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[moonordie]

What's the difference between blazers mid abd blazers mid iso?

[Mbrimson88]

Has anyone rode a set of Thunders that came with black bushings. Is it just me or do they feel harder than a typical 90a Thunder bushing.

All stock bushings are said to be 90 duro, no matter the colour, clear or whatever else.  A guy I know has the black stock bushings that came on his raw team editions and they might feel ever so slightly stiffer than say the other stock clear colours or the white ones, but I also have some other stock bushings that feel way stiffer than those, for whatever reason, be it just age or who knows what.

At least if you don't like them, Thunder aftermarket bushings come in the stock 90 in both clear orange or white right now, or the rebuild kit in clear red 90, so you have options to replace them easily enough.

Yes, I immediately replaced them but I just assumed I didn't like them more b/c they were new not b/c of the color. I always keep any old stock white ones I have and replace new ones with them. In saying that stock and new clear blue were about as good as the white.

All new bushings are problematic. A good bushing will never feel right straight away and will feel very different once you've got it broken in.

Ha yeah - brand new bushings = find somewhere to just do laps or roll around and wear them in before even thinking of skating as usual, otherwise they often blow out or they just feel like they don't work well.

Had a few people set up new Thunder trucks recently, one didn't break them in as he should have - destroyed the bushings.  Another guy with the same trucks went really easy, as I had said to do - loves his new trucks now and the bushings feel perfect for him, as well as when we skated his board.

Sometimes I feel like I could have a market for very lightly used (and nicely broken in bushings) to supply to people who are too keen to wait and want to skate right now.  I usually have quite a few sets that I have just right, which I have taken out and are ready for whatever is needed in that regard, which have definitely helped some people, but it is a weird thing, like second hand shoes - sometimes you just need to get them and have them from new and do the hard work yourself.

[Mbrimson88]

What's the difference between blazers mid abd blazers mid iso?

I don't deal in Nike shoes at all, but I was curious, so checked and this is what came up.  Maybe they are the same exact shoes in a physical sense, maybe not, but it might just be a name, in the same way that at some point all the Nike shoes we had in a large store I worked in had SB after them, even though they were not at all the Skateboarding editions of the shoes.


What does Nike ISO stand for?

In-Store Only

An acronym for In-Store Only, the Nike Dunk ISO is exactly what it says in the tin. Pairs like the recent Nike SB Dunk High ISO ”Midnight Navy” were released exclusively in specific skate shops worldwide, making them a lot rarer than the usual pair.

[DinnerDog425]

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Has anyone rode a set of Thunders that came with black bushings. Is it just me or do they feel harder than a typical 90a Thunder bushing.

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All stock bushings are said to be 90 duro, no matter the colour, clear or whatever else.  A guy I know has the black stock bushings that came on his raw team editions and they might feel ever so slightly stiffer than say the other stock clear colours or the white ones, but I also have some other stock bushings that feel way stiffer than those, for whatever reason, be it just age or who knows what.

At least if you don't like them, Thunder aftermarket bushings come in the stock 90 in both clear orange or white right now, or the rebuild kit in clear red 90, so you have options to replace them easily enough.

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Yes, I immediately replaced them but I just assumed I didn't like them more b/c they were new not b/c of the color. I always keep any old stock white ones I have and replace new ones with them. In saying that stock and new clear blue were about as good as the white.

All new bushings are problematic. A good bushing will never feel right straight away and will feel very different once you've got it broken in.

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Ha yeah - brand new bushings = find somewhere to just do laps or roll around and wear them in before even thinking of skating as usual, otherwise they often blow out or they just feel like they don't work well.

Had a few people set up new Thunder trucks recently, one didn't break them in as he should have - destroyed the bushings.  Another guy with the same trucks went really easy, as I had said to do - loves his new trucks now and the bushings feel perfect for him, as well as when we skated his board.

Sometimes I feel like I could have a market for very lightly used (and nicely broken in bushings) to supply to people who are too keen to wait and want to skate right now.  I usually have quite a few sets that I have just right, which I have taken out and are ready for whatever is needed in that regard, which have definitely helped some people, but it is a weird thing, like second hand shoes - sometimes you just need to get them and have them from new and do the hard work yourself.

I had two sessions on them and the only way to get them anywhere near where I like to have them would have had none of the nylock in the threads. I threw them in boiling water and they are better now.

