New royal trucks

[RichardBarkley]

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They’re on sale at skate warehouse for 30$ with shipping. Gave up on the Indy mids and compulsively bought a pair. Now I got way to many trucks and currently can’t skate cuz of a year long neck injury first world problems.

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you won't regret it. indys are trash now

Yeah I'm skating Thunders at the moment but Royals are the best all round truck in my opinion. Won't regret it

[Kaydubbb]

I'm thinking about picking up some royals, how do I know if I'm looking at the old ones or the new ones?

[Xen]

I'm thinking about picking up some royals, how do I know if I'm looking at the old ones or the new ones?

The old royals came with black bushings and said 'The Royal Truck Company' along the baseplate. The sticker on the hanger was also very basic/flat.


The new royals come with blue or white bushings and just say ROYAL on the baseplate (or black bushings if you stumble upon some black ones) - the NEW sticker is prismatic.


If you go for the IKP version know that Mike Mo's pro model royal truck is the OLD royal (and the IKP were black).

[Kaydubbb]

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I'm thinking about picking up some royals, how do I know if I'm looking at the old ones or the new ones?

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The old royals came with black bushings and said 'The Royal Truck Company' along the baseplate. The sticker on the hanger was also very basic/flat.


The new royals come with blue or white bushings and just say ROYAL on the baseplate (or black bushings if you stumble upon some black ones) - the NEW sticker is prismatic.


If you go for the IKP version know that Mike Mo's pro model royal truck is the OLD royal (and the IKP were black).

Thanks for the info Xen, I know you rave about the royals, how do you find the wheelbite on them?

[Xen]

Thanks for the info Xen, I know you rave about the royals, how do you find the wheelbite on them?

Compared to riding thunder? Nonexistent.

Of course it still happens and those stock bushings are soft…wheelbite city.

94a thunder bottom/ bones hard bottom as top bushing, bones flat washer on bottom is the sweet spot for me (195lbs / 53/54mm wheels).

[Kaydubbb]

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Thanks for the info Xen, I know you rave about the royals, how do you find the wheelbite on them?

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Compared to riding thunder? Nonexistent.

Of course it still happens and those stock bushings are soft…wheelbite city.

94a thunder bottom/ bones hard bottom as top bushing, bones flat washer on bottom is the sweet spot for me (195lbs / 53/54mm wheels).

Sounds like it will work for me then. If the bottom bushing is tall like thunders I'll probably get away with my ace hard bottom bushing I've been using with a thicker and super cupped washer.

[Xen]

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Thanks for the info Xen, I know you rave about the royals, how do you find the wheelbite on them?

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Compared to riding thunder? Nonexistent.

Of course it still happens and those stock bushings are soft…wheelbite city.

94a thunder bottom/ bones hard bottom as top bushing, bones flat washer on bottom is the sweet spot for me (195lbs / 53/54mm wheels).

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Sounds like it will work for me then. If the bottom bushing is tall like thunders I'll probably get away with my ace hard bottom bushing I've been using with a thicker and super cupped washer.

I usually run ACE hard bottoms/tops in the royals, my current set is just beat so tried misc hard bushings I had laying around and landed on the thunder bottom/bones bottom as top combo; conical bottom does change the dynamics of the truck a bit, slightly more nimble.

[Uncle Flea]

I'm going to try a set.

I just gotta slim the truck ice chest. I didn't even know I had like 2 set of 44s and I thought I passed on the Slappy Hollow but I didn't.

I guess I gave up some 144s instead. Probably because whoever runs Slappy IG, i assumed Sinclair gave me um before they dropped so they're kinda extra cool.

It's the only product I've ever asked someone for. I feel funny about that stuff

[rocklobster]

Standards (their best truck IMO) is going for $32 a pair on SWH, tack that on with the 30% discount and there's never been a better time to try them out.

[Obijuan91]

Just got my pair today and g’damn them things loose as fuck. Wheelbite city but I’m running 54s on em.
Anyone know how long these bushings take to break in or am I going to have to actually turn em and show king pin? Got a pair of Indy blues I’m already thinking of switching in

[Micki Free]

Just got my pair today and g’damn them things loose as fuck. Wheelbite city but I’m running 54s on em.
Anyone know how long these bushings take to break in or am I going to have to actually turn em and show king pin? Got a pair of Indy blues I’m already thinking of switching in

They stayed pretty loose for me even after skating a bit. I ride pretty loose trucks, so i actually liked the looseness and that they didnt harden up in the cold. But i also run 52s so at 54s youll probably want to tighten them up a bit or get Harder bushings tbh.

[Xen]

Just got my pair today and g’damn them things loose as fuck. Wheelbite city but I’m running 54s on em.
Anyone know how long these bushings take to break in or am I going to have to actually turn em and show king pin? Got a pair of Indy blues I’m already thinking of switching in

They don't firm up....note that the bottom bushing is taller than indy bottoms (I ran indy blues in them, it was fine but lots of pin showing); ACE bushings are perfect fit.

