questions that don't deserve their own thread

[FrenchSkater]

Has anyone ever tried orthopedic insoles?

My doctor advised me because I have a slight shift in the hips, so one leg is shorter than the other. I doubt the effectiveness of soles, I tell myself that pro skaters only skate the soles of origin  .. sometimes from the footprints but they are not necessarily "medical" insoles, and when I think about it .. we all have our natural body defects, right ?

Honestly, my priority is to protect myself from shocks and take care of my body. That's why I only skate cupsoles now , BUT.. I tell myself that listening to specialist advice is still important.. What do you think ?

[SupremePizza]

I'd definitely listen to your specialist or at the very least try an FP, Remind or preferably Superfeet insoles. I've been running the FP gamechangers for the last few years but will be switching to Superfeet once I'm done with these dunks . I can say they definitely help my knees from getting sore as quickly.

[KidCarl]

Expand Quote

How a deck sounds vs how it feels

Recently picked up some decks and they sounded waterlogged, didn't have the crisp snap of a BBS when I tapped it against the ground without trucks or when it's setup and I snap the deck to my hand. But when I'm riding them they feel just fine.

Crailtap / DSM decks have a very deep resonance when you tap the deck against the ground, like the epoxy or press method they use compresses the plys too much resulting in an overly stiff deck.

I know guys who write off decks that sound off, but those I'm riding feel fine. Not exceptional like a BBS but hardly anything feels like a BBS.

Judging a deck by how it sounds is the most un-scientific approach to judging it's longevity, but is there any truth to the sound of a deck or is it just baloney? I want to believe the latter, I need 1 less factor of madness in my life.

[close]

i noticed the sound of my PS Stix board is a lot more "stiff" or "Flat" sounding than my BBS boards (sounds more like a Dutch Clog hitting the floor). as far as the way it snaps, both of them feel almost identical. I didnt notice any difference transitioning between them.

Same, my last pstix deck felt stiff and almost too solid, and weirdly felt like it had no life to it, or "energy". Not trying to be all hippy dippy but a BBS deck in comparison just felt better, the wood seemed nicer, and one I got more attached to. The ps stix board lost pop in a few weeks and I was glad to get off of it.

[KidCarl]

I'm lost when it comes to wheel shapes, but my question is with something like a conical, can you skate them flipped? I've always skated classics mainly, to the best of my memory, and have always put the graphics inward, just as a habit probably from watching pros do it. Can I still do that with a shaped wheel or does that defeat the purpose? Thanks pals

[Mbrimson88]

Expand Quote

Ok so, I feel really stupid even asking this, but with Spitifire's lock in shape, it means you can't rotate your wheels to get more life out of them right? Or just a different riding experience?

[close]

you're not gonna cone F4's. you can move them front to back, right side, left side, ect, ect... and that will even out any wheel size differences, there's no need to flip F4's inside out.

It comes down to how someone skates.

I just got a set of F4 back from someone who had never rotated them, so the starting 56 mm, now 55 (front heel) 54 and solidly coned (front toe) 52 (back heel) and 51 slightly coned (back toe) I was just wondering what the person was doing for however long they had them to wear like that, but most people who do rotate wheels never have those sort of end results.

Front toe and back toe to some degree wear more on the outside edge, front heel not much at all, back heel wears more on the inside edge, so as said, rotating them in various ways usually keeps any issues from coming up too much, more so front toe to back heel, back toe to front heel, then to back heel if needed.

Any asymmetrical shaped wheel can have issues though, especially if you don't want to ever flip them over and skate them inwards, but I haven't seen the new ones to see if they are center set or offset in the bearing seat.  If they are center set, then it is not such a big deal to flip them over, but if offset, then you are going to have some very different experiences skating them graphics out or graphics in.

I'm lost when it comes to wheel shapes, but my question is with something like a conical, can you skate them flipped? I've always skated classics mainly, to the best of my memory, and have always put the graphics inward, just as a habit probably from watching pros do it. Can I still do that with a shaped wheel or does that defeat the purpose? Thanks pals

Almost every other shape on the market is symmetrical, so it doesn't matter if you ride them graphics in or out and a lot of people flip them with odd wear patterns too, so some will be in and some out on the same board.  A "cool way" to do it for a lot of people was three in and one out, not that I have ever been into the cool way to do things, but I think they always had the back heel out so they wouldn't have to look at the graphic but still showed what wheel they were on, or something like that.

