Some Primitive pros make even 100k at year.

[RoaryMcTwang]

What even is 100k these days

100 k have gone soft

[HeavyAndExpensive]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

honestly i used to think 100k was a lot but it really aint shit. but its what i am aiming to make right now and im still decentyl short. and honestly have no clue how id even make more money at this point., but for 1 person making it with no partner they can afford a decent condo or townhouse, defiintely nothing high end. but then you are forgetting the biggest piece of the puzzle. the shittiest part of being a pro skater is as your career ages, you actually make LESS and LESS money which fucking SUCKS dude. what other job is like that? i honestly cant think of a job that isnt like being a prostitute where you actually make LESS money as you get more experienced :s  you are so fucked after you retire you have no skills you have to hope one of the homeys in the industry hooks it up. but you must know its not going to be good money. you need to start saving from day 1 as a pro its wild how all these guys bought cars and stuff with absolutely zero thought towards thier spiraling downward income. if you kooked it even once along the way you are pretty fucked you better pack it up and start your apprenticeship in your 30s / 40s

[close]

Even if Wade and Spenny are making a 100k USD adapted to about 130k CAD isn't going particularly far if they are actually living in Toronto or Vancouver given real-estate and housing costs, and the precarious nature of their employment status in regards to getting loans/mortgages.

[close]

If you’re not supporting other people 100k is more than enough to survive. Nobody is forcing you to live in the most expensive places ever. The idea that 100k isn’t enough to live on is almost insulting and offensive. Where do you live?

[close]

I don't think you understand Toronto or Vancouver real estate. Yes, it's quality money, but using the usual logic of you can afford a house that is 5x your yearly income you are at best maybe buying a 2 bedroom condo in either of those cities right now or maybe a real fixer upper of house. Affordable housing in these 2 cities is a major issue, and I say that as a resident of Toronto. This is before you get into the fact these guys don't have guaranteed long-term income that would make them favorable candidates to lend too. So, you are sinking money into being a renter, not acquiring equity or creating long-term savings. Which is why most home buyers in Toronto or Vancouver are duel income households or have significant family support.

I mean again, nobody is forcing you to buy in MAJOR CITIES. You're speaking as if Toronto or Vancouver are the only places you can live. Many of us that aren't making, you know, 100k a year, have to make decisions based on affordability and our budget. If you insist on buying in some of the most expensive markets in the world, then I really don't know what to you, good luck.

[somefucker]

ya'll should just change the thread name to 'Justifying the worth of 100k to skate nerds that will never make 100k'

[S.]

ya'll should just change the thread name to 'Justifying the worth of 100k to skate nerds that will never make 100k'

Yo greetings from the leftist threat: don‘t compare how much different workers make to justify who should be exploited more or less. You should look at the difference between how much the owners take vs. how much the workers get. From that perspective most professional skaters don‘t make fuck all even if they earn 500k on Nike per year.

For how much pro skaters contribute to the image and identity of a brand most of them are extremely underpaid.

[cky enthusiast]

ya'll should just change the thread name to 'Justifying the worth of 100k to skate nerds that will never make 100k'

you disgrace boognish

[somefucker]

Expand Quote

ya'll should just change the thread name to 'Justifying the worth of 100k to skate nerds that will never make 100k'

[close]

Yo greetings from the leftist threat: don‘t compare how much different workers make to justify who should be exploited more or less. You should look at the difference between how much the owners take vs. how much the workers get. From that perspective most professional skaters don‘t make fuck all even if they earn 500k on Nike per year.

For how much pro skaters contribute to the image and identity of a brand most of them are extremely underpaid.

You make a valid point, just felt like the thread was losing it's context as posting continued.

That being said, most 'workers' make jack. It's been said a trillion times but it's who can be the most marketable, not necessarily the most talented. Look at Janoski. Dude made a solid shoe over a decade ago that will surely outlive his skating, has been re-done, copied, mass produced, made exclusive, dude is chillin' without (relatively) putting in a fraction of the work most pro skaters have to do now to stay relevant/make a check.

I digress. I'd like to believe out of the ~$12 mil in annual revenue, Primitive is taking care of their riders/workers.

Is it fair/equal? Probably not.

