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I think i'm gonna try a pair of these

I nabbed some during BF sales (tried the canvas version a while ago, didn't fit/no half sizes, and felt cheap af). They're basically Vans (sk8-hi/old school) style but with a barefoot toebox. They're comfy enough but roomy (I'm a 10.5 and got a 10 based off their AI tool *shudder*); but running an Active wide SOLE heat moldable insole (I use barfoot trainers in the gym and this insole is BF shaped). For $10 more I think you can add-on a more 'impact' friendly insole which I would opt for given how roomy they are.

They're a basic skate shoe, again, like a simple vans style. No fluff, superior board feel (compare to a cup) but little in the way of protection.

The look down...well, it'll take some getting used to if you aren't familiar with BF shoes and I'd suggest getting the all black/gum to reduce the weird look down factor.

[CossRooper]

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I think i'm gonna try a pair of these

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I nabbed some during BF sales (tried the canvas version a while ago, didn't fit/no half sizes, and felt cheap af). They're basically Vans (sk8-hi/old school) style but with a barefoot toebox. They're comfy enough but roomy (I'm a 10.5 and got a 10 based off their AI tool *shudder*); but running an Active wide SOLE heat moldable insole (I use barfoot trainers in the gym and this insole is BF shaped). For $10 more I think you can add-on a more 'impact' friendly insole which I would opt for given how roomy they are.

They're a basic skate shoe, again, like a simple vans style. No fluff, superior board feel (compare to a cup) but little in the way of protection.

The look down...well, it'll take some getting used to if you aren't familiar with BF shoes and I'd suggest getting the all black/gum to reduce the weird look down factor.

thanks very much for the thoughts!

Vans style shoes are not my style at all but I'm willing to compromise a bit to give my feet a rest. I've prepared myself for the lookdown shellshock and am definitely gonna skate solo with them a few times to get used to having them on.

do you think you'll skate them regularly? or do you have a different go-to wide shoe for skating atm?

[swongolianbbq]

I use those SOLE wide footbeds in my Altra trail runners and thirtytwo tm-2 wide snowboard boots, and some other shoes. They're great.

I wonder if there'd be enough room to run an fp kingfoam underneath a SOLE active thin in these splays

You could have support, impact protection, primo protection, and a foot shaped toebox... It would prolly work for sure in the high tops, run like a kingfoam elite mid in there (7mm heel x 5mm toe) since those Sole Active Thin footbeds are only like 1.6mm thick

[skateboarder4life]

I use those SOLE wide footbeds in my Altra trail runners and thirtytwo tm-2 wide snowboard boots, and some other shoes. They're great.

I wonder if there'd be enough room to run an fp kingfoam underneath a SOLE active thin in these splays

You could have support, impact protection, primo protection, and a foot shaped toebox... It would prolly work for sure in the high tops, run like a kingfoam elite mid in there (7mm heel x 5mm toe) since those Sole Active Thin footbeds are only like 1.6mm thick

i've done this. used the stock foam insole which was pretty thin and added one with arch support and more impact protection on top of it. made sure it was pretty thin though as don't want the height to start stacking up too high. this was on the old model, not sure how thick the stock insole is on the new one, haven't gotten mine delivered yet

[swongolianbbq]

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I use those SOLE wide footbeds in my Altra trail runners and thirtytwo tm-2 wide snowboard boots, and some other shoes. They're great.

I wonder if there'd be enough room to run an fp kingfoam underneath a SOLE active thin in these splays

You could have support, impact protection, primo protection, and a foot shaped toebox... It would prolly work for sure in the high tops, run like a kingfoam elite mid in there (7mm heel x 5mm toe) since those Sole Active Thin footbeds are only like 1.6mm thick

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i've done this. used the stock foam insole which was pretty thin and added one with arch support and more impact protection on top of it. made sure it was pretty thin though as don't want the height to start stacking up too high. this was on the old model, not sure how thick the stock insole is on the new one, haven't gotten mine delivered yet

Dope

I tried it in some Jordan 1s, half size up. 5mm kingfoam under SOLE active thins

It all worked but I didn't like that my foot was higher up and kinda started doing the thing where my foot spills over the outsole and wants to roll it over

I figure in the splays, being vulcanized and no midsole structure, this method should be flawless fr

[skateboarder4life]

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I use those SOLE wide footbeds in my Altra trail runners and thirtytwo tm-2 wide snowboard boots, and some other shoes. They're great.

