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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4380 on: December 15, 2023, 01:17:24 PM »
Super mellow, flat boards take more effort (in a way) to skate. Basically, if the concave and kicks are mellower, you have to kick way harder to get the board to flip. Takes longer for your foot to catch the edge of the nose/tail to initiate a kickflip or heelflip, for example. With steeper (relative to flatter boards) concave/kicks, the flick is more responsive and doesn't need you to kick as hard as Bruce Lee because of the pronounced concave/kicks.

Neen, notorious for heelflips, did his ninja kick style partly because he was skating mellower boards. Most of the dudes with super extendo flicks on their flip tricks tend to skate mellower boards from what I've seen.

I think working on timing and foot placement for pop/flipping will help improve your consistency
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4381 on: December 15, 2023, 10:54:49 PM »
What happened to Thrasher 's "This old Ledge" videos on YouTube, I swear I read some where that Ted was filming more of them.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4382 on: December 15, 2023, 11:10:50 PM »
Yeah my impression is he’s doing more….maybe NYC?

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4383 on: December 16, 2023, 12:27:15 AM »
I thought so. The UN plaza video reminded me of that series. Hopefully they are just waiting for SOTY madness to settle.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4384 on: December 16, 2023, 06:06:35 AM »
Older guys that skate vulcs, please tell me your secret. I skate cupsoles but only so that my feet and back don’t hurt.

Do y’all just be dealing with foot pain all the time or do you use some magic insoles?

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« Reply #4385 on: December 16, 2023, 08:05:46 AM »
What happened to Thrasher 's "This old Ledge" videos on YouTube, I swear I read some where that Ted was filming more of them.

They're splitting it into seasons, AFAIK. So season one was around SF, two will be in NYC, etc.

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« Reply #4386 on: December 16, 2023, 08:12:56 AM »
Older guys that skate vulcs, please tell me your secret. I skate cupsoles but only so that my feet and back don’t hurt.

Do y’all just be dealing with foot pain all the time or do you use some magic insoles?

43 and I skate primarily in vulcanized shoes. I don't use any magic insoles, usually just what was included with the shoe. I think the trick is to keep and maintain strong feet. I'm not particularly strong in other ways - I don't go to the gym or lift, nothing like that. I do a lot of standing, walking, hiking, cycling, and some running. I bring a lacrosse ball without me every time I skate and I spend 5-10 minutes rolling the ball around on my feet to stretch out the muscles. I warm up my ankles and feet with therabands almost every day, especially since I experience I really bad ankle roll a few years ago.

I think foot and ankle strength is pretty overlooked, but also I don't blame anyone who just opts for cupsoles.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4387 on: December 16, 2023, 08:26:13 AM »
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Older guys that skate vulcs, please tell me your secret. I skate cupsoles but only so that my feet and back don’t hurt.

Do y’all just be dealing with foot pain all the time or do you use some magic insoles?
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43 and I skate primarily in vulcanized shoes. I don't use any magic insoles, usually just what was included with the shoe. I think the trick is to keep and maintain strong feet. I'm not particularly strong in other ways - I don't go to the gym or lift, nothing like that. I do a lot of standing, walking, hiking, cycling, and some running. I bring a lacrosse ball without me every time I skate and I spend 5-10 minutes rolling the ball around on my feet to stretch out the muscles. I warm up my ankles and feet with therabands almost every day, especially since I experience I really bad ankle roll a few years ago.

I think foot and ankle strength is pretty overlooked, but also I don't blame anyone who just opts for cupsoles.

Yeah that’s probably what I should be doing. I miss vulcs.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4388 on: December 16, 2023, 12:27:45 PM »
Maybe this territory’s already been covered, but I’ve been thinking about turning some of these older sets of wheels (F4 99) that I’ve worn from 56 down to about 52mm into “little smokies” of a sort, like a 50mm classic shape or something, by turning/cutting them on a lathe.
Anybody already try this?
Thoughts?
Wondering how I’d rig a jig to cut a consistent sidewall profile.
I don’t know shit about machining, BTW.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4389 on: December 16, 2023, 12:36:32 PM »
Maybe this territory’s already been covered, but I’ve been thinking about turning some of these older sets of wheels (F4 99) that I’ve worn from 56 down to about 52mm into “little smokies” of a sort, like a 50mm classic shape or something, by turning/cutting them on a lathe.
Anybody already try this?
Thoughts?
Wondering how I’d rig a jig to cut a consistent sidewall profile.
I don’t know shit about machining, BTW.