Seems like they get enough to want to keep skating/working for them.

[somefucker]

you disgrace boognish

only dean can tell me that

[thomascandia]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

pay schoolteachers 100k

the way this society distributes equity is so fucked

[close]

School teachers have about 4 months off a year. All holidays. And don’t even work a full day. For how much they work, they make a lot

[close]

Nah teachers make fuck all. And they generally do a lot of work preparing classes, marking work and dealing with so much other bullshit. Half the time the end up being free social workers.
Don't really see why skaters and teachers pay should be compared tho the money's not coming from the same place.

[close]

I live on Long Island tenured teachers make over $100k here. The cost of living here is about $120k year for a family of 4 in a decent neighborhood without a fancy house. A house out here is usually around $400k for a 3 bedroom 1.5 bath ranch. That being said $100k a year ain’t shit anymore. Any of you guys that think otherwise are out of touch. I make about $75k and that really isn’t much. I can afford a decent apartment and drive a nice leased Jeep Grand Cherokee but don’t wanna try to bring a kid in this world before I’m clearing $100k. It honestly makes me sad that some of you still think that’s a lot of money. To put things in perspective construction workers in Ny usually make about $100k plus.

That's why I wrote there are not any reasons to living in Usa for an EuRopean pro, they can living in Europe with free health care and insurance with high standard life stile with 100k at year. 

[BALARGUE]

I know Tax system and education are different in the US ompared to Europe (i have no idea about Canada)
but lol at those saying 100k is not enough to have a decent life

talking about being out of touch, maybe stop buying useless stuff

owning a house in the city, having kids and a big car is far from being your only way of life down here

[TwisT]

I know Tax system and education are different in the US ompared to Europe (i have no idea about Canada)
but lol at those saying 100k is not enough to have a decent life

talking about being out of touch, maybe stop buying useless stuff

owning a house in the city, having kids and a big car is far from being your only way of life down here

right, Most people make way less than 100K a year and will never make 100k in a year. I live in Atlanta, if I were making 100K I'd be pretty comfy.

[cky enthusiast]

100k is mere pennies to the man who watches enough motivational youtube

if you aren’t in debt for both your car and living space how are you going to grind your way to linen pants a suit jacket and a big boat

[thomascandia]

Expand Quote

I know Tax system and education are different in the US ompared to Europe (i have no idea about Canada)
but lol at those saying 100k is not enough to have a decent life

talking about being out of touch, maybe stop buying useless stuff

owning a house in the city, having kids and a big car is far from being your only way of life down here

[close]

right, Most people make way less than 100K a year and will never make 100k in a year. I live in Atlanta, if I were making 100K I'd be pretty comfy.

In Usa the main problem is if you need a surgery for a stupid acl injury or cancer you willbe in a serious debts as I can see on those crowfounding \ beggin for money  set by Americans. EnglAnd  and EU are totally free about that, and as skaters l feel more safe in Europe ( criminal rates include ) , than risk to be homeless for a standard surgery in my ankle. 100k at year is too much especially if you come from Czech.     

[rusty knees]

nobody I work with is buying a home in the middle of a major city.
doesnt make sense unless youre a real estate developer.

regular people with well paying jobs know that the outer areas are more realistic.

[Abyss1]

nobody I work with is buying a home in the middle of a major city.
doesnt make sense unless youre a real estate developer.

regular people with well paying jobs know that the outer areas are more realistic.

major cities, if you skate, is most desirable...even if you work in media, you want to be in a major city.

[sharkjumper]

This thread got real weird.
To main point of a Primitive pro making 100k a year.
- That's awesome for them.
- It's not very common for skaters to make that much from their board sponsor.  I doubt anyone on Deluxe or Crail or Habitat is pulling anywhere near that amount from those sponsors.

Regarding that amount as an income.  I'm in my early 40s and can say that 100k a year is a good income.  In the US, the average household income was $68k in 2019.  So this skater is much above that threshold.  There's a lot of "What about Toronto, SF, NYC, etc." in here.  Yeah, 100k won't go so far in the most expensive cities in North America.  But it's still manageable.  I had to move farther out from the central city in Portland so I could afford a house.  That's the reality of trying to buy a house these days.

