New royal trucks

[Jonny7.5Alive]

Scooped some ultra light 8.75's from SoCal for $42 shipped (with some 52mm F4 classics to get free shipping).

I love my Indy forged hollows in 8.5 and 9.125" but I really want to set up something lighter. May be awhile before I get around to building with them though. Any recommendations on decks to pair them with?

Not your size but I skate my 139s with Hockey 8"

The steepness of the kicks really pairs well with the Royals for some reason

[AlumarX]

Gonna be setting up my 8.25 royals on a 14.25 wb deck. I could not manual for shit on 14wb with these trucks.

I just put Tensors ATGs on that 14wb deck to give it away to someone, since I hate those trucks so much, but as I rode it I could not part with it just yet lol. I was getting way longer manuals.
If I can't manual with these trucks on 14.25wb I might have to give up and go back to thunders or ventures.

[sebbo]

If I can't manual with these trucks on 14.25wb I might have to give up and go back to thunders or ventures.

I am riding 14.25 and have no problems with manuals 

[goodatmeth]

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If I can't manual with these trucks on 14.25wb I might have to give up and go back to thunders or ventures.

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I am riding 14.25 and have no problems with manuals 

I've also struggled on manuals with these, I wonder why that is?
It shouldn't be the relative wheelbase, since my manuals are way better on thunders as well as ace on the same deck.

[Beeker]

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If I can't manual with these trucks on 14.25wb I might have to give up and go back to thunders or ventures.

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I am riding 14.25 and have no problems with manuals 

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I've also struggled on manuals with these, I wonder why that is?
It shouldn't be the relative wheelbase, since my manuals are way better on thunders as well as ace on the same deck.

Besides wheel size which I'll assume was the same, the only other thing it could possibly be is weight, no? That could be it, but I think this phenomenon is purely mental.

[LebowskisRug]

That last sentence is all of gear madness.

[I Can't Think]

Figured I'd just let people know how the royals have been since I've been skating them for a few months. Overall they're pretty fucking sick, if you want lower trucks I'd seriously recommend these. Only thing that bugged me was the IKP would get loose, but after I tried super glue like someone suggested earlier in this thread the problem resolved. Also, I found the IKP is better for dipped grinds if its a smooth, skatepark ledge/rail. But if it's chunky then yeah it'll hang up more since it's way harder metal. Besides that Everything is good, it turns good, pops good, grinds good. I dunno what else to really say except they're really good trucks.

Side note: I bounced to a pair of worn ATGs I still have since I setup a new board and was curious how they felt after riding the royals and they still felt really good. Basically I'd say go royal if you want a low truck and tensor if you want high. It kinda sounds fucking kooked to say but yeah, tensor and royal skate the best in their respective height categories imo. I kinda wanna try some forged/TI indys later since their height is somewhere in the middle and they have a similar WB apparently.

[sebbo]

Figured I'd just let people know how the royals have been since I've been skating them for a few months. Overall they're pretty fucking sick, if you want lower trucks I'd seriously recommend these. Only thing that bugged me was the IKP would get loose, but after I tried super glue like someone suggested earlier in this thread the problem resolved. Also, I found the IKP is better for dipped grinds if its a smooth, skatepark ledge/rail. But if it's chunky then yeah it'll hang up more since it's way harder metal. Besides that Everything is good, it turns good, pops good, grinds good. I dunno what else to really say except they're really good trucks.

I've been skating them since february and second your points.
After I fixed the IKP with superglue everything was perfect.
Will definitely buy a second pair. But probably just the ravvs.

[MysticalTypeExperience]

I'm setting up some 8.75 ultra lights with Bones hards on an 8.75 Flight deck today, with 52mm F4 classics. Should end up being a nice light board for the width. It's raining all this week but I'll report back once I get to skate it.

Also note to self: this is the 4th and last fucking board I'm setting up and running concurrently. The Madness must be curbed.

