they look solid and the 9” opening seems to be perfect measurement for me. they kinda remind of phillys, but i cant do those because the rise for some reason longer than big boys, and considering im a short king i look diaper mode lol.
hope im not completely ignorant, but you think more brands would capitialize of the silvertab baggy fit , specifically the black tag grey font. loose tapered but not too crazy.
i agree , normie does it better a lot of times. a lot of skate companies rn are digging into baggy way too hard and creating these insane caricatures of a skater wearing almost clown pants imo (vans covina denim) lol