And to the few of you arguing that teachers make a lot of money, you're out of your mind.  My mom was a teacher when I was young.  We did fine, but we weren't balling out.  I have friends that are teachers now.  They needed a masters degree to get there so are now saddled with a bunch of student debt.  Average teacher salary in the US is $59k and that's going to vary based on where that person is teaching.  Dude that said teachers where they live on Long Island make more than 100k is a bold claim.  Maybe there are a couple in very specific circumstances, and likely at a private school.  Average salary for a public school teacher in NYC is $71k.  That's the closest geographical data I knew I could find in one of the most expensive cities in North America.  And public education is super under funded.  Whether it's big classes, or lack of resources, to spending their own money on supplies- teachers put in a lot of work and it's stressful.

[Abyss1]

This thread got real weird.
To main point of a Primitive pro making 100k a year.
- That's awesome for them.
- It's not very common for skaters to make that much from their board sponsor.  I doubt anyone on Deluxe or Crail or Habitat is pulling anywhere near that amount from those sponsors.

Regarding that amount as an income.  I'm in my early 40s and can say that 100k a year is a good income.  In the US, the average household income was $68k in 2019.  So this skater is much above that threshold.  There's a lot of "What about Toronto, SF, NYC, etc." in here.  Yeah, 100k won't go so far in the most expensive cities in North America.  But it's still manageable.  I had to move farther out from the central city in Portland so I could afford a house.  That's the reality of trying to buy a house these days.

And to the few of you arguing that teachers make a lot of money, you're out of your mind.  My mom was a teacher when I was young.  We did fine, but we weren't balling out.  I have friends that are teachers now.  They needed a masters degree to get there so are now saddled with a bunch of student debt.  Average teacher salary in the US is $59k and that's going to vary based on where that person is teaching.  Dude that said teachers where they live on Long Island make more than 100k is a bold claim.  Maybe there are a couple in very specific circumstances, and likely at a private school.  Average salary for a public school teacher in NYC is $71k.  That's the closest geographical data I knew I could find in one of the most expensive cities in North America.  And public education is super under funded.  Whether it's big classes, or lack of resources, to spending their own money on supplies- teachers put in a lot of work and it's stressful.

I don't think 100k is enough to support a family of (4), spouse and kids in most major cities....but if you live alone, its probably very nice pay

[rawbertson.]

100k is amazing income to be earning from decks alone. i never said that it wasnt. I was saying in general that amount of money is not that wild. and the fact its on such a time limit makes it really not comparable to a true 100k salary like most jobs have, not this enterainment pro sports stuff.

and yeah a lot of you guys are like "100k is a great income" it is for sure and that is the type of income you need to have if you wnat to actually own a dettached house some day maybe have some kids or some shit. but i get it that is not for everyone but i am just putting it out there for people who maybe do want that you better start thinking like shit there is no way i can make that loot working for someone unless im a doctor, lawyer, or engineer baiscally. or you doing trades shit / starting your own business.  someone else asked can you even start trade in your 30s, bro you can start trade in your 50s if you want there is no age limit as long as you can do the work and you find someone willing to take you on you can do it. i know a guy who started doing plumbing in his 40s after his business failed.

100k a year only gets you a 500k house, in toronto and vancouver, you are looking at condos pretty much only. that is 100% facts.

https://condos.ca/toronto/leaside-park-terrace-1-leaside-park-dr/unit-704-C5378035

1 bedroom, 1 bathroom, also $650 a month condo fees. have fun with that   nice unit though but 24 minute drive to dunbat not even in a sick area or anything, probably pretty safe though etc.

hopefully they can go in with their girlfriend and get something little bit better like Ryan Gallant has a pretty sick setup going on, he obviously was very smart with his money or his dad hooked it up.

also to the one guy i never smoked crack in my life i only sniffed coke one time, drank a boat load of Rum and it was FUCKED UP i passed out and hit my head took this huge bong rip then puked down the side of a cliff, friend drove me home and i woke up in my bed with leaves and my coat and shoes on in my bed. never again.

[whaaaaat]

Expand Quote

This thread got real weird.
To main point of a Primitive pro making 100k a year.
- That's awesome for them.
- It's not very common for skaters to make that much from their board sponsor.  I doubt anyone on Deluxe or Crail or Habitat is pulling anywhere near that amount from those sponsors.

