To clarify the comparison, I skate my ventures as loose as I can without changing the geometry, basically by adding softer bushings. It’s just that with Ventures when you put your weight into a turn there’s basically a point where they “stop” turning until you distribute your weight more, basically preventing wheelbite on a sketchy manual, or nearly correcting it. With any truck with very responsive turning it might be normal to have to try harder to get the right manual.
That being said, I can’t really manual “on flat” but I can hold them if I jumped up on something, so the jury is still out for me. Im gonna put my ventures in my backpack when I go skate tomorrow, in case, but otherwise look forward to seeing what these royals do for me haha.