseplates. I've got several mixed bags of bushing I'll play around with to see if I can get a similar feeling. I'll adjust to them. Might have to up my slappies to get through them faster and get back on the 6.1s.

Try the wax thing, just rub your finger on it, then run your finger round the inside of the hanger yoke on one truck and see if that makes things feel easier.  Just the front truck even, as I usually have the front a little easier than the back.

Not the be all and end all, but it can definitely help with making trucks feel a little more "normal" if they haven't been used / cleaned / feeling stiff and weird.

[Sondor]

6.1s are the truth
literally the better 5.8s if you arent ocd with sizing

Better in what respect? I've only skate two pair of 6.1's, but want to try out 5.8's for easier flip
read here here that 6.1's push the wheelbse out by 3.125", while other sizes by 3.2"

[rocklobster]

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6.1s are the truth
literally the better 5.8s if you arent ocd with sizing

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Better in what respect? I've only skate two pair of 6.1's, but want to try out 5.8's for easier flip
read here here that 6.1's push the wheelbse out by 3.125", while other sizes by 3.2"

Yes, more details please for a Venture lifer. I have 2 pairs of 6.1 hollows on ice, if I could consistently find 8.75 twins I'd love to give the 6.1s a shot and my 5.8s a break. The hanger on my 5.8s are so worn down the socket of my skate tool can't reliable reach the nut.

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Thanks Mbrimson88. I did consider switching the hangers over to the standard baseplate, but gave my old set up to a kid at the skatepark. I skated for a few hours this morning and put in softer bushings which made a slight difference. They were still tighter than I would like. It might be the difference between the 6.1 and 5.8 with forged baseplates. I've got several mixed bags of bushing I'll play around with to see if I can get a similar feeling. I'll adjust to them. Might have to up my slappies to get through them faster and get back on the 6.1s.

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Try the wax thing, just rub your finger on it, then run your finger round the inside of the hanger yoke on one truck and see if that makes things feel easier.  Just the front truck even, as I usually have the front a little easier than the back.

Not the be all and end all, but it can definitely help with making trucks feel a little more "normal" if they haven't been used / cleaned / feeling stiff and weird.

Softer bushings have worked for the most part. The 5.8 lights just feel more stable than the 6.1s even with softer bushings, for now at least. Thanks again for your suggestions.

[ambiguousclarity]

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6.1s are the truth
literally the better 5.8s if you arent ocd with sizing

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Better in what respect? I've only skate two pair of 6.1's, but want to try out 5.8's for easier flip
read here here that 6.1's push the wheelbse out by 3.125", while other sizes by 3.2"

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Yes, more details please for a Venture lifer. I have 2 pairs of 6.1 hollows on ice, if I could consistently find 8.75 twins I'd love to give the 6.1s a shot and my 5.8s a break. The hanger on my 5.8s are so worn down the socket of my skate tool can't reliable reach the nut.

There seems to be a few 8.5 twins around. I ride 8.5s and found the 6.1s were fine. I only went down to the 5.8s because I got them cheap.

[tzhangdox]

Counter perspective, I skate 8.5s and run venture 5.8s. Tried 6.1s, they make my board feel more solid but definitely make it feel a lil clunkier than I'd like, and don't feel like the extra grind space helps from 5.8s which is the hanger space I'm used to.

Definitely still v good truck though, if I had to skate 6.1s on 5.8s it would be fine

[noahahaa]

Has anyone tried putting v8 baseplate on a v-hollow? idk if its possible to swap the kingpin over aswell

[rocklobster]

Has anyone tried putting v8 baseplate on a v-hollow? idk if its possible to swap the kingpin over aswell

I don't have the V8 but all Venture baseplates are a universal fit.

[scab]

Has anyone tried putting v8 baseplate on a v-hollow? idk if its possible to swap the kingpin over aswell

I'm using V-Hollow hangers on the V8 baseplate without any issues. Didn't bother to exchange kingpins but I don't see why it shouldn't work.

[Fast_Freddie]

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6.1s are the truth
literally the better 5.8s if you arent ocd with sizing

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Better in what respect? I've only skate two pair of 6.1's, but want to try out 5.8's for easier flip
read here here that 6.1's push the wheelbse out by 3.125", while other sizes by 3.2"

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Yes, more details please for a Venture lifer. I have 2 pairs of 6.1 hollows on ice, if I could consistently find 8.75 twins I'd love to give the 6.1s a shot and my 5.8s a break. The hanger on my 5.8s are so worn down the socket of my skate tool can't reliable reach the nut.

Local has a couple 8.75 shop twins in stock (south central wood), if you wanna try one lemme know via DM... and if you like them could order you some more.

[Fifty8mm]

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Has anyone tried putting v8 baseplate on a v-hollow? idk if its possible to swap the kingpin over aswell

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I'm using V-Hollow hangers on the V8 baseplate without any issues. Didn't bother to exchange kingpins but I don't see why it shouldn't work.

Taking the kingpin out of a forged truck is nightmare.  I can't remember which truck it was, maybe thunder forged and i gave trying to remove the kingpin.
The extra grams you'd save are not worth the headache.

[theloniousmonk]

It would be easier to drill the forged baseplate with the v8 pattern than to pound out the kingpin.

[Unkle Fleak]

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Has anyone tried putting v8 baseplate on a v-hollow? idk if its possible to swap the kingpin over aswell

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I'm using V-Hollow hangers on the V8 baseplate without any issues. Didn't bother to exchange kingpins but I don't see why it shouldn't work.

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Taking the kingpin out of a forged truck is nightmare.  I can't remember which truck it was, maybe thunder forged and i gave trying to remove the kingpin.
The extra grams you'd save are not worth the headache.

I would put it in the freezer and bang it with a hammer over a firm couch cushion
Maybe heat the plate in the middle some where

[j....soy.....]

I think hammering kingpins in any capacity is sort of done, they are usually in there pretty good.