Regarding that amount as an income.  I'm in my early 40s and can say that 100k a year is a good income.  In the US, the average household income was $68k in 2019.  So this skater is much above that threshold.  There's a lot of "What about Toronto, SF, NYC, etc." in here.  Yeah, 100k won't go so far in the most expensive cities in North America.  But it's still manageable.  I had to move farther out from the central city in Portland so I could afford a house.  That's the reality of trying to buy a house these days.

And to the few of you arguing that teachers make a lot of money, you're out of your mind.  My mom was a teacher when I was young.  We did fine, but we weren't balling out.  I have friends that are teachers now.  They needed a masters degree to get there so are now saddled with a bunch of student debt.  Average teacher salary in the US is $59k and that's going to vary based on where that person is teaching.  Dude that said teachers where they live on Long Island make more than 100k is a bold claim.  Maybe there are a couple in very specific circumstances, and likely at a private school.  Average salary for a public school teacher in NYC is $71k.  That's the closest geographical data I knew I could find in one of the most expensive cities in North America.  And public education is super under funded.  Whether it's big classes, or lack of resources, to spending their own money on supplies- teachers put in a lot of work and it's stressful.

[close]

I don't think 100k is enough to support a family of (4), spouse and kids in most major cities....but if you live alone, its probably very nice pay

Not gonna get into the argument of whether it's enough or not, but my sister and her husband are teachers, as are my cousin and his wife.  All of them in Washington state teaching in a basic suburban public school district. All 4 of them make > $100k a year.  Only 2/4 have a Masters.  The others supplement by coaching sports.  My cousins wife just moved into administration (assistant vice principal) and is making closer to $120k.  And yes, they get 4 months off a year and as far as I can tell, never work past 4pm, and they have extremely stable benefits.  Doesn't seem like such a bad gig to me.

edit: this is not in Seattle or King County at all, where you'd expect salaries to potentially be higher.

[Hevonen]

Expand Quote

This thread got real weird.
To main point of a Primitive pro making 100k a year.
- That's awesome for them.
- It's not very common for skaters to make that much from their board sponsor.  I doubt anyone on Deluxe or Crail or Habitat is pulling anywhere near that amount from those sponsors.

Regarding that amount as an income.  I'm in my early 40s and can say that 100k a year is a good income.  In the US, the average household income was $68k in 2019.  So this skater is much above that threshold.  There's a lot of "What about Toronto, SF, NYC, etc." in here.  Yeah, 100k won't go so far in the most expensive cities in North America.  But it's still manageable.  I had to move farther out from the central city in Portland so I could afford a house.  That's the reality of trying to buy a house these days.

And to the few of you arguing that teachers make a lot of money, you're out of your mind.  My mom was a teacher when I was young.  We did fine, but we weren't balling out.  I have friends that are teachers now.  They needed a masters degree to get there so are now saddled with a bunch of student debt.  Average teacher salary in the US is $59k and that's going to vary based on where that person is teaching.  Dude that said teachers where they live on Long Island make more than 100k is a bold claim.  Maybe there are a couple in very specific circumstances, and likely at a private school.  Average salary for a public school teacher in NYC is $71k.  That's the closest geographical data I knew I could find in one of the most expensive cities in North America.  And public education is super under funded.  Whether it's big classes, or lack of resources, to spending their own money on supplies- teachers put in a lot of work and it's stressful.

[close]

I don't think 100k is enough to support a family of (4), spouse and kids in most major cities....but if you live alone, its probably very nice pay

Is it still common for wives to stop working once they get kids in the us?

100k sounds like a lot to me, but I live in europe, so free medical shit and schooling helps a lot. Don't need to save a fortune in case someone in my family gets cancer or my kids want to go to college. The career isn't long, but I'd rather make 100k a year being a pro skater for a few years and then become a plumber or something rather than just being a plumber straight away.