I wonder if there'd be enough room to run an fp kingfoam underneath a SOLE active thin in these splays

You could have support, impact protection, primo protection, and a foot shaped toebox... It would prolly work for sure in the high tops, run like a kingfoam elite mid in there (7mm heel x 5mm toe) since those Sole Active Thin footbeds are only like 1.6mm thick

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i've done this. used the stock foam insole which was pretty thin and added one with arch support and more impact protection on top of it. made sure it was pretty thin though as don't want the height to start stacking up too high. this was on the old model, not sure how thick the stock insole is on the new one, haven't gotten mine delivered yet

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Dope

I tried it in some Jordan 1s, half size up. 5mm kingfoam under SOLE active thins

It all worked but I didn't like that my foot was higher up and kinda started doing the thing where my foot spills over the outsole and wants to roll it over

I figure in the splays, being vulcanized and no midsole structure, this method should be flawless fr

Yeah exactly I think that set up will be great.

I was testing a lot of different insole combinations and measuring how high up off the ground they were making me. Then I was doing different movements and things like running as fast as I could and then turning to the side at a dead stop to try to simulate a situation where my foot and ankle might roll over. Did it with different combinations and just the single stock ones and that's how I found the combo that were the most stable and not too high.

Actually even with the combo that I decided was too high and unstable it still rolled over less than a couple other normal skate shoes I tried.

Do those sole insoles last you a decent amount of time? Had my eye on them but never tried them

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

AREth if you can find ‘em

[In A Jar]

I have really been digging the Splays.  I have the old canvas ones and waiting on the new suede which I imagine will be quite a bit better.  I put Remind Cush insoles in them.  The look down does take some getting used to, but seeing clips they just look like Vans or some other simple vulc shoe.  One thing that's weird for me is although the wide shoe makes the board look smaller, I still want a smaller/lighter board to go with them.  As far as actual skating they are less weird than one would think, they skate pretty well and the flick is good.  I have noticed much less pain in my feet and these shoes allow me to sometimes have multiple sessions in a day. 

[skateboarder4life]

AREth if you can find ‘em

is there some particular model that's extra wide? I can barely find any top or bottom pics / vids but what i've found they look extremely narrow. they also seem nearly impossible to buy anyway and their website hasn't been updated since 1995 or some shit

[okdokeydirtbite]

i just started sizing up. up one whole size now. the pair of new balances i have don't feel sloppy and skate great.

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I use those SOLE wide footbeds in my Altra trail runners and thirtytwo tm-2 wide snowboard boots, and some other shoes. They're great.

I wonder if there'd be enough room to run an fp kingfoam underneath a SOLE active thin in these splays

You could have support, impact protection, primo protection, and a foot shaped toebox... It would prolly work for sure in the high tops, run like a kingfoam elite mid in there (7mm heel x 5mm toe) since those Sole Active Thin footbeds are only like 1.6mm thick

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i've done this. used the stock foam insole which was pretty thin and added one with arch support and more impact protection on top of it. made sure it was pretty thin though as don't want the height to start stacking up too high. this was on the old model, not sure how thick the stock insole is on the new one, haven't gotten mine delivered yet

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Dope

I tried it in some Jordan 1s, half size up. 5mm kingfoam under SOLE active thins

It all worked but I didn't like that my foot was higher up and kinda started doing the thing where my foot spills over the outsole and wants to roll it over

I figure in the splays, being vulcanized and no midsole structure, this method should be flawless fr

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Yeah exactly I think that set up will be great.

