Damn i also tried to skate the same deck on my thunders lights 148 (instead of royals 144, 8,25 deck) with same wheels also, and wow thunders turning really doesn't hold up the match with royals turning, maybe the 1mm higher teams baseplates would help a little though. Ace turning instead is still superior of course but i don't feel i'm really missing it, since royals do turn very good anyway and the pinch is WAY better, and also the pop feel is better to me.