[biaherl]

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As I get older knee issues worry me more. I have jumpers knee which is generally fine as long as I do yoga, foam roll and cycle.

I was considering getting some of those Old Bones knee sleeves. Maybe a silly question but are they good to wear on every sesh or will it be an issue where my knees will be weaker from the extra support?

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Get X99

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I appreciate that but I tried the x99 and I personally like my 99a f4s more. I just wanna know if wearing a compression sleeve on the knees consistently will be worse in the long run

As someone who is almost 50 years old and had my first knee surgery at 14, I can say that the old bones sleeves do nothing but maybe keep your knees warmer. Honestly the best knee support I've had is from 7mm+ knee wraps that power lifters use. They can hinder your skateboarding depending on what tricks you are trying. If you're cruising, slashing and riding transition then they are perfect. They won't make you weaker if that's what you've heard

The best thing that has worked for me, someone who has had multiple surgeries on his left knee but my right knee is my worst, is regressing to progress

work easy then press on

Drink the cool aid




30 years of knee pain gone in one year of body weight exercises

[moonordie]

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What's the difference between blazers mid abd blazers mid iso?

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I don't deal in Nike shoes at all, but I was curious, so checked and this is what came up.  Maybe they are the same exact shoes in a physical sense, maybe not, but it might just be a name, in the same way that at some point all the Nike shoes we had in a large store I worked in had SB after them, even though they were not at all the Skateboarding editions of the shoes.


What does Nike ISO stand for?

In-Store Only

An acronym for In-Store Only, the Nike Dunk ISO is exactly what it says in the tin. Pairs like the recent Nike SB Dunk High ISO ”Midnight Navy” were released exclusively in specific skate shops worldwide, making them a lot rarer than the usual pair.

You da MVP man.

[Bold]

Sometimes I feel like I could have a market for very lightly used (and nicely broken in bushings) to supply to people who are too keen to wait and want to skate right now.  I usually have quite a few sets that I have just right, which I have taken out and are ready for whatever is needed in that regard, which have definitely helped some people, but it is a weird thing, like second hand shoes - sometimes you just need to get them and have them from new and do the hard work yourself.

The last time I got new trucks I remembered "Aw man, I gotta break these in." And I wished I had a machine to to it for me.

I still can't think of anything cheap or easier than just cruising though.

[Mbrimson88]

I had two sessions on them and the only way to get them anywhere near where I like to have them would have had none of the nylock in the threads. I threw them in boiling water and they are better now.

Some people even skate them without the bottom washer for a bit first, just to try to wear them in.

I don't know how good that would be - changing the feel of the truck geometry and possibly blowing out the bottom bushing, but I guess for those people, they say it is just right until they compress or soften up and then they put the bottom washer back in and are good for the life of the truck.

Guessing they don't do a whole lot of heavy / side to side landings on those in that time, but I can see that as an alternative to cutting the bushings or swapping them out.

Some others might put a thin flat washer on top at first too, like the Bones washers.  That really makes they feel a whole lot more loose and turny, with no resistance, but it was a bit too much when I tried it, just to see how it was.

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Sometimes I feel like I could have a market for very lightly used (and nicely broken in bushings) to supply to people who are too keen to wait and want to skate right now.  I usually have quite a few sets that I have just right, which I have taken out and are ready for whatever is needed in that regard, which have definitely helped some people, but it is a weird thing, like second hand shoes - sometimes you just need to get them and have them from new and do the hard work yourself.

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The last time I got new trucks I remembered "Aw man, I gotta break these in." And I wished I had a machine to to it for me.

I still can't think of anything cheap or easier than just cruising though.

For sure - just put in the time at the start and they work really well, for the most part.

[Banned from the room]

Why can't I get to where my board is landing?

[LeDave]

I just bought a new set of Thunder Sonora 147's. The graphics are a bit different, one truck has a lightning but the other says Team. I didn't realize this until I got home from the shop. Is it normal or should I trade back for both being either lightnings or both being Teams? Thanks

[VCR]

Normal

[LeDave]

Normal

Thank you! I will keep both as is then.

[Xen]

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As I get older knee issues worry me more. I have jumpers knee which is generally fine as long as I do yoga, foam roll and cycle.

I was considering getting some of those Old Bones knee sleeves. Maybe a silly question but are they good to wear on every sesh or will it be an issue where my knees will be weaker from the extra support?

