Venture 2020

[BeachChicken]

I don't even remember seeing a single Venture Hi in a shop in the 90's or 2000's. In the Bay it was Indy if you wanted a taller truck, but those were "heavy", or some of the second tier brands if you shopped at mall shops. Thunders were not even that common yet and the SJ/SC area had some Krux, but those hangers always cracked at the oval.

I do remember seeing Drehobl on lows and far fucking risers at the Vans SJ park once.

[Fifty8mm]

I don't even remember seeing a single Venture Hi in a shop in the 90's or 2000's. In the Bay it was Indy if you wanted a taller truck, but those were "heavy", or some of the second tier brands if you shopped at mall shops. Thunders were not even that common yet and the SJ/SC area had some Krux, but those hangers always cracked at the oval.

I do remember seeing Drehobl on lows and far fucking risers at the Vans SJ park once.

Shamil rode hi's from time to time. There's pictures of him on hi's , welsh has a couple of tricks in hi's as well. Mad Circle era.

[Unkle Fleak]

I think Ventures looked kinda like and Indy 101 had a baby with a g&s and out came a discount truck? Till Rocco would use it to set up the street revolution? This could be lies lol.
I seen photos of it maybe? Think it had no X wing on the hanger. You know what I mean by Xwing? It would have a straight T shape to it.

This is the first gen I seen in real life. These have full X wing support at this time.

We have to go back to the 80s to see. Here’s Eddie riding they say in 84 but Idk about that. I’d Credit the page but I didn’t go. Sorry



Damn that post was a fucking mess.

Don’t thieve trucks look like that?

[rikki]

Will I enjoy 5.8 cast Hi's on a 8.5 / 14.25 wb deck? Street and transition mainly, not overly tech.

Haven't ridden cast Ventures yet, only skated forged so far, namely 5.6 Hi V-Lights. Love them on a short wheelbase 8.25 deck. The pop is really nice and I have no problems with the turn.

Any predictions on how the cast trucks will feel different? Not too worried about the weight. Gotta have pop. It's there, right?

/madness

[munchbox]

you will be good dont fuss

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you will be good dont fuss

correct.
rikki, you’ll like the cast, better pop imo.



for my own venture madness: i own most of the venture trucks. somehow i haven’t yet gotten the v8s. i don’t have any 5.8s. but. i don’t like wide setups any more, so i should just get the 5.2s. but. i really really like the pop on my venture cast 6.1s, but they are big as shit and i’ve become (always was?) so weak.
i think i should probably just not buy any. but the v8s are super intriguing.


flea with the wild post and showing that old venture hanger brought back some nostalgia for sure. grade school buddy had the jim t super hero board with those ventures.
seeing venture ‘lowriders’ is what the neighborhood kid called them, on a board with double kicks, right after i had shamefully ‘quit’ skating tripped me out.
fave looking truck would be phil shao photos, and anything pupecki.
all over the place myself here

[rikki]

Thanks guys.

Actually, might give the V8s a shot. They're cast, and yes, it's kinda tempting to have the option of bringing in the rear truck in case the pop feels heavy on a deck with an overly short tail etc.

[BeachChicken]

Will I enjoy 5.8 cast Hi's on a 8.5 / 14.25 wb deck? Street and transition mainly, not overly tech.

Haven't ridden cast Ventures yet, only skated forged so far, namely 5.6 Hi V-Lights. Love them on a short wheelbase 8.25 deck. The pop is really nice and I have no problems with the turn.

Any predictions on how the cast trucks will feel different? Not too worried about the weight. Gotta have pop. It's there, right?

/madness

I have preferred cast on every single deck where I have tried both. Forged don't really lighten the pop much since they stretch the WB out so damn much. The difference in WB from cast to forged is > than from Thunder cast to Venture cast, for example.

[Osage]

  Setting up a set of Venture 6.1's to replace some Thunders. I'm big and usually ride Bones Hard bushings, which I don't love but they work for me. I want to try the stock purple Ventures, which people say are pretty hard. Does anyone know exactly how hard? Also, how are they to break in? Do they get looser or tighter etc...? I automatically swap out bushings on new trucks for Bones, which I can set how I want right away and it's been a minute since I've even tried stock bushings.

[jamesmocapaldi]

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Will I enjoy 5.8 cast Hi's on a 8.5 / 14.25 wb deck? Street and transition mainly, not overly tech.