I was testing a lot of different insole combinations and measuring how high up off the ground they were making me. Then I was doing different movements and things like running as fast as I could and then turning to the side at a dead stop to try to simulate a situation where my foot and ankle might roll over. Did it with different combinations and just the single stock ones and that's how I found the combo that were the most stable and not too high.

Actually even with the combo that I decided was too high and unstable it still rolled over less than a couple other normal skate shoes I tried.

Do those sole insoles last you a decent amount of time? Had my eye on them but never tried them

Yeah the sole "active" ones are plastic/hard rubber or foam or something and I have some that are like 5 years old

The "performance" ones are cork and I've had several sets fall apart. The cork sealer stuff in a tube from Birkenstock keeps em going a bit longer

The cork are good cause you don't have to heat mold them, they do it on their own after awhile. Though I have a high arch anyways so I don't head mold the plastic "active" ones either. They are decently flexible in the forefoot. Also the active model are always thinner than the performance(cork) model. And I always get the "thin" ones that don't have any foam or anything on top

Never pay full price, usually ~$25 on eBay for new ones

Their men's size 8 footbeds are same length as a Superfeet "D" size(mens 9 and lower if trimmed) but fit wider, and the sole 'wide' ones are shaped more like Altras or Crocs or something. I have a size 9 SOLE wide active thin in my size 9.5 Altras for backpacking. So i'd say they run a half size long or so but obviously can be trimmed. I think the size 9 SOLE footbeds are 11 inches long. The wide version in the same size will have a slightly shorter overall length

I haven't measured my foot in a while but I think it's like 26-26.5cm in length(right foot is like an eighth inch longer) and like 12cm width so like an 8 EEEE in traditional leather boots. The 9's in Jordan 1s have been working, but can cause some minor pinky toe irritation if I'm walking around like allll day. I don't mind if there's a gentle squeeze, I'm used to wearing rock climbing shoes and ski boots.. my rock shoes are definitely more than a "gentle" squeeze but not enough to make em go numb and hurt. I used to use superfeets inside blazer mids at 8.5 cause the arch support and heel cup pulls back my foot enough to size down, but they would still be painful to break in and would blow out on the side anyway

The problem with the Jordan 1s is they're buckets all around, so maybe if I get the 3/4 Superfeet and put it on top of the FP flat insole it'll fill out and cup the heel better

I wish they made flat 5 or 7mm footbeds that still had the heel cup shape on em like Gamechangers, just without the drop. Cause I don't need any arch support or anything. I just don't like the way it feels loose in the heel of the shoe without the raised up part on the insole stabilizing the heel a bit

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I think i'm gonna try a pair of these

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I nabbed some during BF sales (tried the canvas version a while ago, didn't fit/no half sizes, and felt cheap af). They're basically Vans (sk8-hi/old school) style but with a barefoot toebox. They're comfy enough but roomy (I'm a 10.5 and got a 10 based off their AI tool *shudder*); but running an Active wide SOLE heat moldable insole (I use barfoot trainers in the gym and this insole is BF shaped). For $10 more I think you can add-on a more 'impact' friendly insole which I would opt for given how roomy they are.

They're a basic skate shoe, again, like a simple vans style. No fluff, superior board feel (compare to a cup) but little in the way of protection.

The look down...well, it'll take some getting used to if you aren't familiar with BF shoes and I'd suggest getting the all black/gum to reduce the weird look down factor.

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thanks very much for the thoughts!

Vans style shoes are not my style at all but I'm willing to compromise a bit to give my feet a rest. I've prepared myself for the lookdown shellshock and am definitely gonna skate solo with them a few times to get used to having them on.

do you think you'll skate them regularly? or do you have a different go-to wide shoe for skating atm?

Jury is still out but I don't think they're going to hold up compared to the NB# 440v2 WIDES I usually skate these days (different wide mind you but the best non-barefoot I've found); the price/performance ratio just won't match up (+ you can find 44v2s on sale), you can tell just holding them.