For those that remove graphics, it makes it easier to ride them any which way you like, but more often than not, graphics in was the more simple and clean look from the 90s right through to the present.

[BALARGUE]

Don't look further this is the academic answer you're looking for 

[in love w/ fs shuvs]

anyone try hopps boards? do they have good shapes?
i like gx board shapes fyi

[DarkPools]

All wheels will cone eventually if you skate them long enough or hard enough. 100% of wheels I've owned and skated have coned in some amount. Including F4 (skated 3-4 sets over the last few years)

[LebowskisRug]

Has anyone ever tried orthopedic insoles?

My doctor advised me because I have a slight shift in the hips, so one leg is shorter than the other. I doubt the effectiveness of soles, I tell myself that pro skaters only skate the soles of origin  .. sometimes from the footprints but they are not necessarily "medical" insoles, and when I think about it .. we all have our natural body defects, right ?

Honestly, my priority is to protect myself from shocks and take care of my body. That's why I only skate cupsoles now , BUT.. I tell myself that listening to specialist advice is still important.. What do you think ?

I use Superfeet insoles in all shoes but Tiagos. I tried Remind and thought they sucked but they at least have useful arch support. FP don't, even if you heat mold them the foam still ends up too soft and doesn't actually push into the rear of your arch. I'm 37 and on days I don't skate I rock climb and I find my joints feel more recovered when I am using supportive insoles.

[JANUS]

Expand Quote

Has anyone ever tried orthopedic insoles?

My doctor advised me because I have a slight shift in the hips, so one leg is shorter than the other. I doubt the effectiveness of soles, I tell myself that pro skaters only skate the soles of origin  .. sometimes from the footprints but they are not necessarily "medical" insoles, and when I think about it .. we all have our natural body defects, right ?

Honestly, my priority is to protect myself from shocks and take care of my body. That's why I only skate cupsoles now , BUT.. I tell myself that listening to specialist advice is still important.. What do you think ?

[close]

I use Superfeet insoles in all shoes but Tiagos. I tried Remind and thought they sucked but they at least have useful arch support. FP don't, even if you heat mold them the foam still ends up too soft and doesn't actually push into the rear of your arch. I'm 37 and on days I don't skate I rock climb and I find my joints feel more recovered when I am using supportive insoles.

I also use superfeet and recommend them. If you have insurance or it’s not prohibitively expensive, I’d suggest trying orthotics made for you by the specialist, and if you don’t like them try superfeet, then the other insoles. I’d imagine correcting for a difference in leg length could really help. Personally, I really disliked the orthotics I had made for me and reverted to superfeet, but you may have a different experience given that I only needed the arch support. Goddamn I need caffeine.

[LebowskisRug]

anyone try hopps boards? do they have good shapes?
i like gx board shapes fyi

Hoops uses the BBS generic shapes but did do a Clutch run during Covid. These shapes are really the most in between popsicles out- not pointy, not square, kicks are medium steepness and medium lengths. If you skate 8.38 and up the WB will be longer than a GX.

[Mystical Leader]

I want to try black wheels. Probably some spitfires F4's.

I've only had the classic white colorways so I'm pondering if it will affect my skating from a visual standpoint? Have you pals ever got bored with colored wheels? I run my shit to the ground so I don't want to skate something that maybe I don't like. Yet it still intrigues me to try..

Is there a consensus how black wheels are viewed in our scene? 

[backside_frontside]

I want to try black wheels. Probably some spitfires F4's.

I've only had the classic white colorways so I'm pondering if it will affect my skating from a visual standpoint? Have you pals ever got bored with colored wheels? I run my shit to the ground so I don't want to skate something that maybe I don't like. Yet it still intrigues me to try..

Is there a consensus how black wheels are viewed in our scene?

I think black wheels are kinda having a moment right now. #emowheels. Or at least the kids at my local seem to like them. Personally, I prefer the clean look of classic white wheels with graphics inward. All wheels are gonna be pretty gnarly looking after you've skated them for a few months, especially if you're skating street. I wouldn't let it bother you.