Haven't ridden cast Ventures yet, only skated forged so far, namely 5.6 Hi V-Lights. Love them on a short wheelbase 8.25 deck. The pop is really nice and I have no problems with the turn.

Any predictions on how the cast trucks will feel different? Not too worried about the weight. Gotta have pop. It's there, right?

/madness

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I have preferred cast on every single deck where I have tried both. Forged don't really lighten the pop much since they stretch the WB out so damn much. The difference in WB from cast to forged is > than from Thunder cast to Venture cast, for example.

I, for no good reason, decided to try my cast ventures after almost a year of contentment on indy forged and later indy standard. And the only reason I wanted to try it was because I bought a Chems wheelbase tool and drilled the plates in a 1/4". The pop feels exactly the same and the only difference I noticed at first but don't anymore after three or so sessions is the difference in turn. The venture stock bushings felt looser but the turn is so lean-y and less sharp that it almost feels like the wobble is balanced out so pop hasn't suffered. Now I'm scared I'll have to go through the same painful adjustment going back to indys one day. Maybe a reason to never change again...

All this to say, I don't think any differences in trucks I've ridden the last couple years has actually made a discernible difference in my skating or preferences for how a board feels. Once I got used to it, everything was chill, as it was before the change. Even going from thunders to indys where it felt super wild and unstable-- once I got used to it, I couldn't remember how thunders felt and it didn't seem to feel any more or less comfy than thunders did. And with ventures now, it was so noticeable at first how different the turn was, but the pop was fine and I could still skate so I just dealt with it and now it feels normal and I don't remember if indys actually made a big difference.

What HAS been a noticeable and ever-discernible difference maker for me has been wheel size and overall board height. When my wheels get small (to me, 49mm ish), and I replace them with 53s or something, I feel like I'm flying speed-wise, and my pop immediately feels improved. /shrug

  Setting up a set of Venture 6.1's to replace some Thunders. I'm big and usually ride Bones Hard bushings, which I don't love but they work for me. I want to try the stock purple Ventures, which people say are pretty hard. Does anyone know exactly how hard? Also, how are they to break in? Do they get looser or tighter etc...? I automatically swap out bushings on new trucks for Bones, which I can set how I want right away and it's been a minute since I've even tried stock bushings.

I'm 224. Been skating the last couple years between 200 and 230lbs. The stock purp venture bushings felt pretty similar to indy blue med hards. I've left them in for now. Ride at 1/4 turn passed nut flush on the kingpin. The rear barrel bushing cracked after 3 or so sessions and has a hernia, but it feels fine so I'm not going to touch it. When I rode thunders, regardless of duro, their bushings tended to end up feeling the same once broken in. They soften down to feel the same as stock thunder once broken-in. Since thunder and venture are both dlx, and presumably same bushing formula, I imagine as time passes the venture bushings will become a little softer feeling. Especially as warmer weather approaches.

[Mbrimson88]

  Setting up a set of Venture 6.1's to replace some Thunders. I'm big and usually ride Bones Hard bushings, which I don't love but they work for me. I want to try the stock purple Ventures, which people say are pretty hard. Does anyone know exactly how hard? Also, how are they to break in? Do they get looser or tighter etc...? I automatically swap out bushings on new trucks for Bones, which I can set how I want right away and it's been a minute since I've even tried stock bushings.

All stock Venture bushings now are 90 duro, whereas once they used to be upwards of 98 duro or so from a long time ago, so the difference is very significant.

To start with, most stock 90 duro bushings from any brand are so soft they are going to make you think that you can't ever get used to them, but by having a few sessions on them just rolling around and wearing them in, they do firm up nicely, but might still feel way too soft for people who are used to a much firmer bushing in general.  When people try to tighten them down to skate right away, they will usually blow out, come apart or not work, so for some people who will not allow for the wear in time, then going with something harder right away might be easier. 

Even then, still taking the time to wear in new bushings of any duro or brand is important to ensuring that they start off well and then last.  In saying that, I can see how a lot of people would put in Bones hard bushings and just skate right away, but even they blow out way faster if not broken in more gently.


As to other options, there are a few on the market, but it all comes down to what you are used to and what you want to try, but most brands with a cylinder bottom will work, eg Indy and others.

The options are there any which way.

[Mbrimson88]

I, for no good reason, decided to try my cast ventures after almost a year of contentment on indy forged and later indy standard. And the only reason I wanted to try it was because I bought a Chems wheelbase tool and drilled the plates in a 1/4".