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Rose anvil analyzes the new Splay skate model

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I think i'm gonna try a pair of these

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I nabbed some during BF sales (tried the canvas version a while ago, didn't fit/no half sizes, and felt cheap af). They're basically Vans (sk8-hi/old school) style but with a barefoot toebox. They're comfy enough but roomy (I'm a 10.5 and got a 10 based off their AI tool *shudder*); but running an Active wide SOLE heat moldable insole (I use barfoot trainers in the gym and this insole is BF shaped). For $10 more I think you can add-on a more 'impact' friendly insole which I would opt for given how roomy they are.

They're a basic skate shoe, again, like a simple vans style. No fluff, superior board feel (compare to a cup) but little in the way of protection.

The look down...well, it'll take some getting used to if you aren't familiar with BF shoes and I'd suggest getting the all black/gum to reduce the weird look down factor.

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thanks very much for the thoughts!

Vans style shoes are not my style at all but I'm willing to compromise a bit to give my feet a rest. I've prepared myself for the lookdown shellshock and am definitely gonna skate solo with them a few times to get used to having them on.

do you think you'll skate them regularly? or do you have a different go-to wide shoe for skating atm?

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Jury is still out but I don't think they're going to hold up compared to the NB# 440v2 WIDES I usually skate these days (different wide mind you but the best non-barefoot I've found); the price/performance ratio just won't match up (+ you can find 44v2s on sale), you can tell just holding them.

ah, gotcha. my last shoes were the 480wide, definitely not wide enough but better than a standard width shoe for sure. nice to know we have the nb to fall back on while the search continues.

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Rose anvil analyzes the new Splay skate model

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I think i'm gonna try a pair of these

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I nabbed some during BF sales (tried the canvas version a while ago, didn't fit/no half sizes, and felt cheap af). They're basically Vans (sk8-hi/old school) style but with a barefoot toebox. They're comfy enough but roomy (I'm a 10.5 and got a 10 based off their AI tool *shudder*); but running an Active wide SOLE heat moldable insole (I use barfoot trainers in the gym and this insole is BF shaped). For $10 more I think you can add-on a more 'impact' friendly insole which I would opt for given how roomy they are.

They're a basic skate shoe, again, like a simple vans style. No fluff, superior board feel (compare to a cup) but little in the way of protection.

The look down...well, it'll take some getting used to if you aren't familiar with BF shoes and I'd suggest getting the all black/gum to reduce the weird look down factor.

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thanks very much for the thoughts!

Vans style shoes are not my style at all but I'm willing to compromise a bit to give my feet a rest. I've prepared myself for the lookdown shellshock and am definitely gonna skate solo with them a few times to get used to having them on.

do you think you'll skate them regularly? or do you have a different go-to wide shoe for skating atm?

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Jury is still out but I don't think they're going to hold up compared to the NB# 440v2 WIDES I usually skate these days (different wide mind you but the best non-barefoot I've found); the price/performance ratio just won't match up (+ you can find 44v2s on sale), you can tell just holding them.

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ah, gotcha. my last shoes were the 480wide, definitely not wide enough but better than a standard width shoe for sure. nice to know we have the nb to fall back on while the search continues.

Where do you need the width exactly?

If the suede splays were cheaper, say $55-$65 (the suede versions are double the cost of the canvas) they'd probaly be worth it. They're def going to warrant a pre-emptive shoe goo'ing once they show your wear spots.

[skateboarder4life]

Yeah I think they are priced too high for what they are but I'm willing to pay a tax for a toe box that actually fits.

I want to see how they hold up.

My move may be ordering the canvas and continuing to just glue on my own suede toe caps which has been working very well.

And I actually just recently cut off the suede from the sides and heels of one of my old pairs that I can use to glue onto the next pair. So I don't even need to buy or find scrap suede. I could just continuously use the suede from the sides and heels of my previous pair to cover the necessary parts on the toes of the new shoes.