[close]

Get X99

[close]

I appreciate that but I tried the x99 and I personally like my 99a f4s more. I just wanna know if wearing a compression sleeve on the knees consistently will be worse in the long run

[close]

As someone who is almost 50 years old and had my first knee surgery at 14, I can say that the old bones sleeves do nothing but maybe keep your knees warmer. Honestly the best knee support I've had is from 7mm+ knee wraps that power lifters use. They can hinder your skateboarding depending on what tricks you are trying. If you're cruising, slashing and riding transition then they are perfect. They won't make you weaker if that's what you've heard

The best thing that has worked for me, someone who has had multiple surgeries on his left knee but my right knee is my worst, is regressing to progress

work easy then press on

Drink the cool aid




30 years of knee pain gone in one year of body weight exercises

Gua Sha muscle scraper/tool can also help - lots of knee issue come from surrounding muscles being over or under worked/utilized.

Walking backwards on the treadmill (without it moving on it's own) or sled pulls will help strengthen your knees.

I've got knee pain, nothing torn but over use: Old knees (launch ramps, drops, stairs/40+ yrs skating) + lift heavy, bike, hike...knee compression sleeves never helped, you can get some flossing bands, but they suck to skate in and didn't really help either.

Foam rolling the teardrop of your quad helps a ton (for me anyway). But the real magic? These fucking things:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RWMPF1Z/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

I've used similar on my elbows (inner elbow tendonitis/lifting injuries) and they didn't work/help at all so I was reluctant to try them for knees....

But those knee braces, it's voodoo, I swear but I can squat, skate, hike, etc., without pain and/or feeling like my knee was going to give out. When it first became a real issue, even getting out of bed some days it was impossible to put weight on them until I thera gun'd/scraped the tear drop -  but if I strap these on first thing, boom right as rain. The best thing is it's getting better and I'm able to use them less.

[Idk]

I just bought a new set of Thunder Sonora 147's. The graphics are a bit different, one truck has a lightning but the other says Team. I didn't realize this until I got home from the shop. Is it normal or should I trade back for both being either lightnings or both being Teams? Thanks

this is normal.

[LeDave]

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I just bought a new set of Thunder Sonora 147's. The graphics are a bit different, one truck has a lightning but the other says Team. I didn't realize this until I got home from the shop. Is it normal or should I trade back for both being either lightnings or both being Teams? Thanks

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this is normal.

Thanks, will keep both.

[Painted Baby]

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I just bought a new set of Thunder Sonora 147's. The graphics are a bit different, one truck has a lightning but the other says Team. I didn't realize this until I got home from the shop. Is it normal or should I trade back for both being either lightnings or both being Teams? Thanks

[close]

this is normal.

[close]

Thanks, will keep both.

Just a bit of trivia, the stampings on Thunder baseplates have always been kinda random going back to Stage Is in the 80s where you would get some combo of salamander, scimitar and skull

[Painted Baby]

Any body got any recommendations on an air compressor with a motor on it to blow out dusty machinery? I used to use when I was a machine operator and I want one for my home but it looks like there's a lot of bootleg compressors on Amazon. Or maybe they're all fine and I can just get whatever?

[Frank and Fred]

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I just bought a new set of Thunder Sonora 147's. The graphics are a bit different, one truck has a lightning but the other says Team. I didn't realize this until I got home from the shop. Is it normal or should I trade back for both being either lightnings or both being Teams? Thanks

[close]

this is normal.

[close]

Thanks, will keep both.

[close]

Just a bit of trivia, the stampings on Thunder baseplates have always been kinda random going back to Stage Is in the 80s where you would get some combo of salamander, scimitar and skull

Depending what earrings Terry Nails was wearing when they poured the baseplates that day at Ermico.

[Banned from the room]

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I just bought a new set of Thunder Sonora 147's. The graphics are a bit different, one truck has a lightning but the other says Team. I didn't realize this until I got home from the shop. Is it normal or should I trade back for both being either lightnings or both being Teams? Thanks

[close]

this is normal.

[close]

Thanks, will keep both.

[close]

Just a bit of trivia, the stampings on Thunder baseplates have always been kinda random going back to Stage Is in the 80s where you would get some combo of salamander, scimitar and skull

I miss these. I miss tfours

[WashingtonNECKTIE]

Who the fuck designed the baseplates on Fury trucks? I was pulling the hardware off an old Hardy board to hang and it had some rusty Furys on it... Those nut holes/(counter sinks?) were the worst idea I've seen in hot minute

[j....soy.....]