Keen to see any pics of your baseplates if you have them.

Been drilling it by eye for a while now on multiple brands / sets of baseplates, but seeing if the Chems tool really does make things way better / easier to redrill baseplates.  They are stupidly expensive to get sent here to Australia, so I just make do with what I have.

[Osage]

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  Setting up a set of Venture 6.1's to replace some Thunders. I'm big and usually ride Bones Hard bushings, which I don't love but they work for me. I want to try the stock purple Ventures, which people say are pretty hard. Does anyone know exactly how hard? Also, how are they to break in? Do they get looser or tighter etc...? I automatically swap out bushings on new trucks for Bones, which I can set how I want right away and it's been a minute since I've even tried stock bushings.

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All stock Venture bushings now are 90 duro, whereas once they used to be upwards of 98 duro or so from a long time ago, so the difference is very significant.

To start with, most stock 90 duro bushings from any brand are so soft they are going to make you think that you can't ever get used to them, but by having a few sessions on them just rolling around and wearing them in, they do firm up nicely, but might still feel way too soft for people who are used to a much firmer bushing in general.  When people try to tighten them down to skate right away, they will usually blow out, come apart or not work, so for some people who will not allow for the wear in time, then going with something harder right away might be easier. 

  When did they switch to 90? I bought these at a local surf shop that has a small skateboard section and it's possible they've been there for a minute. There's just no way these are 90 duro. I'm 250lbs and 90 would be completely unskatable for me. These were loose but not crazy loose and I don't want to tighten them for at least a couple sessions. Overall, first impression is that I like the trucks. The turn was not amazing but not nearly as bad as some people say and I think I can easily get used to it. Will be excited to crank the bushings down a little in a few sessions but overall, I had fun on them.

[jamesmocapaldi]

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I, for no good reason, decided to try my cast ventures after almost a year of contentment on indy forged and later indy standard. And the only reason I wanted to try it was because I bought a Chems wheelbase tool and drilled the plates in a 1/4".

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Keen to see any pics of your baseplates if you have them.

Been drilling it by eye for a while now on multiple brands / sets of baseplates, but seeing if the Chems tool really does make things way better / easier to redrill baseplates.  They are stupidly expensive to get sent here to Australia, so I just make do with what I have.

It didn't go as well as I hoped it would. Ended up looking a bit wonky so next time I'd either get a punch and just drill without the tool, drill the board itself before gripping, or (the most likely) just buy v8s. The guide posts on the chems tool are too thick for the baseplate holes so I had to flip the tool and actually mount it to the baseplates. Also, since the holes in the tool are so precise, I ended up boring the guide holes as I drilled. Ultimately would not recommend using the chems tool for this mod. Will try to remember to post pics the next time I take my trucks off. Just don't feel like it now as I had to hold the trucks as straight as possible while tightening the hardware due to the imprecision of the new holes. In the end I'd say it was still worth it because now I know I like v8s and now I know I'm not capable of doing a mod like this without a drill press lol

[Mbrimson88]

  When did they switch to 90? I bought these at a local surf shop that has a small skateboard section and it's possible they've been there for a minute. There's just no way these are 90 duro. I'm 250lbs and 90 would be completely unskatable for me. These were loose but not crazy loose and I don't want to tighten them for at least a couple sessions. Overall, first impression is that I like the trucks. The turn was not amazing but not nearly as bad as some people say and I think I can easily get used to it. Will be excited to crank the bushings down a little in a few sessions but overall, I had fun on them.

The first real time I had experienced the current Ventures were in 2019 I think when someone came in to set up their board, had new trucks, put them on and couldn't stand on the board at all, the trucks were so loose for them.  I didn't think they were that bad, as all new bushings need time to wear in, but he swapped them straight out for some Bones hard bushings anyway, which is what a lot of people do, so I got to keep the stock purple Venture bushings.  That said he then ended up with a few threads showing on the Bones hard bushings too, so I really don't consider that a good test of anything.

I put the stock bushings in another setup just to get a feel for them and they did wear in within a couple of sessions but they were much the same as Indy or Thunder, both of which I had set up new trucks recently at that time, so were fairly comparable.  All those brands are 90 duro stock, which I usually have almost flush, maybe one thread showing on the back for a little more stability.

For Venture trucks though, the "lack of turn" or natural stability might have made them feel a little more normal right from go, or if the trucks you got had been sitting around somewhere for a while, the bushings could have firmed up a lot more than other newer trucks.