They say the new version has more tread depth and longer lasting sole though too so I am curious to see how the bottoms hold up

May be worth it to avoid the hassle of cutting suede off and gluing it and also worth having a shoe that looks more normal

[Xen]

TLDR (for you tik-tk short attention span bishes, you know who you are). I hated them. They're actually TOO wide for me as I was swimming laterally in them and I couldn't crank them football tight either (even swapped to thicker socks).

They are also so terribly thin (amazing board feel tho), you literally only have the the tread depth before you fit the midsole; in the the first session (1.5 hrs deep) my knees and feet started to hurt and my feet had that numby feeling (riding x97s mind you). This was using the stock insoles below the SOLE actives (not a squishy insole tho).

That said, they kickflip just fine, only thing I noticed was, given the wider surface area of the flik side, I had more wear across more of the shoe - comparitively speaking). Based on how much rubber was rolling up after each kickflip, I'm pretty sure they're not that durable (caveat here was it was on fresh MOB but I've had other shoes hold up better on first wear).

It also felt weird having that much toe splay while skating, it wasn't bad or good, it just didn't feel 'right'.

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

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AREth if you can find ‘em

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is there some particular model that's extra wide? I can barely find any top or bottom pics / vids but what i've found they look extremely narrow. they also seem nearly impossible to buy anyway and their website hasn't been updated since 1995 or some shit

not that model, look at the plugs or the mid-top chukkas etc., they are not narrow; the owner designed them all to be wide up front.
https://www.areth.jp/footwear/model-plug/#3
https://www.areth.jp/footwear/model-ii/

[skateboarder4life]

TLDR (for you tik-tk short attention span bishes, you know who you are). I hated them. They're actually TOO wide for me as I was swimming laterally in them and I couldn't crank them football tight either (even swapped to thicker socks).

They are also so terribly thin (amazing board feel tho), you literally only have the the tread depth before you fit the midsole; in the the first session (1.5 hrs deep) my knees and feet started to hurt and my feet had that numby feeling (riding x97s mind you). This was using the stock insoles below the SOLE actives (not a squishy insole tho).

That said, they kickflip just fine, only thing I noticed was, given the wider surface area of the flik side, I had more wear across more of the shoe - comparitively speaking). Based on how much rubber was rolling up after each kickflip, I'm pretty sure they're not that durable (caveat here was it was on fresh MOB but I've had other shoes hold up better on first wear).

It also felt weird having that much toe splay while skating, it wasn't bad or good, it just didn't feel 'right'.

you gotta give your toes time to spread out man, put some toe spacers between all your toes. and it can take like 2 years to transition to barefoot/minimalist shoes for running and skateboarding is probably even harder esp if you're not coming from wearing thin vulcs.

[skateboarder4life]

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AREth if you can find ‘em

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is there some particular model that's extra wide? I can barely find any top or bottom pics / vids but what i've found they look extremely narrow. they also seem nearly impossible to buy anyway and their website hasn't been updated since 1995 or some shit

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not that model, look at the plugs or the mid-top chukkas etc., they are not narrow; the owner designed them all to be wide up front.
https://www.areth.jp/footwear/model-plug/#3
https://www.areth.jp/footwear/model-ii/

yeah idk i finally found some top and bottom views of the plugs, can't find any of the chukkas but the plugs at least don't look that wide at all??? i can't imagine the chukkas being that much wider. i mean maybe better than like converse and vans but that's not saying much. they seem nearly impossible to buy anyway, their website is from like 1995 and every shop link they link to is either a nonexistent webpage or the shop doesn't have their shows or like a single size 6 here and there

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TLDR (for you tik-tk short attention span bishes, you know who you are). I hated them. They're actually TOO wide for me as I was swimming laterally in them and I couldn't crank them football tight either (even swapped to thicker socks).