[Obijuan91]

Wondering if tightening them down shortens the wheelbase to Indy territory since I seen somewhere that it’s at 3.05
Anyone know if the old Indy classic bushings that are meant for the stage 4s the same height?
Everyone talks about how good the bushings are in the cold so I’m wondering if they’re more of an east coast winter type of vibe cuz if they’re going to mush up during the summer then they’re not worth me trying to make them work

[Gray Imp Sausage Metal]

I think I just ordered some inverted kingpin 159s for shits and giggles …

[Xen]

Wondering if tightening them down shortens the wheelbase to Indy territory since I seen somewhere that it’s at 3.05
Anyone know if the old Indy classic bushings that are meant for the stage 4s the same height?
Everyone talks about how good the bushings are in the cold so I’m wondering if they’re more of an east coast winter type of vibe cuz if they’re going to mush up during the summer then they’re not worth me trying to make them work

The bottom bushing is the same size as an ace or thunder bottom bushing; tops are regular sized.

The Indy stage four bushings The bottom is on par with aces, I believe, and the tops are where it’s really taller like the current ace tops.

Clearly that style geometry requires a taller top bushing.

[Obijuan91]

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Wondering if tightening them down shortens the wheelbase to Indy territory since I seen somewhere that it’s at 3.05
Anyone know if the old Indy classic bushings that are meant for the stage 4s the same height?
Everyone talks about how good the bushings are in the cold so I’m wondering if they’re more of an east coast winter type of vibe cuz if they’re going to mush up during the summer then they’re not worth me trying to make them work

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The bottom bushing is the same size as an ace or thunder bottom bushing; tops are regular sized.

The Indy stage four bushings The bottom is on par with aces, I believe, and the tops are where it’s really taller like the current ace tops.

Clearly that style geometry requires a taller top bushing.

Thank you sir for all of you knowledge on all the threads I have gone trying to figure out my mid truck madness. I threw a flat washer inside the bottom washer and it made the buttom bushing the same height. Feels great now, and these trucks are great. Madness solved.

[moonordie]

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Wondering if tightening them down shortens the wheelbase to Indy territory since I seen somewhere that it’s at 3.05
Anyone know if the old Indy classic bushings that are meant for the stage 4s the same height?
Everyone talks about how good the bushings are in the cold so I’m wondering if they’re more of an east coast winter type of vibe cuz if they’re going to mush up during the summer then they’re not worth me trying to make them work

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The bottom bushing is the same size as an ace or thunder bottom bushing; tops are regular sized.

The Indy stage four bushings The bottom is on par with aces, I believe, and the tops are where it’s really taller like the current ace tops.

Clearly that style geometry requires a taller top bushing.

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Thank you sir for all of you knowledge on all the threads I have gone trying to figure out my mid truck madness. I threw a flat washer inside the bottom washer and it made the buttom bushing the same height. Feels great now, and these trucks are great. Madness solved.

For now...

[Xen]

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Wondering if tightening them down shortens the wheelbase to Indy territory since I seen somewhere that it’s at 3.05
Anyone know if the old Indy classic bushings that are meant for the stage 4s the same height?
Everyone talks about how good the bushings are in the cold so I’m wondering if they’re more of an east coast winter type of vibe cuz if they’re going to mush up during the summer then they’re not worth me trying to make them work

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The bottom bushing is the same size as an ace or thunder bottom bushing; tops are regular sized.

The Indy stage four bushings The bottom is on par with aces, I believe, and the tops are where it’s really taller like the current ace tops.

Clearly that style geometry requires a taller top bushing.

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Thank you sir for all of you knowledge on all the threads I have gone trying to figure out my mid truck madness. I threw a flat washer inside the bottom washer and it made the buttom bushing the same height. Feels great now, and these trucks are great. Madness solved.

Does it rattle? Seems like it might?

[Obijuan91]

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Wondering if tightening them down shortens the wheelbase to Indy territory since I seen somewhere that it’s at 3.05
Anyone know if the old Indy classic bushings that are meant for the stage 4s the same height?
Everyone talks about how good the bushings are in the cold so I’m wondering if they’re more of an east coast winter type of vibe cuz if they’re going to mush up during the summer then they’re not worth me trying to make them work

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The bottom bushing is the same size as an ace or thunder bottom bushing; tops are regular sized.

The Indy stage four bushings The bottom is on par with aces, I believe, and the tops are where it’s really taller like the current ace tops.

Clearly that style geometry requires a taller top bushing.

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Thank you sir for all of you knowledge on all the threads I have gone trying to figure out my mid truck madness. I threw a flat washer inside the bottom washer and it made the buttom bushing the same height. Feels great now, and these trucks are great. Madness solved.

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Does it rattle? Seems like it might?

It did when I had the over sized fender washers under the bottom truck washer.l bought a flat 3/8” washer that fit inside the bottom truck washer but the bushing on top of it and it’s fine. No rattling and it fit perfect.

[Xen]

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Wondering if tightening them down shortens the wheelbase to Indy territory since I seen somewhere that it’s at 3.05
Anyone know if the old Indy classic bushings that are meant for the stage 4s the same height?
Everyone talks about how good the bushings are in the cold so I’m wondering if they’re more of an east coast winter type of vibe cuz if they’re going to mush up during the summer then they’re not worth me trying to make them work

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The bottom bushing is the same size as an ace or thunder bottom bushing; tops are regular sized.