As to the timeframe, I do recall Venture bushings advertised from a shop here in AU - most likely stock bushings that had been swapped out - which they had as purple 98 duro and some red 98 duro too, come to think of it.  I got one set of those for someone else and they were definitely a lot harder than anything else I have seen more recently, so at some point, things changed over, maybe when Venture went from Street Corner Dist to DLX or some other time, but other older Venture bushings in both purple, red and more were definitely harder all round.

Someone else might have more relevant info with regard to their own experiences on Ventures over the years too.  I only have a lot of older trucks up to around 2010, then a fair gap until about 2018, when I didn't get a whole lot of used or second hand gear from others, then a lot more again from then on.

Some of the old Ventures sure do look interesting that I have here too, which I will post some pics of at some point.

[Mbrimson88]

It didn't go as well as I hoped it would. Ended up looking a bit wonky so next time I'd either get a punch and just drill without the tool, drill the board itself before gripping, or (the most likely) just buy v8s. The guide posts on the chems tool are too thick for the baseplate holes so I had to flip the tool and actually mount it to the baseplates. Also, since the holes in the tool are so precise, I ended up boring the guide holes as I drilled. Ultimately would not recommend using the chems tool for this mod. Will try to remember to post pics the next time I take my trucks off. Just don't feel like it now as I had to hold the trucks as straight as possible while tightening the hardware due to the imprecision of the new holes. In the end I'd say it was still worth it because now I know I like v8s and now I know I'm not capable of doing a mod like this without a drill press lol

To be honest, I have very much "almost" messed up quite a few baseplates too, trying a few different techniques, but I keep finding that it is easier to redrill them without a template or something else to drill through.  I have widened out a number of the holes just to make them fit a little better, as some of the deck bolts seem like they were going in all different directions too, but I did find that using the grip tape stuck to the baseplate really helped to make sure that everything stayed where it should.

So far with all the boards I have set up, none have had any other issues, no busted baseplates or things moving out of alignment or anything else, so I just eye it up or mark it out, drill a little, check, drill some more, make sure everything looks about right compared to the existing holes and then widen things out a little if needed.

I do have a set of V8 trucks on the way, so I am curious to see how they compare, but any which way, I don't think it was wasted experience on all the baseplates I have drilled out now.  Sure beats having to drill out decks, which is what I used to do, if I needed to.

[jamesmocapaldi]

Just remembered actually that when I was working on mine, after I finished drilling, the space between the old and new holes was noticeably thinner than the space between the stock and v8 position of v8 plates (as seen in the ad photos). Seemed like the chems tool measured 1/4" between the center of each hole, and v8 appears (to my eye at least) to be 1/4" from edge to edge.

i.e.

chems:  |------|
       ( )    ( )
   v8:    |--|


Hope that makes sense. Despite how it looks when depicted in monospaced text, 1/4" measured from edge to edge like v8s look to be, would result in an even larger wheelbase decrease when mounted on the inward positions. Would I noticed this difference going to v8 from my ghetto v8 mods? Who knows lmao

[rikki]

Tried the V8's today for the first time. 5.6 on a 8.25 x 14.38 DLX.

First sesh was solely on the normal baseplate setup (ie. normal cast Venture wb effect).

Holy shit the bushings (transparent light blue) felt squirrely in the beginning. A large part of the sesh was spent on just breaking them in. Gradually got to tighten 'em a bit, but they're not "there" yet, as I like my trucks fairly tight. Gotta give 'em more time.

The trucks are heavy (5.6 almost 400g). Got used to that pretty quickly, though. Pop felt off at first because of the new bushings, but once they started to firm up, ollies started to feel nice. Somehow the pop felt a bit "soft" somehow, for the lack of a better word -- maybe the new bushings still. Plus I was on Bones X97s, so there's that.

Anyway, grinds were good, the turn was nice (I do like the Venture turn, I ride them in bowls no problem), noseslides were happening, all good. Overall impression pretty promising.

Suffice it to say I have to skate them again to get proper feel of them with broken in bushings.

After that, Imma pull in the back truck and see what happens after that.

Thank you Venture, thank you skateboarding. I have good things in my life to fill up my short time on this planet.