Paging @Mbrimson88

I did that with some old 80hds. Took a block of wood, cut out a hole with the radius I wanted(1/16” bigger than), epoxied some tubing on it and then stuck sand paper on it(progressively finer grits and just rough it somewhat close but save it for the final finishing grit ie 320) and chucked the wheels on some all thread in a drill press. Worked well.
I think I tossed the radius jig when I moved though. There may be pics in my posts somewhere.
If you’re using a lathe it should be fairly easy(assuming you know some who can show you how to use it) with good results.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4390 on: December 16, 2023, 01:17:30 PM »
Maybe this territory’s already been covered, but I’ve been thinking about turning some of these older sets of wheels (F4 99) that I’ve worn from 56 down to about 52mm into “little smokies” of a sort, like a 50mm classic shape or something, by turning/cutting them on a lathe.
Anybody already try this?
Thoughts?
Wondering how I’d rig a jig to cut a consistent sidewall profile.
I don’t know shit about machining, BTW.
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4391 on: December 16, 2023, 01:36:45 PM »
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Maybe this territory’s already been covered, but I’ve been thinking about turning some of these older sets of wheels (F4 99) that I’ve worn from 56 down to about 52mm into “little smokies” of a sort, like a 50mm classic shape or something, by turning/cutting them on a lathe.
Anybody already try this?
Thoughts?
Wondering how I’d rig a jig to cut a consistent sidewall profile.
I don’t know shit about machining, BTW.
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Paging @Mbrimson88

I did that with some old 80hds. Took a block of wood, cut out a hole with the radius I wanted(1/16” bigger than), epoxied some tubing on it and then stuck sand paper on it(progressively finer grits and just rough it somewhat close but save it for the final finishing grit ie 320) and chucked the wheels on some all thread in a drill press. Worked well.
I think I tossed the radius jig when I moved though. There may be pics in my posts somewhere.
If you’re using a lathe it should be fairly easy(assuming you know some who can show you how to use it) with good results.



Yeah if you have access to a lathe, it is very easy.  Also very easy to destroy a wheel or yourself, so I am told, but this is a post from a friend who does have such access and skill.  He made his own shaping guide tool as well.







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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4392 on: December 16, 2023, 01:43:52 PM »
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My go to is just an angle grinder, so although I can do a pretty good job on any wheel, it doesn't have the "factory finish" look that someone with a lathe can achieve with a bit of patience and effort.

To note, when I have tried to take wheels down in size / diameter, I have often had mixed results, but just reshaping the side of the wheels is the main thing I do.

Get any old wheel, often squared off or looking pretty bad, then taking the sides down a bit or a lot, rounding them off or shaping them to whatever I like, so I have made some really round "Classic Full" and more rounded wheels in the past from some that were anything but rounded, eg Conical Full 58 mm down to under 50 mm and now rounded off to make some really nice fun width small wheels.






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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4393 on: December 16, 2023, 01:44:07 PM »
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Maybe this territory’s already been covered, but I’ve been thinking about turning some of these older sets of wheels (F4 99) that I’ve worn from 56 down to about 52mm into “little smokies” of a sort, like a 50mm classic shape or something, by turning/cutting them on a lathe.
Anybody already try this?
Thoughts?
Wondering how I’d rig a jig to cut a consistent sidewall profile.
I don’t know shit about machining, BTW.
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A fine question, my esteemed PAL.
Usually, I'll pass them on and let somebody else skate them.
But I'm still thrifty enough at heart to think that paying for a tiny wheel is kind of silly when there's already a set of them hiding right there of these blown-out conical fulls I have.
Plus, you seen the 56s once they get down to 52mm? Not much lip left, feel me?
Might as well do something with them, I reckon.
Anyway, I'm just thinking out loud over here; bouncing my dumb ideas of the homies.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4394 on: December 16, 2023, 02:21:44 PM »
i dont know anyone who skates exclusively transition.

what im wondering is, if you never leave the bowl/mini, when do you replace your deck and why?

when youre skating street or flat its easy to notice the sogging out or the loss of pop.

obviously you replace it when it legit breaks lol

Depends.

When I was a Grom skating nearly nothing but mini ramp I did a ton of pogos and disasters.
What's cooler than taking that trick to disaster or to truck?

Nothing.

It definitely wears your board down. Also if you're skating 6'+ chips are guaranteed to happen.

Also keep in mind I'm talking about boards in the 80s early 90s before the shrinkage

Also I was like 90lbs

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4395 on: December 16, 2023, 02:26:19 PM »
I need a wax suggestion.

I have to wax a 25' brick sidewalk for lipslides. The wax I've been using only works good on the edge and the face. The tops of my curbs always go dry and it's hard to keep up with that.

Candle wax takes all day.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4396 on: December 16, 2023, 02:33:00 PM »
rails....

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4397 on: December 16, 2023, 02:59:32 PM »
rails....


I just got but it's still not enough. The wheels bite the bricks and I get forced out to forward.

It's really like a high speed disaster pop out. Kills my knee.

Backside slides enough to go fakie but I'm not ready for all  that. I'm trying to get that Copley 99 feeling. That fuckin thing went.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4398 on: December 16, 2023, 10:56:59 PM »
Dragons?  Short of that….one of those huge candles and fire? 