[Banned from the room]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

alright, it's gettin time to buy some new trucks. I've never been one for truck madness, but I'm starting to want to try something else out there. I'm going to omit what brand and version I have ridden for the past 4 years in an effort to be "transparent".

I am an averagely-ok skateboarder who tries to skate a bit of everything, but more or less skates slappies, ledges, wallies, and the occasional manual. My transition skills are actually terrible, but I am actively working on improving them. Not a big gap/stair/impact skater. I'd say I skate my trucks somewhere between tight and loose, probably more towards loose. Turning fast is fun but I also do appreciate stability. I skate an 8.5 with big-ish (56-58mm conical full) wheels, so I generally like my trucks to be lighter to offset the weight of everything else.

What kind of trucks match my riding style? I feel like thats enough info for the truck-heads to asses the situation.

[close]

I'd recommend V-Lights 5.8

[close]

id say 6.1 v-hollows

Let's be honest. Any Venture will do.

Get down with the get down. Awake!!!!

[Banned from the room]

I need help finding an old PSA TV commercial about HIV.

I can't remember how it starts but it's filmed from the pov of someone who goes up the fire escape and into the bed room of a young person who is depicted of having the virus and definitely didn't want this person in their room.

The hook from song BOOM BOOM by Vengaboys plays in the background and I think it winds down like the tape is getting eaten after just one bar.

The kid in the bed gets up real fast looking like they are scared of who ever just popped into their room with a camera.

It's a very confusing commercial.

It's like Steve Irwin climbed the fire escape with a boom box and a camera and is trying to subdue the person who was just laying in bed in their underwear.

I believe it's been intentionally scrubbed from the web. Probably the band didn't give permission for the song to be used as it doesn't appear on their Wikipedia.

I just wanna see it. It gave me nightmares and shit. I wanna see it once more

Plz help me find.

[KidCarl]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

Ok so, I feel really stupid even asking this, but with Spitifire's lock in shape, it means you can't rotate your wheels to get more life out of them right? Or just a different riding experience?

[close]

you're not gonna cone F4's. you can move them front to back, right side, left side, ect, ect... and that will even out any wheel size differences, there's no need to flip F4's inside out.

[close]

It comes down to how someone skates.

I just got a set of F4 back from someone who had never rotated them, so the starting 56 mm, now 55 (front heel) 54 and solidly coned (front toe) 52 (back heel) and 51 slightly coned (back toe) I was just wondering what the person was doing for however long they had them to wear like that, but most people who do rotate wheels never have those sort of end results.

Front toe and back toe to some degree wear more on the outside edge, front heel not much at all, back heel wears more on the inside edge, so as said, rotating them in various ways usually keeps any issues from coming up too much, more so front toe to back heel, back toe to front heel, then to back heel if needed.

Any asymmetrical shaped wheel can have issues though, especially if you don't want to ever flip them over and skate them inwards, but I haven't seen the new ones to see if they are center set or offset in the bearing seat.  If they are center set, then it is not such a big deal to flip them over, but if offset, then you are going to have some very different experiences skating them graphics out or graphics in.

Expand Quote

I'm lost when it comes to wheel shapes, but my question is with something like a conical, can you skate them flipped? I've always skated classics mainly, to the best of my memory, and have always put the graphics inward, just as a habit probably from watching pros do it. Can I still do that with a shaped wheel or does that defeat the purpose? Thanks pals

[close]

Almost every other shape on the market is symmetrical, so it doesn't matter if you ride them graphics in or out and a lot of people flip them with odd wear patterns too, so some will be in and some out on the same board.  A "cool way" to do it for a lot of people was three in and one out, not that I have ever been into the cool way to do things, but I think they always had the back heel out so they wouldn't have to look at the graphic but still showed what wheel they were on, or something like that.

For those that remove graphics, it makes it easier to ride them any which way you like, but more often than not, graphics in was the more simple and clean look from the 90s right through to the present.

Sweet, I was thinking it would mess with the lock in qualities. I know what you mean, doesn't Jake Hayes ride three white with colored up front? My brain can't even comprehend it.