[Mbrimson88]

Just remembered actually that when I was working on mine, after I finished drilling, the space between the old and new holes was noticeably thinner than the space between the stock and v8 position of v8 plates (as seen in the ad photos). Seemed like the chems tool measured 1/4" between the center of each hole, and v8 appears (to my eye at least) to be 1/4" from edge to edge.

i.e.

chems:  |------|
       ( )    ( )
   v8:    |--|


Hope that makes sense. Despite how it looks when depicted in monospaced text, 1/4" measured from edge to edge like v8s look to be, would result in an even larger wheelbase decrease when mounted on the inward positions. Would I noticed this difference going to v8 from my ghetto v8 mods? Who knows lmao

Yes totally makes sense.  I recall some people had said that the V8 was more than 1/4" apart.  The original six hole baseplates are 3/8" apart, so somewhere in between is most likely what they are, exactly what fraction of an inch, I don't need to know, but it is between those two.

I actually find that drilling as close as I can to the original holes gives me a better truck position, almost like a middle Thunder baseplate would work the best for me on a lot of boards on these other trucks (both Indy and Venture), but that is just too close to the existing holes, so where I do them works best for me.

I have also recycled a lot of very badly ovalled baseplates that people didn't tighten bolts down enough, so redrilling them with new alternate holes means they will work fine now, at least a lot better than how they were with so much side to side movement.

[Unkle Fleak]

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Will I enjoy 5.8 cast Hi's on a 8.5 / 14.25 wb deck? Street and transition mainly, not overly tech.

Haven't ridden cast Ventures yet, only skated forged so far, namely 5.6 Hi V-Lights. Love them on a short wheelbase 8.25 deck. The pop is really nice and I have no problems with the turn.

Any predictions on how the cast trucks will feel different? Not too worried about the weight. Gotta have pop. It's there, right?

/madness

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I have preferred cast on every single deck where I have tried both. Forged don't really lighten the pop much since they stretch the WB out so damn much. The difference in WB from cast to forged is > than from Thunder cast to Venture cast, for example.

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I, for no good reason, decided to try my cast ventures after almost a year of contentment on indy forged and later indy standard. And the only reason I wanted to try it was because I bought a Chems wheelbase tool and drilled the plates in a 1/4". The pop feels exactly the same and the only difference I noticed at first but don't anymore after three or so sessions is the difference in turn. The venture stock bushings felt looser but the turn is so lean-y and less sharp that it almost feels like the wobble is balanced out so pop hasn't suffered. Now I'm scared I'll have to go through the same painful adjustment going back to indys one day. Maybe a reason to never change again...

All this to say, I don't think any differences in trucks I've ridden the last couple years has actually made a discernible difference in my skating or preferences for how a board feels. Once I got used to it, everything was chill, as it was before the change. Even going from thunders to indys where it felt super wild and unstable-- once I got used to it, I couldn't remember how thunders felt and it didn't seem to feel any more or less comfy than thunders did. And with ventures now, it was so noticeable at first how different the turn was, but the pop was fine and I could still skate so I just dealt with it and now it feels normal and I don't remember if indys actually made a big difference.

What HAS been a noticeable and ever-discernible difference maker for me has been wheel size and overall board height. When my wheels get small (to me, 49mm ish), and I replace them with 53s or something, I feel like I'm flying speed-wise, and my pop immediately feels improved. /shrug[\b]

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  Setting up a set of Venture 6.1's to replace some Thunders. I'm big and usually ride Bones Hard bushings, which I don't love but they work for me. I want to try the stock purple Ventures, which people say are pretty hard. Does anyone know exactly how hard? Also, how are they to break in? Do they get looser or tighter etc...? I automatically swap out bushings on new trucks for Bones, which I can set how I want right away and it's been a minute since I've even tried stock bushings.

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I'm 224. Been skating the last couple years between 200 and 230lbs. The stock purp venture bushings felt pretty similar to indy blue med hards. I've left them in for now. Ride at 1/4 turn passed nut flush on the kingpin. The rear barrel bushing cracked after 3 or so sessions and has a hernia, but it feels fine so I'm not going to touch it. When I rode thunders, regardless of duro, their bushings tended to end up feeling the same once broken in. They soften down to feel the same as stock thunder once broken-in. Since thunder and venture are both dlx, and presumably same bushing formula, I imagine as time passes the venture bushings will become a little softer feeling. Especially as warmer weather approaches.

I love that shit. I’m in the market for that feeling rn.

[rikki]

Tried the V8's today for the first time. 5.6 on a 8.25 x 14.38 DLX.

