new Vans models

[Crabby_Bastard]

Would the Rowan 2s fit a wide-ish foot - across the metatarsals? They're going for $50 here in Aus.

Mine didn't fit until I put a shoe stretcher in them cranked as wide as it goes for a couple days. Now they fit perfectly.

[franc]

Hoping Crockett's shoe isn't getting dropped, love the low ones (didn't feel the high ones though).

Oh and no silly colorways, black with white sole is all we need really.

[thehogsniper]

Hoping Crockett's shoe isn't getting dropped, love the low ones (didn't feel the high ones though).

Oh and no silly colorways, black with white sole is all we need really.

Needs an update desperately. The rubber is just so soft on those shoes

[hayduke lives]

anyone compared the bmx wafflecup to the sole on the crockett or any skate wafflecups? i had bmx slip-ons i loved but they were also super soft. i hoped that was bmx line specific but if all the wafflecups are like that i won't bother.

[oyolar]

I believe the BMX and skate wafflecups are slightly different materials.

[ambiguousclarity]

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Would the Rowan 2s fit a wide-ish foot - across the metatarsals? They're going for $50 here in Aus.

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Mine didn't fit until I put a shoe stretcher in them cranked as wide as it goes for a couple days. Now they fit perfectly.

Thanks for the response and also to the others who responded. Differs for everyone. I'm inclined to give them a shot. They meet two of my parameters, cupsole and no more than $50.

[Eddy Mitchel]

I ordered a pair of Halfcabs.Being nostalgic of those.I used to skate a lot in these in the 90's and 2K's.I wonder if they're still the same.

[BALARGUE]

I ordered a pair of Halfcabs.Being nostalgic of those.I used to skate a lot in these in the 90's and 2K's.I wonder if they're still the same.

they are different but I think they are better now (especially since the Vans Skate line)

[concerned_parent]

anyone compared the bmx wafflecup to the sole on the crockett or any skate wafflecups? i had bmx slip-ons i loved but they were also super soft. i hoped that was bmx line specific but if all the wafflecups are like that i won't bother.

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Have anyone ever tried skating the BMX models ?

The old skool and the sk8 hi one?

They seem to have some kind of cupsole. I'm not a nerd for shoes specs, most of them are mkt gimmicks but i would like some insights

Probably wrong thread.

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i tried the bmx sk8-hi's two years ago. the rubber compound for the outsole is softer than the skate lines. they mushed out pretty quickly compared to skate sk8-hi's or crocketts. outsole didn't feel as grippy as other skate models. they skated fine but i wouldn't buy them again. i foolishly bought a pair of the bmx slip on's to hang out in and tbh they look like old people shoes without the foxing stripe.

these ones. i thought they looked cool but tbh i didn't like them as much as the skate models.

[hayduke lives]

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anyone compared the bmx wafflecup to the sole on the crockett or any skate wafflecups? i had bmx slip-ons i loved but they were also super soft. i hoped that was bmx line specific but if all the wafflecups are like that i won't bother.

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Have anyone ever tried skating the BMX models ?

The old skool and the sk8 hi one?

They seem to have some kind of cupsole. I'm not a nerd for shoes specs, most of them are mkt gimmicks but i would like some insights

Probably wrong thread.

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i tried the bmx sk8-hi's two years ago. the rubber compound for the outsole is softer than the skate lines. they mushed out pretty quickly compared to skate sk8-hi's or crocketts. outsole didn't feel as grippy as other skate models. they skated fine but i wouldn't buy them again. i foolishly bought a pair of the bmx slip on's to hang out in and tbh they look like old people shoes without the foxing stripe.

these ones. i thought they looked cool but tbh i didn't like them as much as the skate models.

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thanks for reply. i won't rule out the skate wafflecup entirely then

[DeanMaple]

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anyone compared the bmx wafflecup to the sole on the crockett or any skate wafflecups? i had bmx slip-ons i loved but they were also super soft. i hoped that was bmx line specific but if all the wafflecups are like that i won't bother.

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Have anyone ever tried skating the BMX models ?

The old skool and the sk8 hi one?

They seem to have some kind of cupsole. I'm not a nerd for shoes specs, most of them are mkt gimmicks but i would like some insights

Probably wrong thread.