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4399 on: December 17, 2023, 09:17:57 AM »
Anyone know the MSRP on the Krooked Ladybug Phantoms? DLX skate shop put out a clip with Eddie and Matt. Shit looks like fun, but I noticed a shop is charging $250 for it.

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« Reply #4400 on: December 17, 2023, 11:52:37 AM »
Has anyone ever weighed Bones vs Spit.

Feel like my Dragons are heavier than my new Spits. This seems impossible tho. The Dragons are like 55 x 33 started as 58mm Rat Bones twos. In my opinion its by far the best Bones shape. Followed by the discontinued DTF Ditch Tech Formula in second best shape ever. I would say the && Nano is that shape but the cores are drilled off set.

The Spit i just got is the 97a Conical Full 54x38 has no side cuts or whatever like my Dragons so the Spit should feel much heavier in hand. They dont. If i had a scale id look into it.

I am interested to know. I guess V2 vs Tabs would be the way to find out. Or better yet. V2 stf vs v2 Dragons or whatever shape is identical

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4401 on: December 17, 2023, 11:59:40 AM »
I’m more curious if anyone has ever weighed the average user…..my money is on the Dragons….

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4402 on: December 17, 2023, 02:44:41 PM »
Anyone know the MSRP on the Krooked Ladybug Phantoms? DLX skate shop put out a clip with Eddie and Matt. Shit looks like fun, but I noticed a shop is charging $250 for it.


My understanding is with those Krooked Gonz special boards, they are twice the cost to make, or something like that, so the retail price is going to be way up there as well, twice or more what a normal board would cost.

There was a video on it somewhere, but I can't find it right now, but someone from a shop explaining how they are made and what goes into them, cost of products and justifying why they are so expensive for the most part.  Of course if you were going to run a shop and have to charge that much, it would be good to explain why.

That's my take on it anyway, from a woodshop perspective.



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« Reply #4403 on: December 17, 2023, 02:59:19 PM »
I’m more curious if anyone has ever weighed the average user…..my money is on the Dragons….

True. Thin and Spit here.

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« Reply #4404 on: December 17, 2023, 03:14:45 PM »
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Anyone know the MSRP on the Krooked Ladybug Phantoms? DLX skate shop put out a clip with Eddie and Matt. Shit looks like fun, but I noticed a shop is charging $250 for it.
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My understanding is with those Krooked Gonz special boards, they are twice the cost to make, or something like that, so the retail price is going to be way up there as well, twice or more what a normal board would cost.

There was a video on it somewhere, but I can't find it right now, but someone from a shop explaining how they are made and what goes into them, cost of products and justifying why they are so expensive for the most part.  Of course if you were going to run a shop and have to charge that much, it would be good to explain why.

That's my take on it anyway, from a woodshop perspective.



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If I had the bread I'd pay it. I feel the end result product is worth it. I'd be ripping it too.

It's The Phantom Corsair. $$$

It also reminds me of that Toy he-man sword. The little one when you snapped the two halves together. Good memories. He man toys smell like heaven.

I fuckin love lady bugs too now I think about it. They keep me deep with wishes.

This to me is Top of the Top special product. I would definitely try to get a break on two if possible. Maybe 200 each?

That seems fair.

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4405 on: December 17, 2023, 04:21:28 PM »
I need a wax suggestion.

I have to wax a 25' brick sidewalk for lipslides. The wax I've been using only works good on the edge and the face. The tops of my curbs always go dry and it's hard to keep up with that.

Candle wax takes all day.

See if your grocery store has gulf wax in the canning supply aisle

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« Reply #4406 on: December 17, 2023, 06:02:55 PM »
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I need a wax suggestion.

I have to wax a 25' brick sidewalk for lipslides. The wax I've been using only works good on the edge and the face. The tops of my curbs always go dry and it's hard to keep up with that.

Candle wax takes all day.
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See if your grocery store has gulf wax in the canning supply aisle

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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4407 on: December 18, 2023, 03:31:18 AM »
Anyone know the MSRP on the Krooked Ladybug Phantoms? DLX skate shop put out a clip with Eddie and Matt. Shit looks like fun, but I noticed a shop is charging $250 for it.

here in France retail price should be around 180€-200€

It seems that shop is marking-up
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Re: questions that don't deserve their own thread
« Reply #4408 on: December 18, 2023, 05:23:27 AM »
Anyone know the MSRP on the Krooked Ladybug Phantoms? DLX skate shop put out a clip with Eddie and Matt. Shit looks like fun, but I noticed a shop is charging $250 for it.
should be around $200 in the USA. anything more than that and you're getting price gouged. you might be able to find some shops doing less than 200 though.

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« Reply #4409 on: December 18, 2023, 07:04:36 PM »
not sure why i got curious about this, but, i've been wondering about woodshop history. mainly, when did bbs move to mexico and where was the shop before, bay area? also wondering about nhs boards before move to china? did they have their own factory and was it in santa cruz area?