[Mystical Leader]

Expand Quote

I want to try black wheels. Probably some spitfires F4's.

I've only had the classic white colorways so I'm pondering if it will affect my skating from a visual standpoint? Have you pals ever got bored with colored wheels? I run my shit to the ground so I don't want to skate something that maybe I don't like. Yet it still intrigues me to try..

Is there a consensus how black wheels are viewed in our scene?

[close]

I think black wheels are kinda having a moment right now. #emowheels. Or at least the kids at my local seem to like them. Personally, I prefer the clean look of classic white wheels with graphics inward. All wheels are gonna be pretty gnarly looking after you've skated them for a few months, especially if you're skating street. I wouldn't let it bother you.

Yeah they can be a bit moody. Like a teenager who hates their parents and loves fa/hockey. Also I’m like over thirty so I might feel a little silly indulging with youth trends. How insecure ahaha.. To be fair I’m a little bit moody so why not tho..

But at the same time car wheels are black why aren’t they white? I don’t even know how this counts in? I mean ride a hot rod type of setup so I suppose..

[Made In China]

I want to try black wheels. Probably some spitfires F4's.

I've only had the classic white colorways so I'm pondering if it will affect my skating from a visual standpoint? Have you pals ever got bored with colored wheels? I run my shit to the ground so I don't want to skate something that maybe I don't like. Yet it still intrigues me to try..

Is there a consensus how black wheels are viewed in our scene?

I've been skating pink wheels for well over a year now, and I've been really enjoying them. I actually want to try to get some black wheels after these too. I find that the colored wheels don't really affect my skating, but they are very apparent in clips I film. It makes me more stoked on my clips but that's just me I guess.

[rawbertson.]

Let's be honest. Any Venture will do.

Get down with the get down. Awake!!!!

Have you seen that Venture parody shirt that says "ASLEEP" ?  i laughed when i saw that

Do any of you guys rotate your trucks after switching deck? I started doing this to make my trucks last longer, i don't know if i recommend it though. if you are mostly just doing slappys its fine.

[SupremePizza]

I want to try black wheels. Probably some spitfires F4's.

I've only had the classic white colorways so I'm pondering if it will affect my skating from a visual standpoint? Have you pals ever got bored with colored wheels? I run my shit to the ground so I don't want to skate something that maybe I don't like. Yet it still intrigues me to try..

Is there a consensus how black wheels are viewed in our scene?

Always down for colored wheels. When I was a kid I'd only buy colored wheels, brand didn't matter. Currently on a set of pink Spitfire classics and will try dying my next set of wheels if Spitfire doesn't come out with a colored radial

[Mbrimson88]

Expand Quote

Expand Quote

I want to try black wheels. Probably some spitfires F4's.

I've only had the classic white colorways so I'm pondering if it will affect my skating from a visual standpoint? Have you pals ever got bored with colored wheels? I run my shit to the ground so I don't want to skate something that maybe I don't like. Yet it still intrigues me to try..

Is there a consensus how black wheels are viewed in our scene?

[close]

I think black wheels are kinda having a moment right now. #emowheels. Or at least the kids at my local seem to like them. Personally, I prefer the clean look of classic white wheels with graphics inward. All wheels are gonna be pretty gnarly looking after you've skated them for a few months, especially if you're skating street. I wouldn't let it bother you.

[close]

Yeah they can be a bit moody. Like a teenager who hates their parents and loves fa/hockey. Also I’m like over thirty so I might feel a little silly indulging with youth trends. How insecure ahaha.. To be fair I’m a little bit moody so why not tho..

But at the same time car wheels are black why aren’t they white? I don’t even know how this counts in? I mean ride a hot rod type of setup so I suppose..

I've been skating pink wheels for well over a year now, and I've been really enjoying them. I actually want to try to get some black wheels after these too. I find that the colored wheels don't really affect my skating, but they are very apparent in clips I film. It makes me more stoked on my clips but that's just me I guess.

If it comes down to how much OCD you might get with things that match or don't match, it could go a bit weird, otherwise having a bit of colour / flair in the wheel department is a good way to make things a little more interesting.