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i tried the bmx sk8-hi's two years ago. the rubber compound for the outsole is softer than the skate lines. they mushed out pretty quickly compared to skate sk8-hi's or crocketts. outsole didn't feel as grippy as other skate models. they skated fine but i wouldn't buy them again. i foolishly bought a pair of the bmx slip on's to hang out in and tbh they look like old people shoes without the foxing stripe.

these ones. i thought they looked cool but tbh i didn't like them as much as the skate models.

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thanks for reply. i won't rule out the skate wafflecup entirely then

These look way better for skating than the skate ones.
The bmx old schools too

[marcusbutler]

I thought toes caps were out of style ten years ago.

[DeanMaple]

Nah, they are sick when well done.
Cons never stopped doing them hehe...
The black and brown 808 has them too.

[marcusbutler]

Not talking about the og. I think vans went all in on that trend after the ck court release. They designed a shoe with a toe cap already on it. Can't remember the name but it was a number, 140 maybe? Slip ons had a rubber toe cap and a little patch near the ollie area. I think era's got the trend as well. Emerica had the winos reg and slip decked out in toe caps as well. I just kept seeing the court and thinking they look like clown shoes(im gonna get a lot of hate for that). Looked the same with all the other shoes that had a bit of rubber on the toes. Looked like ass.

[BALARGUE]

CK1 was released around 2015 iirc and the other brands followed with toe caps on existing models (the Vans models you mentionned), Cons Purcell, etc
It kinda peaked 6-8 years ago

Style 112 ?

[Allen.]

Man, I really wanna skate 112’sp

[Mbrimson88]

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The 112 toe cap really helped that shoe to hold up a lot better than some others.

A few variants of the Premium / LX have the higher tape, as well as some other Skate / Pro range here and there too, which help in the same way.


I recall seeing the meme for how much rubber was up on the shoe and had almost the whole shoe covered in the last frame, going up and up by year from a while back now.

Was kind of funny, but overall a little more toe cap definitely helps many shoes last longer for those who blow out the toe areas on normal shoes.



The "Wrapped" Skate Old Skool, I just got a few pairs of:

[hiljentaa]

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Why do they not make Eras anymore?

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Whoa, yeah they aren't on the Vans page anymore, but you can still choose them in the Customs section for creating your own. A few weeks back i was in a local Vans store and asked a worker why they never have Vans in store, and he said he thought they were online only. Not that I expect a random part time retailer to know what's up, but still. Weird they're not on the site. I only buy Eras. Why would you cut Eras instead of Authentics?

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I have read on here (somewhere) that the Era shoe is coming up to the 50th anniversary or something so they are holding off releasing any more until this big release.

Seems kind of silly for people who actually want to wear that shoe and like it - I sure have had / do have a lot of them - but I guess this is Vans we are talking about so no one really knows and most of the newer shoes released just don't make sense to me any more, compared to almost any shoe going back a number of years when I would see the samples and think I didn't have enough money / room for all the new awesome shoes coming out.

Any which way, hopefully some normal ones will come out soon enough, along with some other shoes that seem to have been missing from the lineup that are true staples that people have been asking for, but I am not holding my breath.


Sorry for the mini rant there - Vans are all I wear so I am glad I have stocked up when I did, otherwise I would be wondering where to go to get anything decent, like some people I know who have gone to other brands more recently, just because Vans didn't have what they wanted.

Thanks for the info. Definitely appreciate when you explain.

Still super annoyed that they are not available at all right now. The only Vans shoe I'm interested in skating. Ha

Might try LR VM001

[finecojeffe]

I still have a pair of 112 pros on hand. I do wish they were always in the rotation. I love that shoe.

[Chimppimpin]

Hoping Crockett's shoe isn't getting dropped, love the low ones (didn't feel the high ones though).

Oh and no silly colorways, black with white sole is all we need really.

Heard there's a new color of the high coming out next week of the high. Looking forward to it.

[back smith]

I still have a pair of 112 pros on hand. I do wish they were always in the rotation. I love that shoe.

Also used to love skating the Style 112 Pro!

Has it been available in years?

[Mbrimson88]

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I still have a pair of 112 pros on hand. I do wish they were always in the rotation. I love that shoe.

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Also used to love skating the Style 112 Pro!

Has it been available in years?