They are also so terribly thin (amazing board feel tho), you literally only have the the tread depth before you fit the midsole; in the the first session (1.5 hrs deep) my knees and feet started to hurt and my feet had that numby feeling (riding x97s mind you). This was using the stock insoles below the SOLE actives (not a squishy insole tho).

That said, they kickflip just fine, only thing I noticed was, given the wider surface area of the flik side, I had more wear across more of the shoe - comparitively speaking). Based on how much rubber was rolling up after each kickflip, I'm pretty sure they're not that durable (caveat here was it was on fresh MOB but I've had other shoes hold up better on first wear).

It also felt weird having that much toe splay while skating, it wasn't bad or good, it just didn't feel 'right'.

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you gotta give your toes time to spread out man, put some toe spacers between all your toes. and it can take like 2 years to transition to barefoot/minimalist shoes for running and skateboarding is probably even harder esp if you're not coming from wearing thin vulcs.

I've been wearing barefoot shoes for over a decade, pretty much non-stop for the gym (unless I was wearing proper lifting shoes for sqquats but don't anymore) and my 'house' shoes, the only non-wide shoes are formal (rare) or skate shoes. I also rotate vulcs in and out of my normal cupsole use, and these are the thinnest vulcs I've ever had. Vans feel like cupsoles by comparison. There is clearly a reason they offer another insole at purchase (for $10 more) if you want more cushioning/impact protection - which probably would have helped...but at $95 with a BF discount...

For 'regular' non-skate use they were pretty comfortable as chillers, but I don't wear skate-like gear for anything but skating, so I'd never wear a 'vans' style shoe in public. It's just not by style anymore.

Switched to the CM002, they are plenty roomy where I need them (FWIW EVERYTHING else but the LR that I tried after the splays felt terribley tight tho )

[Scarecrow Radio]

I picked up a pair of Adidas Campus 00s for shits and gigs on Chrimbus eve. They have a noticeably wider, rounder toebox than any other Adidas I have tried on. Nice thick sole great for walking. I don't need the extra room in the toes to skate but it feels nice to wiggle around

[Slave IV]

Nike used to make a line of “Free” shoes, including some SB models that were supposed to have minimalist/barefoot qualities. Anyone ever try those? I only tried on a pair in a shop once and they didn’t feel right so I never tried any others but based on some of their shoes I’ve worn for years, like their old Free Run or Train shoes, they are some of the best feeling and close to barefoot shoes with wide toe boxes I’ve ever tried from Nike. I think they only offer one model now, their Free Rn 2018, which should be great but not a skate shoe. As to why they don’t make them anymore, my guess is the barefoot shoe concept goes against their primary market and if they caught on too well, it could severely damage their business so they are trying to bury it.

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Nike used to make a line of “Free” shoes, including some SB models that were supposed to have minimalist/barefoot qualities. Anyone ever try those? I only tried on a pair in a shop once and they didn’t feel right so I never tried any others but based on some of their shoes I’ve worn for years, like their old Free Run or Train shoes, they are some of the best feeling and close to barefoot shoes with wide toe boxes I’ve ever tried from Nike. I think they only offer one model now, their Free Rn 2018, which should be great but not a skate shoe. As to why they don’t make them anymore, my guess is the barefoot shoe concept goes against their primary market and if they caught on too well, it could severely damage their business so they are trying to bury it.

I have tried on the Nyjah Free 1. It was wider than it looks, but it is far from a wide shoe.

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Nike used to make a line of “Free” shoes, including some SB models that were supposed to have minimalist/barefoot qualities. Anyone ever try those? I only tried on a pair in a shop once and they didn’t feel right so I never tried any others but based on some of their shoes I’ve worn for years, like their old Free Run or Train shoes, they are some of the best feeling and close to barefoot shoes with wide toe boxes I’ve ever tried from Nike. I think they only offer one model now, their Free Rn 2018, which should be great but not a skate shoe. As to why they don’t make them anymore, my guess is the barefoot shoe concept goes against their primary market and if they caught on too well, it could severely damage their business so they are trying to bury it.