[rawbertson.]

sick bro that is hype they are paid and have good job.

ill tell you about my wife who used to be a teacher but stopped because it was like 80 hours weeks for dick all money.

my wife applied for mad schools and never got into the public system... rejected so many times and the positions rarely come up. and this was just to get onto a supply list job in the public system. only jobs she could get were contracts at conestoga college or private schools where you just get treated like shit, overworked for shitty pay. also after going massively in debt for teachers college. plus you gotta pay for all these unions and fees and shit! meanwhile, no one helping oyu get a job! my wife wa

going on a hunch that your fam that have those sick jobs, they probably knew someone / had a hookup. not all of us are that fortunate or have that good of networking abilities. definintely use those things to your advantage if you have them - no one is going to give you extra props for doing it the hard way thats for sure.

[rawbertson.]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

This thread got real weird.
To main point of a Primitive pro making 100k a year.
- That's awesome for them.
- It's not very common for skaters to make that much from their board sponsor.  I doubt anyone on Deluxe or Crail or Habitat is pulling anywhere near that amount from those sponsors.

Regarding that amount as an income.  I'm in my early 40s and can say that 100k a year is a good income.  In the US, the average household income was $68k in 2019.  So this skater is much above that threshold.  There's a lot of "What about Toronto, SF, NYC, etc." in here.  Yeah, 100k won't go so far in the most expensive cities in North America.  But it's still manageable.  I had to move farther out from the central city in Portland so I could afford a house.  That's the reality of trying to buy a house these days.

And to the few of you arguing that teachers make a lot of money, you're out of your mind.  My mom was a teacher when I was young.  We did fine, but we weren't balling out.  I have friends that are teachers now.  They needed a masters degree to get there so are now saddled with a bunch of student debt.  Average teacher salary in the US is $59k and that's going to vary based on where that person is teaching.  Dude that said teachers where they live on Long Island make more than 100k is a bold claim.  Maybe there are a couple in very specific circumstances, and likely at a private school.  Average salary for a public school teacher in NYC is $71k.  That's the closest geographical data I knew I could find in one of the most expensive cities in North America.  And public education is super under funded.  Whether it's big classes, or lack of resources, to spending their own money on supplies- teachers put in a lot of work and it's stressful.

[close]

I don't think 100k is enough to support a family of (4), spouse and kids in most major cities....but if you live alone, its probably very nice pay

[close]

Is it still common for wives to stop working once they get kids in the us?

100k sounds like a lot to me, but I live in europe, so free medical shit and schooling helps a lot. Don't need to save a fortune in case someone in my family gets cancer or my kids want to go to college. The career isn't long, but I'd rather make 100k a year being a pro skater for a few years and then become a plumber or something rather than just being a plumber straight away.

thats a good point - its not like you are really missing out on being a plumber 
just gotta hope you didnt get too hurt

i think if you want to have stay at home wife with kids you gotta live in a tiny ass place at 100k a year, or make 200k a year solo. so no, id say that is not common, typically you need to own a sick business or be one of those top professional like doctor / engineer / lawyer to earn that

[DannyDee]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

honestly i used to think 100k was a lot but it really aint shit. but its what i am aiming to make right now and im still decentyl short. and honestly have no clue how id even make more money at this point., but for 1 person making it with no partner they can afford a decent condo or townhouse, defiintely nothing high end. but then you are forgetting the biggest piece of the puzzle. the shittiest part of being a pro skater is as your career ages, you actually make LESS and LESS money which fucking SUCKS dude. what other job is like that? i honestly cant think of a job that isnt like being a prostitute where you actually make LESS money as you get more experienced :s  you are so fucked after you retire you have no skills you have to hope one of the homeys in the industry hooks it up. but you must know its not going to be good money. you need to start saving from day 1 as a pro its wild how all these guys bought cars and stuff with absolutely zero thought towards thier spiraling downward income. if you kooked it even once along the way you are pretty fucked you better pack it up and start your apprenticeship in your 30s / 40s

[close]

Even if Wade and Spenny are making a 100k USD adapted to about 130k CAD isn't going particularly far if they are actually living in Toronto or Vancouver given real-estate and housing costs, and the precarious nature of their employment status in regards to getting loans/mortgages.

[close]

If you’re not supporting other people 100k is more than enough to survive. Nobody is forcing you to live in the most expensive places ever. The idea that 100k isn’t enough to live on is almost insulting and offensive. Where do you live?