Sure I tend to get a bit more here and there, removing all graphics from wheels, deck or whatever, but other times having a board or two with coloured wheels can be more fun than not.  I have the teal wheels on a board right now, but I also had black wheels too, as well as two black and two orange from back in the day that I still have.  They were fun!

Thankfully having the same urethane compounds now with different dyes doesn't affect the product like it used to once upon a time, but I do think there are more coloured wheels coming out soon too, including more black wheels, so someone might be in luck.

Sweet, I was thinking it would mess with the lock in qualities. I know what you mean, doesn't Jake Hayes ride three white with colored up front? My brain can't even comprehend it.

As to the one coloured wheel thing, I know some brands did sell the one, Spitfire Lance Mountain, Grosso and others, with quite a few people playing mix and match as well, getting one set of coloured wheels and adding them in to three sets of plain wheels to give it a little more flair.

Again personal opinion and making it just that little bit more fun, or maybe running the one coloured wheel in a certain position on the board, eg always back heel or front heel or something, but I don't think those guys really cared about having to rotate wheels due to wear - they put them on and when they had enough, just swap them out, but for any other normal person, not a pro with a carton of spare wheels, it could get a bit more tricky.

Still wouldn't hurt to always do something a little different and have a bit of fun with it.

[moonordie]

Expand Quote

Let's be honest. Any Venture will do.

Get down with the get down. Awake!!!!

[close]

Have you seen that Venture parody shirt that says "ASLEEP" ?  i laughed when i saw that

Do any of you guys rotate your trucks after switching deck? I started doing this to make my trucks last longer, i don't know if i recommend it though. if you are mostly just doing slappys its fine.

When I'm doing it is when my back truck is showing some axle but sure makes more sense to rotate them in between decks, never thought about it 😅

[JugeL]

Do any of you guys rotate your trucks after switching deck? I started doing this to make my trucks last longer, i don't know if i recommend it though. if you are mostly just doing slappys its fine.

Most of my grinds are slappys, but yea i don't care which truck is front and which one is back. Only thing that's different about them is that i don't really have switch front crooks groove but i'm working on it.

[manysnakes]

My beloved stash of Primitive decks is dwindling, so I'm checking out the options on their website and am wondering if anyone ever figured out whether or not the "Dirty P Core" decks were the same as the Pro decks. I assume not because they're so much cheaper than even the "Team" decks, but who knows.

[moonordie]

My beloved stash of Primitive decks is dwindling, so I'm checking out the options on their website and am wondering if anyone ever figured out whether or not the "Dirty P Core" decks were the same as the Pro decks. I assume not because they're so much cheaper than even the "Team" decks, but who knows.

I had this one and I really enjoyed even if it was a dipped one

[manysnakes]

Expand Quote

My beloved stash of Primitive decks is dwindling, so I'm checking out the options on their website and am wondering if anyone ever figured out whether or not the "Dirty P Core" decks were the same as the Pro decks. I assume not because they're so much cheaper than even the "Team" decks, but who knows.

[close]

I had this one and I really enjoyed even if it was a dipped one

Thanks. The price is right, maybe I'll take the plunge. My sense is to wait until Labor Day weekend and see if Primitive does another super sale.

[moonordie]

Anybody knows the deal with those Lakai with a thunder looking like Flare?

[rawbertson.]

My beloved stash of Primitive decks is dwindling, so I'm checking out the options on their website and am wondering if anyone ever figured out whether or not the "Dirty P Core" decks were the same as the Pro decks. I assume not because they're so much cheaper than even the "Team" decks, but who knows.

my friend that works there said that the only boards that are not done by BBS are the collab boards because sometimes the other party will have the final say over where the board is manufactured (from what i understand the other company decides the margin is not good enough on the BBS boards and thats why they end up going to some other cheaper shop for those because most of thme dont end up getting skated anyway)

[Yossi]

So the decks that come with wheel wells (ie Polar) are useless if you skate Indys, right? My wheel bite marks are much lower on my board than the Polar wheel wells appear to be from looking at pics online.

[Basingstoke]

I rode a Polar 8" with Independent Titanium 139 and 52mm SF Classic Fulls, the wheel wheels worked for me.