The "Pro" shoes got dropped five years ago now for the "Skate" lines and I don't recall seeing any since, although I didn't look that hard, but I think Ronnie Sandoval was skating some 112 Mids for a time, but I am guessing they were older stock, compared to newer releases.  At least that was going by the release of the first Rowan shoe in Feb 2020 - says on the box 15 Feb 2020 when I was looking at some the other day, which was the pre cursor to the Skate line, which did well and then all the Skate line started coming out not long after that.

Was there another more recent release of the 112 in a BMX shoe I think?  Looked it up Style 114 is that one, no toe cap but similar upper, not quite the same.  Another good shoe dropped by the wayside, or maybe forgotten when Daan VDL went to Nike? 

I really don't know.

[Crap]

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I still have a pair of 112 pros on hand. I do wish they were always in the rotation. I love that shoe.

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Also used to love skating the Style 112 Pro!

Has it been available in years?

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The "Pro" shoes got dropped five years ago now for the "Skate" lines and I don't recall seeing any since, although I didn't look that hard, but I think Ronnie Sandoval was skating some 112 Mids for a time, but I am guessing they were older stock, compared to newer releases.  At least that was going by the release of the first Rowan shoe in Feb 2020 - says on the box 15 Feb 2020 when I was looking at some the other day, which was the pre cursor to the Skate line, which did well and then all the Skate line started coming out not long after that.

Was there another more recent release of the 112 in a BMX shoe I think?  Looked it up Style 114 is that one, no toe cap but similar upper, not quite the same.  Another good shoe dropped by the wayside, or maybe forgotten when Daan VDL went to Nike? 

I really don't know.

When the Skate line came out, they liquidated all their stock of the 'Pro' shoes super cheap online and at their outlets, so there wasn't stock of them lingering around for months like there often is with discontinued product. I think the Style 112 was already done before that though, because I have a friend who really liked them and was bummed that they had vanished.

[fernando the skater]

In the 80s there was a run of Hi-Tops with toe caps. I can't find any photos after a brief search, so not sure how long they were available for.

edit: Here's Diane Desiderio wearing a pair.

[thehogsniper]

In the 80s there was a run of Hi-Tops with toe caps. I can't find any photos after a brief search, so not sure how long they were available for.

edit: Here's Diane Desiderio wearing a pair.

It's a different model called the style 138.
From what I know, style 36 is the old skool (which had a different profile back then), while the style 37 was the mid skool (different from the mid-sk8). The sk8-hi is the style 38 and was introduced in the late 70s. 38 essentially replaced 37, but the mid skool served as the midpoint between the two. The 138 was a model that had rubber on the toe, "perhaps re-designed to combat destructive knee slides on vert although was also prominent in bmx circles." 138 came before they redesigned the 38 to increase the width of the eye-stay.

[BALARGUE]

Man you seem to have a love & hate passion for Vans
It's amazing

[hellawatters]

Finally trying skate half cabs and do not like the pop cush insoles. Do people have recommendations for insoles that are a bit thinner but still have some heel rise?

[Atiba Applebum]

Finally trying skate half cabs and do not like the pop cush insoles. Do people have recommendations for insoles that are a bit thinner but still have some heel rise?

I’ve been dropping in Cons, but I would love to have a better answer as well

[Mbrimson88]

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Finally trying skate half cabs and do not like the pop cush insoles. Do people have recommendations for insoles that are a bit thinner but still have some heel rise?

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I’ve been dropping in Cons, but I would love to have a better answer as well

I think a lot of people cycle in older insoles with new shoes, then when the shoes are getting more worn out, put in the new insoles again, just to compensate for the thickness of the ones they come with.

That said, I can't deal with the curved up sides on the current Vans insoles, so cutting them down, or reshaping them works well enough but it is a pain to have to do it and often a fine line between what works and cutting too much off and then having them feel wrong or too flat.

I have been using flatter, but still taller heel insoles for a long time in any and every shoe - the old Vans TNT2 insoles that came in every shoe back then, so just finding some that you don't have to modify is always going to be easier.

There have been a number of different options on the market, for skate or other non skate related insoles, but finding the right one is a mission, even if some places do have them where you can go in and check them out in person.

The insoles thread and a couple of other threads on here had some good info.


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103113.0


Seven pages of insole info might not be too much to go through there.

[DERBY]

are half cabs better for flat feet? got high arches and my feet are killing