[rocklobster]

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Figured I'd just let people know how the royals have been since I've been skating them for a few months. Overall they're pretty fucking sick, if you want lower trucks I'd seriously recommend these. Only thing that bugged me was the IKP would get loose, but after I tried super glue like someone suggested earlier in this thread the problem resolved. Also, I found the IKP is better for dipped grinds if its a smooth, skatepark ledge/rail. But if it's chunky then yeah it'll hang up more since it's way harder metal. Besides that Everything is good, it turns good, pops good, grinds good. I dunno what else to really say except they're really good trucks.

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I've been skating them since february and second your points.
After I fixed the IKP with superglue everything was perfect.
Will definitely buy a second pair. But probably just the ravvs.

What have you guys been doing with superglue and the IKP? Haven't ridden mine in 3 months but the bushings were starting to feel softer than I liked, not sure if it was the kingpin loosening or the bushings fully breaking into become overly soft.

[goodatmeth]

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If I can't manual with these trucks on 14.25wb I might have to give up and go back to thunders or ventures.

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I am riding 14.25 and have no problems with manuals 

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I've also struggled on manuals with these, I wonder why that is?
It shouldn't be the relative wheelbase, since my manuals are way better on thunders as well as ace on the same deck.

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Besides wheel size which I'll assume was the same, the only other thing it could possibly be is weight, no? That could be it, but I think this phenomenon is purely mental.

Yeah the combination of wb and weight has to be it. The aces are a bit shorter, but also stupid heavy so that kinda cancels it out I guess.

[sebbo]

What have you guys been doing with superglue and the IKP? Haven't ridden mine in 3 months but the bushings were starting to feel softer than I liked, not sure if it was the kingpin loosening or the bushings fully breaking into become overly soft.

Put some super glue on the kingpin nut inside the baseplate.

[AlumarX]

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If I can't manual with these trucks on 14.25wb I might have to give up and go back to thunders or ventures.

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I am riding 14.25 and have no problems with manuals 

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I've also struggled on manuals with these, I wonder why that is?
It shouldn't be the relative wheelbase, since my manuals are way better on thunders as well as ace on the same deck.

I've no idea. I can get smooth comfortable manuals on damn near every truck I've tried. Maybe wheel size? I think my wheels are somewhere around 49-50mm by now. I'll report back on the 14.25.

I hated manuals on the ATGs until I set them up with some 2 year old Radials that are down to the mid 40mms and now they skate phenomenal.

But it'll have to wait a month, cause my shin splints are hurting even just to walk in. And now I got a calf sprain on that very same leg. I guess this is as good an opportunity as any to finally get my body to skate switch.

[Jonny7.5Alive]

Anyone tried the lights ? Much difference?

Also is the wheelbase the same between normal and lights?

[sebbo]

Anyone tried the lights ? Much difference?

Also is the wheelbase the same between normal and lights?

They just have a hollow kingpin and axle. So everything else should be the same, shouldn't it?

[timv]

Anyone tried the lights ? Much difference?

Also is the wheelbase the same between normal and lights?

I do not think the baseplate is any different.  Just a hollow axle and kingpin like said above so wheelbase should be the same.

The only truck brand that I measured a difference of cast vs forged is venture.
I have thunder forged and cast plates and they are the same.  Indy forged vs cast the same.
Venture it is different.  I actually figured out that older cast venture USA plates vs newer cast plates are a bit different also.

[IpathCats]

I feel like these new Royals are the best underdog story in 2022 skateboarding. If there was an 80's movie based on this, the Lurpiv antagonist would be a cool guy badass that everyone liked, but ends up self sabotaging himself in the end due to his ego. Then everyone would realize the humble royal protagonist had what they were looking for all along.

[FatGuy92]

Im hesitant about trying the new Royals due to the height and WB difference. Thinking about snapping up all the Royal IV 5.25s I can find and hope they last the rest of my life. I've been skating so good on my set. Or maybe I've been watching too many of Jerry's old parts

[rocklobster]

Im hesitant about trying the new Royals due to the height and WB difference. Thinking about snapping up all the Royal IV 5.25s I can find and hope they last the rest of my life. I've been skating so good on my set. Or maybe I've been watching too many of Jerry's old parts

Hadn't ridden the old Royals in maybe 15 years but the new ones are worth the money and hold their own among the Big 4. Definitely considering picking up a pair when SWH or Tactics has a sale.