[close]

I don't think you understand Toronto or Vancouver real estate. Yes, it's quality money, but using the usual logic of you can afford a house that is 5x your yearly income you are at best maybe buying a 2 bedroom condo in either of those cities right now or maybe a real fixer upper of house. Affordable housing in these 2 cities is a major issue, and I say that as a resident of Toronto. This is before you get into the fact these guys don't have guaranteed long-term income that would make them favorable candidates to lend too. So, you are sinking money into being a renter, not acquiring equity or creating long-term savings. Which is why most home buyers in Toronto or Vancouver are duel income households or have significant family support.

[close]

I mean again, nobody is forcing you to buy in MAJOR CITIES. You're speaking as if Toronto or Vancouver are the only places you can live. Many of us that aren't making, you know, 100k a year, have to make decisions based on affordability and our budget. If you insist on buying in some of the most expensive markets in the world, then I really don't know what to you, good luck.

Except I specifically mentioned two Primitive riders who live in these cities. I said for Toronto or Vancouver. I didn't say everywhere in the world. And, tons of people live in these places because they have family/support networks. And, to be honest, if you are trying to be a pro skateboarder in Canada, good luck having any semblance of a career living anywhere but MTL, Toronto or Vancouver.

[Madam, I'm Adam]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

honestly i used to think 100k was a lot but it really aint shit. but its what i am aiming to make right now and im still decentyl short. and honestly have no clue how id even make more money at this point., but for 1 person making it with no partner they can afford a decent condo or townhouse, defiintely nothing high end. but then you are forgetting the biggest piece of the puzzle. the shittiest part of being a pro skater is as your career ages, you actually make LESS and LESS money which fucking SUCKS dude. what other job is like that? i honestly cant think of a job that isnt like being a prostitute where you actually make LESS money as you get more experienced :s  you are so fucked after you retire you have no skills you have to hope one of the homeys in the industry hooks it up. but you must know its not going to be good money. you need to start saving from day 1 as a pro its wild how all these guys bought cars and stuff with absolutely zero thought towards thier spiraling downward income. if you kooked it even once along the way you are pretty fucked you better pack it up and start your apprenticeship in your 30s / 40s

[close]

Even if Wade and Spenny are making a 100k USD adapted to about 130k CAD isn't going particularly far if they are actually living in Toronto or Vancouver given real-estate and housing costs, and the precarious nature of their employment status in regards to getting loans/mortgages.

[close]

If you’re not supporting other people 100k is more than enough to survive. Nobody is forcing you to live in the most expensive places ever. The idea that 100k isn’t enough to live on is almost insulting and offensive. Where do you live?

[close]

I don't think you understand Toronto or Vancouver real estate. Yes, it's quality money, but using the usual logic of you can afford a house that is 5x your yearly income you are at best maybe buying a 2 bedroom condo in either of those cities right now or maybe a real fixer upper of house. Affordable housing in these 2 cities is a major issue, and I say that as a resident of Toronto. This is before you get into the fact these guys don't have guaranteed long-term income that would make them favorable candidates to lend too. So, you are sinking money into being a renter, not acquiring equity or creating long-term savings. Which is why most home buyers in Toronto or Vancouver are duel income households or have significant family support.

[close]

I mean again, nobody is forcing you to buy in MAJOR CITIES. You're speaking as if Toronto or Vancouver are the only places you can live. Many of us that aren't making, you know, 100k a year, have to make decisions based on affordability and our budget. If you insist on buying in some of the most expensive markets in the world, then I really don't know what to you, good luck.

[close]

Except I specifically mentioned two Primitive riders who live in these cities. I said for Toronto or Vancouver. I didn't say everywhere in the world. And, tons of people live in these places because they have family/support networks. And, to be honest, if you are trying to be a pro skateboarder in Canada, good luck having any semblance of a career living anywhere but MTL, Toronto or Vancouver.

Ain't gonna be pro for FA and live in Fredericton, that's the God's honest truth.