I had the first incarnations of furys and the pivot was almost like a ball and socket….designed by Shrewgy I think… not sure about the rest of the truck….

[lulz]

Any body got any recommendations on an air compressor with a motor on it to blow out dusty machinery? I used to use when I was a machine operator and I want one for my home but it looks like there's a lot of bootleg compressors on Amazon. Or maybe they're all fine and I can just get whatever?

The oil lubed ones from harbor freight have always worked the best for me.

[Idk]

My primitive order still hasn’t shipped. Ordered it March 22. Gonna try to get it canceled but hopefully their customer service actually responds to me this time.

[moonordie]

Still nursing a sprained ankle and I wonder if skating high tops would help with recovery (once ankle is feeling good enough to pop tricks ofc)

[Painted Baby]

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Any body got any recommendations on an air compressor with a motor on it to blow out dusty machinery? I used to use when I was a machine operator and I want one for my home but it looks like there's a lot of bootleg compressors on Amazon. Or maybe they're all fine and I can just get whatever?

[close]

The oil lubed ones from harbor freight have always worked the best for me.

Thanks for the rec! Didn't even know there's a Harbor Freight in my area

[Pastasash]

Still nursing a sprained ankle and I wonder if skating high tops would help with recovery (once ankle is feeling good enough to pop tricks ofc)

Sorta, it's more of a placebo effect more than anything. When I was coming back from my last ankle injury I was skating dunk highs and it definitely gave me more confidence and my ankle felt more secure and supported, but it didn't stop me from getting a hot pocket after nursing my ankle for a month and a half.

Strength training is the only thing that really is going to help with recovery, load the ankle with some weights not just body weight and bands. You'll be feeling much better for return to skate even if its in low or high tops

[rawbertson.]

Who the fuck designed the baseplates on Fury trucks? I was pulling the hardware off an old Hardy board to hang and it had some rusty Furys on it... Those nut holes/(counter sinks?) were the worst idea I've seen in hot minute

I actually liked that because I only had to carry around this tiny phillips screwdriver to tighten the nuts lol... I feel like that made them come loose a lot or maybe it was just cause I was skating so mucch? I think it added a lot of un-necessary weight to the truck though and thats why they removed it on the EVOs or whatever. by that point i had moved on to Indy. I only rode fury's from probably 2002-2005~ they were my favorite truck at the time. The turning was a lot better than all the other trucks that were out by a long shot (besides indy). and they had good pros. seemed like one of the better offerings at the time to me.

[LeDave]

What do you guys use to clean your bearings with? I use 100% acetone nail polish remover from the Dollar Tree and then a drop of Speed Cream for lubing each bearing. I clean not just the bearings but the shields, spacers and washers as well.

Also do any of you guys use Bronson G3 bearings? I am using Bones Red for my main board but want to try something different for my other board.

Thanks!

[lulz]

What do you guys use to clean your bearings with? I use 100% acetone nail polish remover from the Dollar Tree and then a drop of Speed Cream for lubing each bearing. I clean not just the bearings but the shields, spacers and washers as well.

Also do any of you guys use Bronson G3 bearings? I am using Bones Red for my main board but want to try something different for my other board.

Thanks!

Yes to acetone and speed cream. Well, not the shields, just soapy water on those. Don’t want the acetone to break down the rubber seals.

Can’t speak to Bronsons. Avoided them due to bad reviews on here.

If you want better than reds, go with Bones Swiss super six.
If you need cheaper than reds, I like spitfire bearings, lol.)

[DERBY]

What do you guys use to clean your bearings with? I use 100% acetone nail polish remover from the Dollar Tree and then a drop of Speed Cream for lubing each bearing. I clean not just the bearings but the shields, spacers and washers as well.

Also do any of you guys use Bronson G3 bearings? I am using Bones Red for my main board but want to try something different for my other board.

Thanks!

what youre doing is good. probably best to make sure everything is dried entirely. the person above said to avoid the shields. theyre right but tbh i personally do it.

based on experience g3s are worse then the g2s and standard reds. bones is your safest bet and most of their bearings are quality. only set from bones that werent good are the big balls. theyre fast and the shields look nice but cracked the crowns on every set