[MysticalTypeExperience]

Anyone tried the lights ? Much difference?

Also is the wheelbase the same between normal and lights?

I have the 8.75 ultra lights, I think they're supposed to be 338g per truck. I should've re-weighed then after I put bones hard and different washers on though. Wheelbase I measured at +3.125", same as my 9.125" Indy Forged Hollows.

Pretty sure they have the same cast baseplate. By the way, it's cast right? Sure looks like it even though Tactics called them "Forged Ultra Lights"

[Xen]

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Anyone tried the lights ? Much difference?

Also is the wheelbase the same between normal and lights?

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I have the 8.75 ultra lights, I think they're supposed to be 338g per truck. I should've re-weighed then after I put bones hard and different washers on though. Wheelbase I measured at +3.125", same as my 9.125" Indy Forged Hollows.

Pretty sure they have the same cast baseplate. By the way, it's cast right? Sure looks like it even though Tactics called them "Forged Ultra Lights"

Cast plates across them all; I can't recall, but there was some talk of them being rheocasted (like Lurpiv).

[Idk]

They’re getting non Crail riders on.

[stringsnthings]

They’re getting non Crail riders on.

I like this. It's not the same as getting the boss on 4* but I do like the idea of getting dudes outside of rail.

[FatGuy92]

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They’re getting non Crail riders on.

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I like this. It's not the same as getting the boss on 4* but I do like the idea of getting dudes outside of rail.

aside from Jerry Hsu, Daniel Espinoza, and Nico Hiraga, have there been non Crail dudes on Royal? i'm blanking on others (if any)

[IpathCats]

They’re getting non Crail riders on.

Poor guy needs a wheel sponsor. Out here riding deathwish wheels. I feel like I would just pay for f4s before riding board brand wheels for free.

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They’re getting non Crail riders on.

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I like this. It's not the same as getting the boss on 4* but I do like the idea of getting dudes outside of rail.

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aside from Jerry Hsu, Daniel Espinoza, and Nico Hiraga, have there been non Crail dudes on Royal? i'm blanking on others (if any)

Ave, Wes, Molinar, Dgar. I’m sure there’s more, but those hitters spring to mind. Tbf ave wasn’t skating a bunch at that time, but the other 3, and Jerry, all had some of their best stuff on royals.

[manysnakes]

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They’re getting non Crail riders on.

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Poor guy needs a wheel sponsor. Out here riding deathwish wheels. I feel like I would just pay for f4s before riding board brand wheels for free.

I always wonder if, with skaters like this (without a real shoe or wheel sponsor, whatever), they don't want to be seen riding a big name brand because A) it's free advertising for someone who isn't paying them or B) they don't want to be seen to be "pretending" to be sponsored by Spitfire. Like I imagine there's always some of that there, just normal kind of petty shit that I'd probably do if I were in that position.

[mamba]

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They’re getting non Crail riders on.

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I like this. It's not the same as getting the boss on 4* but I do like the idea of getting dudes outside of rail.

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aside from Jerry Hsu, Daniel Espinoza, and Nico Hiraga, have there been non Crail dudes on Royal? i'm blanking on others (if any)

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Ave, Wes, Molinar, Dgar. I’m sure there’s more, but those hitters spring to mind. Tbf ave wasn’t skating a bunch at that time, but the other 3, and Jerry, all had some of their best stuff on royals.

Jose Rojo, Daryl Angel.

Anyone remember before the revamp, the trucks had negative kingpin clearance? Like the kingpin literally stuck out past the axle

[LebowskisRug]

AVE was skating a lot just not on Royals. I saw Jerry skate a decent amount during that time period and he was always on Thunders.

[IpathCats]

I always wonder if, with skaters like this (without a real shoe or wheel sponsor, whatever), they don't want to be seen riding a big name brand because A) it's free advertising for someone who isn't paying them or B) they don't want to be seen to be "pretending" to be sponsored by Spitfire. Like I imagine there's always some of that there, just normal kind of petty shit that I'd probably do if I were in that position.

I'd just remove the logos if i was worried about free advertising. As particular as i am with my gear, i feel like i would be even worse if i was getting paid to skate. No way i could rock some deathwish wheels out of spite(fire)