First sesh was solely on the normal baseplate setup (ie. normal cast Venture wb effect).

Holy shit the bushings (transparent light blue) felt squirrely in the beginning. A large part of the sesh was spent on just breaking them in. Gradually got to tighten 'em a bit, but they're not "there" yet, as I like my trucks fairly tight. Gotta give 'em more time.

The trucks are heavy (5.6 almost 400g). Got used to that pretty quickly, though. Pop felt off at first because of the new bushings, but once they started to firm up, ollies started to feel nice. Somehow the pop felt a bit "soft" somehow, for the lack of a better word -- maybe the new bushings still. Plus I was on Bones X97s, so there's that.

Anyway, grinds were good, the turn was nice (I do like the Venture turn, I ride them in bowls no problem), noseslides were happening, all good. Overall impression pretty promising.

Suffice it to say I have to skate them again to get proper feel of them with broken in bushings.

After that, Imma pull in the back truck and see what happens after that.

Thank you Venture, thank you skateboarding. I have good things in my life to fill up my short time on this planet.

V8 review pt.2: the pulled-in truck episode

For the second session on my new 5.6 V8s I pulled in the rear truck, leaving the front truck in the normal position. Same deck of course (DLX 8.25 x 14.38 with a 6.5 tail).

NOTE OF IMPORTANCE: Venture advertises the V8 wb effect as being 0.25 inches per truck. This is simply not true. I repeatedly measured (and was sober at the time) the offset between the normal and the pulled-in holes, and the difference is EXACTLY 5/16 or 0,3125 inches per truck. End of discussion. What's interesting is that the difference between Venture's official info vs. reality is that big. I mean, this can be consequential for some. Or an important matter of principle.

Anyway.

During the second sesh the new translucent light blue bushings finally started to feel nice and Venture-y. I gotta admit I was a bit worried for a while that the new bushings would remain too soft and I'd have to go down the bushing madness swap-o-rama rabbit hole. Luckily: no. Give 'em a bit of time, they will firm up.

On to the most important point, ie. the pulled-in back truck: unsurprisingly my pop felt a bit off at first. Had to readjust my back foot position for a bit. But pretty soon it started to actually feel pretty great as I got used to the longer tail. The timing was of course a bit different and at first I felt that I'm not gonna be able to pop as high, but as the session went on, I started to like it more and more as I got used to the lighter and quicker pop, which took less effort than with the normal setup.

So all kinda good and yeah, but a TRUE eureka moment happened when I moved from just cruising and ollieing and riding flatground to a section of my local park that has big transitions, banks and corners. I REALLY, REALLY enjoying popping ollies from banks with the "new" longer tail, and actually pretty easily managed to ollie over this pyramid top that has been giving me difficulties before. Normally with a long wb and a short-ish tail I feel like I'm sometimes too slow (my bad mostly of course, I'm not GT) in popping from banks at high speed. The pulled-in back truck made a nice difference in that I felt that I could hit my tail better and do a more controlled ollie. This kind of thing is of course mostly not a problem for peeps that can skate good, but I'm older and slower and need all the help I can get. Also, 180 ollies off the pyramid corner felt really good.

The overall shorter wb didn't feel much different in general. Riding a bowl was totally ok and I still enjoyed the Venture turn a whole lot. No comply 180's and pop shuvs felt good, better than with the shorter tail. Oh, and to add -- manual point felt a bit weird at first, but that was expected as well. Nothing I couldn't get used to.

As said before, the V8s are pretty heavy so that can put some peeps off, but I seemed to get used to it fairly quickly. Coming from 5.6 V-Lights the difference is noticeable, but it's not critical. On the other hand, the heftiness felt really good when going fast on trannies.

That's basically it.

In a nutshell, I for myself (totally subjectively) feel that the V8 is a great truck that gives interesting possibilities for one's ride/pop/board control feel -- and of course more potential rabbit holes for truck madness, too.

Anyway, Imma keep riding them with e.g. 14.38 wb and 6.5 tail decks which I thought felt too clumsy for me before. Others might enjoy the trucks in many other ways.

[scab]

^Nice write-up. I can second all of that start to finish.

[BeachChicken]

I measured that same WB offset as you when they first came out but nice to know I wasn't nuts.

[Mbrimson88]

^Nice write-up. I can second all of that start to finish.