The Indy stage four bushings The bottom is on par with aces, I believe, and the tops are where it’s really taller like the current ace tops.

Clearly that style geometry requires a taller top bushing.

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Thank you sir for all of you knowledge on all the threads I have gone trying to figure out my mid truck madness. I threw a flat washer inside the bottom washer and it made the buttom bushing the same height. Feels great now, and these trucks are great. Madness solved.

@Obijuan91

So the Stage IV infdy bushings do not fit (sorta).

Both the bottom and top are taller than everything I have (venture/indy/thunder/ace/royal/etc.) However, the tops are close enough to ACE tops that you could use a standard royal/ace bottom and stage IV top to eat up the showing threads.

[Obijuan91]

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Wondering if tightening them down shortens the wheelbase to Indy territory since I seen somewhere that it’s at 3.05
Anyone know if the old Indy classic bushings that are meant for the stage 4s the same height?
Everyone talks about how good the bushings are in the cold so I’m wondering if they’re more of an east coast winter type of vibe cuz if they’re going to mush up during the summer then they’re not worth me trying to make them work

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The bottom bushing is the same size as an ace or thunder bottom bushing; tops are regular sized.

The Indy stage four bushings The bottom is on par with aces, I believe, and the tops are where it’s really taller like the current ace tops.

Clearly that style geometry requires a taller top bushing.

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Thank you sir for all of you knowledge on all the threads I have gone trying to figure out my mid truck madness. I threw a flat washer inside the bottom washer and it made the buttom bushing the same height. Feels great now, and these trucks are great. Madness solved.

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@Obijuan91

So the Stage IV infdy bushings do not fit (sorta).

Both the bottom and top are taller than everything I have (venture/indy/thunder/ace/royal/etc.) However, the tops are close enough to ACE tops that you could use a standard royal/ace bottom and stage IV top to eat up the showing threads.

That’s good to know. I ended up giving in and got the pig bushings but I haven’t been able to skate to fully see how they feel with just a thread showing. Good looking out tho I’ll keep that in mind if these don’t work

[southphillytapwater]

I read this entire thread a couple weeks ago and ordered myself a pair of 149s. I've skated them three times now and I like them a lot. Pretty much what everyone else has said is 100% true. They feel like a perfect mix of Indy and Thunder. They turn better than Thunders, but not as much as Indy. They're more stable, pop better, and have better pinch than Indy, but not as good as Thunder. I'm much more comfortable skating ledges with these than Indy's, and they skate transition just as well and Indy's too. The 52mm height also feels better locking into coping on pivots, stand up grinds, and smiths. I'm on 54mm conical wheels and the wheelbite isn't too bad either. They really are the ideal all-around truck.

The only thing I don't agree with what others said is the comparison to Ventures. I don't think they feel like Ventures at all.

These are pretty close to curing my madness, but I prefer to skate ledges with 144s and transition with 149s. So I'm doomed to being stuck with multiple set ups. That said, I have a pair of barely skated Thunder 148s if any wants to trade for some Royal 144s. DM me if you want some photos or are interested.

[Obijuan91]

The only thing I don't agree with what others said is the comparison sto Ventures. I don't think they feel like Ventures at all.

When you get a full tighten on them they’re stable like ventures, I finally settled on ace hard bushings and they feel stable like ventures but still have all that turn

[Xen]

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The only thing I don't agree with what others said is the comparison sto Ventures. I don't think they feel like Ventures at all.

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When you get a full tighten on them they’re stable like ventures, I finally settled on ace hard bushings and they feel stable like ventures but still have all that turn

They really shine with hard bushings; I usually run Ace hard in them as well, but you could also use the krux hard as they fit just fine.

[southphillytapwater]

Hmm, I may try some Ace hard bushings when I get my smaller set. The extra stability will be nice for skating ledges.

[Obijuan91]

Yea I can’t believe I waited so long to switch to the ace hards. Regular bushings tightened down good, pig 91s better, ace hard bushings best tho

[Sila]

So Ace are the go for replacement bushings? Really like my Royals but the stock bushings just don't feel right at any tightness for me.

[Obijuan91]

So Ace are the go for replacement bushings? Really like my Royals but the stock bushings just don't feel right at any tightness for me.

In my experience yes, I tried the pig bushings and those were good but when I was tightening them down to where I like em the top washer cup mashed all weird. As soon as I put in the aces on tho it was it, easy pop and still had the turn. Top bushings taller but idk I didn’t feel that was a problem. You can try running krux too like @xen said but man the aces let these trucks shine

[Xen]

The top Ace bushing is taller but I’ve never run into an issue using them; it also eats up a few threads on the kingpin . Not sure they they use such a long pin, they could easily use a shorter one unless it’s a cost issue.

[dublak2]

I found that the cheap dime bag bushings square up to the royal bushings exactly. I swapped in the 98A after using Bones hard but I have not skated the new bushings yet. Bones worked better than stock, which were not even skateable to me, but I'm still looking to stiffen them up even a little more.