[DannyDee]

100k is amazing income to be earning from decks alone. i never said that it wasnt. I was saying in general that amount of money is not that wild. and the fact its on such a time limit makes it really not comparable to a true 100k salary like most jobs have, not this enterainment pro sports stuff.

and yeah a lot of you guys are like "100k is a great income" it is for sure and that is the type of income you need to have if you wnat to actually own a dettached house some day maybe have some kids or some shit. but i get it that is not for everyone but i am just putting it out there for people who maybe do want that you better start thinking like shit there is no way i can make that loot working for someone unless im a doctor, lawyer, or engineer baiscally. or you doing trades shit / starting your own business.  someone else asked can you even start trade in your 30s, bro you can start trade in your 50s if you want there is no age limit as long as you can do the work and you find someone willing to take you on you can do it. i know a guy who started doing plumbing in his 40s after his business failed.

100k a year only gets you a 500k house, in toronto and vancouver, you are looking at condos pretty much only. that is 100% facts.

https://condos.ca/toronto/leaside-park-terrace-1-leaside-park-dr/unit-704-C5378035

1 bedroom, 1 bathroom, also $650 a month condo fees. have fun with that   nice unit though but 24 minute drive to dunbat not even in a sick area or anything, probably pretty safe though etc.

hopefully they can go in with their girlfriend and get something little bit better like Ryan Gallant has a pretty sick setup going on, he obviously was very smart with his money or his dad hooked it up.

also to the one guy i never smoked crack in my life i only sniffed coke one time, drank a boat load of Rum and it was FUCKED UP i passed out and hit my head took this huge bong rip then puked down the side of a cliff, friend drove me home and i woke up in my bed with leaves and my coat and shoes on in my bed. never again.

That is condo is 24-years-old,  is quite isolated (basically near a down market mall and a couple box stores), and borders on a pretty questionable neighborhood (Thorncliffe Park).

[HeavyAndExpensive]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

honestly i used to think 100k was a lot but it really aint shit. but its what i am aiming to make right now and im still decentyl short. and honestly have no clue how id even make more money at this point., but for 1 person making it with no partner they can afford a decent condo or townhouse, defiintely nothing high end. but then you are forgetting the biggest piece of the puzzle. the shittiest part of being a pro skater is as your career ages, you actually make LESS and LESS money which fucking SUCKS dude. what other job is like that? i honestly cant think of a job that isnt like being a prostitute where you actually make LESS money as you get more experienced :s  you are so fucked after you retire you have no skills you have to hope one of the homeys in the industry hooks it up. but you must know its not going to be good money. you need to start saving from day 1 as a pro its wild how all these guys bought cars and stuff with absolutely zero thought towards thier spiraling downward income. if you kooked it even once along the way you are pretty fucked you better pack it up and start your apprenticeship in your 30s / 40s

[close]

Even if Wade and Spenny are making a 100k USD adapted to about 130k CAD isn't going particularly far if they are actually living in Toronto or Vancouver given real-estate and housing costs, and the precarious nature of their employment status in regards to getting loans/mortgages.

[close]

If you’re not supporting other people 100k is more than enough to survive. Nobody is forcing you to live in the most expensive places ever. The idea that 100k isn’t enough to live on is almost insulting and offensive. Where do you live?

[close]

I don't think you understand Toronto or Vancouver real estate. Yes, it's quality money, but using the usual logic of you can afford a house that is 5x your yearly income you are at best maybe buying a 2 bedroom condo in either of those cities right now or maybe a real fixer upper of house. Affordable housing in these 2 cities is a major issue, and I say that as a resident of Toronto. This is before you get into the fact these guys don't have guaranteed long-term income that would make them favorable candidates to lend too. So, you are sinking money into being a renter, not acquiring equity or creating long-term savings. Which is why most home buyers in Toronto or Vancouver are duel income households or have significant family support.

[close]

I mean again, nobody is forcing you to buy in MAJOR CITIES. You're speaking as if Toronto or Vancouver are the only places you can live. Many of us that aren't making, you know, 100k a year, have to make decisions based on affordability and our budget. If you insist on buying in some of the most expensive markets in the world, then I really don't know what to you, good luck.

[close]

Except I specifically mentioned two Primitive riders who live in these cities. I said for Toronto or Vancouver. I didn't say everywhere in the world. And, tons of people live in these places because they have family/support networks. And, to be honest, if you are trying to be a pro skateboarder in Canada, good luck having any semblance of a career living anywhere but MTL, Toronto or Vancouver.

ok so Toronto is expensive and person that earns 100k a year can’t afford to live in Toronto, but then insists on living where they can’t afford to. Got it. Fuck me sideways. I wonder if they can apply for a cost of living  discount in Vancouver cause they only earn 100k, but hey they’re trying to be a pro skater so they’re entitled to live here!