Yes, I agree with all that too, going by the DIY double drilled I did.  Gotta say the 8.38 with 14.5 wb works so well with the drilled in back truck option in much the same way you have it.  Highly recommended for anyone who might want to still keep a little bit more wb and a little more width than the 8.25 boards, because the DLX 8.38 did always feel just a little funny / short in the tail, until I finally did this for my regular setups.

I measured that same WB offset as you when they first came out but nice to know I wasn't nuts.

Yes I definitely noticed that on the official set I just got my hands on too, compared to all the DIY drilled I did which are .25" so it is funny to see these and set them up on something.

[fulfillthedream]

Had the random urge to try some Venture's the other day. Got a set of the Kader ones with the cast baseplate and hollow kingpin and axels.  Coming from thunder and ace - i always changed the stock bushings cause they felt too mushy - id skate something medium/hard like the 94a thunder bushings.

 These came with the 90a clear green ones and damn they work SO good. idk what it is but ive tightened em a little bit and they work so good! last time i skated ventures was in 2014 with bones mediums. these are working great so far!

[jamesmocapaldi]

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I, for no good reason, decided to try my cast ventures after almost a year of contentment on indy forged and later indy standard. And the only reason I wanted to try it was because I bought a Chems wheelbase tool and drilled the plates in a 1/4".

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Keen to see any pics of your baseplates if you have them.

Been drilling it by eye for a while now on multiple brands / sets of baseplates, but seeing if the Chems tool really does make things way better / easier to redrill baseplates.  They are stupidly expensive to get sent here to Australia, so I just make do with what I have.

I have photos now. I don't know if it's coincidence or what but my wife bought me some af1s to try that arrived today and I wasn't planning on setting them up yet because the ventures with the redrilled holes felt awesome. So I look down at my board during today's brief sesh in the garage and notice one of my wheels looks wonky. Come to find out, the axle is bent. I did slam my board onto the ground wheels-first in a fit of rage the other day but I'm mostly certain that it wasn't on that side of the board and I feel like I would have noticed during the week or so that's passed since and I also tried a couple times to bend the other axles in a similar fashion (unsuccessfully). These trucks were like a month old (despite being purchased new on ebay)....so it's kinda disappointing.



So now I'm trying the aces, but I have some 5.8 hangers I can throw on the baseplates if I hate the aces (which totally makes more sense than just throwing on the 5.8 hangers now, or even putting the indys I was happily riding a month ago back on :faceplam: )

[Nth syd bear]

Apologies but the truck and wb threads are hard to decipher

From what I gathering V8'S pulled  in on both trucks makes a shorter wb than ace?

I switched back to indys from ace just before these came out
Didn't want to spend more time and money on trucks but I'm a sucker and getting interested in these v8's

[jamesmocapaldi]

Apologies but the truck and wb threads are hard to decipher

From what I gathering V8'S pulled  in on both trucks makes a shorter wb than ace?

I switched back to indys from ace just before these came out
Didn't want to spend more time and money on trucks but I'm a sucker and getting interested in these v8's

Not really sure. I'd bet it makes the wb pretty close to ace though. Still turns like a venture though so if you like ace and indy, you probably won't like it at first. Once you get used it, you probably won't mind. This was just my experience with pseudo-v8 ventures.

[Nth syd bear]

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Apologies but the truck and wb threads are hard to decipher

From what I gathering V8'S pulled  in on both trucks makes a shorter wb than ace?

I switched back to indys from ace just before these came out
Didn't want to spend more time and money on trucks but I'm a sucker and getting interested in these v8's

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Not really sure. I'd bet it makes the wb pretty close to ace though. Still turns like a venture though so if you like ace and indy, you probably won't like it at first. Once you get used it, you probably won't mind. This was just my experience with pseudo-v8 ventures.

Thanks,  no stranger to ventures.  I've always skated indy or ventures until I tried ace
I like em all.   

[art hellman]

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Hardbody Hjalte 8.38
Venture 5.8 (V-hollow axle, V8 baseplate set to shortest WB, Ace low hard bushings, riptide pivot)
SF F4 53mm radial 99a
Swiss
Shortys 7/8 lites allen

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lovely.
how are you liking the v8s, compared to your ‘regular’ indy setup?

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im actually loving the V8 in the shortest WB position, that with the Ace low hard bushing really make the Ventures turn well.  i was weak for a moment and put the Indys back on, and they felt stiffer/less responsive.  i dunno if im just halucinating, or if I am now AWAKE