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I have tried on the Nyjah Free 1. It was wider than it looks, but it is far from a wide shoe.

That may have been one of the ones I tried in store. Not sure why it was even in the “Free” lineup other than pure marketing or what I mentioned about Nike’s business.

[S.]

I have noticed that New Balance currently has the 480, the 547   Vulc and the 440 in “wide“ (2E). All of them are already wider skate shoes.

I have tried on the 547 vulcs in wide. They are indeed a relatively wide skate shoe. I had to send them back, though. It was to large for me. Don’t size up. They fit true to size it seems.

[skateboarder4life]

I have noticed that New Balance currently has the 480, the 547   Vulc and the 440 in “wide“ (2E). All of them are already wider skate shoes.

I have tried on the 547 vulcs in wide. They are indeed a relatively wide skate shoe. I had to send them back, though. It was to large for me. Don’t size up. They fit true to size it seems.

nah this thread is for width well beyond that. those shoes aren't really even that wide among skate shoes. es accels are wider and many others. and NB employees admitted the wide sizes are fake, they just take one size up and relabel it as wide

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I have noticed that New Balance currently has the 480, the 547   Vulc and the 440 in “wide“ (2E). All of them are already wider skate shoes.

I have tried on the 547 vulcs in wide. They are indeed a relatively wide skate shoe. I had to send them back, though. It was to large for me. Don’t size up. They fit true to size it seems.

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nah this thread is for width well beyond that. those shoes aren't really even that wide among skate shoes. es accels are wider and many others. and NB employees admitted the wide sizes are fake, they just take one size up and relabel it as wide

Is that really true? @rothdigga ?

[skateboarder4life]

He's posted about it on here before if you search his history you'll probably find it. You can test it yourself too. Can't remember if it's one full size or half size but go look at a for example 10wide and an 11 and they'll be the same. So you just end up with barely more width and way too much extra length in front of your toes

[Slave IV]

What if you just order the wide one size smaller?

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I have noticed that New Balance currently has the 480, the 547   Vulc and the 440 in “wide“ (2E). All of them are already wider skate shoes.

I have tried on the 547 vulcs in wide. They are indeed a relatively wide skate shoe. I had to send them back, though. It was to large for me. Don’t size up. They fit true to size it seems.

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nah this thread is for width well beyond that. those shoes aren't really even that wide among skate shoes. es accels are wider and many others. and NB employees admitted the wide sizes are fake, they just take one size up and relabel it as wide

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Is that really true? @rothdigga ?

I dug up the post from the NB thread on this. They don't actually make a "wider" sole, they just use a size up and adapt the rest of the shoe. Note that this post was deleted so the situation may be different now. But it certainly matched my experience of getting the 480 wide 2e.

Elsewhere in the thread rothdigga says you're only getting 2mm wider or so usually by getting a 2E.

It would be sick if they made some 4E or really stepped out and made a wide toebox shoe, but i'm not holding my breath. I think the wide NBs are a step in the right direction, but they're not what we're looking for in this thread.

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they need to rework what a wide is. i'm not convinced a 12 wide isn't just a relabeled 12.5 or 13

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Lol that sounds hella dumb. Especially since they make wides in their other divisions and in the numeric line as well.

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he's actually half right believe it or not. not mislabel but built on 1/2 size up sole.

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Can Mr Roth or someone explain how the shape of the wides work, are the soles different? More material?

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Did anyone notice the latest white 480 on new balance is offered in a wide??? Curious if that is in the heel? Or forefoot.

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Curious about this too.  I find the toebox to be good in the normal 480, but the midfoot is a little narrow.

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So with wides, we generally use a 1/2 size larger sole to accommodate the 2E last size and then adjust patterns so that the wide version looks visually as close to the standard width as possible. The last, just to explain it, is the form/mold that the shoe is built around, looks like a blobby version of a foot. Just wanted to explain in case someone didn't know what I was referring to.

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