[DannyDee]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

honestly i used to think 100k was a lot but it really aint shit. but its what i am aiming to make right now and im still decentyl short. and honestly have no clue how id even make more money at this point., but for 1 person making it with no partner they can afford a decent condo or townhouse, defiintely nothing high end. but then you are forgetting the biggest piece of the puzzle. the shittiest part of being a pro skater is as your career ages, you actually make LESS and LESS money which fucking SUCKS dude. what other job is like that? i honestly cant think of a job that isnt like being a prostitute where you actually make LESS money as you get more experienced :s  you are so fucked after you retire you have no skills you have to hope one of the homeys in the industry hooks it up. but you must know its not going to be good money. you need to start saving from day 1 as a pro its wild how all these guys bought cars and stuff with absolutely zero thought towards thier spiraling downward income. if you kooked it even once along the way you are pretty fucked you better pack it up and start your apprenticeship in your 30s / 40s

[close]

Even if Wade and Spenny are making a 100k USD adapted to about 130k CAD isn't going particularly far if they are actually living in Toronto or Vancouver given real-estate and housing costs, and the precarious nature of their employment status in regards to getting loans/mortgages.

[close]

If you’re not supporting other people 100k is more than enough to survive. Nobody is forcing you to live in the most expensive places ever. The idea that 100k isn’t enough to live on is almost insulting and offensive. Where do you live?

[close]

I don't think you understand Toronto or Vancouver real estate. Yes, it's quality money, but using the usual logic of you can afford a house that is 5x your yearly income you are at best maybe buying a 2 bedroom condo in either of those cities right now or maybe a real fixer upper of house. Affordable housing in these 2 cities is a major issue, and I say that as a resident of Toronto. This is before you get into the fact these guys don't have guaranteed long-term income that would make them favorable candidates to lend too. So, you are sinking money into being a renter, not acquiring equity or creating long-term savings. Which is why most home buyers in Toronto or Vancouver are duel income households or have significant family support.

[close]

I mean again, nobody is forcing you to buy in MAJOR CITIES. You're speaking as if Toronto or Vancouver are the only places you can live. Many of us that aren't making, you know, 100k a year, have to make decisions based on affordability and our budget. If you insist on buying in some of the most expensive markets in the world, then I really don't know what to you, good luck.

[close]

Except I specifically mentioned two Primitive riders who live in these cities. I said for Toronto or Vancouver. I didn't say everywhere in the world. And, tons of people live in these places because they have family/support networks. And, to be honest, if you are trying to be a pro skateboarder in Canada, good luck having any semblance of a career living anywhere but MTL, Toronto or Vancouver.

[close]

ok so Toronto is expensive and person that earns 100k a year can’t afford to live in Toronto, but then insist on it anyway. Got it.

Did I say can't live in Toronto anywhere? or did I say it doesn't go particularly far, especially when that amount of cash for pro skaters is likely short-term. You put a ton of assumptions into what I originally said.

[Nosferatu]

I would assume anyone making 100k from boards is pulling in at least 200k/year from all sponsors.

[DannyDee]

I would assume anyone making 100k from boards is pulling in at least 200k/year from all sponsors.

Isn't Spenny NB# flow, and I have a hard time seeing eS paying someone 100k. Outside of guys like Thiago, Paul, Carlos and Miles is anyone else on Primitive making a killing in shoes or contests?

[sometimeperhaps]

Expand Quote

I would assume anyone making 100k from boards is pulling in at least 200k/year from all sponsors.

[close]

Isn't Spenny NB# flow, and I have a hard time seeing eS paying someone 100k. Outside of guys like Thiago, Paul, Carlos and Miles is anyone else on Primitive making a killing in shoes or contests?

In the recent Bunt episode it sounds like he’s full on NB now.

[fongool]

noticing that most of the "$100k is nothing" posters in this thread are Canadian

$100k CAD = $78k USD
                    = $66k EUR